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Rock on, Rockall! (it's back)

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    #302
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,356 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Tuskar crash in '68.
    Fouga Magister in service from '75 to '99.


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    #303
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    _blaaz wrote: »


    Should seen her meltdown over mcclean singing a love poem


    Ah, now she's fiesty and want to make friends.


    Anyway, when does the invasion start? As long as we're back for next week's episode of Killing Eve I'm golden.


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    #304
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Tuskar crash in '68.
    Fouga Magister in service from '75 to '99.

    It is well known there was one on test in 1968. Can you explain why a Fouga Magister was listed as one of the Air Corps aircraft in service in 1968, as stated in appendix 5.2.g of the 2002 report?? the two pilots in the trainer survived by ejecting and parachuting to safety, an instructor claimed. Both the French and Irish authorities colluded in a subsequent cover-up, a flight instructor claimed, and the Fouga Magister wreckage may still be on the seabed off Co Wexford. Why was no proper search for the wreckage done, and the bit that were found disposed of before interested parties could examine them?
    _blaaz wrote: »
    Should seen her meltdown over mcclean singing a love poem

    Never heard mcclean singing a love poem, I never had a meltdown, dunno what you are on about.


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    #305
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Wtf has a plane crash from 1968 got to do with the topic of the thread?


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    #306
    [Deleted User]
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    bear1 wrote: »
    Wtf has a plane crash from 1968 got to do with the topic of the thread?


    Alright, Jeremy Paxman. As long as it's interesting...



    Anything to add re Rockhall yourself?


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    #307
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Alright, Jeremy Paxman. As long as it's interesting...



    Anything to add re Rockhall yourself?

    I did..


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    #308
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,372 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    So is this a gig or music festival.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #309
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    wonder will the scottish administration apply to the London lord mayor to "borrow" hms Belfast from its birth on the thames, so that it can take part in some target practice in the north sea ;)

    HMS belfast has big guns.
    Can hit the Watford service station on the M1 motorway from where its parked ( what do call a parking a ship again )on the Thames .

    Always wondered why Watford was so well behaved .


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    #310
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    In the Good Old Days , Someone would have suggested a Drinking Contest.....

    so....I suggest a Drinking Competition .

    Watch out for the Clan McDonalds . I think they did something really bad after having some aqaintances over for a feast and drink in Scottish History .

    If its McDonalds , pretend to be drunk but don’t fall asleep ........


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    #311
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    So I gather we don't recognise the fact that Rockwall is a UK rock, and that the territorial waters surrounding Rockwall are UK waters, yet we don't lay claim to the rock or the waters :cool:


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    #312
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    So I gather we don't recognise the fact that Rockwall is a UK rock, and that the territorial waters surrounding Rockwall are UK waters, yet we don't lay claim to the rock or the waters :cool:
    Kinda like saying its not your rock but it is really .


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    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    So I gather we don't recognise the fact that Rockwall is a UK rock, and that the territorial waters surrounding Rockwall are UK waters, yet we don't lay claim to the rock or the waters :cool:

    Yup, we only lay claim to it after a few pints. Maybe we could get a few lads off a training programme, give them some scaffolding and get them to paint "Brits Out" in large letters in white paint on it? Some great offers on buckets of white paint now, may be as good a use for it as any.


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    #314
    gozunda
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Glen Goyne, Jura, Talisker, Macallan, Bowmore, Highland Park, Laphroaig, Springbank, Speyburn... impressive first 11 for the Scotch there.

    Like most of their whiskies - most of the land in Scotland is owned by foreign investors. The land clearances by the Lairds were of their own people - many of which were forcibly evicted to N. Ireland. And unlike Ireland there were no Land Acts which restored escheated lands to the remaining people who live there ...

    And now Scotland is trying to get territorial with Ireland ...


