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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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  • #9902
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Oh you poor little snowflake, how did you manage at all with only three hours a day in the "communcal" room?

    The prison must have been very tough for you.

    All because of the big bad man in charge.

    Is the chap not entitled to his opinion without being ridiculed?


  • #9903
    mada82
    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭mada82


    El_Bee wrote: »
    maybe mods should lock this thread until there's an actual shooting, there's plenty of threads on crime and punishment already.

    So if you don’t want to post nobody should be able to? You could always just unfollow the thread until there is a shooting.


  • #9904
    Bluesteed
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Bluesteed


    Anyone know of the feud that is kicking up at the minute?


  • #9905
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    ElBastardo1 wrote: »
    Because you were an inmate of his?

    Personally I was an inmate, or one of 'his boys' on five separate occasions. Calling him an animal is a bit rich to be honest.


  • #9906
    rondog
    Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    I found lonergan a fair man.If you gave respect you got it back from him.


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  • #9907
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    blinding wrote: »
    Humanity has been crossed , Sean .

    Oh the Swings and Fall - Abouts !:P

    I live in hope, maybe I’m in the wrong thread to keep that hope alive


  • #9908
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    ElBastardo1 wrote: »
    Because you were an inmate of his?

    Personally I was an inmate, or one of 'his boys' on five separate occasions. Calling him an animal is a bit rich to be honest.

    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw. Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.


  • #9909
    Telly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Telly


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.

    Prisoners are entitled to fúck all!!! And rightly so!


  • #9910
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Oh you poor little snowflake, how did you manage at all with only three hours a day in the "communcal" room?

    The prison must have been very tough for you.

    All because of the big bad man in charge.

    Is the chap not entitled to his opinion without being ridiculed?
    Yes he is, but when the opinion is a ridiculous slander others are entitled to call him out on it.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #9911
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    ElBastardo1 wrote: »
    Because you were an inmate of his?

    Personally I was an inmate, or one of 'his boys' on five separate occasions. Calling him an animal is a bit rich to be honest.

    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw. Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    ElBastardo1 wrote: »
    Because you were an inmate of his?

    Personally I was an inmate, or one of 'his boys' on five separate occasions. Calling him an animal is a bit rich to be honest.

    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw. Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.
    How is he pumping a line that those outside the jail saw when he already stated he was in the jail under the supervision of John Lornegan on 5 separate occasions?
    You have created this ex prisoner persona thinking you would be the only one posting here to reveal it and thus could say what you chose to unopposed, you got called out on it.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • #9912
    El_Bee
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    mada82 wrote: »
    So if you don’t want to post nobody should be able to? You could always just unfollow the thread until there is a shooting.


    you think this is productive? people namecalling over nothing?


  • #9913
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    El_Bee wrote: »
    you think this is productive? people namecalling over nothing?

    I think its intetesting getting "an eye" into the prison from former lags.

    I'll PM you when someone gets clipped, you can hit that unfollow button.


  • #9914
    glenq
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭glenq


    begbysback wrote: »
    Yea build more prisons, actually privatize it so it doesn’t cost the taxpayer anything, seems to have worked in the US as we hardly hear of any crime there nowadays

    Just curious, who pays for the private prisons in the US?


  • #9915
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    glenq wrote: »
    Just curious, who pays for the private prisons in the US?

    that would be the county, state or federal government.


  • #9916
    RC1985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭RC1985


    Rows Grower wrote: »

    Should be a decision by the jury sometime this morning I'd imagine.

    Found guilty, just now. Wonder how long he'll get. Less than a year probably.


  • #9917
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Yes he is, but when the opinion is a ridiculous slander others are entitled to call him out on it.

    Well calling him a snowflake and whatever other smart comments isn't what I would describe as calling him out.

    The thread was fine until we started calling each other names.


  • #9918
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    glenq wrote: »
    Just curious, who pays for the private prisons in the US?

    Government. Who owns the private prisons? Politicians (law makers) and Judges to name but a few.

    It's probably the most perfect business model you could think of.


  • #9919
    Deco Barry
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭Deco Barry


    RC1985 wrote: »
    Found guilty, just now. Wonder how long he'll get. Less than a year probably.

    Paul Healy a hack has just stated on Twitter that it carries a minimum sentence of 5 years


  • #9920
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Deco Barry wrote: »
    Paul Healy a hack has just stated on Twitter that it carries a minimum sentence of 5 years


    He is also on a suspended sentence for tax evasion. I wonder will that add to his sentence.


