Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

Cyrus · 24-02-2020 4:29pm

micks_address wrote: »

They have been around a while and have a fair bit of positive feedback. Also suggested collection so i wouldn't assume the worst just yet. Still if i was a buyer I'd be concerned. Did you get his phone number? usually i text or talk to people or whatsapp etc just so you at least have talked to them. No guarantee of anything but helps. Generally if they are not online they will get whatsapp messages etc..

Where are you based buyer?

no never got a phone no:rolleyes:

im in dublin, southside

micks_address · 24-02-2020 4:35pm

Cyrus wrote: »

no never got a phone no:rolleyes:

im in dublin, southside

Hmmm spilled milk and all that but I'd always collect in Dublin...

Thirdfox · 24-02-2020 4:39pm

Yeah I always ring and exhange phone numbers with sellers/buyers - if people don't want to do that then alarm bells ring.

Now I'm sure there are eloquent and conscientious scammers out there but at least by doing the ohone number exchange you've potentially filtered out a few more "lazy" scammers.

Cyrus · 24-02-2020 4:48pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hmmm spilled milk and all that but I'd always collect in Dublin...

i never collect if i can avoid it, i generally dont have the time but yeah lesson learned

24-02-2020 5:13pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

even if they posted the phone on friday and it would have arrived today

I've sent many an item domestically on Friday which did not arrive on Monday. I've been on the other side of the fence with people asking why an item hasn't arrived yet. AnPost are not great at the best of times.

The money is gone and at this point it's not really a time-sensitive issue. By that I mean it's not like you'll get your money back if you run to the guards today and you won't if you leave it til tomorrow. With that in mind I don't see any harm in giving it a few days. Jumping straight onto adverts to call him a scammer is not how I would have approached it.

24-02-2020 5:31pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

A few days ? The buyer paid on Wednesday it’s ample time to at least be given a tracking number or some details about when it was posted

I don't disagree. I'm not defending the seller or saying this is a good situation.

I'm just saying there's enough wallies on adverts that I would not conclude yet that this is a scam. There's negative feedback saying this guy is useless at answering messages, there's also positive feedback more recent than that including deliveries. At this point i'd be thinking it's just a useless seller who needs to get the finger out.

I'm also saying there's little to be lost by waiting a few days before concluding that it's a scam. It makes no difference, the money is gone.

Cyrus · 24-02-2020 5:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't disagree. I'm not defending the seller or saying this is a good situation.

I'm just saying there's enough wallies on adverts that I would not conclude yet that this is a scam. There's negative feedback saying this guy is useless at answering messages, there's also positive feedback more recent than that including deliveries. At this point i'd be thinking it's just a useless seller who needs to get the finger out.

I'm also saying there's little to be lost by waiting a few days before concluding that it's a scam. It makes no difference, the money is gone.

true, of course this could all be avoided by a simple pm, then i wouldnt have to jump to that conclusion. he hasnt been in touch since 14.26 on the 19th, thats over 5 days now, there is no excuse for that

25-02-2020 2:28pm

Finally ordered the watch that got me looking at watches again. Should be here in 15-30 days.. Damn thing has to go through an intermediary in America and then over to Vietnam.

I'm so bad when it comes to purchases sometimes. That took months and it's not even because I'm tight. SNXF05. Good thing it's cheap.. Haven't worked in over five weeks.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 4:39pm

on of my colleagues husbands is a guard and he reckons he can get the guys name and address from the bank and he will pay him a visit, interesting to see how it plays out!

banie01 · 25-02-2020 5:08pm

Cyrus wrote: »

on of my colleagues husbands is a guard and he reckons he can get the guys name and address from the bank and he will pay him a visit, interesting to see how it plays out!

Only with a pulse report and a specific report of a crime.
The days of this kinda thing being done as a qt favour are over.

25-02-2020 5:12pm

banie01 wrote: »

Only with a pulse report and a specific report of a crime.
The days of this kinda thing being done as a qt favour are over.

