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The 2020 U.S. Election Irregularities.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So you have no evidence that Trump even knows about the great reset other than an alleged letter, but claim he is "considered to be the final bulwark against the Great Reset."

    I didn't say he was the final bulwark. I said that in the eyes of millions he is. A number of public commentators have suggested the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    So you have no evidence that Trump even knows about the great reset other than an alleged letter, but claim he is "considered to be the final bulwark against the Great Reset."

    I think you’ve taken Gortanna up wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That's what many believe, including John Waters, for example: "The final impediment between the Combine and their ambition of enslaving the working population of the world was Donald J. Trump."

    "‘Combine’ was the word used by Chief Bromden in Ken Kesey’s novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest; he used it to describe the force, a kind of evil syndicate, that bears down on humanity, seeking to oppress and re-set its behaviour."

    So if people believe that then it's not surprising that they would hold out hope. I was trying to offer an answer to a question posed by another poster.

    quoting john waters? bloody hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I don't think they're lying..

    So not sooner than the Biden apologists will get sick of defending him..

    So know, how you said you weren't ignoring or afraid of my questions...?

    How come you ignored my questions cause it sure looks like you're afraid of addressing them. Most likely because you can't answer them honestly without exposing how weak your beliefs are.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    King Mob wrote: »
    So know, how you said you weren't ignoring or afraid of my questions...?

    How come you ignored my questions cause it sure looks like you're afraid of addressing them. Most likely because you can't answer them honestly without exposing how weak your beliefs are.

    "Exposing how "weak" my "beliefs" are?"..
    Is this a question of beliefs for you?..

    Answer me this.. Would it make a blind bit of difference?..

    What would have to happen to cause you to turn around and go "hang on a minute, yeah, that is weird.."

    You've been fairly certain since the day after the election that it was the most bestest election ever and that there was no question whatsoever around any of the mail in ballots being any bit dodgy and the vote spikes were down to mail in ballots until they were a mistake and there was no possibility of any fraud at all and Joey B is the most popular politician in American history..

    You seem so sure of it..
    I don't think I'd get anywhere..

    I'll leave you to your "beliefs"..

    Let's just say the election was "fortified"..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You should start watching info wars and educate yourself..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    You should start watching info wars and educate yourself..

    I understand the individual words but as a sentence that makes no sense. It does explain a LOT though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You should start watching info wars and educate yourself..

    A conspiracy site is your preferred news source? One that has claimed for years that fema were plotting to kill off the populous?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    "Exposing how "weak" my "beliefs" are?"..
    Is this a question of beliefs for you?..

    Answer me this.. Would it make a blind bit of difference?..
    Yes. Your beliefs aren't actually supported by facts and reality and rely entirely on crap you've swallowed from conspiracy cranks on youtube and twitter.
    You don't want to face this as you know that your beliefs can't stand up to a little questioning.
    What would have to happen to cause you to turn around and go "hang on a minute, yeah, that is weird.."
    Direct rational answers to my questions for one.
    You've been fairly certain since the day after the election that it was the most bestest election ever and that there was no question whatsoever around any of the mail in ballots being any bit dodgy and the vote spikes were down to mail in ballots until they were a mistake and there was no possibility of any fraud at all and Joey B is the most popular politician in American history..
    But whenever I ask you about these dodgy things you quickly run away and start ignoring points you can't answer.
    Why would I be convinced by this?
    Let's just say the election was "fortified"..
    No, you should stop making false claims about history that you can't support with evidence.
    I don't feel the need to compromise with flat earthers either and say the world "is flatish".


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But like, there was the visual evidence..the turnout of people.. there was the weird censorship of certain stories..the fact that Biden didn't leave the house for most of his "campaign"..

    And time magazine said the election was "fortified".. not me..

    Look, a lot of people wanted Trump to lose.. CNN and the likes had it drummed into them.. It doesn't have much bearing on our lives seeing as it's another country..
    If you think old Joe won fair enough..
    A lot of people don't..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And the infowars line was me just being hilarious too..

    I probably have to clarify that..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But like, there was the visual evidence..the turnout of people.. there was the weird censorship of certain stories..the fact that Biden didn't leave the house for most of his "campaign"..

    And time magazine said the election was "fortified".. not me..

