Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

Capt. Autumn · 01-05-2020 2:11pm #1

Can I kick off with Dyson?

A huge launch and massive marketing drive for Dyson products but I've always been underwhelmed by how they actually perform. Maybe the fuss generated is something to do with it being the first UK designed product to make a big splash in many the year but, for me, they are the Apple of products from a marketing perspective but an Acer in terms of performance.

When I finally kicked my under-performing Dyson to the kerb and replaced in with a big ugly Meile, I nearly cried in gratitude when I heard the motor rumble to life and watched as my carpet was sucked to within an inch of it's life.

So, what brands do you think are overrated?

Wizard! · 01-05-2020 2:15pm

Lacoste
I still have some polo shirts I bought back in the 80's. Their colors are saturated, the fabric still perfect.
However, the new ones? From mid 90's and later?
Worse than some Chinese copies you buy for 5 euros. However, the prices are still high.

Nautica
Similar case, but they were never of good quality, although they are at the same price range of Lacoste

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2020 2:24pm

Wizard! wrote: »

Lacoste
I still have some polo shirts I bought back in the 80's. Their colors are saturated, the fabric still perfect.
However, the new ones? From mid 90's and later?
Worse than some Chinese copies you buy for 5 euros. However, the prices are still high.

Nautica
Similar case, but they were never of good quality, although they are at the same price range of Lacoste

Agree about lacoste

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2020 2:25pm

Black and decker

Total sh1te

JohnnyFlash · 01-05-2020 2:26pm

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

Can I kick off with Dyson?

A huge launch and massive marketing drive for Dyson products but I've always been underwhelmed by how they actually perform. Maybe the fuss generatedis something to do with it being the first UK designed product to make a big splash in many the year but, for me, they are the Apple of products from a marketing perspective but an Acer in terms of performance.

When I finally kicked my under-performing Dyson to the kerb and replaced in with a big ugly Meile, I nearly cried in gratitude when I heard the motor rumble to life and watched as my carpet was sucked within an inch of it's life.

So, what brands do you think are overrated?

Ya, Dysons are shít. Get yourself a Miele, Nilfisk or Henry.

Nespresso coffee isn’t up to much is it?

Strumms · 01-05-2020 2:27pm

Lacoste seem to have really crap sizing... too short and too wide. The FCUK polos are miles better in terms of sizing and quality and the color and overall quality.

Another brand overrated....

Firetrap, literally everything I’ve had either shrinks or falls apart.

Falthyron · 01-05-2020 2:33pm

Everything and anything related to Apple.

Amirani · 01-05-2020 2:33pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Nespresso coffee isn’t up to much is it?

Agreed, all the capsules have the same weird taste to them.

Aeropress and some freshly ground coffee doesn't take much more time to make, far better quick option if you don't want to fork out for an espresso machine.

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 01-05-2020 2:36pm

Cadburys chocolate, it's gone to ****

the kelt · 01-05-2020 2:37pm

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

Can I kick off with Dyson?

A huge launch and massive marketing drive for Dyson products but I've always been underwhelmed by how they actually perform. Maybe the fuss generated is something to do with it being the first UK designed product to make a big splash in many the year but, for me, they are the Apple of products from a marketing perspective but an Acer in terms of performance.

When I finally kicked my under-performing Dyson to the kerb and replaced in with a big ugly Meile, I nearly cried in gratitude when I heard the motor rumble to life and watched as my carpet was sucked to within an inch of it's life.

So, what brands do you think are overrated?

Yep i would agree 100% with Dyson, bought one new, heap of crap whilst VAX machines we had previously were great.

Ill add in BMW, bought a 4 year old 3 series a few years ago, heap of dirt, never had as many things go wrong with a car in my life, rattly and not even a nice car to drive. Lovely looking cars with a name but wouldnt think of buying one again (maybe i was just unlucky with that one car)

Kiss1037 · 01-05-2020 2:38pm

Beats , pure marketing, loads of articles about where the cost of the product sits, 70% of total production cost is in marketing

Also , just threw the Dyson out he back today , has been replaced by a Miele , never again

loyatemu · 01-05-2020 2:42pm

+1 on Nespresso; we switched to a bean-to-cup machine and the coffee is way better, even with cheap beans. Also cheaper and less plastic waste.

Dolmio - their sauces are muck, much better available from Lidl and Aldi.

Strumms · 01-05-2020 2:43pm

Falthyron wrote: »

Everything and anything related to Apple.

I really love the iPad but any other apple product that I’ve had I wasn’t a fan of. Had for a while an iPhone for work about 10 years ago and it was a laggy, bland piece of crap even allowing for it being 2010.