As they should. Don't think anyone should be able to have a guard call round out of the blue because of a private trade that has not yet concluded in a fraud.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 5:17pm

banie01 wrote: »

Only with a pulse report and a specific report of a crime.
The days of this kinda thing being done as a qt favour are over.

he will be getting an official report, itll all be above board. Rather i didnt realise there would be anything they could do.

and its someone that will be interested in doing something about it rather than luck of the draw at a local station.

people shouldnt be able to get away with this sh!t

banie01 · 25-02-2020 5:20pm

Cyrus wrote: »

he will be getting an official report, itll all be above board.

It can't be above board if you have a pre-existing relationship with the investigating guard?
We don't get to pick and choose who handles an investigation, and if suggestions were made as to how to ensure such a thing.
The member in question is wide open to investigation, that would range far further than just the favour.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 5:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As they should. Don't think anyone should be able to have a guard call round out of the blue because of a private trade that has not yet concluded in a fraud.

im not sure what point you are making? the guy advertised goods, took payment for them and didnt send them and has not been in touch since.

thats not a private trade and unless im missing something or the guy fancies getting in touch what other conclusion would you draw?

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 5:28pm

banie01 wrote: »

It can't be above board if you have a pre-existing relationship with the investigating guard?
We don't get to pick and choose who handles an investigation, and if suggestions were made as to how to ensure such a thing.
The member in question is wide open to investigation, that would range far further than just the favour.

Well ill make sure im all above board then, as long as the defrauding pos gets away with it, thats the main thing :rolleyes:

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 5:30pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

i heard from a friend that was scammed buying a watch in the same way and they got their money back after a guard from the fraud department popped around and explained what would happen if the money was not returned

luck of the draw at the local station sucks tbh and having someone with a vested interest involved will help no end, dont forget the guards can ask adverts for the sellers details also im sure
best of luck with it, i cant stand scammers

thanks, me either.

Yes adverts can give the info to the guards once a crime has been reported.

Which it will be.

banie01 · 25-02-2020 5:33pm

Cyrus wrote: »

Well ill make sure im all above board then, as long as the defrauding pos gets away with it, thats the main thing :rolleyes:

100% if you have been defrauded its most important that whoever did is caught

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 5:35pm

banie01 wrote: »

100% if you have been defrauded its most important that whoever did is caught

what do you mean if, i feel like you are implying that i havent been?

banie01 · 25-02-2020 5:54pm

Cyrus wrote: »

what do you mean if, i feel like you are implying that i havent been?

You really are a touch sensitive aren't you?
Maybe I should get my knickers in a bunch and ask what you meant by the rolled eyes?

I hadn't actually given the circumstance of your issue much thought, let alone worry if you actually had been scammed.
But as a quick exercise in heuristics.
You have yet to receive delivery of or communication from whomever has taken payment.
You are of course miffed at that.

However, there could be a myriad of reasons apart from criminal for that.
Injury, theft of phone, illness of seller or family member, other more pressing matters that unfortunately pushed that visit to the post office to the back of the sellers mind.
Or maybe the seller is a dick, maybe he is a criminal.

Maybe he'd even go so far as to mention co-opting Garda influence to seek a speedy resolution?

25-02-2020 5:57pm

Cyrus wrote: »

im not sure what point you are making? the guy advertised goods, took payment for them and didnt send them and has not been in touch since.

thats not a private trade and unless im missing something or the guy fancies getting in touch what other conclusion would you draw?

Not many. But my point is that until you're sure it's a scam, I'd hold off on getting guards you personally know involved. We've all been in situations before where something like a watch sale takes a back seat to another life event.

Another week or two say and then yeah, it's worth throwing whatever you can at it. I just don't see the major difference in chasing now rather than in a week's time.

Then again, I could be wrong. He could be flying out of the country as we speak.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:10pm

banie01 wrote: »

You really are a touch sensitive aren't you?
Maybe I should get my knickers in a bunch and ask what you meant by the rolled eyes?

I hadn't actually given the circumstance of your issue much thought, let alone worry if you actually had been scammed.
But as a quick exercise in heuristics.
You have yet to receive delivery of or communication from whomever has taken payment.
You are of course miffed at that.

However, there could be a myriad of reasons apart from criminal for that.
Injury, theft of phone, illness of seller or family member, other more pressing matters that unfortunately pushed that visit to the post office to the back of the sellers mind.
Or maybe the seller is a dick, maybe he is a criminal.

Maybe he'd even go so far as to mention co-opting Garda influence to seek a speedy resolution?

Im not sensitive, im annoyed, and some smart alec trying to suggest that i am mistaken is annoying me more, ok?

some of those could be considered if he hadnt already said that he had posted the item. I dont give a toss whats happened, unless the lad lied to me and then shortly afterwards came a cropper in some fashion there can be no excuse for not taking 5 seconds to send a message to explain himself.

anyway your last sentence confirms your intention to wind me up so lets leave it that.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:12pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

the listing cant be found on adverts now, has he or she been online ?

no adverts have suspended his account until he resolves the issue.

which is a bit of a pain as i need a screen shot of the ad for the guards.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not many. But my point is that until you're sure it's a scam, I'd hold off on getting guards you personally know involved. We've all been in situations before where something like a watch sale takes a back seat to another life event.

Another week or two say and then yeah, it's worth throwing whatever you can at it. I just don't see the major difference in chasing now rather than in a week's time.

Then again, I could be wrong. He could be flying out of the country as we speak.

if im selling something to someone ill keep in touch regardless, i have sold 10s of thousands of euro worth of watches and never given anyone a moment to worry about receving it.

this case the 350 wont kill me, im just annoyed and people shouldnt get away with it.

he wont be flying off on the strength of the 350 but if he is id rather have it back.

again, the guy already told me he posted it, its not as if im waiting for him to send it.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:15pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

adverts support should be able to sort that out for you

cheers have emailed them

banie01 · 25-02-2020 6:16pm

Cyrus wrote: »

Im not sensitive, im annoyed, and some smart alec trying to suggest that i am mistaken is annoying me more, ok?

some of those could be considered if he hadnt already said that he had posted the item. I dont give a toss whats happened, unless the lad lied to me and then shortly afterwards came a cropper in some fashion there can be no excuse for not taking 5 seconds to send a message to explain himself.

anyway your last sentence confirms your intention to wind me up so lets leave it that.

My last sentence confirms only what you said previously.
If you feel I'm on a wind up, feel free to report me.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:23pm

banie01 wrote: »

My last sentence confirms only what you said previously.
If you feel I'm on a wind up, feel free to report me.

ive told you straight i think you are on the wind up, but given we arent school kids ill just say it to you rather than "tell on you".

banie01 · 25-02-2020 6:32pm

Cyrus wrote: »

ive told you straight i think you are on the wind up, but given we arent school kids ill just say it to you rather than "tell on you".

Like I said earlier, I'm not but you keep going on assuming that I am

As for being schoolkids, for all I know one of us may well be.

Not a bother to me in the slightest.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:41pm

banie01 wrote: »

Like I said earlier, I'm not but you keep going on assuming that I am
As for being schoolkids, for all I know one of us may well be.

Not a bother to me in the slightest.

you claim not to be on the wind up and then have another go

class act.

banie01 · 25-02-2020 6:48pm

Cyrus wrote: »

you claim not to be on the wind up and then have another go

class act.

The only person wound up on here is you.
Understandably so too, in fairness.(at least with regards the possible loss)

It's never a comfortable situation to be left wondering if one has been scammed.

No-one else is, you are projecting whatever you are feeling onto me.
From your initial eye roll, to your complaining about what I'd implied.
Let's be clear, I didn't imply anything but you leaped on your perceived inference.

Then rather acknowledge that you may have knee-jerked, you keep thinking every reply is a further wind up and even called me classy!

I wish I was, unfortunately I use my fork in my right hand

Have a cup of tea, a deep breath, a **** or whatever else you may need to do to calm down.

