Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 MOD NOTE POST 1*

peakedatU12 · 30-05-2018 8:51am

RayVaughan1984 wrote: »

Daithi Burke should really have got a straight red.He has form,ripping off Bonners helmet a few years ago.And Ref bottled it massively by failing to book McInerney.
Leahy certainly should start.

100% agree with this. If a deliberate full frontal, take-out charge is not a straight red .. what is the point of referees. There has to be a deterrent to protect players who are playing the type of hurling we all want to see. Instead there is praise and a sneaking regard for this sort of stuff. All fine till someone ends up with a serious neck or head injury. KK have been as guilty in the past.

Hawkeye6 · 30-05-2018 10:34am

Now that there is a break in the inter-county action and we are half way through the provincial section, I thought I’d stir the juices by bringing up that thorny subject of the Club Scene!! How are the various clubs dealing with the break? There was a good few football games last week, but it is quiet enough this week and I hear very little complaints. I also note that the CPA are noticeable by their silence during this period. Maybe the survey fillers might fill us in on what is happening at this time. I never did get an estimate on what people thought is a reasonable amount of “meaningful” games or what the CPA has planned for a Kilkenny solution. Have all the vocal club players left the country for the summer already?

babyjesus14 · 30-05-2018 1:09pm

peakedatU12 wrote: »

100% agree with this. If a deliberate full frontal, take-out charge is not a straight red .. what is the point of referees. There has to be a deterrent to protect players who are playing the type of hurling we all want to see. Instead there is praise and a sneaking regard for this sort of stuff. All fine till someone ends up with a serious neck or head injury. KK have been as guilty in the past.

Before the Championship the referees were given a directive that reckless and/or dangerous tackles around the head or neck were to be punishable with a red card with specific mention been made to the frontal charge.

In our three championship games so far there's been two incidents where Kilkenny players were the victims of frontal charges Liam Rushe on Paddy Deeegan (though Rushe could claim extenuating circumstances in that Deegan turned into him with his head down) and Burke on Scanlon (no such excuses he had him lined up from 20 yards away). The first resulted in no card and the second a yellow. Kevin Moran got a red for the exact same type of challenge on Tony Kelly last Sunday. Tis enough to make you paranoid!

minty81 · 30-05-2018 1:14pm

My team for Wex:
Murphy
P Murphy Walsh Deegan
Delaney Buckley Morrissey
Maher Fogarty
Leahy Wally Tj
Scanlon Fennelly Donnelly

I think have Wally in the centre to create a bit more space for Tj.
Fennelly cleaned Ryan last year at 14

Grats · 30-05-2018 1:54pm

minty81 wrote: »

My team for Wex:
Murphy
P Murphy Walsh Deegan
Delaney Buckley Morrissey
Maher Fogarty
Leahy Wally Tj
Scanlon Fennelly Donnelly

I think have Wally in the centre to create a bit more space for Tj.
Fennelly cleaned Ryan last year at 14

Is that what you'd like to see or what you think it might be? The reason I ask is that P Walsh and Buckley haven't performed to their high standard yet in the championship and I wonder, as mentioned by other posters, if they should be reverted to their best positions.

In my previous post I said I'd like to have Leahy started but he hasn't set the championship alight thus far.

Village87 · 30-05-2018 2:03pm

Grats wrote: »

Is that what you'd like to see or what you think it might be? The reason I ask is that P Walsh and Buckley haven't performed to their high standard yet in the championship and I wonder, as mentioned by other posters, if they should be reverted to their best positions.

In my previous post I said I'd like to have Leahy started but he hasn't set the championship alight thus far.

Kilkennys best performance of the year was against Tipperary in the League final. Richie Leahy & James Maher ran the show there. Get them out midfield, loads of hurling & mobility.

Grats · 30-05-2018 2:15pm

Village87 wrote: »

Kilkennys best performance of the year was against Tipperary in the League final. Richie Leahy & James Maher ran the show there. Get them out midfield, loads of hurling & mobility.

It's clear that a lot of the players who showed up well in the League have lost form so far in the championship. I'm prepared to give Leahy the benefit of the doubt but he has been well off form since the league. Others deserve the same opportunity.