Bassfish · 01-05-2020 2:47pm

Kiss1037 wrote: »

Beats , pure marketing, loads of articles about where the cost of the product sits, 70% of total production cost is in marketing

Also , just threw the Dyson out he back today , has been replaced by a Miele , never again

Agreed re Beats, they're all bottom end. As Lemmy said "it's like listening to music through a f***ing pillow"

dan1895 · 01-05-2020 2:51pm

+1 for Nespresso. Our machine is basically a kitchen worktop ornament. Mmmm Luke warm bland coffee. Lidl instant is nicer.

The Tetrarch · 01-05-2020 3:05pm

Kiss1037 wrote: »

Also , just threw the Dyson out he back today , has been replaced by a Miele , never again

I have a Miele washing machine. Excellent. Built like a tank.
Had a poor experience with a new Toyota car.
Bought a Sinn watch online. Useless, spent all its life in a drawer.

gormdubhgorm · 01-05-2020 3:09pm

loyatemu wrote: »

Dolmio - their sauces are muck, much better available from Lidl and Aldi.

The funny part is Lidl sell Dolmio beside the cheaper sauces. No one ends up buying the Dolmio and they have to end up putting them on offer.

Any brand name headphones or earphones have to be the biggest waste.
Oh ripped Jeans there is another one that makes no sense. They cost more because they have to be distressed.

cj maxx · 01-05-2020 3:12pm

Yeah actually, Toyota. Advenis was pure shyte.
+1 on Dyson.
Really any of the so-called premium brands are over rated.
All mod-cons now are built to last X years and give up

The Tetrarch · 01-05-2020 3:17pm

cj maxx wrote: »

Yeah actually, Toyota. Advenis was pure shyte.
+1 on Dyson.
Really any of the so-called premium brands are over rated.
All mod-cons now are built to last X years and give up

How did you know it was an Avensis?

iamstop · 01-05-2020 3:21pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Any brand name headphones or earphones have to be the biggest waste.

Have to politely disagree. I got a pair of Sennheiser headphones a few years ago for about $25 CAD or about 16 Euro. Still have them and carry them everywhere in my bag. Great for flights too.

My contribution is Nike and most other 'big name' running shoes. $200 for a pair of sneakers? Eh, no.

storker · 01-05-2020 3:25pm

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

Can I kick off with Dyson?

Pleaase do. A triumph of hype over functionality and reliability. We replaced ours with a Miele that would suck the wool out of the carpet. Brilliant.

Never tried Nespresso, but we got one of the Lavazza machines (made by AEG) and we love it.

Apple, yes good but overpriced, and iTunes is one of the worst pieces of sh1tware I've ever had to use. I dumped my iPhone for Android years ago and never looked back.

Sac O Spuds · 01-05-2020 4:29pm

loyatemu wrote: »

+1 on Nespresso; we switched to a bean-to-cup machine and the coffee is way better, even with cheap beans. Also cheaper and less plastic waste.

Dolmio - their sauces are muck, much better available from Lidl and Aldi.

Dolmio is about as Italian as my big toe. Neighbour had an Italian aupair a few yrs back and she said she never heard or saw Dolmio sauces back home.

gormdubhgorm · 01-05-2020 4:50pm

iamstop wrote: »

Have to politely disagree. I got a pair of Sennheiser headphones a few years ago for about $25 CAD or about 16 Euro. Still have them and carry them everywhere in my bag. Great for flights too.

My contribution is Nike and most other 'big name' running shoes. $200 for a pair of sneakers? Eh, no.

Sorry I should have clarified those similar headphones could have be been purchased online from china for a much lower price.

IAMAMORON · 01-05-2020 4:51pm

BMW

FVP3 · 01-05-2020 4:57pm

Strumms wrote: »

I really love the iPad but any other apple product that I’ve had I wasn’t a fan of. Had for a while an iPhone for work about 10 years ago and it was a laggy, bland piece of crap even allowing for it being 2010.

Whatever phone Apple produced in 2010 was way ahead of the competition at the time. I mean my personal iPhone 7 beats the crap out of most Android phones, and I get to use a lot of phones at work.

Snails pace · 01-05-2020 5:02pm

Toyota Land Cruiser, a totally over rated jeep.

Mazda cars, their absolutely brutal. Constant engine poblems with them

John Deere, they used to be value for money now their way over priced.

mikemac2 · 01-05-2020 5:34pm

Strumms wrote: »

Had for a while an iPhone for work about 10 years ago and it was a laggy, bland piece of crap even allowing for it being 2010.

In 2010 were you comparing it against other phones on the market for 2010?

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2020 5:37pm

Snails pace wrote: »

Toyota Land Cruiser, a totally over rated jeep.

Mazda cars, their absolutely brutal. Constant engine poblems with them

John Deere, they used to be value for money now their way over priced.