There's nothing inflammatory or Wumming about anything that's been posted towards you.

If you think there is, well I've explained it as well as can be and if you still feel like ire or wind up is directed towards you?

That's completely your own problem.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 6:51pm

banie01 wrote: »

The only person wound up on here is you.
Understandably so too, in fairness.(at least with regards the possible loss)

It's never a comfortable situation to be left wondering if one has been scammed.

No-one else is, you are projecting whatever you are feeling onto me.
From your initial eye roll, to your complaining about what I'd implied.
Let's be clear, I didn't imply anything but you leaped on your perceived inference.

Then rather acknowledge that you may have knee-jerked, you keep thinking every reply is a further wind up and even called me classy!

I wish I was, unfortunately I use my fork in my right hand

Have a cup of tea, a deep breath, a **** or whatever else you may need to do to calm down.

There's nothing inflammatory or Wumming about anything that's been posted towards you.

If you think there is, well I've explained it as well as can be and if you still feel like ire or wind up is directed towards you?

That's completely your own problem.

im not wondering, im sure of it, as ive stated a number of times, you are the one intent on making excuses for the scammer.

In your last post you made the inference that one of us might be a school kid, given that you should know if you yourself are the inference is that you think i may be.

You can protest your bona fides all you want, but if thats not acting the arse what is it?

banie01 · 25-02-2020 6:56pm

Cyrus wrote: »

im not wondering, im sure of it, as ive stated a number of times, you are the one intent on making excuses for the scammer.

In your last post you made the inference that one of us might be a school kid, given that you should know if you yourself are the inference is that you think i may be.

You can protest your bona fides all you want, but if thats not acting the arse what is it?

I'm not, your overly sensitive.
One of us may well be, I have a school bag by my feet and have just left the company of a lecturer of a group of students.

Fits the description of schoolkid doesn't it?

Can I guess that you sing Disney songs and have an innate ability to control animals?

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 7:06pm

banie01 wrote: »

I'm not, your overly sensitive.
One of us may well be, I have a school bag by my feet and have just left the company of a lecturer of a group of students.

Fits the description of schoolkid doesn't it?

Can I guess that you sing Disney songs and have an innate ability to control animals?

You’ve lost me

Good luck

micks_address · 25-02-2020 7:20pm

Anyone considered that the guys adverts account could have been hacked?

banie01 · 25-02-2020 7:21pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

come on now stop trolling, it isnt helping the situation

That was my one and only attempt at it tho OG.

Still, news to me that Cyrus isn't an Emperor! Rather a slightly lower royal

Advice was originally offered in good faith and they got upset and started with the allegations.

At least now he can feel vindicated.

Cyrus · 25-02-2020 7:31pm

micks_address wrote: »

Anyone considered that the guys adverts account could have been hacked?

Potentially

I guess whoever’s bank account it is will have some questions to answer

emo72 · 25-02-2020 9:56pm

whos good for seiko in dublin? i like the look of the SPB125 but would like to try it on. would like to get a deal also though!

Skill Magill · 26-02-2020 7:39am

oxocube · 26-02-2020 10:37am

Just read an article on a bloke that was posting goods on Done Deal and not sending them. Court case was in the Fingal Independent.

Follow up with the Guards and they will do their job.

Linky

TheRepentent · 26-02-2020 11:54am

OmegaGene wrote: »

How did he think he would get away with it

Yeah special type of stupid especially using his own account for people to lodge money into

HDMI · 27-02-2020 3:00am

emo72 wrote: »

whos good for seiko in dublin? i like the look of the SPB125 but would like to try it on. would like to get a deal also though!

Nice watch but it's a Sumo so no chance of it appearing in a store in Dublin. As for getting a good deal this will be anywhere between $800-$1500 and when they sell out values will climb like all the other blacked out Seiko's.

Sumo got an upgraded movement the 6R35 with a 70 hour power reserve, so the whole range has gone up in price. There is even a nice looking solar chronograph Sumo SSC757 and SSC759.

