Peter Casey to contest the European elections

12-04-2019 11:48am

Oh my god

12-04-2019 11:50am

This morning I cleverly hid the fact that I am a thief by cheekily paying for my milk and bread. The spar shop are so stupid, I get away with my cunning plan every day!!!

Plumbthedepths · 12-04-2019 11:51am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote:

Oh my god

Hilarious isn't it, Casey said he thinks everyone should be treated the same and a bunch of ........... make a formal complaint to the Guards. You couldn't make it up.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 11:56am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yeah I remember several telling you your compliant would be filed in the bin.

Well the answer we got suggests that it wasn't 'filed in the bin' as somebody had to review what was said to reach the conclusion given.

I am happy that I did my civic duty and call it out. And will do so again if necessary. So your dismissive patronising point is falling on deaf ears TBH

98q76e12hrflnk · 12-04-2019 12:02pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes we did and it went nowhere. What he said didn't reach the 'threshold' apparently.

You can see that as luck on Casey's part, or that he cleverly crafted it to fall short of incitement legislation.

Bahahaha

Any respect I had for your lot COMPLETELY EVAPORATED! :pac::pac::pac:

mgn · 12-04-2019 12:03pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well the answer we got suggests that it wasn't 'filed in the bin' as somebody had to review what was said to reach the conclusion given.

I am happy that I did my civic duty and call it out. And will do so again if necessary. So your dismissive patronising point is falling on deaf ears TBH

Did you do your civic duty and call out Mary Lou when she marched behind a banner with the slogan England get out of Ireland.

Edgware · 12-04-2019 12:06pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well the answer we got suggests that it wasn't 'filed in the bin' as somebody had to review what was said to reach the conclusion given.

I am happy that I did my civic duty and call it out. And will do so again if necessary. So your dismissive patronising point is falling on deaf ears TBH

Following review it then went in the bin

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:06pm

mgn wrote: »

Did you do your civic duty and call out Mary Lou when she marched behind a banner with the slogan England get out of Ireland.

Why would I do that?

Plumbthedepths · 12-04-2019 12:08pm

FrancieBrady wrote:

I am happy that I did my civic duty and call it out. And will do so again if necessary. So your dismissive patronising point is falling on deaf ears TBH

The fact you had to respond contradicts you.

tigerboon · 12-04-2019 12:10pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

He wants to ban single use plastics, that will mean more tax for consumers if he’s successful.

I agree with his views on travellers, but unless he comes up with an alternative to single use plastics we’ll all have to pay for it.

His starting point should be to run for local election.

Most single use plastics are unnecessary. We don't need water from bottles, the taps are full of the stuff. We don't need plastic glasses and straws when you can drink straight from the paper cup. We survived for millennia without them. We're paying a fortune anyway cleaning it up from all the hedgerows in every part of the country. If they are used both the user and the producer should be taxed to pay for the clean up. Alternatives will be found when there's a cost saving to be had.

Deebles McBeebles · 12-04-2019 12:10pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And achieved precisely what?

They got to vent I suppose, but in practical terms, that just entrenched positions more.
Great.
Now he is going to try it again and run a campaign that is Irexit in everything but name, which allows him to do exactly the same thing as he did with travellers - i.e. he will voice soundbytes that appeal to those who have a kneejerk, irrational dislike/hate of the EU then wave his hands and say I never said I hate the EU. :rolleyes:

Hope you have proof of that. Would hate to see Casey make a complaint to the Gardai against you.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:10pm

Edgware wrote: »

Following review it then went in the bin

Fair enough.
Was the prospect of that happening reason enough to not do it in the first place, (having witnessed the bile and hate he unleashed). Absolutely not.

Plumbthedepths · 12-04-2019 12:11pm

Anyhoo, Casey may have a chance at Harkins vacant seat along with the former winner of the lovely girl contest M Walshe. I reckon Ming is safe if he contests the Euro elections.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:13pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The fact you had to respond contradicts you.

Well I got in before you accused me of running away. I can't win either way, it seems.

What are you making of his anti Euro currency stance by the way? Or are you single issue concerned only?

Plumbthedepths · 12-04-2019 12:18pm

FrancieBrady wrote:

What are you making of his anti Euro currency stance by the way? Or are you single issue concerned only?

I could care less what his stance on the Euro is tbh. We are stuck with and it's going nowhere. Also I'm not shocked at a wannabe candidate saying something that resonates with a section of the electorate, it's generally what they do to try and get elected. Like SF appealing to the wasters in society by promising to gave them more money for nothing if they get elected.

mgn · 12-04-2019 12:19pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why would I do that?

You seem to take your civic duty seriously.I would have thought to someone like you a banner like that would entice hatred to the English living in Ireland.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:25pm

mgn wrote: »

You seem to take your civic duty seriously.I would have thought to someone like you a banner like that would entice hatred to the English living in Ireland.

