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Why would an Irish person wear a poppy ?

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  • #902
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    there should be a national day of commemoration for the famine victims.
    it's a disgrace that there is not.

    do something about it then......

    you can start by opening a thread......


  • #903
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    golden lane wrote: »
    do something about it then......

    you can start by opening a thread......

    what about a nation day of fasting?
    or perhaps feasting?

    i think i'll email Enda.


  • #904
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    gurramok wrote: »
    Any commemorations planned? Perhaps fundraising using a symbol?
    if a statue is a symbol ,yes,ministers have expressed support for the commeration hailing glasgow city councils decision to erect a monument to AN GORTA MOR [the great hunger] as a tragic period in irelands and scotlands history, and if you wish to find out what happened to those who were lucky enough to escape the irish famine and get to england,you need to go no further than the worlds irish heritage centre[no its not in ireland] its in manchester,there are also a number of statues and monumonts put up by the irish community around the country


  • #905
    Cool_CM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    I, for one, would never have associated Boyle Co. Roscommon with the concept of progress:
    Breakingnews.ie wrote:
    TD wears 'symbolic' poppy in Dáil

    An Irish Government TD has said he wore a poppy to the Dáil today to show that remembering the Irish war dead is no longer off limits.

    Frank Feighan, who called last week for a joint British-Irish approach to commemorating the First World War, is the first TD to make the gesture for 16 years.

    “We have well and truly moved on from that dark, bloody era in the North before the evolution of the peace process – a time when the politics of fear and divisiveness tore apart communities living side by side,” he said.

    “Thankfully, the peace dividend has delivered a new politics which has allowed us to publicly respect all traditions on this island.

    “This politics of inclusiveness has also allowed us to publicly revisit some aspects of our past which up to recently were off limits. That includes the countless Irish men who fought and died in the Great Wars.”

    Mr Feighan, chair of the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly, is the first TD to wear a poppy to the Dáil since 1996 when Labour’s Emmet Stagg, and Fine Gael TDs Paddy Harte and Brian Hayes set the example.

    He said he wore the poppy as a symbolic gesture to remember the war dead and to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts.

    Mr Feighan represents Roscommon-Leitrim and his home town of Boyle was a barracks base for the Connaught Rangers.

    About 50,000 Irish men who enlisted for the First World War died.

    Some 31,500 of John Redmond’s National Volunteers joined the war effort. Around 26,000 unionists from the north and south of Ireland also enlisted.

    The Irish Government this year pardoned about 5,000 soldiers branded deserters and blacklisted for fighting for the Allies against Nazi Germany in the Second World War.

    “Sadly, it is only in recent years that the stories of many of these brave Irish men have been recognised,” Mr Feighan said.

    “Indeed, many of the WWII veterans that returned to Ireland were treated not just with hostility but were persecuted by official Ireland, and had their employment, pay and pension rights affected.

    “For me, wearing the poppy in the Dáil is a symbolic gesture to not only recognise the Irish men who fought in the Great Wars but to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts.”

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/td-wears-symbolic-poppy-in-dail-573173.html

    Interesting that he didn't go for the green one. Wonder how that'll go down with his local constituents.


  • #906
    gobnaitolunacy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    I, for one, would never have associated Boyle Co. Roscommon with the concept of progress:



    Interesting that he didn't go for the green one. Wonder how that'll go down with his local constituents.


    As long as he fixes the road, they probably don't care what he wears.


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  • #907
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    what about a nation day of fasting?
    or perhaps feasting?

    i think i'll email Enda.

    well, i think it would be good to start with national rememberence day.....

    when a period of silence would be observed......one or two minutes perhaps.....


  • #908
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,110 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    golden lane wrote: »
    well, i think it would be good to start with national rememberence day.....

    when a period of silence would be observed......one or two minutes perhaps.....

    They can combine famine remembrance with the Gathering, and none of the visitors will be able to eat anything because the eateries will have shoved up the prices so much as to make food unaffordable.


  • #909
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    They can combine famine remembrance with the Gathering, and none of the visitors will be able to eat anything because the eateries will have shoved up the prices so much as to make food unaffordable.

    i detect a tone of frustration......and i agree with you...

    yes, ireland needs a good shakedown.....and face the real world.....

    but i do hope that some recognition of the famines victims is called for in the future.....


