goodie2shoes wrote: » there should be a national day of commemoration for the famine victims. it's a disgrace that there is not.
golden lane wrote: » do something about it then...... you can start by opening a thread......
gurramok wrote: » Any commemorations planned? Perhaps fundraising using a symbol?
Breakingnews.ie wrote: TD wears 'symbolic' poppy in Dáil An Irish Government TD has said he wore a poppy to the Dáil today to show that remembering the Irish war dead is no longer off limits. Frank Feighan, who called last week for a joint British-Irish approach to commemorating the First World War, is the first TD to make the gesture for 16 years. “We have well and truly moved on from that dark, bloody era in the North before the evolution of the peace process – a time when the politics of fear and divisiveness tore apart communities living side by side,” he said. “Thankfully, the peace dividend has delivered a new politics which has allowed us to publicly respect all traditions on this island. “This politics of inclusiveness has also allowed us to publicly revisit some aspects of our past which up to recently were off limits. That includes the countless Irish men who fought and died in the Great Wars.” Mr Feighan, chair of the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly, is the first TD to wear a poppy to the Dáil since 1996 when Labour’s Emmet Stagg, and Fine Gael TDs Paddy Harte and Brian Hayes set the example. He said he wore the poppy as a symbolic gesture to remember the war dead and to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts. Mr Feighan represents Roscommon-Leitrim and his home town of Boyle was a barracks base for the Connaught Rangers. About 50,000 Irish men who enlisted for the First World War died. Some 31,500 of John Redmond’s National Volunteers joined the war effort. Around 26,000 unionists from the north and south of Ireland also enlisted. The Irish Government this year pardoned about 5,000 soldiers branded deserters and blacklisted for fighting for the Allies against Nazi Germany in the Second World War. “Sadly, it is only in recent years that the stories of many of these brave Irish men have been recognised,” Mr Feighan said. “Indeed, many of the WWII veterans that returned to Ireland were treated not just with hostility but were persecuted by official Ireland, and had their employment, pay and pension rights affected. “For me, wearing the poppy in the Dáil is a symbolic gesture to not only recognise the Irish men who fought in the Great Wars but to illustrate how the politics of engagement and not war is the only way forward in solving seemingly intractable conflicts.”http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/td-wears-symbolic-poppy-in-dail-573173.html
Cool_CM wrote: » I, for one, would never have associated Boyle Co. Roscommon with the concept of progress: Interesting that he didn't go for the green one. Wonder how that'll go down with his local constituents.
goodie2shoes wrote: » what about a nation day of fasting? or perhaps feasting? i think i'll email Enda.
golden lane wrote: » well, i think it would be good to start with national rememberence day..... when a period of silence would be observed......one or two minutes perhaps.....
ejmaztec wrote: » They can combine famine remembrance with the Gathering, and none of the visitors will be able to eat anything because the eateries will have shoved up the prices so much as to make food unaffordable.
getz wrote: » if a statue is a symbol ,yes,ministers have expressed support for the commeration hailing glasgow city councils decision to erect a monument to AN GORTA MOR [the great hunger] as a tragic period in irelands and scotlands history, and if you wish to find out what happened to those who were lucky enough to escape the irish famine and get to england,you need to go no further than the worlds irish heritage centre[no its not in ireland] its in manchester,there are also a number of statues and monumonts put up by the irish community around the country
Hilly Bill wrote: » So is football, but i bet you wouldnt have an issue wearing one of their football clubs shirts.
Cool_CM wrote: » I, for one, would never have associated Boyle Co. Roscommon with the concept of progress: Interesting that he didn't go for the green one. .............
Nodin wrote: » Its what you'd expect from a blueshirt, tbh.
gurramok wrote: » Any thoughts in remembering our heroes who freed us from British rule in the War of Independence?
golden lane wrote: » i thought that was covered in the easter parade...... i am open to correction...
gurramok wrote: » Do you have any thoughts considering you are British? (well your kids are and you come across as such http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81564719&postcount=614 )
Remmy wrote: » I see Craig Doyle wears one when he is presenting the rugby league...Douche.
golden lane wrote: » i did not read your link.......i never read links..... this is a discussion forum......not an information department....
Nodin wrote: » Jaysus forbid you learn something....
old hippy wrote: » How so? Perhaps his grandfather fought and died in WW1? Who are you to judge him?
golden lane wrote: » i am as irish as any other irishman..... yes, my children are british, and i have lived in the uk for most of my life... and my loyalty is first to my children... i left ireland as soon as i was old enough to do so....but i still have an irish passport....with no intentions of changing to any other....
gurramok wrote: » Do you teach your children some Irish history considering there is feck all of it taught in British schools?
Nodin wrote: » If he wants to remember his ancestors, he can get a poppy out of a florist.
Nodin wrote: » the funds for the poppy go to British ex-service personell,
LordSutch wrote: » Or he can support ex Irish servicemen/their widows and get a Poppy from the Irish Poppy Appeal fund.
gurramok wrote: » Curious as you constantly harp on about Remembrance, sacrifice of millions etc. Do you also have the same affection for the victims of The Famine of your own country?
bluecode wrote: » I wouldn't if I was him. It's bad enough that we here are all subjected to the distorted, biased and incomplete moan fest that is Irish history as taught in this country. It is very evident that many people have only the simplest version of Irish history in their minds: Essentially the English oppressed us for 600/800/850 years and then we got our glorious freedom in 1916 or around that time. The tabloid version of Irish history. :mad:
