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Dublin Bus - Flagging down

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why would it not be serious? As has been noted, in many other countries the bus stops at every stop on the route.

    I know it may seem to make less sense to those used to the system, but if you're not local you wouldn't know and could be left stranded as there are no signs telling you to flag down a bus, and for people in other countries they would be as incredulous to hear that this is necessary as you are to hear that people don't know this is necessary. To someone not Irish flagging down is done for taxis, not for any type of public transport. It would seem almost as ridiculous as having to flag down a train.And buseireann buses usually stop at every stop even if they are used by different routes.

    In this country we are so used to being treated like crap for any service we pay for. The onus shouldnt be on a passenger to get a bus to stop, the driver should have a duty to stop and make sure that anyone waiting at the stop gets a chance to board if necessary. Or at least put up signs saying that you need to get up and do a dance to get the bus to stop.

    its been explained multiple times why the only sensible system is the one in place

    and that its in place in loads of other places.

    services in ireland, as a rule, are no better or worse than in most other modern countries and to insist otherwise is a bit......irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I know it may seem to make less sense to those used to the system, but if you're not local you wouldn't know and could be left stranded as there are no signs telling you to flag down a bus, and for people in other countries they would be as incredulous to hear that this is necessary as you are to hear that people don't know this is necessary

    At worst, if you really are from some magical land where bus drivers are psychic, you'll miss two buses, assuming you're a normally intelligent person:

    The first one will sail past you while you stand there with your hands in your pockets. You left there, amazed that just by silently thinking "I'd like to get on this oncoming bus", you didn't manage to stop 10 tonnes of metal, glass and uncomfortable seats traveling at 50 km/h.

    So the second one comes along. This time, still with your hands in your pockets, you decide to think a little harder about your desire to be inside the bus. Again, though, for some mysterious reason, the bus does not bend to your will. You are sad, confused and alone.

    Third bus comes over the horizon. You're anxious this time, with your two previous bitter experiences fresh in your mind. As the bus approaches, you find yourself involuntarily doing something primal. Some kind of ancient wisdom kicks in, like the voice of your ancestors whispering in your ear. You find your hand leaving your pocket - floating as if guided by the wind. Your fingers uncurl. The palm of your hand turns slowly, shaping itself like a paddle-shaped beacon. Your arm outstretches. You're willing the bus to stop, just like before, but this time, you're focusing this will though your limb. Metaphorically, your hand is placing itself in front of the bus - as if to physically impede its progress. Like an out of body experience, you can see yourself from a birds's eye view. You're not in control. Why is my hand moving? What's going to happen? Your focus switches to the bus. it's slowing. It's slowing more. Is this really happening? Yes! It's stopping! The damn thing is stopping! The doors open, like a portal. You retract your hand, looking in amazement at your palm and fingers. They seem to glow with energy. Suddenly you're back in your body. You embark upon the bus. You've never felt so sure in your life. No only is it going to take you to your destination, but it's already taken you on a journey you never expected. From now on, you'll be able to stop any bus. Or taxi. Should one person be allowed to have this much power? Who knows. Who cares. You have it, and you're never going to lose it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    phutyle wrote: »
    At worst, if you really are from some magical land where bus drivers are psychic, you'll miss two buses, assuming you're a normally intelligent person:

    The first one will sail past you while you stand there with your hands in your pockets. You left there, amazed that just by silently thinking "I'd like to get on this oncoming bus", you didn't manage to stop 10 tonnes of metal, glass and uncomfortable seats traveling at 50 km/h.

    So the second one comes along. This time, still with your hands in your pockets, you decide to think a little harder about your desire to be inside the bus. Again, though, for some mysterious reason, the bus does not bend to your will. You are sad, confused and alone.