James Bond Junior · 27-02-2020 11:57am

A targeted ad on social media suggested this today. I thought it looked really cool but does the price tag reflect itself? You are in secondhand Omega territory there.

https://www.watch.co.uk/citizen-satellite-wave-gps-titanium-gps-watch-cc7014-82e.htm

Cyrus · 27-02-2020 12:32pm

James Bond Junior wrote: »

A targeted ad on social media suggested this today. I thought it looked really cool but does the price tag reflect itself? You are in secondhand Omega territory there.

https://www.watch.co.uk/citizen-satellite-wave-gps-titanium-gps-watch-cc7014-82e.htm

not for me at half the price

Pablo_Flox · 27-02-2020 12:41pm

A bit busy for me.

But I'm very curious about what happens if you tell the watch you need food and water?

oxocube · 27-02-2020 3:54pm

Pablo_Flox wrote: »

A bit busy for me.

But I'm very curious about what happens if you tell the watch you need food and water?

Logs a message with Justeat.ie and sends a McDonalds to the Everest Base Camp?

27-02-2020 6:50pm

James Bond Junior wrote: »

A targeted ad on social media suggested this today. I thought it looked really cool but does the price tag reflect itself? You are in secondhand Omega territory there.

https://www.watch.co.uk/citizen-satellite-wave-gps-titanium-gps-watch-cc7014-82e.htm

It's unusually expensive - more than the inherent watch justifies - because it's a limited 30th anniversary model. The price tags on these type of anniversary things never really make sense, unless you're very much into the brand.

If it's just the overall look that you like, there's no shortage of Promaster Sky watches for a lot less. With similar aesthetics, bracelet style etc. €500 would buy you something pretty nice, maybe not with GPS sync but certainly with radio sync.

I'm only linking to the HK site because they have the Promaster Sky grouped together but you can see the CC7014 is way more expensive than most of them.

https://www.citizen.com.hk/html/en/products/promaster/?from=Sky

Something like the CB5000 is €500 or less in Europe.

emo72 · 27-02-2020 6:53pm

HDMI wrote: »

Nice watch but it's a Sumo so no chance of it appearing in a store in Dublin. As for getting a good deal this will be anywhere between $800-$1500 and when they sell out values will climb like all the other blacked out Seiko's.

Sumo got an upgraded movement the 6R35 with a 70 hour power reserve, so the whole range has gone up in price. There is even a nice looking solar chronograph Sumo SSC757 and SSC759.

always dashing my hopes. you need to come back with a suitcase full of watches.

micks_address · 27-02-2020 7:21pm

Cyrus wrote: »

not for me at half the price

Looks like a Seiko flight master

James Bond Junior · 27-02-2020 7:37pm

If I was spending €500 I'd go to Tissot in my local mall and get something I think. Or keep saving and get a nice used Longines or something. I'd rightly thought Citizen was a more mainstream and inexpensive brand, hence my curiosity as to was it a justified price.

27-02-2020 7:47pm

Okay, I misread your post, I assumed you were thinking of pulling the trigger !

Citizen make some expensive stuff - high accuracy quartz etc. I saw something recently for $17k. Most of their line-up is sub €1000, or even sub €500. If you're into quartz they make some very nice stuff but most watch enthusiasts are not (into quartz). The build quality and surface treatments of their titanium cases and bracelets on some stuff around €500-1000 compares very well with swiss brands priced a lot more.

James Bond Junior · 27-02-2020 7:57pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Okay, I misread your post, I assumed you were thinking of pulling the trigger !

Citizen make some expensive stuff - high accuracy quartz etc. I saw something recently for $17k. Most of their line-up is sub €1000, or even sub €500. If you're into quartz they make some very nice stuff but most watch enthusiasts are not (into quartz). The build quality and surface treatments of their titanium cases and bracelets on some stuff around €500-1000 compares very well with swiss brands priced a lot more.

No way. I have a family friend back in Ireland who deals in jewellery and used watches, I'd give him a budget of similar and I would get something much tastier. Wife wants something first though.

Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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