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New York Giants Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    wawaman wrote: »
    Very underwhelming so far

    So...em...this take didn’t age well!

    Giants sign Adoree Jackson to a 3 year deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    the Giants are giving Jackson an astonishing three-year, $39 million deal. The deal will include more than $20 million in guaranteed money.

    We've been very active this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Ownership has backed DG and gone all in this year.

    If Golladay and Jackson repay the investment, in the same way as Martinez and Bradberry did last year, then we could have a very competitive team.

    Leaves the O-Line and Edge now for the draft.

    I will be interested to see if Solder can help the O-Line as well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Giants sign outside linebacker Ryan Anderson former of the football teams (still find it hard not to type the previous name)

    The veteran salary benefit contract is reportedly for one year worth $1.127 million, with a $137,500 signing bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Giants’ deal with Kyle Rudolph hits “snag” over foot injury

    Garafolo tweeted that “the team’s medical staff is concerned with Rudolph’s foot after his physical and believes he’ll need surgery. The sides are discussing how to proceed. The two-year deal was agreed to but not yet signed.”

    Garafolo also tweeted that ‘Rudolph is still in town and meeting with the #Giants tonight. The team and his camp are talking about a medical plan. Everything could be ironed out. The deal isn’t dead at this point. Just some extended discussions about the medicals right now.”

    https://www.bigblueview.com/2021/3/23/22347511/giants-deal-with-kyle-rudolph-hits-snag-over-foot-injury

    Pity as I thought this was a great signing

    Hopefully things can get sorted out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Giants’ deal with Kyle Rudolph hits “snag” over foot injury

    Garafolo tweeted that “the team’s medical staff is concerned with Rudolph’s foot after his physical and believes he’ll need surgery. The sides are discussing how to proceed. The two-year deal was agreed to but not yet signed.”

    Garafolo also tweeted that ‘Rudolph is still in town and meeting with the #Giants tonight. The team and his camp are talking about a medical plan. Everything could be ironed out. The deal isn’t dead at this point. Just some extended discussions about the medicals right now.”

    https://www.bigblueview.com/2021/3/23/22347511/giants-deal-with-kyle-rudolph-hits-snag-over-foot-injury

    Pity as I thought this was a great signing

    Hopefully things can get sorted out

    If the deal doesn't work out, I assume it puts TE back as an option for the draft? I wouldn't feel comfortable going with just Engram for the season, Rudolph is a nice safe dependable option and a great foil to Engram's more big play ability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    tgdaly wrote: »
    If the deal doesn't work out, I assume it puts TE back as an option for the draft? I wouldn't feel comfortable going with just Engram for the season, Rudolph is a nice safe dependable option and a great foil to Engram's constant ball dropping ability

    FYP


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    wawaman wrote: »
    FYP

    Haha dead on, he does have big play ability, but hands of lead unfortunately a lot of the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    I have no idea what the giants are going to do. Refreshing in a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    True

    Usually our draft targets get heavily leaked well before the event so others can leapfrog us

    Doesn't seem to be happening this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭human 19


    Anyone else still up, and planning to watch the draft? if so, who are you hoping for, or what position? Personally, I hope for Slater or Sewell. Top O-liners are like hens' teeth and cant be picked up in FA withouth overpaying (see Nate Solder). Get a great one and he could be here for 10 years. No point in having Galloday and Waddle wide open if Jones is on his back.

    Doubt very much Pitts would drop to 11 be the is th only one I would plump for over the 2 above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Dont know how to feel about last night. On the one hand,we got a big haul for the 11th pick from the Bears. On the other didnt see that pick coming especially with the edge guys still on the board.

    Im guessing we would have picked Devonta Smith at 11 if the Eagles didnt trade up. BTW who trades with a division opponent!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    I like it. Toney seems to have what we are missing, i.e. speed and flexibility. We got another pick this year which was needed and then a 1st next year.

    I had my reservations over Paye and was certainly afraid we would go Ojulari. We could still do that now but we also have a decent weapon.

    Question remains whether Garrett can us him I suppose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    I really like the trade. It's the first time we've traded down in 9 drafts in any round under Gettleman, and we got a pretty decent haul from the Bears. Once Smith was gone it just made sense, in previous years we probably would have reached on a guy so it's smart.

    On the pick itself I'm on the fence. A talented player but was it really a position of need? I'd have been more than happy with Golladay, Slayton, Shepard, Engram and Barkley as catching options going into the season.

    Be interesting to see where we go in rounds 2 and 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Love the trade

    Good value

    Hate the pick

    Last thing we needed is another player with inconsistent hands to go with Engram

    Seems a reach for him at 20

    So many other positions we could have used help at

    Hopefully I'll be proven wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    I suppose we will also have to couple Toney with what comes next year.

    Who would you have taken there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    If going WR I'd have preferred Bateman

    Paye or Rousseau better value at 20 than 11

    Then again what do I know?

    Hopefully the Giants know what they're doing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    I know, it's very hard to tell now. Only time will tell.

    I was just glad that we got out of 11 at that stage with both Bama receivers gone.

    I was afraid we were going to go Slater. Nothing against him, but we have invested in OL. Need to make it work now.

    If nothing else, we could see a season like 2016 or 2017, can't remember exactly, when we could score for fun but stop no one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    True

    We'll only know after next year's draft

    We're getting Toney, 5th rounder this year, 1st next, 4th next vs Fields

    I still think we'll invest in OLine in either round 2 or 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    PFF have given the Toney pick as an above average:

    R1 (20) NEW YORK GIANTS: WR KADARIUS TONEY, FLORIDA

    Pick Grade: Above Average

    Kadarius Toney is still learning to play wide receiver, but his development in 2020 was impressive to watch if you cued up his tape chronologically. Plus, there is no more electrifying playmaker in this draft. Toney is a tackle-breaking machine, and while he was primarily a slot receiver in college, he has the size and moves to develop into more than that at the next level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Hoping for an edge and Oline with our picks later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Gettleman trades back 2 in a row

    Now picking 50 with an extra 3rd rounder next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Azeez Ojulari Edge at 50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Azeez Ojulari Edge at 50

    It’s a steal if his knee holds up. Is this a new Gettleman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yeah some mocks had us taking him at 11

    Giants seem confident about his knee

    Must be new Gettleman alright seeing as he traded up to get Aaron Robinson lol

    Giving away 5th we got from Chicago yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Day three

    Ellerson Smith Edge
    Gary Brightwell RB
    Rodarious Williams CB

    Defence heavy draft

    4-2 split

    Think we could have done with OLine help bit overall happynenough


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    G-Men open this season at home to the Broncos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    It's May so hard to say. But initial thoughts are 9-8 would be a good result. The out of division schedule with NFC South and AFC West is tough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    boccy23 wrote: »
    It's May so hard to say. But initial thoughts are 9-8 would be a good result. The out of division schedule with NFC South and AFC West is tough.

    Gonna take me time to get used to that 17th game! I'd expect somewhere between 8-10 wins could be our ceiling. A lot has to go right, particularly on offense. Jones needs to sync up with his new weapons, hopefully Saquon can return to form, and the O-line holds up


  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭cheezums


    management must have confidence in the o-line. heads will roll if they don't improve massively though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    PFF has an interesting starting 11 on both sides of the ball for the Giants.

    Certainly looks a lot more competitive than the last few seasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    There seems to be a cloud of negativity over the Giants the last few weeks but I'm still fairly optimistic we can compete in this division. the Cowboys are always the media darling and the Football Team are getting some pop but I don't think either are better than the Giants can be.

    Definitely need the O-Line to hold up though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Not a good start to the season for Andrew Thomas

    Looked terrible last night

    Jones was ok bar that INT

    Can't afford them

    Hopefully the injuries to Slayton and Engram aren't too serious



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Didnt watch any of last nights game but by all accounts the OL was very worrying. If Jones is to have any chance at taking a step forward the OL needs to be able to protect him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I watched some of it and the OL didn't look very good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Oh great, still making QB’s look like HOF’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yup

    Terrible game

    No defence

    Offence Terrible

    Daniel Jones still turning fumbling and should have of had a few picks

    Long Long season ahead

    The most unforgiveable

    Our head coach losing a TO on a challenge on a scoring play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Christ, that was depressing.

    The real surprise was the ineffectiveness of the Defense. Couldn't stop the dinking and dunking of Teddy all day. Got very tired at the end for the big run which you can appreciate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭wawaman


    The more you look at Jones the clearer (to me at least) is that he doesnt have "it". He is a solid QB, no more no less.

    I think in a few years he could be another Josh Rosen. Maybe not as sudden a downhill slide but is there many other teams where he would be the starter?

    Maybe i should have used another word instead of slide, becauase as we know DJ isnt a fan of sliding !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yup

    I just don't see him making it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Defence getting mashed again

    Thought meant to be our strength going into the year

    Making Heineke look like a HOF

    Down 14-10 at HT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    3 pts to start the second half



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    TD Slayton

    Few poor plays from Golladay on the drive with drops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    20-17 now

    At least we held that drive to 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Great FG Gano

    Big throw from Jones under pressure

    Now would be a good time to get a stop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Christ make somebody other than 17 beat us please



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    OK only conceded 3

    Up 23-20



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