  • #910
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    getz wrote: »
    if a statue is a symbol ,yes,ministers have expressed support for the commeration hailing glasgow city councils decision to erect a monument to AN GORTA MOR [the great hunger] as a tragic period in irelands and scotlands history, and if you wish to find out what happened to those who were lucky enough to escape the irish famine and get to england,you need to go no further than the worlds irish heritage centre[no its not in ireland] its in manchester,there are also a number of statues and monumonts put up by the irish community around the country

    I always knew there was a culture vulture lurking behind that ruthless exterior. :D


  • #911
    lukesmom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Hilly Bill wrote: »

    So is football, but i bet you wouldnt have an issue wearing one of their football clubs shirts.

    Don't follow football :)


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  • #912
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    I, for one, would never have associated Boyle Co. Roscommon with the concept of progress:



    Interesting that he didn't go for the green one. .............

    Its what you'd expect from a blueshirt, tbh.


  • #913
    GRMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Nodin wrote: »
    Its what you'd expect from a blueshirt, tbh.
    blue shirt in being a west brit shocker


  • #914
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    golden lane wrote: »
    well, i think it would be good to start with national rememberence day.....

    when a period of silence would be observed......one or two minutes perhaps.....

    Any thoughts in remembering our heroes who freed us from British rule in the War of Independence?


  • #915
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    gurramok wrote: »
    Any thoughts in remembering our heroes who freed us from British rule in the War of Independence?

    i thought that was covered in the easter parade......

    i am open to correction...


  • #916
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I see Craig Doyle wears one when he is presenting the rugby league...Douche.


  • #917
    gurramok
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    golden lane wrote: »
    i thought that was covered in the easter parade......

    i am open to correction...

    Do you have any thoughts considering you are British? (well your kids are and you come across as such http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81564719&postcount=614 )


  • #918
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    gurramok wrote: »
    Do you have any thoughts considering you are British? (well your kids are and you come across as such http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81564719&postcount=614 )

    i am as irish as any other irishman.....

    yes, my children are british, and i have lived in the uk for most of my life...

    and my loyalty is first to my children...

    i left ireland as soon as i was old enough to do so....but i still have an irish passport....with no intentions of changing to any other....

    i did not read your link.......i never read links.....

    this is a discussion forum......not an information department....


  • #919
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Remmy wrote: »
    I see Craig Doyle wears one when he is presenting the rugby league...Douche.

    How so? Perhaps his grandfather fought and died in WW1? Who are you to judge him?


  • #920
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    golden lane wrote: »
    i did not read your link.......i never read links.....

    this is a discussion forum......not an information department....

    Jaysus forbid you learn something....


  • #921
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Nodin wrote: »
    Jaysus forbid you learn something....

    what is available to one....is available to all...

    with a personal choice to ignore it......as it is written by another human being, it will naturally have a bias.....

    i am old enough to know that, and clever enough to make my own choices....

    any more personal rants....????


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  • #922
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    old hippy wrote: »
    How so? Perhaps his grandfather fought and died in WW1? Who are you to judge him?


    ...and for the christ knows what time, the funds for the poppy go to British ex-service personell, who have served in a host of occupations from Asia to the middle east. If he wants to remember his ancestors, he can get a poppy out of a florist.


  • #923
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    golden lane wrote: »
    i am as irish as any other irishman.....

    yes, my children are british, and i have lived in the uk for most of my life...

    and my loyalty is first to my children...

    i left ireland as soon as i was old enough to do so....but i still have an irish passport....with no intentions of changing to any other....

    Do you teach your children some Irish history considering there is feck all of it taught in British schools?


  • #924
    WanabeOlympian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭WanabeOlympian


    Hard to say whether I would wear one or not. I know so many Irish men and women put their lives in danger to fight evil during WWII. They had courage and fought for good. We should be proud of them for this and appreciate we are free from an evil dictator because of their actions.

