General Arcade & Retro Chat' Special Championship Edition

Jack burton wrote: »

Bit off topic but saw this

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/356510011/3dfort-3d-printer-print-anything-you-want?ref=ezgiri&utm_source=jellop&ja=jcf&utm_medium=facebook&utm_term=014.jcf&utm_content=3DFort-CL03&utm_campaign=1587234771247.co0s

Wondering if it's any good? I know some lads here are experienced with 3D printers. Want this to make a few small bits for Lazer Steak. Nothing too over the top

I've 2 working 3D printers at the minute, and what I can say is:

1: Be prepared to maintain it, parts break regularly on most printers (depending on use) so taking it apart can become a regular occurrence (they've gotten better in general over the past year or two).
2: The print quality is terrible by the photos, no heated bed and lots of warping.
3: Delivery date for this is stated as 6 months (they usually take longer)
4: This looks like a typical scam, there have been tonnes on "Entry Level" 3D printers on Kickstarter over the years and I would say on 70% backers received 0, look at the ONO/OLO, Obsidian and the many other (less high profile) failures. If I were buying an entry-level 3d printer now, I'd be looking more towards the Ender 3 (probably less than 200) or one of the original Prusa I3 clone kits (Probably less than 150 now). Another cool one was Hobbyking's Turnigy Fabrikator V2 if you can find one, they were small form factor like the one mentioned, very very cheap and worked reasonably well it seemed.

dav09 wrote: »

I've 2 working 3D printers at the minute, and what I can say is:

1: Be prepared to maintain it, parts break regularly on most printers (depending on use) so taking it apart can become a regular occurrence (they've gotten better in general over the past year or two).
2: The print quality is terrible by the photos, no heated bed and lots of warping.
3: Delivery date for this is stated as 6 months (they usually take longer)
4: This looks like a typical scam, there have been tonnes on "Entry Level" 3D printers on Kickstarter over the years and I would say on 70% backers received 0, look at the ONO/OLO, Obsidian and the many other (less high profile) failures. If I were buying an entry-level 3d printer now, I'd be looking more towards the Ender 3 (probably less than 200) or one of the original Prusa I3 clone kits (Probably less than 150 now). Another cool one was Hobbyking's Turnigy Fabrikator V2 if you can find one, they were small form factor like the one mentioned, very very cheap and worked reasonably well it seemed.

Kind of thought it might have been a bit too good to be true. I'd say I'm just better off paying someone to print me stuff on a good printer when I need them really.

Thanks for the insight dude

Jack burton wrote: »

Kind of thought it might have been a bit too good to be true. I'd say I'm just better off paying someone to print me stuff on a good printer when I need them really.

Thanks for the insight dude

Reminds me of a recent Linus video, well worth watching

Andrew76 wrote: »

I’ve haven’t been on A&R enough lately, has Steve SI x2 changed his username again?

I was wondering what the Greek Mother was up to these days As for Steve, he popped in recently enough, think he's printing PPE for front line services, alongside being a God-tier collector as always

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy wrote: »

He can stay level 8 if he's a rake of pints too, still twice as good as me at it, even by closing he was still going on thought I'd have done chance by then but no way, I honestly dunno how he does it.

Yeah very impressive, neither do I at all.

Most of my experience on it has been after a rake of pints in fairness but I think they have the opposite effect on me with that game! Hoping to have a much better range or rhythm games for when we're back up and running, things in the works but we'll see what happens, there's plenty from Japan which are good fun. I went to Las Vegas Soho London a month or two ago before this all kicked off for some research and they've some really cool stuff there.

Inviere wrote: »

As for Steve, he popped in recently enough, think he's printing PPE for front line services, alongside being a God-tier collector as always

Yep I'm still around and still 3D printing like mad

Steve X2 wrote: »

Yep I'm still around and still 3D printing like mad

Fair play to you! When I heard there were people using their 3D printers to create frontline medical equipment I had a feeling your one would be churning stuff out

dav09 wrote: »

Yeah very impressive, neither do I at all.

Most of my experience on it has been after a rake of pints in fairness but I think they have the opposite effect on me with that game! Hoping to have a much better range or rhythm games for when we're back up and running, things in the works but we'll see what happens, there's plenty from Japan which are good fun. I went to Las Vegas Soho London a month or two ago before this all kicked off for some research and they've some really cool stuff there.

Ton Ton in Amsterdam used to do a thing twice a year it's a warehouse full of arcade cabs and might be something to keep an eye on maybe? The most popular one there there was BishiBashi, I was there 3 hours, I couldn't get a go of it, Chabudai (table flip) was next to it and if was busy enough so I'd play that and then hang around for Bishi Bashi but it never let up.