    Look, a lot of people wanted Trump to lose.. CNN and the likes had it drummed into them.. It doesn't have much bearing on our lives seeing as it's another country..
    If you think old Joe won fair enough..
    A lot of people don't..

    Can you show where that time magazine showed anything illegal or even questionable for that matter... The visual evidence of what? The Biden campaign avoided proper rallies due to a global pandemic, it was literally invite only. Large scale postal voting was expected and occurred.

    The censorship of stories was simply no publications or news outlets including Fox giving much credibility to a story that relied on data that Rudy Giuliani was only willing to share screenshots of...

    I've got a largely American family so seeing Trump gone was something I'm rather happy to see tbh. And he lost in a fairly executed election in spite of Trump's best efforts to influence including trying to mess with the postal service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    But like, there was the visual evidence..the turnout of people.. there was the weird censorship of certain stories..the fact that Biden didn't leave the house for most of his "campaign"..
    But when you're asked to elaborate and back up these claims, you run away.
    It's happened every time so far.
    You run away because you know that if you look into these claims beyond a surface level or beyond what you're told on infowars/twitter/bitchute/by the old racist crank shouting through a bullhorn, they fall apart.
    And time magazine said the election was "fortified".. not me..
    Ok. So what does that mean to you?
    What did Time say about and around that quote?

    Are you just taking this one single word out of context to make it sound like Time supports your conspiracy theory when they don't?

    Cause here's what they say:
    https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
    That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

    Now, if you believe that there was anything in that article that you found to be illegal or objectionable, point it out.
    But I suspect that you haven't actually read the article in full beyond that one quote and you are just parroting the snippets you were shown on the conspiracy source of your choice.
    And I suspect that you will also ignore this question because you can't answer it.
    Look, a lot of people wanted Trump to lose.. CNN and the likes had it drummed into them.. It doesn't have much bearing on our lives seeing as it's another country..
    Ok. So detail this.
    Who was involved in the conspiracy?

    According to you, all the judges who looked at Trump's various lawsuits all did so unfairly and without reason.
    So does this mean they all were part of the conspiracy? Trump appointees included?
    If you think old Joe won fair enough..
    A lot of people don't..
    A lot of people think the world is flat.
    A lot of people think we didn't go to the moon.
    A lot of people think Trump is still secretly the president.

    A lot of people believe a lot of dumb stuff.
    Number of believers don't make it more true.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A lot of people believe a senile Joe Biden is the most popular politician in American history..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    A lot of people believe a senile Joe Biden is the most popular politician in American history..
    Yes, people believe that Joe Biden is the most popular candidate.
    This is because this is what is supported by evidence.
    Your claims of fraud and that he is senile are not supported by evidence.

    You're running away from difficult points again, and now you're just repeating cliches.

    Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    You should start watching info wars and educate yourself..

    and dont forget to buy the products.......................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    A lot of people don't..

    "Many people are saying ......":rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    A lot of people believe a senile Joe Biden is the most popular politician in American history..

    see https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

    Biden's already got a much higher approval rating that Donald Trump ever achieved, in his whole 4 years!

    Scroll down that page and see how Donald Trump compared to all the prev presidents, no so impressive!

    Yet Trump claimed he won by a landslide!!!
    And you seem to believe that?
    Your loyalty is commendable, but at some point it becomes time to face up to facts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    A lot of people believe Joe Biden is the most popular politician in America..

    Yeah. At least 81,268,924 of them.


    A lot of people dont realise that the population of America has risen quite a lot over the years. He got the most votes ever but not the biggest percentage of the vote ever.



    In decades to come , if the population keeps rising someone will get 100m votes. Imagine that.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    PintOfView wrote: »
    see https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

    Biden's already got a much higher approval rating that Donald Trump ever achieved, in his whole 4 years!

    Scroll down that page and see how Donald Trump compared to all the prev presidents, no so impressive!

    Yet Trump claimed he won by a landslide!!!
    And you seem to believe that?
    Your loyalty is commendable, but at some point it becomes time to face up to facts!
    Remember also that in Trump's previous "landslide" victory he also wasn't the most popular candidate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    A lot of people believe a senile Joe Biden is the most popular politician in American history..

    When all else fails throw this shìte out because you have no argument left :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    But like, there was the visual evidence..the turnout of people.. there was the weird censorship of certain stories..the fact that Biden didn't leave the house for most of his "campaign"..