    Third bus comes over the horizon. You're anxious this time, with your two previous bitter experiences fresh in your mind. As the bus approaches, you find yourself involuntarily doing something primal. Some kind of ancient wisdom kicks in, like the voice of your ancestors whispering in your ear. You find your hand leaving your pocket - floating as if guided by the wind. Your fingers uncurl. The palm of your hand turns slowly, shaping itself like a paddle-shaped beacon. Your arm outstretches. You're willing the bus to stop, just like before, but this time, you're focusing this will though your limb. Metaphorically, your hand is placing itself in front of the bus - as if to physically impede its progress. Like an out of body experience, you can see yourself from a birds's eye view. You're not in control. Why is my hand moving? What's going to happen? Your focus switches to the bus. it's slowing. It's slowing more. Is this really happening? Yes! It's stopping! The damn thing is stopping! The doors open, like a portal. You retract your hand, looking in amazement at your palm and fingers. They seem to glow with energy. Suddenly you're back in your body. You embark upon the bus. You've never felt so sure in your life. No only is it going to take you to your destination, but it's already taken you on a journey you never expected. From now on, you'll be able to stop any bus. Or taxi. Should one person be allowed to have this much power? Who knows. Who cares. You have it, and you're never going to lose it.

    Thank you driver..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Osborne wrote: »
    Thank you driver..

    Oh don't thank me. Thank the collective wisdom of the universe. Like a new-born calf knows how to suckle upon its mother, or an eel knows how to get back to its native river from the Sargasso sea, so too do we know how to stop a bus. If only we listen... really listen...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    GBX wrote: »
    Drivers hate people.

    Everyone thats had to work with the public hates people (retail etc) . People are ****ing idiots/ignorant/entitled ***** (add more where applicable)


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    How do you know they seen them as many aren't at the stop expect the bus to wait....

    The bus runs for those who wait not those that run.....
    Victor wrote: »
    Will it only be 10 seconds? Multiply that 10 seconds by everyone else on the bus.

    Is that person running on the road, causing a safety issue?


    I'm talking about old people trying to catch a bus, dozens of times I've seen drivers drive off on all kinds of people who were running to catch them, it's basic consideration for other people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    El_Bee wrote: »
    I'm talking about old people trying to catch a bus, dozens of times I've seen drivers drive off on all kinds of people who were running to catch them, it's basic consideration for other people.

    Maybe it's a frequent route and will only be a short wait until the next bus, maybe the driver didn't see them or maybe it would be dangerous to stop for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭bingbong500


    Is there any reason the driver wouldn't stop if he had been flagged down? I was in Dublin two weeks ago, going to a gig so beforehand, I was sauntering down Thomas Street towards the venue when I noticed a male and a female at the bus-stop I was approaching (they were not together). Then I saw both of them step forward, flag a bus that was approaching behind me, and the bus just hurtles on by.

    They looked at each other, confused. It was a lovely sunny evening, traffic was light, they were the only people at the stop, the buss wasn't full, and they seemed to have given the driver enough time. The lad had even stepped out onto the road.

    Maybe the driver couldn't keep his eyes off his phone... ;)

    It's entirely possible that they were trying to flag down a bus that doesn't stop at the bus stop they were standing at. People do it all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Oh my god it's PC society's fault.

    K bye.

    I may be a prick and a bollox and that's fine I accept that I am, but I'm a prick and bollox that's only doing the job as described.

    It's in the rules since before even I was bore

    Put hand out - bus will stop
    Press stop button or inform driver you want off - bus will stop

    If there are multiple routes serving the one stop you must do as instructed as there is no way of us knowing , not mind readers - bus drivers only !

    However I am reasonable. If the bus stop only has one route serving it and I'm driving that one and only route , I will stop if someone is standing there, it's common sense to.

    If you were on the receiving end of the abuse we get over this type of crap your attitude would be different also.

    I've often and other drivers have often being called while on route for not stopping at a stop where there was nobody at and when we asked where we're they we get told "they were sitting in the car across the road waiting" , so again , bullcrap we get from this type of carry on

    Also at the airport some months a person was talking to me asking directions to city because they had missed their flight.
    They were sitting at the departure gate or near enough to it and were bet into s video on the iPad with earphones and missed the announcements etc. But that's probably the pilots fault.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    El_Bee wrote: »
    I'm talking about old people trying to catch a bus, dozens of times I've seen drivers drive off on all kinds of people who were running to catch them, it's basic consideration for other people.