    However I think the poppy here is loaded with politics. I think it would be really cool to have our own symbol we could wear that remembers all Irish people who were in Irish army and other armies, maybe a green poppy? haha I don't know, just a thought.


  • #925
    bluecode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    gurramok wrote: »
    Do you teach your children some Irish history considering there is feck all of it taught in British schools?
    I wouldn't if I was him. It's bad enough that we here are all subjected to the distorted, biased and incomplete moan fest that is Irish history as taught in this country.

    It is very evident that many people have only the simplest version of Irish history in their minds: Essentially the English oppressed us for 600/800/850 years and then we got our glorious freedom in 1916 or around that time.

    The tabloid version of Irish history. :mad:


  • #926
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    If he wants to remember his ancestors, he can get a poppy out of a florist.

    Or he can support ex Irish servicemen/their widows and get a Poppy from the Irish Poppy Appeal fund.


  • #927
    Rascasse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    Nodin wrote: »
    the funds for the poppy go to British ex-service personell,

    That's not strictly true. The money goes to to British Legion that helps mostly ex-soldiers and their families. They don't go around giving out cash, but help them retrain, reintegrate and such. They also help their families if their loved ones get injured or are killed. Not by giving cash, but practical support.

    On a personal level I've only good things to say about the RBL. My grandfather on my mothers side was in the RAF in WWII and after he died in the 80's my grandmother found great comfort in her local British Legion centre. They provided a place for her and others like her to go to chat, play bridge, help organise excursions and took them shopping in their minibus to help keep them independent and active.

    If I saw a tin I'd throw in a few quid based on the help they gave my gran, but I'd never wear a poppy here. I try not to make myself a target wherever possible.


  • #928
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Or he can support ex Irish servicemen/their widows and get a Poppy from the Irish Poppy Appeal fund.


    ...but as they were involved in the same Imperial enterprises, I'm not seeing that as any better. This isn't about what nationality is listed on a birth cert.


  • #929
    john why
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭john why


    Roy keane has one on now. ah well he's from cork


  • #930
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    gurramok wrote: »

    Curious as you constantly harp on about Remembrance, sacrifice of millions etc. Do you also have the same affection for the victims of The Famine of your own country?
    Uneqivocally yes. Although through the emigration that followed the world benefited greatly from an Irish diaspora.


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  • #931
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    bluecode wrote: »
    I wouldn't if I was him. It's bad enough that we here are all subjected to the distorted, biased and incomplete moan fest that is Irish history as taught in this country.

    It is very evident that many people have only the simplest version of Irish history in their minds: Essentially the English oppressed us for 600/800/850 years and then we got our glorious freedom in 1916 or around that time.

    The tabloid version of Irish history. :mad:

    So how would you teach Irish history? Completely ignore what has happened to this island because it doesn't fit your narrowminded myopic view?


  • #932
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    If you're thinking of buying a poppy remember your money is going to people who have murdered Irish kids on Irish streets. Kids such as...

    Carol Ann Kelly 12 years, Twinbrook, west Belfast, shot by a plastic bullet fired by a member of the British Army’s Royal Fusiliers, on 19 May 1981. She died two days later.

    Anthony McDowell 13 years, Duneden Park, Ardoyne, north Belfast, shot dead on 19 April 1973, by members of the British Army’s Parachute Regiment.

    Daniel Hegarty was age 15 years, from Swilly Gardens, Creggan, Derry City. Daniel was shot dead on 31 July 1972, by members of the British Army's Royal Scots Regiment.

    Annette McGavigan 14 years old, Drumcliff Avenue, Derry City, shot in the back of the head by a British Army soldier on 6 September 1971.

    There's a reason their own Government doesn't look after them and forces them to beg.

    "These are shocking conclusions to read and shocking words to have to say, but you do not defend the British army by defending the indefensible."
    British Prime Minister David Cameron.


  • #933
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Im not agianst any Irish person wearing it because there reletives may have fought in the war but I would certainly not wear it.

    Even if I were on The BBC or ITV I wouldnt wear it.


  • #934
    Rascasse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    If you're thinking of buying a poppy remember your money is going to people who have murdered Irish kids on Irish streets. Kids such as...