You're dead wrong about the landcruiser

Littlehorny · 01-05-2020 5:41pm

BMW, Mercedes and Audi basically all the German "premium" car range. All style over substance, unreliable, horrendously hard to work on and mortgage level repair bill when something goes wrong.
Even standard German makes are overrated as well - Opel (pure muck) and VW (about the best of a bad lot granted)

whisky_galore · 01-05-2020 5:54pm

Levis jeans, gone to sh1t. Haven't bought any in years since the last 2 pairs didn't last p*ssing time.
Disingenious "Irish" brand names like Siuicra, pretending to wave the green flag when sugar hasn't been made here in decades.

Strumms · 01-05-2020 6:32pm

iamstop wrote: »

Have to politely disagree. I got a pair of Sennheiser headphones a few years ago for about $25 CAD or about 16 Euro. Still have them and carry them everywhere in my bag. Great for flights too.

My contribution is Nike and most other 'big name' running shoes. $200 for a pair of sneakers? Eh, no.

Sennheiser are quality, seriously good but seriously pricy unfortunately. A pair of in ear Bluetooth headphones that were 168 euro reduced to 107.

https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/sennheiser-momentum-free-wireless-headphone-black.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwka_1BRCPARIsAMlUmEo15vYMH1r-yLiq80WYTe7QAROkWO2jUnXQ_pbQRyQQHE2YEZjzOcIaAnnaEALw_wcB

And more...wireless...

https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/headphones/all-headphones/headphones-ireland/sennheiser-momentum-2.0-wireless-headphones-black.html

Speak Now · 01-05-2020 6:36pm

I'll be lynched but Guinness!

Ubbquittious · 01-05-2020 6:49pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Black and decker

Total sh1te

Used to be brilliant in the 80s have 3 drills by them older than myself and a few other things still working grand.

But then some fat lazy English bastid working for them decided he was too good for actually making power tools so he decided to team up with some Hu Flung Dung manufacturer in Guangdong or Wuhan to make some power tools on the cheap with the same brand name. Aforementioned fat English guy got to spend 20 years with a brand new Lamborghini under his hole and doing very little work while he ran his brand name well and truly into the ground.

Ditto for AEG, Russel hobbs. Hard to think of a big name manufacturer who hasn't fallen victim to this carry on in some way. Even world famous mad expensive oscilloscope manufacturer Agilent (now Keysight) was caught selling relabled Chinese scopes

IAMAMORON · 01-05-2020 6:52pm

Speak Now wrote: »

I'll be lynched but Guinness!

Are you referring to Guinness as a stout or as a brand?

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2020 9:16pm

Littlehorny wrote: »

BMW, Mercedes and Audi basically all the German "premium" car range. All style over substance, unreliable, horrendously hard to work on and mortgage level repair bill when something goes wrong.
Even standard German makes are overrated as well - Opel (pure muck) and VW (about the best of a bad lot granted)

what cars do you like may i ask ?

i dont disagree with you on the germans by the way

gormdubhgorm · 01-05-2020 10:13pm

Has anyone said Apple yet? Branding at it's best leading to overpricing.
Trying to pretend they care and rip people off when they want an Apple product repaired.

Also McDonalds - horrible food - much prefer local Italian chippers

Sky King · 01-05-2020 10:19pm

Can I kick off with Dyson?

Yeah I had a Dyson vacuum. It sucked.

storker · 01-05-2020 11:46pm

Sac O Spuds wrote: »

Dolmio is about as Italian as my big toe. Neighbour had an Italian aupair a few yrs back and she said she never heard or saw Dolmio sauces back home.

We've holidayed in Italy a few times and never saw Dolmio on the supermarket shelves over there either. What we did see was Barilla sauces which we tried while there and found fine. They sell them in Tesco so we use them as an emergency standby, but making your own tomato sauce is so easy that most of the time the jar stays in the cupboard.

We never buy Dolmio. When's-a your pasta day me arse.

Iodine1 · 02-05-2020 12:01am

VW fine, Audi fine, but BMW? Had a BMW. Great take off and in a straight line. And comfort, sitting almost on the floor, crippling on any long journey. Cars half the price were like luxury models.

JohnnyFlash · 02-05-2020 12:22am

Falthyron wrote: »

Everything and anything related to Apple.

It's worth paying a premium for Apple devices because they are the last major tech company who still give half a damn about personal privacy. It's the tech equivalent of the overton window.

anewme · 02-05-2020 12:27am

Iodine1 wrote: »

VW fine, Audi fine, but BMW? Had a BMW. Great take off and in a straight line. And comfort, sitting almost on the floor, crippling on any long journey. Cars half the price were like luxury models.

What car exactly are you referring to?

Still waters · 02-05-2020 12:40am

Snails pace wrote: »

Toyota Land Cruiser, a totally over rated jeep.