I 'educated/informed' myself as to what the banner was about. It has nothing whatsoever to do with 'English people living in Ireland'.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:25pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I could care less what his stance on the Euro is tbh. We are stuck with and it's going nowhere. Also I'm not shocked at a wannabe candidate saying something that resonates with a section of the electorate, it's generally what they do to try and get elected. Like SF appealing to the wasters in society by promising to gave them more money for nothing if they get elected.

Are you voting for him this time out?

Jackman25 · 12-04-2019 12:28pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fair enough.
Was the prospect of that happening reason enough to not do it in the first place, (having witnessed the bile and hate he unleashed). Absolutely not.

What hatred and bile did he unleash?

mgn · 12-04-2019 12:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I 'educated/informed' myself as to what the banner was about. It has nothing whatsoever to do with 'English people living in Ireland'.

And when did you become educated/informed that Casey was racist towards travellers and went to the Guards.

98q76e12hrflnk · 12-04-2019 12:39pm

mgn wrote: »

And when did you become educated/informed that Casey was racist towards travellers and went to the Guards.

He went on john connors twitter.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:41pm

mgn wrote: »

And when did you become educated/informed that Casey was racist towards travellers and went to the Guards.

I never claimed he was 'racist'.

I realised he was trying to incite hatred when he stated that travellers are 'basically people that are camping on someone else's land'.

Which if you know anything is just wrong and a myth - the peddling of which is intended to demean.

mgn · 12-04-2019 12:45pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never claimed he was 'racist'.

I realised he was trying to incite hatred when he stated that travellers are 'basically people that are camping on someone else's land'.

Which if you know anything is just wrong and a myth - the peddling of which is intended to demean.

That's not called incitement to hatred.It's called telling the truth in my book.

98q76e12hrflnk · 12-04-2019 12:45pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never claimed he was 'racist'.

I realised he was trying to incite hatred when he stated that travellers are 'basically people that are camping on someone else's land'.

Which if you know anything is just wrong and a myth - the peddling of which is intended to demean.

There was no need for that it was already there.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:52pm

mgn wrote: »

That's not called incitement to hatred.It's called telling the truth in my book.

You say this despite the fact actually being that the vast majority of travellers live in settled accommodation?

Never let the truth get in the way of stereotyping. :rolleyes:

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 12:54pm

declan2693 wrote: »

There was no need for that it was already there.

No doubt. That is why 'incite' is the word used. 'Incite = stir up/encourage'

Danzy · 12-04-2019 1:22pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes we did and it went nowhere. What he said didn't reach the 'threshold' apparently.

You can see that as luck on Casey's part, or that he cleverly crafted it to fall short of incitement legislation.

At least he had an excuse to all meet up and socialize, couple bottles of Bollinger I'm guessing.

recedite · 12-04-2019 1:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes we did and it went nowhere. What he said didn't reach the 'threshold' apparently.

You can see that as luck on Casey's part, or that he cleverly crafted it to fall short of incitement legislation.

Tell that to the whale!

Necro · 12-04-2019 1:54pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes we did and it went nowhere. What he said didn't reach the 'threshold' apparently.

You can see that as luck on Casey's part, or that he cleverly crafted it to fall short of incitement legislation.

:pac::pac::pac::pac:

This is the funniest thing I've seen on AH in quite some time.

Ursus Horribilis · 12-04-2019 1:56pm

Well, it'll give Francie something to post about. A lot :pac:

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:02pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And what we have to assess as an electorate is, did Casey's intervention make resolution of that, better or worse?

Clearly as it isn't resolved the suspicion is that negative, finger-pointing publicity hasn't helped.

So you think it was caseys job - responsibility to resolve the issue?

is_that_so · 12-04-2019 2:03pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

One thing he has done is bring back to the forefront of my mind all the issues that are important to me. Local elections are coming up shortly and all those knocking on my door looking for my vote better have some answers to
how they would deal with an issue like the houses in Tipperary that are still vacant.

How will they deal with anti social behaviour in the area.

What incentives do they propose to regenerate towns that have still to recover from the crash and how do they intend to turn those ideas into reality.

How many housing developments whose bonds were always in place are still to be taken over and what timescale will they commit to for their taking in charge.

Do they know how much is owed to the council from rent arrears and how do they intend recouping it.

How much local property tax do they think I should be paying for my home.

You're confusing the council, i.e. the body responsible for most of this with the shower of wasters i.e. councillors, who vote on things.

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 2:06pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

So you think it was caseys job - responsibility to resolve the issue?

No. I asked did his intervention make resolution 'easier or harder'.

Mind you if he wasn't so full of entitlement and coveted the top job all the time, and actually got some experience trying to resolve similar issues, he might have been more constructive in his approach.

is_that_so · 12-04-2019 2:08pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Casey came up with something me good points that people believe in before the Presidential election.
Thing is the man seems pretty old at 61, we need somebody younger and smoother to take up his mantra and bring it to the next level.