    There is no credible evidence whatsoever.

    If a leader anywhere, falsely tells his supporters there was fraud, those supporters will "find" it everywhere. Every van, every action in election offices, every situation suddenly becomes "suspicious".

    As much as supporters have tried to breed rumours, create speculation, come up with all sorts of stories, none of them have any substance in relation to systematic election fraud.

    In a less robust system that type of maneuver by Trump could have paid off. As it was, it did significant damage.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's like talking to the Borg..

    Definite cult like behaviour..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's like talking to the Borg..

    Definite cult like behaviour..
    Try answering direct questions rather than ignoring them and running away. it's actually quite simple.

    But we all know why you can't directly address the points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    It's like talking to the Borg..

    Definite cult like behaviour..

    If you keep repeating 2+2=6 and everyone corrects you saying actually it’s 4, that’s not Borg or hive mind behaviour, it’s simply stating a fact that you seem unable or unwilling to acknowledge.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm only mad to answer questions but they cut the feed..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I'm only mad to answer questions but they cut the feed..
    You've stopped making sense.

    Could you at least explain why you are ignoring the points?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    It's like talking to the Borg..

    Definite cult like behaviour..
    It's definitely those who don't think the election was rigged in Biden's favour that are exhibiting cult like behaviour icon14.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    It's definitely those who don't think the election was rigged in Biden's favour that are exhibiting cult like behaviour icon14.png

    I am open to any real evidence posted. I don’t care who won. The whole run up to the election was comical. Trumps 4 years were comical too as he is clearly not statesman like. I don’t have much interest in US politics apart from disinformation, lies etc. They need to be corrected. So show me the evidence that the whole republican movement couldn’t produce in dozens of court cases.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've stopped making sense.

    Could you at least explain why you are ignoring the points?

    That was reference to Joe's feed being cut when he wanted to answer questions the other day..

    As I said.. you were convinced beyond doubt the day after the election there was no fraud..
    Look, at the time there were lots of anomalies..The 6th ensured they weren't looked at..

    It will be whitewashed, because, like, people can't realise a coup took place in the most powerful country in the world..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    A coup, Jesus wept this has to be a wind up nobody could really be this gullible. Then has the neck to claim others are acting like they are in a cult. Lads you’re wasting your time, nobody this far gone wants to hear reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    That was reference to Joe's feed being cut when he wanted to answer questions the other day..
    Yea. You're still not making sense. You're throwing out new random topics to distract from the questions and points you're desperate to avoid.
    Look, at the time there were lots of anomalies.
    What anomalies?
    You keep claiming this, but you can't substantiate it and you keep running away.
    It's gotten to the point that it's very obvious you can't point to any anomalies that actually state up to any scrutiny.
    It will be whitewashed, because, like, people can't realise a coup took place in the most powerful country in the world..
    But a coup hasn't taken place.
    It's a conspiracy theory with no backing perpetuated by a con man and those to enable him.
    You've obviously fallen for this even though you know it's not true.

    Why do you still believe this when you know you have to keep dodging points and questions?
    How do you justify this dishonesty to yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    salmocab wrote: »
    Lads you’re wasting your time, nobody this far gone wants to hear reason.
    Oh, we know. But the more he dodges and cowers away from basic questions, the worse he and his position looks.

    I'm sure if this was someone else, he'd be telling us this was a psy op designed to make the real believers look foolish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's like talking to the Borg..

    Definite cult like behaviour..

    You aren't addressing any of the points, no one in this thread has presented any proper evidence of systemic fraud.

    All that's left is what you are doing now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Look, at the time there were lots of anomalies

    Okay, take the strongest anomaly and show how it demonstrates systemic electoral fraud in the 2020 election.

    If that can't be done, then what's to discuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    A couple of simple questions in a hypothetical situation to those who think the election was rigged:

    It's 2024, Biden has lost the US election and accuses the opposition party of gross electoral fraud. Every one of the 50 anomalies that Biden's team presents to the courts is tossed out of Republican, Democrat and bi-partisan judges due to lack of evidence. If there's no evidence of something, then how can it be demonstrated it occurred?

    How do we know that the politician in question simply isn't playing games because he refuses to accept he lost the election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    That was reference to Joe's feed being cut when he wanted to answer questions the other day..