What starting 15 would you like to see the next day?

savannahkat · 30-05-2018 4:13pm

As SteJer said the following 7 in the back
Eoin Murphy
Paul Murphy
Conor Delaney
Paddy Deegan
Padraig Walsh
Jason Cleere
Cillian Buckley
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After that [/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maher Leahy[/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Reid Walsh Donnelly[/font]
Blanchfield Fennelly Scanlan

savannahkat · 30-05-2018 4:13pm

As SteJer said the following 7 in the back
Eoin Murphy
Paul Murphy
Conor Delaney
Paddy Deegan
Padraig Walsh
Jason Cleere
Cillian Buckley
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After that [/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maher Leahy[/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Reid Walsh Donnelly[/font]
Blanchfield Fennelly Scanlan

minty81 · 30-05-2018 4:46pm

Grats wrote: »

minty81 wrote: »

My team for Wex:
Murphy
P Murphy Walsh Deegan
Delaney Buckley Morrissey
Maher Fogarty
Leahy Wally Tj
Scanlon Fennelly Donnelly

I think have Wally in the centre to create a bit more space for Tj.
Fennelly cleaned Ryan last year at 14

Is that what you'd like to see or what you think it might be? The reason I ask is that P Walsh and Buckley haven't performed to their high standard yet in the championship and I wonder, as mentioned by other posters, if they should be reverted to their best positions.

In my previous post I said I'd like to have Leahy started but he hasn't set the championship alight thus far.

A mixture of what I'd like to see and whats realistic. I'd prefer to see Delaney full and Padraig out on wing but thats not going to happen now.

Grats · 30-05-2018 5:28pm

savannahkat wrote: »

As SteJer said the following 7 in the back
Eoin Murphy
Paul Murphy
Conor Delaney
Paddy Deegan
Padraig Walsh
Jason Cleere
Cillian Buckley
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After that [/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maher Leahy[/font]
[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Reid Walsh Donnelly[/font]
Blanchfield Fennelly Scanlan

Not too sure about having Cleere in front of Delaney. Both inexperienced. Perhaps Deegan at 3, Cleere at 6 or Delaney at 3, P Walsh at 6.

brookville · 30-05-2018 5:30pm

The league was the time to be trying full or center back granted cleere was injured but its unlikely we'll see any changes now in those positions.
Murphy has struggled for form at 2 since the 16 final so maybe he needs a change.
Leahys best position is mf but maher has being impressive i could see cody trying to mould leahy into a wing foward eventually but for the moment he had a good league at midfield id like to see him back there but then where do you put fogarty it didnt work last year with him in the half back line.
A fit hogan would give us a big lift if we could get him back for the next match and hopefully we see kevin kelly back in the next few weeks we should be stronger.

Grats · 30-05-2018 5:37pm

In order to avoid confusion when posters are posting a team, I wonder would it make sense to post the team you would like to see. Then nearer to the match we can start guessing what Cody will pick.

minty81 · 30-05-2018 5:55pm

I've noticed alot of posts over the past yeat about Paul Murphys poor form since 2016 All ire. I think its a bit harsh.
Between 2011 and 2016 Murphy in my eyes was the best corner back in the country by a long way.
In 2015 and 2016 he was outstanding and doing the mopping up of 2 men after JJ's retirement and Jackies injuries.
He had a poor final in 16 but not on his own there and the full back line were on a hiding to nothing that day.
He seemed to take a confidence hit after that and wasn't at his usual standards last season. But he was being judged against his usual 8/10 standards.
I think we have to get him back at 2 and if he can get back to the kind of form he's shown consistently over 6/7 years then it will take a huge amount of pressure off Padraig, who unfortunately looks like will be kept at 3 rather than out the field.