  • #9921
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Personally I was an inmate, or one of 'his boys' on five separate occasions. Calling him an animal is a bit rich to be honest.
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw.


    Worked under him myself. Lonergan was far from an animal. Too compassionate towards prisoners, if anything. That's not a shot at the man, just that he wasn't nearly as strict as he could've been. Sure he dedicated his life story and autobiography The Governor to the prisoners and his nickname was St John! The amount of times I personally witnessed him sign money over to needy criminals because they, or their families, were hard up is astonishing. He was basically Fr Peter McVerry in charge of a jail. A very humane and decent man. I'm shocked at the poster who said what they said about him.


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  • #9922
    glenq
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭glenq


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that would be the county, state or federal government.

    Yeah, thought as much, just the poster said it wouldn't cost the taxpayer anything.
    Not that prison is supposed to be a holiday camp, but the thought of a business running a prison for profit is such a bad idea.


  • #9923
    Fan of Netflix
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    https://twitter.com/Healyhack/status/1149290459291889664


  • #9924
    Telly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Telly


    Jesus he's aged a fair bit.


  • #9925
    ACAguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭ACAguy


    how long will be actually get? Strange he just gets bail for two months pending sentence. Realistically he just won't get 5 years. All seems a bit strange the garda and NCA have a big joint operation over a stun gun.


  • #9926
    ViaticalHorse
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭ViaticalHorse


    Any update on the fella who was picked up for the davis shooting?


  • #9927
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    Telly wrote: »
    Jesus he's aged a fair bit.




    Still got his hair though..unlike baldy mccombover branno.


  • #9928
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    ACAguy wrote: »
    how long will be actually get? Strange he just gets bail for two months pending sentence. Realistically he just won't get 5 years. All seems a bit strange the garda and NCA have a big joint operation over a stun gun.

    I'd imagine 5 years 2 suspended or some outlay similar. A proportion suspended.


  • #9929
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    In a way you would have to say fair play to him taking the hit on it rather than his kid. I doubt he went and bought a pink stun gun/torch himself.


  • #9930
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Government. Who owns the private prisons? Politicians (law makers) and Judges to name but a few.

    It's probably the most perfect business model you could think of.

    It not perfect at all ,

    You ever hear of the "Kids for Cash" scandal

    Private Prison's paying Judges to send people to Prison who don't deserver it so the Prison makes more money ,


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  • #9931
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ACAguy wrote: »
    how long will be actually get? Strange he just gets bail for two months pending sentence. Realistically he just won't get 5 years. All seems a bit strange the garda and NCA have a big joint operation over a stun gun.
    They were probably hoping to harpoon him and others for more !


  • #9932
    rondog
    Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    ACAguy wrote: »
    how long will be actually get? Strange he just gets bail for two months pending sentence. Realistically he just won't get 5 years. All seems a bit strange the garda and NCA have a big joint operation over a stun gun.

    Its all about getting convictions on him so if the authorities get something big on him it will all add up.
    This charge was clutching at straws and gave the police reason to raid his home and pick up potential information via computers,phones etc that they are probably analysing as we speak to bring further charges.

    Any time one of the big fish are out away it creates paranoia and disrupts their operations.Bomber wouldnt be stupid enough to be caught near anything big so any charge they can bring against him they will go for it.


  • #9933
    rondog
    Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭rondog


    pablo128 wrote: »
    In a way you would have to say fair play to him taking the hit on it rather than his kid. I doubt he went and bought a pink stun gun/torch himself.

    Im fairly sure he would have it for protection considering he cant really carry a gun


  • #9934
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    ViaticalHorse wrote: »
    Any update on the fella who was picked up for the davis shooting?


    Which fella, Cooney or someone else?


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/man-28-charged-with-murder-of-jordan-davis-in-darndale-1.3935722


  • #9935
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    rondog wrote: »
    Im fairly sure he would have it for protection considering he cant really carry a gun

    not much of protection if he is expecting a hit , might have invested in a bullet proof vest if that was the case

    bang bang beats zaaapppp !!!