    The driver has a timetable to keep. Be at the stop in time or wait for the next one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Bus Éireann drivers are 10 times worse in my experience. Most of them are ignorant pigs.

    Spitting on them as you disembark is an effective way of expressing customer satisfaction, but should never be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,164 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Edgware wrote: »
    The driver has a timetable to keep. Be at the stop in time or wait for the next one

    The driver's not going to have a job if the bus has no passengers though.

    Even worse is when the driver makes it difficult for a person with reduced mobility to get off the bus.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I always waved down the bus I wanted just seemed the obvious thing to do but is there any notices etc on DB website or at the stops informing passengers that they must wave down the bus they want ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The driver's not going to have a job if the bus has no passengers though.

    Not true plenty of routes are not viable as they have poor passenger numbers but still run as theyre subsidised by the state as they are considered socially nessecary for elderly people and the likes
    Even worse is when the driver makes it difficult for a person with reduced mobility to get off the bus.

    This is mostly because of inconsiderate parking as a lot of the time people park blocking bus stops etc I haven't seen it done on purpose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    yabadabado wrote: »
    is there any notices etc on DB website or at the stops informing passengers that they must wave down the bus they want ?

    No, and why would there be? Are there notices on shoes saying you have to tie the laces before you walk? On bananas saying you have to peel it before eating? On the ocean to say you have to hold your breath before dunking your head in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    phutyle wrote: »
    No, and why would there be? Are there notices on shoes saying you have to tie the laces before you walk? On bananas saying you have to peel it before eating? On the ocean to say you have to hold your breath before dunking your head in?

    Maybe because its company policy ,that was my question.

    You dont have to do any of the things you mentioned but do you need to wave down a bus for it to stop?
    Banana peel is perfectly edible for example or you can still walk in a pair of shoes with open laces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Bus Éireann drivers are 10 times worse in my experience. Most of them are ignorant pigs.

    Dublin Bus is fine.

    It's the passengers that are the c*nts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Maybe because its company policy ,that was my question.

    You dont have to do any of the things you mentioned but do you need to wave down a bus for it to stop?
    Banana peel is perfectly edible for example or you can still walk in a pair of shoes with open laces.

    Being less facetious then: Should lifts have a notice on them that you have to press the button to make it come to your floor?

    People here are trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. There aren’t scores of people stranded at bus stops across the land because they don’t know they’re supposed to signal the driver to stop. Even the OPs wife actually did it, just a little late. We’re actually a fairly intelligent species, all things considered. We can work stuff out ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    It's actually a very good way as it gives the driver time to read the road, time to look out for cyclists etc.

    VG31 wrote:
    Although there may be good reasons for this practice, they seem to manage just fine without it in other much bigger cities than Dublin. In Moscow they don't even have stop buttons on the buses, the buses just stop automatically at every stop.


    Why do they stop at every stop? Supposing nobody is exiting or boarding? What's the point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    VG31 wrote: »
    In Moscow they don't even have stop buttons on the buses, the buses just stop automatically at every stop.

    In Communist Russia, buses stop you!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Why do they stop at every stop? Supposing nobody is exiting or boarding? What's the point?

    Maybe because they don't have buttons.

    ...I presume the putting the hand out is an unwritten rule. Plenty of drivers take the piss on this. Slow down at the bus stop, make eye contact with a someone standing at the stop and then continue on without stopping because the bus wasn't flagged by said punter, an obvious tourist with suitcase in hand, waiting at a one option bus route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Why do they stop at every stop? Supposing nobody is exiting or boarding? What's the point?

    What you on about I said the system of putting hand out.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    What you on about I said the system of putting hand out.....

    I think the OP was referring to Moscow not Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    They always stop for the ladies though which shows fierce sexism......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    They always stop for the ladies though which shows fierce sexism......

    I don't....

    98% of the time runners are an absolute scourge....
    No ticket, no money, wrong bus, only stopped to ask directions, no ticket or pass or whatever.... Pain in the hoop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,501 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Whatever about the abuse..I am glad buses don't needlessly stop at every stop and waste everyone's time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Is there any reason the driver wouldn't stop if he had been flagged down? I was in Dublin two weeks ago, going to a gig so beforehand, I was sauntering down Thomas Street towards the venue when I noticed a male and a female at the bus-stop I was approaching (they were not together). Then I saw both of them step forward, flag a bus that was approaching behind me, and the bus just hurtles on by.

    They looked at each other, confused. It was a lovely sunny evening, traffic was light, they were the only people at the stop, the buss wasn't full, and they seemed to have given the driver enough time. The lad had even stepped out onto the road.

    Maybe the driver couldn't keep his eyes off his phone... ;)

    Maybe the bus didn't stop at that stop?

    Where I get the bus from in town, there's 66/67/25 but the 66/67/25X also goes by but doesn't stop there and there's always some chancer trying to flag the Xs down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    So it's my fault people at the bus stop are too busy staring into their phones to put the hand out ?

    I love this, it's never the person's fault and the bus driver is always a prick

    The rule is put your hand out or press Bell for bus to stop. It's being like that since the dawn of time. Yet people are the victims and it's never their fault

    I think it's great when it happens because j think people are idiots in general and I'm fed up with this PC culture we have going on. I would be happy to move planet if I could

    Let me guess, you wouldn’t stop for someone running for a bus if they weren’t at the bus stop in time?? Even though buses seem to run at their own convenience, with no set timetable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,501 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Let me guess, you wouldn’t stop for someone running for a bus if they weren’t at the bus stop in time?? Even though buses seem to run at their own convenience, with no set timetable.

    That's bull tbh.

    There will be somebody running for a bus at almost every stop at rush hour.

    The driver can't endlessly inconvenience his passengers to cater for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭4Ad


    BobMc wrote: »
    Whats the story with busses stopping at bus stops. Why do you need to flag them down ??

    Because to Dublin Bus drivers, passengers are a huge inconvenience.

    They must be amongst the worst, people ask bus drivers questions as people are unsure of the route, cost etc. especially if you are a tourist or cuchie(me).
    If people knew the answers they wouldn't ask...they aren't taking the piss..
    I used a public bus yesterday in Slovenia yesterday, nearly every tourist asked a question, myself included, both times he couldn't of being more polite..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Dont they have signs on some of the stops indicating to flag the bus down? Im sure Ive seen them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,916 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    4Ad wrote:
    I used a public bus yesterday in Slovenia yesterday, nearly every tourist asked a question, myself included, both times he couldn't of being more polite..

    So two tourists then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Bit confused by people saying the bus driver shouldnt have to stop as he has a timetable to keep, or that stopping at each stop would make him late.

    Surely the timetable was not configured on the basis of the bus whizzing by each stop without stopping? Or perhaps it was, which is why they are never on time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Bit confused by people saying the bus driver shouldnt have to stop as he has a timetable to keep, or that stopping at each stop would make him late.

    Surely the timetable was not configured on the basis of the bus whizzing by each stop without stopping? Or perhaps it was, which is why they are never on time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Last year a group of 5 of us left from my house to go to a match in town on a Saturday, timed it to reach the bus stop a few minutes before the next one was due in order to be sure to catch this twice hourly weekend service.

    We live about 5 stops from the terminus, so the timing is always pretty reliable, but as we rounded the corner onto the main road and the bus stop came into sight maybe 100m away, what do I see only the bus approaching to fly past the empty stop about 2 mins before it was even due to depart the terminus.

    As it had to pass us, I stepped to the edge of the kerb and pointed at my wristwatch shouting my displeasure, whereupon the brake lights came on the bus and it juddered to a halt just beyond us.

    The front doors opened and we bailed on as Dessie Driver says to me 'hang on there, what do you mean by that gesture, who do you think you're being ignorant to?'