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    lawred2
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    So I gather we don't recognise the fact that Rockwall is a UK rock, and that the territorial waters surrounding Rockwall are UK waters, yet we don't lay claim to the rock or the waters :cool:

    We contest that it's international waters because Rockall is uninhabitable and not capable of supporting life.

    The UN agrees.

    I bet the EU will agree soon enough too.


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    gctest50
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    lawred2 wrote: »

    ........because Rockall is uninhabitable ........

    The Scots should just build a lighthouse-type structure on it - be grand


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    #317
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    lawred2 wrote: »
    We contest that it's international waters because Rockall is uninhabitable and not capable of supporting life.

    The UN agrees.

    I bet the EU will agree soon enough too.
    War it is so ! 3rd world war over Fockall !


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    #318
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    gctest50 wrote: »
    The Scots should just build a lighthouse-type structure on it - be grand
    First to throw a Kaber / Caber (? ) can have it .


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    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,849 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    lawred2 wrote: »
    We contest that it's international waters because Rockall is uninhabitable and not capable of supporting life.

    The UN agrees.

    I bet the EU will agree soon enough too.

    The British ignoring the UN when it suits them? Never! :)


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    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    lawred2 wrote: »
    We contest that it's international waters because Rockall is uninhabitable and not capable of supporting life. .

    It supported people for months. It supports wildlife. What more do you want it to support?

    The first people on it, and afaik, the only people on it, were all British.
    It's closer to Scotland than any other country. So I would guess the British will argue it is not in international waters, it is in British waters.


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    BarryD2
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    Not convinced this is very wise by the Scots - they stand to lose a fair amount of goodwill from this side of the water. I'd be thinking the view of your average Irish citizen is to tell the Scots to p*** off with themselves.


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    FrancieBrady
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Not convinced this is very wise by the Scots - they stand to lose a fair amount of goodwill from this side of the water. I'd be thinking the view of your average Irish citizen is to tell the Scots to p*** off with themselves.

    One wonders is the British state going rogue. First they ignore the UN on the Chagos Islands (on behalf of America, of course) and now they ignore them on Rockall.

    https://news.sky.com/story/un-tells-britain-to-end-colonial-administration-of-chagos-islands-11726990


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    #323
    Hamsterchops
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    One wonders is the British state going rogue. First they ignore the UN on the Chagos Islands (on behalf of America, of course) and now they ignore them on Rockall.

    It's the SNP Scottish administration in this instance.


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    lawred2
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    It supported people for months. It supports wildlife. What more do you want it to support?

    The first people on it, and afaik, the only people on it, were all British.
    It's closer to Scotland than any other country. So I would guess the British will argue it is not in international waters, it is in British waters.

    Well you certainly will anyway.


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    #325
    FrancieBrady
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It's the SNP Scottish administration in this instance.

    Are they not British?


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    RobMc59
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It's the SNP Scottish administration in this instance.

    The Scots will stick up for themselves-this could potentially get nasty.


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    #327
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Maybe give the Spanish and Argies an aul phone call, they're always dealing with island disputes and might have a few recomendations.

    The quickest way of course to put off any settlers and reduce property prices would be to air drop in a couple of caravans and upside down wheely bin or five.
    Meanwhile the lads that might be best qualified to climb n' flag the aul rock are heading off to Mali or somewhere random.


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    #328
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Are they not British?

    Yes of course, but not be confused the main overarching UK/British administration (the British state) in London. we'll have to wait and see what they say....


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    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Might be an opportunity to turn the Rockall plateau disputed by four countries into a much needed marine reserve and thus benefit all.

    http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/fact-sheets/2018/10/the-push-to-safeguard-30-percent-of-the-ocean


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    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,272 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Will be interesting to see how Coveney handles things if the Scots up the ante and intercept a fishing vessel.


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    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how Coveney handles things if the Scots up the ante and intercept a fishing vessel.

    We intercepted 2 of their Northern Irish fishing boats in Februry off the Louth coast and brought them in to an Irish port. How did thay finish up, were the owners of the boats fined or let off or what?


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