  • #9936
    ViaticalHorse
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭ViaticalHorse


    cooney


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  • #9937
    Johnsmithsnan
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭Johnsmithsnan


    Floors ireland with drugs gets 5 years for a wish.com zapper . Irish papers dribble over these cases


  • #9938
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw. Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.
    Out of 11 separate sentences going back from the late nineties, 5 of those were in the joy, two wheatfield,one Limerick and three in other jurisdictions. Its fair to say I know lonergan well. Never had any guff from him.


  • #9939
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Out of 11 separate sentences going back from the late nineties, 5 of those were in the joy, two wheatfield,one Limerick and three in other jurisdictions. Its fair to say I know lonergan well. Never had any guff from him.

    Fair play to you for having the strength to turn your life around and not harbour any bitterness.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #9940
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    It not perfect at all ,

    You ever hear of the "Kids for Cash" scandal

    Private Prison's paying Judges to send people to Prison who don't deserver it so the Prison makes more money ,
    I think that's his point. It's the perfect 'business' model. In other words they pretty much have a licence to print cash.

    pablo128 wrote: »
    In a way you would have to say fair play to him taking the hit on it rather than his kid. I doubt he went and bought a pink stun gun/torch himself.
    I thought he tried to blame his kid? That one was in his own room, that's why they didn't accept it I think. They found two others but they were in one of the kids' rooms.
    At least that's the way I remember reading it.

    I'm sure if he could've stuck it on one of the kids knowing that they wouldn't serve any time or get a conviction he would have.


  • #9941
    Tommy Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Out of 11 separate sentences going back from the late nineties, 5 of those were in the joy, two wheatfield,one Limerick and three in other jurisdictions. Its fair to say I know lonergan well. Never had any guff from him.

    Was in Limerick myself, & Castlerea for 2 back in 99'.

    Thankfully I got cute learn't my lessons & haven't got snared for nearly 20 years now.


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  • #9942
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    How is it a bit rich? Your pumping the line that those outside the jail saw. Any sort of rocking the boat he felt it was his authority being questioned and punished prisoners. Prisoners are entitled to question is something's wrong it shouldn't of been opposed.
    Out of 11 separate sentences going back from the late nineties, 5 of those were in the joy, two wheatfield,one Limerick and three in other jurisdictions. Its fair to say I know lonergan well. Never had any guff from him.

    That's fine. I'm not disputing your opinion, I was under JL for 2 large sentences i had issues with him around my visits and also the death of another prisoner on the landing.


  • #9943
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Johnsmithsnan wrote: »
    Floors ireland with drugs gets 5 years for a wish.com zapper . Irish papers dribble over these cases

    Are them things off wish any use?

    Asking for a friend:)


  • #9944
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    begbysback wrote: »
    Oh sweet Jesus, I fear for the future of humanity when this is the current output. Do yourself a favor and google Johann Hari, maybe listen to him on joe rogan.

    You've little to be worrying you when a post about scumbags getting a soft ride makes you fear for the future of humanity. Maybe worry about something useful like climate change, overpopulation or mass extinctions. You'll probably burst.


  • #9945
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Warfarin is a tablet, not an injection,
    My Father injects it twice a day

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    https://www.btselem.org/



  • #9946
    Tommy Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    TheRepentent wrote: »
    My Father injects it twice a day

    I got myself an eight of sneachta this eve. Tearing the hole out of it now while watching Prime Time.


  • #9947
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Tommy Kelly wrote: »
    TheRepentent wrote: »
    My Father injects it twice a day

    I got myself an eight of sneachta this eve. Tearing the hole out of it now while watching Prime Time.
    Hahaha


  • #9948
    The Enbalmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    Tommy Kelly wrote:
    I got myself an eight of sneachta this eve. Tearing the hole out of it now while watching Prime Time.


    Says something for the quality of RTE programming that people have to take cocaine to make it watchable 😂


  • #9949
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Fair play to you for having the strength to turn your life around and not harbour any bitterness.

    I wouldn't say I don't carry any bitterness, just none for lonergan. Anyways I'm a firm believer in the ethos that you make your own luck.


  • #9950
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Are them things off wish any use?

    Asking for a friend:)

    I know a guy who got one off wish and theres a fair auld bang off it

    battery discharges very fast though


    Fair ruin a house party quickly though :D:D:D


  • #9951
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Very careless of Bomber to get done on that disguised firearm charge. That 10,000 volt stun gun is little more than a toy. Real stun guns are rated at at least 1 million volts.


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