Charlie69 · 30-05-2018 8:09pm

minty81 wrote: »

I've noticed alot of posts over the past yeat about Paul Murphys poor form since 2016 All ire. I think its a bit harsh.
Between 2011 and 2016 Murphy in my eyes was the best corner back in the country by a long way.
In 2015 and 2016 he was outstanding and doing the mopping up of 2 men after JJ's retirement and Jackies injuries.
He had a poor final in 16 but not on his own there and the full back line were on a hiding to nothing that day.
He seemed to take a confidence hit after that and wasn't at his usual standards last season. But he was being judged against his usual 8/10 standards.
I think we have to get him back at 2 and if he can get back to the kind of form he's shown consistently over 6/7 years then it will take a huge amount of pressure off Padraig, who unfortunately looks like will be kept at 3 rather than out the field.

I agree totally, I also think he has come in for a lot of unfair criticism. I know he hasn't been operating at his best but his best is very very good.

He's still lightyears ahead of a Conor O'Shea or a Paddy Deegan for that matter. Would definitely put him back in at number 2 as nobody else has been able to nail down a place there anyway.

For what it's worth I would also like to see Padraig back at number 5 (Joey at number 3 for me) but that's not going to happen now.

The_Ghost · 30-05-2018 8:53pm

Team I would like to see against wex:
E Murphy
P Murphy C Delaney P Deegan
P Walsh J Cleere C Buckley
R Leahy J Maher
W Walsh R Hogan TJ
J Donnolly C Fennelly L Scanlon.

Don't think there would be much differnce between Delaney and Walsh at 3 but think Walsh be much better at 5. Leahy would give us speed and abit of directness around the middle and has great hand. Hopefully hogan takes pressure of TJ and I Think Fennelly has speed and power to cause Ryan big problems again.

brookville · 30-05-2018 8:59pm

We'd all like to see padraig and buckley on the half back line but i think cody had his mind set on padraig at 3 and thats that.Personally i would of threw delaney in at 3 in the league final and see how he got on with forde.He was 3 years at u21 full back.
Theres no doubt padraig struggles with big men and although conor cooney got 4 points last sunday a few came late in the match when the heads were down and padraig and deegan i thought done ok.
Our fowards will have to up it the next day colin after being used effectively as a sub was quite but he has a habit of blowing hot and cold but he'll hopefully start against wexford.
My team for wexford
Murphy
Holden,walsh,deegan
Delaney,buckley,murphy
maher,fogarty
wally,tj,leahy
donnelly,colin,scanlon
Hopefully hogan will be near the team and aylward and cleere is recovered from injury

JJs Left Hand · 30-05-2018 9:36pm

Putting Delaney in at full back in his first year of senior hurling would be a disaster. Let him establish himself as an inter county player and then move him back. You could ruin him putting him straight back. Our defensive issues are not entirely based on individuals its more a systems failure. The distance between our half and full back line is too big. This wasn't as big an issue in the league as Bucks sat deep. Against Dublin he was forced to mark Keaney and last Sunday he marked Joe who drifts out into the middle leaving acres behind him. Our other big issues are just dealing with big men with small players. Rushe and Cooney are immense in the air and have the height on PW. Cooney has the hurling to back it up whereas Rushe just turned and charged similar to Conor Whelan at the weekend. Nothing a defender can do there except pray the ref goes your way more often than not. More of a concern last Sunday was our inability to be anywhere near a breaking ball. But ultimately Galway are a better team than us so its natural they'd win more ball than us.

I say stick to what we're doing and allow the team to develop. If we keep changing we'll achieve nothing.

Garyp88 · 30-05-2018 9:47pm

Are we being a little harsh on the lads no one expected us to be anywhere near given the young lads and rebuilding. The league was a bonus. Was it more we made Galway look good? We didn't turn up 1-2 from play is poor but we can't win every game and the lads will learn from this. Its not very often kilkenny have failures in scoring like that often so a bad day at the office. The pitch was very poor and they should have been down to 14 at least. I don't think we can play much worse so onwards and upwards let's support the lads

oconnol1 · 30-05-2018 11:37pm

Garyp88 wrote: »

Are we being a little harsh on the lads no one expected us to be anywhere near given the young lads and rebuilding. The league was a bonus. Was it more we made Galway look good? We didn't turn up 1-2 from play is poor but we can't win every game and the lads will learn from this. Its not very often kilkenny have failures in scoring like that often so a bad day at the office. The pitch was very poor and they should have been down to 14 at least. I don't think we can play much worse so onwards and upwards let's support the lads

I agree totally, let’s fill Nolan park on Saturday week and support this KK team and drive them on to a Leinster final. Up the black and amber.

droppingball · 30-05-2018 11:55pm

This year wexford have become far more expansive and diarmaid o keefe and paudie foley have been going forward from wing back. They.have been adding a few scores between them and it gives them an outlet that teams aren't used to dealing with.