It was a safe bet to "protest" through Casey knowing that he would never end up president in a one horse race. Most of his points he made up on the spot or stumbled across, especially the one that seem to carry him over 20%.

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:13pm

Grayson wrote: »

Put the spotlight on it? No-one was talking about it before?

Not dysfunctionality within the traveller community, all we got from media was how much injustice they face

MrMusician18 · 12-04-2019 2:18pm

He won't do well.

His major problem is that he is completely incoherent.

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:19pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No. I asked did his intervention make resolution 'easier or harder'.

Mind you if he wasn't so full of entitlement and coveted the top job all the time, and actually got some experience trying to resolve similar issues, he might have been more constructive in his approach.

It's not relevant whether caseys intervention " made resolution easier or harder", it's a bogus question

" entitlement", unfortunate term to use here, seems it is fine from travellers, why have you a problem with casey showing entitlement? , Michael D is fairly handy himself in that department

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 2:21pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

It's not relevant whether caseys intervention " made resolution easier or harder"

" entitlement", unfortunate term to use here, seems it is fine from travellers, why have you a problem with casey showing entitlement? , Michael D is fairly handy himself in that department

We are discussing 'Casey'.

Seems no matter what criticism you have of Peter, the stock answer is 'sure, look over there at someone else'.

:rolleyes:

Ursus Horribilis · 12-04-2019 2:22pm

He was in the right place at the right time during the presidential election. If one of the other candidates had said the same thing he had, they would've had that bounce. He was a vehicle for people to express their anger and frustration at the travellers issue in this country. A vote for Peter Casey at that moment in time was a way of sending a message.

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:23pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

He won't do well.

His major problem is that he is completely incoherent.

He is but so is Danny healy rae, people are not too bothered about that

I won't be voting for him but he did the country a favour last October by exposing just how intolerant the media tribe are in this country if you chose not to parrot the aprooved narative re_ particular pet minorities

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:24pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We are discussing 'Casey'.

Seems no matter what criticism you have of Peter, the stock answer is 'sure, look over there at someone else'.

:rolleyes:

You accused him of being " entitled"

In a thread largely about travellers refusing to take new homes

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 2:26pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

You accused him of being " entitled"

In a thread largely about travellers refusing to take new homes

And?

12-04-2019 2:34pm

is_that_so wrote: »

You're confusing the council, i.e. the body responsible for most of this with the shower of wasters i.e. councillors, who vote on things.

Are you telling me that councillors and MEPs are much of a muchness then?
So what sort of things do they vote on?

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And?

Irony

FrancieBrady · 12-04-2019 2:38pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Irony

How?

Does the possibility of several different types of entitlement elude you?

There is entitlement among those who avail of welfare, and there is also entitlement among wealthy elites.

tayto lover · 12-04-2019 2:49pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Just coincidence that all who happily moan/complain about travellers just happened to jump on his bandwagon eh?

I said he only got 23% because he didn't commit. Needed the bang the anti-immigration, anti-dole & anti-gay/trans drums to win. It was publicity stunt he never got cranky enough.

Made me a nice little packet in the bookies when he defied many people’s odds to be second. I’m grateful to him for that even if he isn’t a politician (he told the truth) and is unlikely to be elected anytime soon.

is_that_so · 12-04-2019 2:57pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Are you telling me that councillors and MEPs are much of a muchness then?
So what sort of things do they vote on?

Councillors are supposed to vote on budgets, general policies and changes to bye laws. The council admin is supposed to implement them and deal with day to day activities. The CEO(County Manager) is the real power in any council area.

MEPs on the, other hand, vote on EU legislation and choose and vet EU Commissioners.

Mad_maxx · 12-04-2019 2:59pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How?

Does the possibility of several different types of entitlement elude you?

There is entitlement among those who avail of welfare, and there is also entitlement among wealthy elites.

Travellers are thee most entitled people in the land yet in a discussion about travellers, you allege casey is the entitled one

Ursus Horribilis · 12-04-2019 3:02pm

Going on about the other entitled people in this county is a deflection. Everyone knows there is a culture of entitlement amongst other groups but that's not what this is about. Surely we can talk about travellers without muddying the issue?

ollkiller · 12-04-2019 3:06pm

Ya see i would have no problem with him bringing up a discussion on various things but you can raise an issue with tarring the whole community with the same brush. Is there a problem with criminality in the travelling community. Compared to the settled community it's plain to see that there is due to higher rates of offences when comparing the two. How do you fix that. First is enact the law where all kids have to stay in school until 16. Education is key. And other things can be done as well. With representatives of both communities.

But Peter Casey dosen't do this. He's just another idiot without solutions saying populist bull****. And maybe it's just me but i'd rather a public representative can string a sentence together. He's woeful at public speaking.

Peter Casey to contest the European elections

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