Couldn't agree more, good durability and stamina for normal work but haven't the guts when worked for a living, plenty good for farmers and the equestrian types who pull small loads now and again, for the price of them i think people who buy them are really only after an image rather than a workhorse

Purple Mountain · 02-05-2020 12:45am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ya, Dysons are shít. Get yourself a Miele, Nilfisk or Henry.

Nespresso coffee isn’t up to much is it?

Henry : no way.
My one is a clumpy yolk and the handle part is very cumbersome to move around the floor.

Esel · 02-05-2020 12:46am

Snails pace wrote: »

Toyota Land Cruiser, a totally over rated jeep.

Mazda cars, their absolutely brutal. Constant engine poblems with them

John Deere, they used to be value for money now their way over priced.

Only the Mazda diesel engines, afaik.

c.p.w.g.w · 02-05-2020 12:51am

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

Can I kick off with Dyson?

A huge launch and massive marketing drive for Dyson products but I've always been underwhelmed by how they actually perform. Maybe the fuss generated is something to do with it being the first UK designed product to make a big splash in many the year but, for me, they are the Apple of products from a marketing perspective but an Acer in terms of performance.

When I finally kicked my under-performing Dyson to the kerb and replaced in with a big ugly Meile, I nearly cried in gratitude when I heard the motor rumble to life and watched as my carpet was sucked to within an inch of it's life.

So, what brands do you think are overrated?

Have a dyson...3 years still going strong...it was pricey but its so convenient and easy to clean and maintain

threeball · 02-05-2020 1:14am

Iodine1 wrote: »

VW fine, Audi fine, but BMW? Had a BMW. Great take off and in a straight line. And comfort, sitting almost on the floor, crippling on any long journey. Cars half the price were like luxury models.

Agree the Audi A6 is a fine car, built like a tank. Mate had a BMW 5 series and it felt cheap as chips. Like the panelling would come off in your hand. Wouldn't have one.

Xertz · 02-05-2020 1:17am

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Have a dyson...3 years still going strong...it was pricey but its so convenient and easy to clean and maintain

I have a Miele since 1995 and it's still working perfectly and all the parts are fully available - filters, bags, hoses, brushes ...
It's quiet, extremely powerful, built very well, excellent filtration. HEPA filters just snap in and are easily available from Miele online, 23+ years after the machine was made.

Had a Dyson and found it way less practically built and far too noisy.

Miele's washing machines and dryers are expensive but they're nearly commercial laundrette quality and just go on and on and on.

I don't really agree with the criticism of Apple though. They're over priced, I'll agree with that, but in general I've found their hardware and service to be excellent over the years - when I have had an issue they've been brilliant for support and even complete replacement of machines. Also they support with software updates for MUCH longer than any Android vendor, including Google and you don't have those annoying vendor-specific delays on rollout of new software. Some of the Android manufacturers are beyond bad with that.

Apple definitely had a rather lagging behind the state-of-the-art for a while with iPhones but that's generally passed.

Of the items I've found poor recently:

Samsung - found support very bad for a Galaxy Note 9 that developed hardware issues and the device was also far too fragile.

Sony - again poor support for AV stuff.

Google - Completely abandoned my Nexus when it was quite new. No further updates. Effectively bin it.

ACitizenErased · 02-05-2020 1:25am

Cadburys 10000000%. Muck.

Xertz · 02-05-2020 1:26am

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cadburys 10000000%. Muck.

Well that's since the takeover by Mondelez. Chocolate is best not made by accountants and fund managers. Chocolatiers are far better!

They also will put Oreos in EVERYTHING and assume that everyone likes Oreos ...

E.g. Philadelphia with Oreos: https://www.philadelphia.de/produkte/philadelphia-mousse/philadelphia-mousse-oreo?p=29727&provider=%7BD193998A-4A6D-4EA5-BAA8-209357B27A09%7D&categoryId=18739

Cadbury's with Oreos: https://www.cadbury.co.uk/products/cadbury-dairy-milk-oreo-11298

Milka with Oreos : https://www.milka.nl/products/milka-countlines/milka-oreo?p=8361&provider=%7BD193998A-4A6D-4EA5-BAA8-209357B27A09%7D&categoryId=5559

Basically their solution to everything seems to be acquire really good brand like Cadbury's or Milka or inherit Philadelphia from Kraft.
Reduce the quality of the ingredients by accounting based cooking and then stuff it full of Oreos.

Strumms · 02-05-2020 1:29am

mikemac2 wrote: »

In 2010 were you comparing it against other phones on the market for 2010?

The phone I had immediately after that was the Galaxy S2 and that was just so good in terms of everything, it pissed all over the iPhone of then for me.. brilliant piece of technology and I think it’s one of the reasons why I stuck with Samsung phones ever since. I have a J6 now which is an amazing piece of kit.

Westernyelp · 02-05-2020 1:31am

Hey, Have any of you guys said Apple? Or maybe Bono? he's bad too.

Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

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