I think wexford game plan will be to man mark tj and walter and mark the other forwards based on best match ups.

So I would put tj and walter at half forward for three reasons

1. It could drag there designated marker which could be Liam Ryan or Matthew Hanlon out of position.

2. This could leave a smaller back in a central position and it would possibly mean o keefe might end up centre back or corner back which restrict his attacking or means if he is attacking from centre back that he is running into traffic.

3. Even If the wexford backs hold there position, Foley and o keefe won't bomb on as much with Walter and tj to worry about

I would start Colin at full as he had a field day against them last yr and I would leave him and Scanlon inside with donnelly centre forward and blanchfield dropping from full line to cover sweeper. Blanchfield would have to do loads of work and cover ground to do this job.hopefully then Richie could come in for donnelly or blanchfield if fit.

I would play Leahy and Maher midfield and get them looking for short ball of whoever our spare defender is most likely deegan and work it through channels and hit fennelly and Scanlon with better ball than in galway as with only 5 forwards the backs won't be as pressured as they were in salthill.

greenspurs · 31-05-2018 9:18am

All this talk of moving this player here, or that player there......

Where do these players play for their club ?
For example
Is Padraig a full back for Tullaroan?
Is Maher in midfield for Lachtains ?
Is Leahy a half forward for the Rower ?

Does it matter to Cody where a player plays for the club, if he wants the player playing somewhere else for the county ? Is it taken into consideration I wonder ?

Village87 · 31-05-2018 12:00pm

droppingball wrote: »

This year wexford have become far more expansive and diarmaid o keefe and paudie foley have been going forward from wing back. They.have been adding a few scores between them and it gives them an outlet that teams aren't used to dealing with.

I think wexford game plan will be to man mark tj and walter and mark the other forwards based on best match ups.

So I would put tj and walter at half forward for three reasons

1. It could drag there designated marker which could be Liam Ryan or Matthew Hanlon out of position.

2. This could leave a smaller back in a central position and it would possibly mean o keefe might end up centre back or corner back which restrict his attacking or means if he is attacking from centre back that he is running into traffic.

3. Even If the wexford backs hold there position, Foley and o keefe won't bomb on as much with Walter and tj to worry about

I would start Colin at full as he had a field day against them last yr and I would leave him and Scanlon inside with donnelly centre forward and blanchfield dropping from full line to cover sweeper. Blanchfield would have to do loads of work and cover ground to do this job.hopefully then Richie could come in for donnelly or blanchfield if fit.

I would play Leahy and Maher midfield and get them looking for short ball of whoever our spare defender is most likely deegan and work it through channels and hit fennelly and Scanlon with better ball than in galway as with only 5 forwards the backs won't be as pressured as they were in salthill.

Excellent Post, i agree with everything there, plenty of mobility & hurling there

Grats · 31-05-2018 4:15pm

Village87, I am very interested to know what team you'd like to see line out as you appear to have good knowledge of the players form in the last few years.

Comerman · 31-05-2018 6:04pm

Grats wrote: »

Village87, I am very interested to know what team you'd like to see line out as you appear to have good knowledge of the players form in the last few years.

Conor Fogerty won't make it. ;-)

minty81 · 31-05-2018 6:07pm

When did all this talk come into punditry and analysis of game plans that such and such a player is going to be 'man marked'?
Is that not what backs have been doing for the last 130 years??

brookville · 31-05-2018 6:56pm

droppingball wrote: »

This year wexford have become far more expansive and diarmaid o keefe and paudie foley have been going forward from wing back. They.have been adding a few scores between them and it gives them an outlet that teams aren't used to dealing with.