    Also remember that if you buy an easter lily badge your money is going to a group that killed more children than any other during the troubles.


  • #935
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    If you're thinking of buying a poppy remember your money is going to people who have murdered Irish kids on Irish streets. Kids such as...

    I disagree.

    If you buy a poppy in the ROI your contribution almost exclusively goes towards old Irish WWII veterans (Leopardstown Hospital for example), or the widows of Irish WWII veterans. Poppies sold in the ROI are provided by the IRISH Poppy appeal fund, and the procedes are contained & distributed within the ROI. The Irish dead from the Great War (1914-1918) + WWII (1939-45) are the main focus of whom we commemorate here in the ROI.


  • #936
    Rascasse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I disagree.

    If you buy a poppy in the ROI your contribution almost exclusively goes towards old Irish WWII veterans (Leopardstown Hospital for example), or the widows of Irish WWII veterans. Poppies sold in the ROI are provided by the IRISH Poppy appeal fund, and the procedes are contained & distributed within the ROI. The Irish dead from the Great War (1914-1918) + WWII (1939-45) are the main focus of whom we commemorate here in the ROI.

    In the First World alone 50.000 Irish men lay dead in the Poppy fields . . . .

    Do they proactively collect here? I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone collecting for the legion, nor anyone wearing a poppy.


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  • #937
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Yes - See post#331 last paragraph.

    . . . "Dunno for how much longer though, as the elderly ladies who sell them in Dublin and countrywide are getting fewer and fewer as the years pass by. Obviously you can get a poppy at this time of year in any Church of Ireland/ Methodist or Preysbyterian Church (small contribution always welcome), but Poppy sellers on the streets are slowly becoming a thing of the past in the ROI".


  • #938
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Should savages be allowed to wear the poppy?
    This is a letter from a British Officer to the homeland. Read and decide for yourself who the savage was. See what the mealy-mouthed colonial apologists will come up with this time.

    viewer?attid=0.1&pid=gmail&thid=13ad74dea5673a7e&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fu%2F0%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D24ebf85d67%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13ad74dea5673a7e%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&docid=75bf0f9698899683081dbcfeee697a6c%7Cf97cb472ee4b570cf287552df04bd030&a=bi&pagenumber=3&w=800


  • #939
    GRMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Spread wrote: »
    Should savages be allowed to wear the poppy?
    This is a letter from a British Officer to the homeland. Read and decide for yourself who the savage was. See what the mealy-mouthed colonial apologists will come up with this time.

    viewer?attid=0.1&pid=gmail&thid=13ad74dea5673a7e&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fu%2F0%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D24ebf85d67%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13ad74dea5673a7e%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&docid=75bf0f9698899683081dbcfeee697a6c%7Cf97cb472ee4b570cf287552df04bd030&a=bi&pagenumber=3&w=800
    Link doesnt work I'm afraid


  • #940
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Spread wrote: »
    Should savages be allowed to wear the poppy?
    This is a letter from a British Officer to the homeland. Read and decide for yourself who the savage was. See what the mealy-mouthed colonial apologists will come up with this time.

    viewer?attid=0.1&pid=gmail&thid=13ad74dea5673a7e&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fu%2F0%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D24ebf85d67%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13ad74dea5673a7e%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&docid=75bf0f9698899683081dbcfeee697a6c%7Cf97cb472ee4b570cf287552df04bd030&a=bi&pagenumber=3&w=800

    i am very disappointed here.....what went on in the past we all are aware of.....we watched it every night on the news...some of us lived it....

    as an irishman i am horrified at the implication that irish did not commit atrocities ......and those acts are being condoned by irish people on this thread.....irish people killing irish people.....

    no need to post a list of the british side.....seen it, lived it, and am horrified by it.....

    but the thought that irish killing irish is being condoned......makes me sick......


  • #941
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    GRMA wrote: »
    Link doesnt work I'm afraid

    If it comes out in diminished font ............ use +150


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  • #942
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    golden lane wrote: »
    i am very disappointed here.....what went on in the past we all are aware of.....we watched it every night on the news...some of us lived it....

    as an irishman i am horrified at the implication that irish did not commit atrocities ......and those acts are being condoned by irish people on this thread.....irish people killing irish people.....

    no need to post a list of the british side.....seen it, lived it, and am horrified by it.....

    but the thought that irish killing irish is being condoned......makes me sick......