    Says I, 'if you hadn't left 6 or 7 minutes early at top speed so you could finish to catch the (insert club) game and hope no one would notice, I wouldn't have to be gesturing to anyone, am I right? So lets leave the phonecall to the garage to one side and get on with it shall we? '

    Mr Red Handed proceeded without another word.

    So, my takeaway is this, for many bus drivers, customer service is an irrelevance and they hate the job. This kills the goodwill for their whole profession and so my expectation is that the bare minimum is about right and so i dont engage with them any more than i would with the postman or binman who come while im at work or the invisible person posting my bills or tallying my toll bridge journeys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Last year a group of 5 of us left from my house to go to a match in town on a Saturday, timed it to reach the bus stop a few minutes before the next one was due in order to be sure to catch this twice hourly weekend service.

    We live about 5 stops from the terminus, so the timing is always pretty reliable, but as we rounded the corner onto the main road and the bus stop came into sight maybe 100m away, what do I see only the bus approaching to fly past the empty stop about 2 mins before it was even due to depart the terminus.

    As it had to pass us, I stepped to the edge of the kerb and pointed at my wristwatch shouting my displeasure, whereupon the brake lights came on the bus and it juddered to a halt just beyond us.

    The front doors opened and we bailed on as Dessie Driver says to me 'hang on there, what do you mean by that gesture, who do you think you're being ignorant to?'

    Says I, 'if you hadn't left 6 or 7 minutes early at top speed so you could finish to catch the (insert club) game and hope no one would notice, I wouldn't have to be gesturing to anyone, am I right? So lets leave the phonecall to the garage to one side and get on with it shall we? '

    Mr Red Handed proceeded without another word.

    So, my takeaway is this, for many bus drivers, customer service is an irrelevance and they hate the job. This kills the goodwill for their whole profession and so my expectation is that the bare minimum is about right and so i dont engage with them any more than i would with the postman or binman who come while im at work or the invisible person posting my bills or tallying my toll bridge journeys.

    Be at the stop in time or get the Harvey Smith sign


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭bingbong500


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Last year a group of 5 of us left from my house to go to a match in town on a Saturday, timed it to reach the bus stop a few minutes before the next one was due in order to be sure to catch this twice hourly weekend service.

    We live about 5 stops from the terminus, so the timing is always pretty reliable, but as we rounded the corner onto the main road and the bus stop came into sight maybe 100m away, what do I see only the bus approaching to fly past the empty stop about 2 mins before it was even due to depart the terminus.

    As it had to pass us, I stepped to the edge of the kerb and pointed at my wristwatch shouting my displeasure, whereupon the brake lights came on the bus and it juddered to a halt just beyond us.

    The front doors opened and we bailed on as Dessie Driver says to me 'hang on there, what do you mean by that gesture, who do you think you're being ignorant to?'

    Says I, 'if you hadn't left 6 or 7 minutes early at top speed so you could finish to catch the (insert club) game and hope no one would notice, I wouldn't have to be gesturing to anyone, am I right? So lets leave the phonecall to the garage to one side and get on with it shall we? '

    Mr Red Handed proceeded without another word.

    So, my takeaway is this, for many bus drivers, customer service is an irrelevance and they hate the job. This kills the goodwill for their whole profession and so my expectation is that the bare minimum is about right and so i dont engage with them any more than i would with the postman or binman who come while im at work or the invisible person posting my bills or tallying my toll bridge journeys.


    That's ONE driver, on ONE day. If you're deciding that "many" bus drivers hate their jobs based on that, cop yourself on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    I love nothing more than coming up to a bus stop, nobody leaving the bus and people standing there staring like sheep at their phones as I sail by with a smile on my face knowing they fuc/ked up.

    Great job lads

    I love doing the complete opposite - pulling up alongside them and opening the door as they stare at their phones. People are so used to grumpy bus drivers who resent the public that anything even remotely helpful or decent completely shocks them.