I think wexford game plan will be to man mark tj and walter and mark the other forwards based on best match ups.

So I would put tj and walter at half forward for three reasons

1. It could drag there designated marker which could be Liam Ryan or Matthew Hanlon out of position.

2. This could leave a smaller back in a central position and it would possibly mean o keefe might end up centre back or corner back which restrict his attacking or means if he is attacking from centre back that he is running into traffic.

3. Even If the wexford backs hold there position, Foley and o keefe won't bomb on as much with Walter and tj to worry about

I would start Colin at full as he had a field day against them last yr and I would leave him and Scanlon inside with donnelly centre forward and blanchfield dropping from full line to cover sweeper. Blanchfield would have to do loads of work and cover ground to do this job.hopefully then Richie could come in for donnelly or blanchfield if fit.

I would play Leahy and Maher midfield and get them looking for short ball of whoever our spare defender is most likely deegan and work it through channels and hit fennelly and Scanlon with better ball than in galway as with only 5 forwards the backs won't be as pressured as they were in salthill.

Both teams are familar with each other after meeting twice last year and already 3 times this year.
Saturday is a huge game id expect wexford to put it up to galway at home but it'll be a big ask for them to recover and get up for another big match against us 7 days later so we definitely have an advantage there.

Cornerback1 · 01-06-2018 1:09am

Any word on Richie Hogan? Anybody think he will start V Wexford or will he get 15mins in the 2nd half?

Also, anybody know how far away is Kevin Kelly from match time?

dastardly00 · 01-06-2018 1:30am

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Any word on Richie Hogan? Anybody think he will start V Wexford or will he get 15mins in the 2nd half?

Also, anybody know how far away is Kevin Kelly from match time?

Regarding Richie, I hope he is given as much time as possible. I don't think there is much point playing him this early in the championship (given that we are pretty much guaranteed at least a quarter final place)

brookville · 01-06-2018 9:53am

kevin kelly is back running anyway hopefully he can get back into the squad soon.
Cleere and aylward would also be welcome additions to the panel.Is richie reid injured?

Village87 · 01-06-2018 11:16am

Grats wrote: »

Village87, I am very interested to know what team you'd like to see line out as you appear to have good knowledge of the players form in the last few years.

As stated here many times before the difference between the teams we pick and the team Brian Cody will pick will vary.

As there has been a lot of matches over the last few months, club matches, national league and a number players coming back from injury the actual chance to earn your place on the team in training must be limited. Im sure there will be couple of games in the lead up to the Wexford match and their are plenty of spots available. These matches must be taking their toll on the guys in their first year, so i predict Brian Cody will go with lads like Colin Fennelly and Riche Hogan v Wexford, who will be fresh and need game time as the big games are close by.

Centre back is a big problem, Kilkenny have tried 3/4 hurlers there so far this year and are robbing Peter to pay Paul by playing Buckley there, he had a good league when teams, being realistic were trying hard alright but not as ruthlessly as they are on the line or the field as championship. Every facade of a players weakness will be highlighted before big games in Championship and Buckleys hurling ability in tight spaces is leaving him down. Having to mark his man and getting nailed every time in possession as he plays Kilkennys sweeper is putting a lot of pressure on him(opposition are all over this). I personally would have him midfield or half back and dictate a game by picking up loose possessions. Centre backs now tend to be strong aggressive men like Georoid Mcinerney, Paidi Maher etc.

My team

Eoin Murphy
Paul Murphy Rob Lennon (a lot of big no.14 around) P Deegan
Delaney Padraig Walsh Buckley
Leahy Maher
TJ Hogan Fennelly(work rate)
Donnelly Walsh Scanlan

Nickindublin · 01-06-2018 1:49pm

I do think if Cody is going to tinker with his FB and CB this is the time to do it. I personally feel that we have struggled badly in the forwards due to a poor half back line. The ball going in to the forwards has being poor. Now the forward lines are not as good as years ago but you have to give them good ball. Delaney is now after having a good run in the league and championship so I think it’s time to put him in FB and see if he can do a job. If I was naming a team I would go like this if players were fit:

Murphy
P Murphy. Delaney. Deegan
P Walsh. Cleere. Buckley
Maher. Hogan
Fennelly. TJ Leahy
Scanlon. W Walsh Donnelly

dubcat51 · 01-06-2018 7:21pm

My team
Murphy
Murphy
Delaney
Deegan
Padraig
Cleere
Buckley
Maher
Leahy
Richie
Tj
Colin
Sxanlon
Waltee
Awlyard

blackcard · 02-06-2018 6:54pm

So winner of KK v Wexford through to the Leinster Final, loser plays McDonagh team. Should get another two games after that match. Experience for a lot of the younger players which hopefully will stand to them next year.

Cornerback1 · 02-06-2018 7:03pm

blackcard wrote: »

So winner of KK v Wexford through to the Leinster Final, loser plays McDonagh team. Should get another two games after that match. Experience for a lot of the younger players which hopefully will stand to them next year.

I think Wexford looked very jaded. From the first whistle, they were very sluggish. It suits us that we have a 2 weeks break - we should be fresher and we're at home also.

One anther note, it's hard to know - may be easier to go through as third placed team. Time will tell!

usualstripes · 02-06-2018 7:26pm

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I think Wexford looked very jaded. From the first whistle, they were very sluggish. It suits us that we have a 2 weeks break - we should be fresher and we're at home also.

One anther note, it's hard to know - may be easier to go through as third placed team. Time will tell!

Maybe true that it could be easier going through as the 3rd team but I've no doubt our lads would love to have a crack at galway in the leinster final. The more games like this they get the better albeit with a bit of a break in between.

citykat · 02-06-2018 7:36pm

Cornerback1 wrote: »

blackcard wrote: »

So winner of KK v Wexford through to the Leinster Final, loser plays McDonagh team. Should get another two games after that match. Experience for a lot of the younger players which hopefully will stand to them next year.

I think Wexford looked very jaded. From the first whistle, they were very sluggish. It suits us that we have a 2 weeks break - we should be fresher and we're at home also.

One anther note, it's hard to know - may be easier to go through as third placed team. Time will tell!

If we cant beat that Wexford team at home, the CB should pull Kilkenny out of the championship

Powerhouse · 02-06-2018 7:49pm

usualstripes wrote: »

Maybe true that it could be easier going through as the 3rd team but I've no doubt our lads would love to have a crack at galway in the leinster final. The more games like this they get the better albeit with a bit of a break in between.

I'd say this works both ways. Galway will be hoping for Kilkenny in the final. Will be interesting to see the Kilkenny response to the game in Salthill when the meet in the Leinster Final.

Garyp88 · 02-06-2018 7:52pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

usualstripes wrote: »

Maybe true that it could be easier going through as the 3rd team but I've no doubt our lads would love to have a crack at galway in the leinster final. The more games like this they get the better albeit with a bit of a break in between.

I'd say this works both ways. Galway will be hoping for Kilkenny in the final. Will be interesting to see the Kilkenny response to the game in Salthill when the meet in the Leinster Final.

To be honest I don't think we could be much worse than the last day scoring only 1-2 from play

Pigeon Chaser · 02-06-2018 8:00pm

The Munster boys don't bother with defending at all.

I think we would beat any of them, even whilst "rebuilding"

Powerhouse · 02-06-2018 8:04pm

Pigeon Chaser wrote: »

The Munster boys don't bother with defending at all.

I think we would beat any of them, even whilst "rebuilding"

You'd never know. Kilkenny didn't brush Limerick and Waterford aside too easily in last year's championship. Might look easier to beat them that it is.

brookville · 02-06-2018 8:48pm

citykat wrote: »

Cornerback1 wrote: »

blackcard wrote: »

So winner of KK v Wexford through to the Leinster Final, loser plays McDonagh team. Should get another two games after that match. Experience for a lot of the younger players which hopefully will stand to them next year.

I think Wexford looked very jaded. From the first whistle, they were very sluggish. It suits us that we have a 2 weeks break - we should be fresher and we're at home also.

