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    #32
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Capra wrote: »
    Similar to how Britain in the 1980s went full socialist, realised it was idiotic and haven't looked back ever since.

    Britain had a right-wing Government for the entirity of the 1980s.

    They then elected a centre-left Government by an absolute landslide in 1997.


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    #33
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    Who are the good candidates in FF and FG?

    What Ud call Sinead Ryan or paddy Hoolihan even though he’s out already fit candidates to run the country !
    No thks I’ll take the devil we know any day !
    At least the fg/ fg can read and write ! Tbh just looking at the Sinn Fein line up is something like drop outs from school !


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    #34
    votecounts
    Registered Users Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Capra wrote: »
    Indeed. I kind of want Ireland to go fully left wing, if only to realise the total disaster that it is. Similar to how Britain in the 1980s went full socialist, realised it was idiotic and haven't looked back ever since. However when I went to the booth the Sinn Fein candidate had his occupation listed as "writer". To me that's another word for unemployed. Pathetic.
    Who new that Margaret Thatcher was a Socialist, learn new things every day:)


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    #35
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Murder, terrorism, subversion, vigilantism...

    Political wing of the IRA.

    That's not something that goes away. They should condemn the 40 year terror campaign in the north.

    That's why most Irish people want nothing to do with them.
    #


    But the armed struggle was unfortunately entirely nessecary.


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    #36
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So why is there so much weight put into it then ?

    It's usually pretty accurate and there's a massive amount of historic data on transfers that seasoned political heads can make a pretty good prediction of the final outcome based on the exit poll. Not perfect of course but a very good indicator.


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    #37
    Capra
    Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Capra


    L1011 wrote: »
    Britain had a right-wing Government for the entirity of the 1980s.

    They then elected a centre-left Government by an absolute landslide in 1997.

    Typo. Meant 1970s.


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    #38
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Can we keep this to discussing the exit poll, and not the millionth thread on SF?


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    #39
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    It obviously must go away, there must be some time point in your mind where the actions of war are forgiven/forgotten, because you don't hold the same feelings towards FF/FG

    We remember what the PIRA/Sinn Fein did, it's well within living memory, every bombing, every murder, every kidnapping, every kneecapping, every bank job, every post office robbery, never condemned by Sinn Fein, never followed up by Sinn Fein either, many of whom were in or connected to the PIRA.

    So why would we forgive them or vote for them, madness.


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    #40
    1wizards sleeve
    Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    Is it only me. Or are the Irish left SF and the likes. V aggressive in their opinions. Seem to think their opinions and views are always right . And it's almost a crime to vote any different. Quiet similar to the anti Brexit voters .and the democrats and media in the USA.


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    #41
    KevIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 39,498 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Poll will show even higher than expected support for SF. Also that SF transfers will carry a number of left and hard left candidates from other parties over the line.

    Sigh.


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    #42
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    think there will be a silent fg vote

    guessing ff 27 fg 25 sf 20


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    #43
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Odhinn wrote: »
    But the armed struggle was unfortunately entirely nessecary.

    NO IT WAS NOT
    Seamus Mallon.


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    #44
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    We remember what the PIRA/Sinn Fein did, it's well within living memory, every bombing, every murder, every kidnapping, every kneecapping, every bank job, every post office robbery, never condemned by Sinn Fein, never followed up by Sinn Fein either, many of whom were in or connected to the PIRA.

    So why would we forgive them or vote for them, madness.
    It was a war in every sense. They have moved on and you should too.


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    #45
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The 2007, 2011 and 2016 exit polls were pretty much bang on the final outcome with the notable exception that the FF number was underestimated in the exit poll by c.2-3% in 2011 and 2016 relative to the actual outcome. If I recall that difference was put down to shy/embarrassed FF voters in 2011 & 2016 not willing to admit they voted FF to the exit pollsters.


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    #46
    Chiparus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    We remember what the PIRA/Sinn Fein did, it's well within living memory, every bombing, every murder, every kidnapping, every kneecapping, every bank job, every post office robbery, never condemned by Sinn Fein, never followed up by Sinn Fein either, many of whom were in or connected to the PIRA.

    So why would we forgive them or vote for them, madness.

    Are you in you 70s?


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    #47
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    We remember what the PIRA/Sinn Fein did, it's well within living memory, every bombing, every murder, every kidnapping, every kneecapping, every bank job, every post office robbery, never condemned by Sinn Fein, never followed up by Sinn Fein either, many of whom were in or connected to the PIRA.