    As I said.. you were convinced beyond doubt the day after the election there was no fraud..
    Look, at the time there were lots of anomalies..The 6th ensured they weren't looked at..

    It will be whitewashed, because, like, people can't realise a coup took place in the most powerful country in the world..

    Are you really this misinformed? Maybe do a Little research and you will discover that his feed was not "cut", I swear to god some of the Trump zealots on these threads have absolutely no clue what they are talking about and will repeat any/all claims made against Biden without doing the most basic research.

    Embarrassing to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    But like, there was the visual evidence..the turnout of people.. there was the weird censorship of certain stories..the fact that Biden didn't leave the house for most of his "campaign"..

    And time magazine said the election was "fortified".. not me..

    Look, a lot of people wanted Trump to lose.. CNN and the likes had it drummed into them.. It doesn't have much bearing on our lives seeing as it's another country..
    If you think old Joe won fair enough..
    A lot of people don't..

    "A lot of people are saying" That sounds very familiar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've stopped making sense.

    Could you at least explain why you are ignoring the points?

    that would imply they started at some point.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    that would they started at some point.

    Can I just point out that this post doesn't make sense..

    Not my fault if ye didn't get the reference..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Can I just point out that this post doesn't make sense..

    Not my fault if ye didn't get the reference..

    I wasn't responding to your post so your reference is irrelevant.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can I just point out that this post doesn't make sense..

    Not my fault if ye didn't get the reference..
    So what's your best proof of systemic fraud deciding the election result? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Posters in this thread have kept claiming there are anomalies. Great, pick the strongest case that there was gross election fraud and present it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Can I just point out that this post doesn't make sense..

    Not my fault if ye didn't get the reference..

    Weird that you take issue with this and feel the need to respond. Yet at the same time, you've no issue with the dozens of points and questions you're ignoring.

    We understand that you're not going to answer them.
    We all understand the reason you're not going to answer them.

    So just level with us, why do you believe all of this crap when you know you can't defend it?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've listed out the reasons a couple of times..and like..I lived through it in real time..I saw what the media treated 'he whose name shall not be mentioned' over the last few years..I saw the campaigns..well, I didn't see much of Biden, but I would have, were it not for him calling it a day before starting most days..and saw how everything was explained away..I saw the vote numbers go down and spike..

    Look, does it really matter now?..The phenomenon that is Joey B won..I personally think it was the Cardi B interview that swung it for him..yeah, he was sworn in at 11 minutes to 12 instead of 12 in a capital under military occupation, and ruled by decree for the first few weeks..but shur that might ease up now..

    I saw the censorship..and how it was deemed appropriate by many..
    Look, yeah, just keep telling yourselves it was a fair election..


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


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    XOs are ruling by decree but it was fine when Trump did it.

    "I'm not saying I agree with this conspiracy but..." I'm just going to mention a couple of points from it while still claiming that I'm not buying into the nonsense.

    Biden was hiding during the campaign apparently. But also he did a bunch of events that no-one "showed up" to (ignoring that they discouraged people from showing up).

    When people protested against Trump they were all basically terrorists. When actual terrorists storm the Capitol and necessitate a military safeguard well that's proof that the protestors were correct.

    **** me the nonsense is just endless.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah would you come on..
    Like, when you hear the phrase 'taking a lid..' what do you think of..
    Were you aware of that phrase last year?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah would you come on..
    Like, when you hear the phrase 'taking a lid..' what do you think of..
    Were you aware of that phrase last year?

    I don't believe I've ever heard that phrase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I've listed out the reasons a couple of times.
    No, you haven't. You made vague claims and when you were asked to substaniate them or explain them beyond a surface level, you couldn't. And rather than just admit that, you ran away.
    I saw the vote numbers go down and spike..
    Ok. Which numbers specifically. How do these numbers indicate that it was fraud?
    Look, does it really matter now?..
    If it doesn't matter, why are you still making false claims that it was fraudulent?
    Look, yeah, just keep telling yourselves it was a fair election..
    It was. We will also keep telling ourselves the world isn't flat.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have no idea what the "taking a lid" thing is supposed to be about or imply.
    I've heard "Lift the lid" and "blow the lid off", but "a" lid makes me think of eating a yoghurt.


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