One anther note, it's hard to know - may be easier to go through as third placed team. Time will tell!

If we cant beat that Wexford team at home, the CB should pull Kilkenny out of the championship

look we've a great opportunity next weekend wexford were poor today rory o connor is carring the fowards chin and mcdonald anonymous you'd expect more from them.
the weeks break should help us we cant have any complaints for not winning next weekend i wouldnt be suprised to see hogan and colin starting next weekend that would give our fowards a big boost

Cornerback1 · 02-06-2018 9:13pm

In this years championships, there's no handy games lads! All on the day. Teams are much of a muchness at this stage, apart from Galway who seem a bit ahead.

I definately wouldn't be saying we'll beat this team or that time for sure. Mad statements like we should pull out of chsmpionship (exagg I know) if we can't beat Wexford etc. is a bit mad. KK, Limerick, Tipp, Clare and Cork etc. are all on the same level and a lot of it will be down to small margins on the day.

Hurling has levelled out and the hurling championship is the better for it!

Powerhouse · 02-06-2018 9:29pm

Cornerback1 wrote: »

KK, Limerick, Tipp, Clare and Cork etc. are all on the same level and a lot of it will be down to small margins on the day.

Hurling has levelled out and the hurling championship is the better for it!

There's an argument that the hurling championship has not really "levelled out" and is in fact is no different to what it was 10 years ago, with loads of middling teams and just the identity of the team that's miles ahead is different.

Garyp88 · 02-06-2018 9:33pm

I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. Galway playing well but later on they struggle hence there record of wins. Limerick have a very good panel so do Cork there game tonight was fantastic would be interesting to see either of them against Galway. You can never write kk or tipp off and then you have the inconsistent frustrating teams in clare and Waterford who have some fantastic players.

citykat · 02-06-2018 10:06pm

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I definately wouldn't be saying we'll beat this team or that time for sure. Mad statements like we should pull out of chsmpionship (exagg I know) if we can't beat Wexford etc. is a bit mad. KK, Limerick, Tipp, Clare and Cork etc. are all on the same level and a lot of it will be down to small margins on the day.

I wasnt exaggerating. Wexford are piss poor. If we cant beat them we've no business being in the championship. We'd only get murdered down the line.

dubcat51 · 02-06-2018 11:28pm

Interesting that no team has won playing 3 games in a row.

davidx40 · 02-06-2018 11:49pm

Citycat ... i definitly cant agree wexford are piss poor ....we will see next week ...to me there on much same level as ourselves .....

Hawkeye6 · 03-06-2018 7:47am

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

Now that there is a break in the inter-county action and we are half way through the provincial section, I thought I’d stir the juices by bringing up that thorny subject of the Club Scene!! How are the various clubs dealing with the break? There was a good few football games last week, but it is quiet enough this week and I hear very little complaints. I also note that the CPA are noticeable by their silence during this period. Maybe the survey fillers might fill us in on what is happening at this time. I never did get an estimate on what people thought is a reasonable amount of “meaningful” games or what the CPA has planned for a Kilkenny solution. Have all the vocal club players left the country for the summer already?

So much for interest in the Club.
As HQ would say the club is just intermittent noise that will happen anyway

WhatsGoingOn2 · 03-06-2018 8:13am

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

Now that there is a break in the inter-county action and we are half way through the provincial section, I thought I’d stir the juices by bringing up that thorny subject of the Club Scene!! How are the various clubs dealing with the break? There was a good few football games last week, but it is quiet enough this week and I hear very little complaints. I also note that the CPA are noticeable by their silence during this period. Maybe the survey fillers might fill us in on what is happening at this time. I never did get an estimate on what people thought is a reasonable amount of “meaningful” games or what the CPA has planned for a Kilkenny solution. Have all the vocal club players left the country for the summer already?

Looks Luke they have left. Comer had to go all the way to San Diego for a few games...

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/285897

And most counties trained away through May.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-probe-more-than-half-the-counties-in-ireland-under-investigation-for-training-camp-breaches-36963930.html

The new county structure has produced a few great games, particularly in Munster, so is likely here to stay. Another solution will have to be found for the club player.

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