    So why would we forgive them or vote for them, madness.

    FF and FG did nasty stuff back in the day. FF ministers were gun running in the 70s!


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    #48
    ShylockWept
    Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭ShylockWept


    FYI Folks

    https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/m2Tuz/3/


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    #49
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    It was a war in every sense. They have moved on and you should too.

    It was a Terrorist campaign carried out by the PIRA without he permission of the IRISH people, and most of us will always hate them for that....

    The younger generation have no memory of the Troubles, hence their softer approach to SF.


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    #50
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    It was a war in every sense. They have moved on and you should too.

    Not in every sense. They did not use suicide bombers.


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    #51
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    think there will be a silent fg vote

    guessing ff 27 fg 25 sf 20

    Yeah, I'd be of the same opinion, like how there was a "shy Tory" vote last December. On top of that, I'd say all the hype around SF could light a fire under the collective arses of FG's base, and to cap it off I'm sure they'll be transfer-friendly to FF voters.


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    #52
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    think there will be a silent fg vote

    guessing ff 27 fg 25 sf 20

    I think FG will be closer to 20. Tide has really gone against them.


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    #53
    Lashes28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    I was asked to fill in for the rte exit poll at my station in Drogheda
    Had to fill in my first two preferences
    Would I like to see a referendum to join north and south in the next 5 years
    Did I think FF and FG were wrong to rule out going into government with Sinn Fein.
    And then basic m/f,do I speak Irish in my home,age bracket.

    Was really surprised I've never seen anyone asking before


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    #54
    Class of 82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Class of 82


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It was a Terrorist campaign carried out by the PIRA without he permission of the IRISH people, and most of us will always hate them for that....

    The younger generation have no memory of the Troubles, hence their softer approach to SF.

    Would you agree that FF & FG can trace their history back to republican campaigns that didn't have permission.


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    #55
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users Posts: 15,005 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I got exit polled this afternoon, first time ever.

    They as you to put down your 1st and 2nd preference, so they could take transfers into account on a limited basis.


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    #56
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd be of the same opinion, like how there was a "shy Tory" vote last December. On top of that, I'd say all the hype around SF could light a fire under the collective arses of FG's base, and to cap it off I'm sure they'll be transfer-friendly to FF voters.

    SF have generally undershot pre-election polling by 4-6% due to a reverse of the "shy Tory" problem ("Gobby Shinner" might work as a term, which would probably get you banned on the Politics forums here) but polling firms are always trying to correct for this - so don't assume its actually there in any poll.


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    #57
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It was a Terrorist campaign carried out by the PIRA without he permission of the IRISH people, and most of us will always hate them for that....

    The younger generation have no memory of the Troubles, hence their softer approach to SF.

    What is it they say? One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. When you say Irish people is that just your opinion? Some would argue that it was a civil rights movement. If you didn't live through it it's difficult to judge it too harshly.


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    #58
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    We remember what the PIRA/Sinn Fein did, it's well within living memory, every bombing, every murder, every kidnapping, every kneecapping, every bank job, every post office robbery, never condemned by Sinn Fein, never followed up by Sinn Fein either, many of whom were in or connected to the PIRA.

    So why would we forgive them or vote for them, madness.

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    #59
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It would be a major blow for FF if they do not get back up to somewhere near their traditional number of seats, something over 70. They got 21 in 2011 and 44 last time. For some reason the media made out Micheál to be some sort of genius for getting 44.


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    #60
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It was a Terrorist campaign carried out by the PIRA without he permission of the IRISH people, and most of us will always hate them for that....

    The younger generation have no memory of the Troubles, hence their softer approach to SF.

    The 1916 lads were booed off the streets as well. In all conflicts terrible acts were done. The British and French have forgotten the Germans tried to obliterate them.

    Sorry mods for going off topic. It will be interesting how high SF go. I didn’t vote for them but understand why people did.


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    #61
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    It was a Terrorist campaign carried out by the PIRA without he permission of the IRISH people, and most of us will always hate them for that....

    The younger generation have no memory of the Troubles, hence their softer approach to SF.

    I'm Irish, I supported it and I'm not young. Who are you? What did you live through? What makes you think you speak for the majority of people in the 6 counties?


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