Not really rhythm really though

dav09 wrote: »

Nice and I certainly will. I haven't actually heard of BishiBashi but it looks cool, Cho Chabudai Gaeshi is one we discussed and all of us thought it was really cool, so if we do go that route then that's one that could make an appearance. And yeah not just rhythm games, we're considering anything.

Any idea what else was popular? Some of the ones I really enjoyed were Sound Voltex, Groove Coaster, Taiko no Tatsujin and a few others.

DDR was always full they'd like 6 set up together on a platform, I'll send you the event link, was yeeears ago but might get ideas, has loads of photos and stuff.
They'd a cardboard giant Jenga they'd to use a forklift for that was popular too.
Maybe Crossy Road was a bit, lots of couples so I think the proper game stuff wasn't as busy, like pinball wasnt, no one wanted House of Dead so we cleared it, casual is probably the word.

dav09 wrote: »

Cool, some of that stuff sounds interesting for sure and thanks for the info, I'll check out what sent on that's great.

I found this one in my photos, no idea what it is though
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Retr0gamer wrote: »

How is N64 emulation coming along?

One thing about it was the texture filtering looked all kinds of wrong on emulation and the recent DF retro video on the excellent Doom 64 conversion highlighted this. Apparently the N64 used a weird three point sampling method for textures which actually antialiased daigonal lines in textures unlike using the normal technique which produces stepped artifacts. The developer had to use custom shaders to get the effect, is something similar in current N64 emulators?

Seen that video myself, t'was interesting for sure. In terms of emulating N64, the Mupen64 Plus core with full Angrylion support is the closest I've ever seen N64 emulation come to the original hardware's look. It needs a fast cpu, so forget about running it on a Pi etc. However, I prefer not to use Angrylion, as while it's hugely accurate, I much prefer to upscale the internal resolution of N64 games....they look like absolute cack, even on original hardware. The only way I can enjoy them is with the resolution increased. I'm not sure how Angrylion handles the three point sampling method, a lot of the info out there is years old at this stage & doesn't reflect recent developments.

"Angrylion is the most accurate the graphics are going to get with an N64 emulator – and it can be made relatively fast now thanks to the multithreading capabilities of Angrylion RDP Plus, as well as the Parallel RSP dynarec. You cannot internally change the resolution with Angrylion beyond what the N64 was capable of." - https://www.libretro.com/index.php/category/nintendo-64/

Just seen a bunch of the 1up Machines in Walmart in America were reduced to $50. Could be worth keeping an eye on sites over here?

Jack burton wrote: »

Just seen a bunch of the 1up Machines in Walmart in America were reduced to $50. Could be worth keeping an eye on sites over here?

A friend of mine got a Space Invaders for €83 from TK Maxx in Limerick (I rushed to the store 50 mins after once work finished and they were gone), that was I'd say a year or two ago, but keep your eyes peeled. The Star Wars, NBA Jam and the Centipede ones are cool for their controls, but probably wouldn't be interested unless they were a real bargain like that. The real deal cabs aren't much more expensive than some.

Snatcher is on the PCE Mini? anyone else find that a bit weird?

Would be like Sega Mega CD Snatcher being on the Megadrive mini. Kind of cool to have but takes away from the authenticity somewhat?

What are some retro gaming channels on YT that are good to watch? Currently, I regularly look at stuff from the following,

- Cinemassacre
- MetalJesusRocks
- LGR
- Larry Bundy Jr.
- N64GlennPlant
- Console Wars

briany wrote: »

What are some retro gaming channels on YT that are good to watch? Currently, I regularly look at stuff from the following,

- Cinemassacre
- MetalJesusRocks
- LGR
- Larry Bundy Jr.
- N64GlennPlant
- Console Wars

Digital Foundry (for their RetroDF content, regular channel for gaming hardware)
Kim Justice (just fantastic content)
Modern Vintage Gamer (mostly retro hardware pieces)
Stop Skeletons from Fighting (formerly the Happy Video Game Nerd)
The 8-bit Guy
Ahoy
Chris Chapman
Clan of the Grey Wolf (for the 16bit Gems content, seems sadly to be ceased now)
The Gaming Historian (really love this channel)
Sharopolis
strafefox
Summoning Salt (solid world record progression docs)
Tech Rules

The ZX Spectrum sounds like it was a complete pain in the arse. I don't remember ever using that particular machine, but I do remember my family had a lend of a Commodore 64 and a bag of tapes, and if the experience of trying to load some of those was anything to go by, a Saturday night on the Speccy was probably a slow one.