    It's a piss-easy job that pays relatively well - there's no excuse for not being decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    I love doing the complete opposite - pulling up alongside them and opening the door as they stare at their phones. People are so used to grumpy bus drivers who resent the public that anything even remotely helpful or decent completely shocks them.

    It's a piss-easy job that pays relatively well - there's no excuse for not being decent.

    It's called respect.

    If they don't have it for us then I don't have it for them.

    It's fair game, if they say please and thank you, I will too. Doesn't take much to be nice but it goes both ways, the more you give the more they take and they do take the piss at times !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Edgware wrote: »
    The driver has a timetable to keep. Be at the stop in time or wait for the next one

    Timetables :rolleyes:


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/412/

    Theres what passes for a "time table" with Dublin Bus. Could you tell me what time the first bus out of Swords picks up at Santry, say the Onmiplex?? They tell you what time it is supposed to leave the terminus and the rest is in the lap of the gods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    It's called respect.

    If they don't have it for us then I don't have it for them.

    It's fair game, if they say please and thank you, I will too. Doesn't take much to be nice but it goes both ways, the more you give the more they take and they do take the piss at times !

    Punishing people for being a bit dozy isn't very respectful though. I find that 99% of people are extremely grateful when you do them a favour (i.e. stop when they haven't seen the bus coming, wait for them when you see them running towards you, etc).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Punishing people for being a bit dozy isn't very respectful though. I find that 99% of people are extremely grateful when you do them a favour (i.e. stop when they haven't seen the bus coming, wait for them when you see them running towards you, etc).

    There's a big difference to someone running for the bus than someone sitting there on their phone expecting things to just happen for them

    I've no problem waiting for someone running up but people that are too ignorant to follow the basics of look out for the bus coming and put your hand out ? I'm not their servant, are we suppose to pay their fare for them too ? Hope their hand getting on and personally get them a seat ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    There's a big difference to someone running for the bus than someone sitting there on their phone expecting things to just happen for them

    I've no problem waiting for someone running up but people that are too ignorant to follow the basics of look out for the bus coming and put your hand out ? I'm not their servant, are we suppose to pay their fare for them too ? Hope their hand getting on and personally get them a seat ?

    Most of the time, they're not being ignorant - they're just dopey fuckers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Timetables :rolleyes:


    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/412/

    Theres what passes for a "time table" with Dublin Bus. Could you tell me what time the first bus out of Swords picks up at Santry, say the Onmiplex?? They tell you what time it is supposed to leave the terminus and the rest is in the lap of the gods.

    5:38am if you can do the simple addition that they provide under the timetable :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    5:38am if you can do the simple addition that they provide under the timetable :rolleyes:


    Yes but the link between buses and the app/timetable are decoupled within a few minutes of departure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Right. Anybody who has ever worked with the public (and EVERYONE should) will be able to tell you: The public are scum. PEOPLE may be fine but The Public are ignorant entitled a**holes.

    As for the OP. He wants every single Dublin Bus to stop at every single bus stop they pass. Irregardless of whether the bus is supposed to stop there or not and even if NOBODY wants to get on or off the bus. He wants this for the benefit of people who so rarely use the service that they have never seen anyone flag down a bus before (And yes, people DO flag down busses in other countries. To say they don't is simply incorrect. Anyone who says they don't is 100% wrong).

    The OP wants this to happen, simply for these users to the severe inconvenience of all the regular day-in-day-out users. Others also want this but also want the busses to run 100% on time.

    Can you imagine what would happen if every single bus slowed down, pulled in, stopped, waited 15-30 seconds, waited for potential runners, waited for a chance to pull out into traffic, pulled into traffic, got up to speed and did this.... At. Every. Stop. They. Pass. Even if there is nobody there or nobody wants to get on or off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Most of the time, they're not being ignorant - they're just dopey fuckers.

    Would teach them not to be dopey fuckers if you drove past them though so might benefit them in the long run.

    Might even save their live one day if they're the type that would use their phone crossing the road too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Take it up with the unions boyo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    How does one hail a taxi????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    How does one hail a taxi????


    On your phone


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