    I'm not quite sure if you are familiar with history as a whole. Civil wars - declared or otherwise - are a fact of life. AFAIK people in other countries were just as adept at it, if not better. In scenarios where an occupied army are forced to withdraw, the ensuing power vacuum causes the war/killings/social unrest. So I don't know why you get so upset ......... it happens. I mean, people have been getting killed since Abel.


  • #943
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I disagree.

    If you buy a poppy in the ROI your contribution almost exclusively goes towards old Irish WWII veterans (Leopardstown Hospital for example), or the widows of Irish WWII veterans. Poppies sold in the ROI are provided by the IRISH Poppy appeal fund, and the procedes are contained & distributed within the ROI. The Irish dead from the Great War (1914-1918) + WWII (1939-45) are the main focus of whom we commemorate here in the ROI.


    ....as they're nearly all dead, its highly unlikely the majority of funds go towards them.


  • #944
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Spread wrote: »
    Should savages be allowed to wear the poppy?
    This is a letter from a British Officer to the homeland. Read and decide for yourself who the savage was. See what the mealy-mouthed colonial apologists will come up with this time.

    viewer?attid=0.1&pid=gmail&thid=13ad74dea5673a7e&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2Fu%2F0%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D24ebf85d67%26view%3Datt%26th%3D13ad74dea5673a7e%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&docid=75bf0f9698899683081dbcfeee697a6c%7Cf97cb472ee4b570cf287552df04bd030&a=bi&pagenumber=3&w=800

    Link doesn't work for me either....


  • #945
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    john why wrote: »
    Roy keane has one on now. ah well he's from cork
    sure roy keane would wear one,he lives and works in the UK,he understands just what its all about,not like some of the posters on here who have a village mentality,


  • #946
    Death and Taxes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    And a TD wore one in the Dail yesterday.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/td-remembers-war-dead-with-poppy-in-dail-3286152.html


  • #947
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Spread wrote: »

    I'm not quite sure if you are familiar with history as a whole. Civil wars - declared or otherwise - are a fact of life. AFAIK people in other countries were just as adept at it, if not better. In scenarios where an occupied army are forced to withdraw, the ensuing power vacuum causes the war/killings/social unrest. So I don't know why you get so upset ......... it happens. I mean, people have been getting killed since Abel.
    Atrocities like Omagh are nothing to do with civil wars & all to do with murder


  • #948
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Spread wrote: »
    Should savages be allowed to wear the poppy?
    This is a letter from a British Officer to the homeland. Read and decide for yourself who the savage was. See what the mealy-mouthed colonial apologists will come up with this time.

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    The irony of that coming from someone in America is hilarious. Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Grenada?

    Get back in your box and keep throwing a few bucks in the jar "for the boys"....


  • #949
    gurramok
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    summerskin wrote: »
    The irony of that coming from someone in America is hilarious. Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Grenada?

    Get back in your box and keep throwing a few bucks in the jar "for the boys"....

    Whats the difference between yourself and Spread? Yes Spread is in USA(probably Irish emigrant) and yourself is a British immigrant to Ireland. Both are immigrants with a different nationality and point of view on this topic, hardly surprising is it?


  • #950
    partyguinness
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    I disagree.

    If you buy a poppy in the ROI your contribution almost exclusively goes towards old Irish WWII veterans (Leopardstown Hospital for example), or the widows of Irish WWII veterans. Poppies sold in the ROI are provided by the IRISH Poppy appeal fund, and the procedes are contained & distributed within the ROI. The Irish dead from the Great War (1914-1918) + WWII (1939-45) are the main focus of whom we commemorate here in the ROI.


    When they joined the British Army, they became British soldiers.


  • #951
    partyguinness
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    getz wrote: »
    sure roy keane would wear one,he lives and works in the UK,he understands just what its all about,not like some of the posters on here who have a village mentality,


    I would say it has more to do with his employer insisting on it rather than Mr Keane actually giving the matter too much thought.


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