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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #3252
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mundo7976 wrote: »
    -10% Gardai seem more bothered that you would ring them in the first place!

    -10% for the lad who reported someone and got a ticket for his troubles


  • #3253
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Despite happening right in front of the Garda car and the horn from the other car surely alerting their attention to it all, not a hint of them going after the c*nt.

    I had a similar happen on the NCR a few years ago. 3 Gardai in the car had chosen to ignore it until myself and another that had to stop or be driven into it made exaggerated WTF gestures to them and at the car, and with a perceivable shrug and eye roll the Garda driver eventually decided maybe he should do his job and turned around and followed the car.

    The driver of the car had actually dived down a side alley and jumped out and tried to look innocent so I figured there was more to it than breaking a red light. Garda probably pissed that it took them that bit longer to get back to HQ.


  • #3254
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    0%

    100% for me. 7 reported and 7 dealt with. I can have absolutely no complaints. Other than the sh*tshow that is the reporting system here but I can't blame them for that!


  • #3255
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    ARX wrote: »
    No reaction from the Garda car. They really couldn't care less.

    I was on the quays a few years back, loads of cars driving in the bus lane, skipping the queues.
    I asked two Gardaí in a van in the lane next to me about it.
    Their response was "what do you want us to do about it".
    Some of them just don't care about enforcing some laws/rules of the road.


  • #3256
    Steoller
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭Steoller


    Effects wrote: »
    I was on the quays a few years back, loads of cars driving in the bus lane, skipping the queues.
    I asked two Gardaí in a van in the lane next to me about it.
    Their response was "what do you want us to do about it".
    Some of them just don't care about enforcing some laws/rules of the road.

    it's endemic. I know not all Guards are like this. I've had one trying and one good experience reporting issues to the Gardaí, myself, so I'm not willing to write them all off. But there are too many examples like the ones mentioned here for me not to suspect that it's cultural.

    And then you see stories like this.


  • #3257
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Am thinking about the child killed yesterday in Kerry. And the social media comments you see about it. I dont know what happened. But frequently the comments refer to thinking about how awful it is for both the childs family, and for the driver.

    The driver will have to live with this (they will). Every drivers worst nightmare.

    The thing is -and I'm talking generally, not about this incident - if its every drivers worst nightmare then why do they drive they way they do. Its not their worst nightmare. Until it happens.

    They dont drive like they believe this could happen.

    Am struck by a comment on thejournal.ie on this news story.

    "There are many houses immediately adjacent to this road & the speed limit is 80Km. Its such a dangerous road that it should be 60Km but all the locals drive at 100 & over! I’m regularly overtaken by idiots on solid white lines only to catch up with them a mile or so further up the road. Unfortunately this tragedy isn’t the first on this road & it will be repeated again & again. Every one is in a hurry to go nowhere!

    This is describes a road in Kerry. And it describes roads all over Ireland. Speed limits are routinely higher than they should be. And drivers routinely drive above the speed limit on same road. Everywhere.

    The culture of excessive speed is what kills people, particularly vulnerable road users. Its not an accident.


  • #3258
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    a chap i know was the driver in a pedestrian fatality. he was held to be completely blameless, by both the victim's family and the gardai, and witnesses who saw the incident. he took it badly, as you might expect - he sold his house because he didn't want to have to drive that road again, but within a few years had moved back to the area. time heals, i guess.


  • #3259
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    a chap i know was the driver in a pedestrian fatality. he was held to be completely blameless, by both the victim's family and the gardai, and witnesses who saw the incident. he took it badly, as you might expect - he sold his house because he didn't want to have to drive that road again, but within a few years had moved back to the area. time heals, i guess.

    Absolutely it does.... there was a few kids in my primary school. Their dad was killed in a traffic accident. I didnt know them at all really, but I just remember their shocked faces. But the thing is, 40 years on, they havent seen their dad for 40 years......whereas I can still call out to see my dad.


  • #3260
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What kind of wank3r thinks it is ok to endanger a bunch of children just to get to the next set of red lights quicker?

    https://twitter.com/donna_cooney1/status/1392763555917832194


  • #3261
    hots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    What kind of wank3r thinks it is ok to endanger a bunch of children just to get to the next set of red lights quicker?

    https://twitter.com/donna_cooney1/status/1392763555917832194

    How does it make them get through lights quicker? Slower surely as they all have to stick together at the slowest one's pace?


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  • #3262
    fixXxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    hots wrote: »
    How does it make them get through lights quicker? Slower surely as they all have to stick together at the slowest one's pace?

    He's talking about the truck putting kids in danger so it can get through the lights quicker, not the cycle bus.


  • #3263
    hots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    fixXxer wrote: »
    He's talking about the truck putting kids in danger so it can get through the lights quicker, not the cycle bus.

    jesus my bad :o


  • #3264
    sy_flembeck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    What kind of wank3r thinks it is ok to endanger a bunch of children just to get to the next set of red lights quicker?

    https://twitter.com/donna_cooney1/status/1392763555917832194

    I was walking in Bray this afternoon, southbound on Castle Street towards the main junction at the bottom of the town centre (Main St/ Herbert/ Quinsboro' Roads). Got to the junction and the lights were green for the traffic on Main St. As I was intending crossing the junction diagonally I was mindful of a car stopped waiting to turn right onto Herbert Road. The cycle lane at Macari's chipper is closed due to roadworks and there is good signage to reflect this.

    Coming down Main Street towards me I see a woman and a little girl, maybe 6yo, cycling towards me. Both wearing helmets and both in cycle lane. Mother slightly out to the edge in a protective manner (we've all done it). Then the woman in a white car behind them decides she wants to pass. On the junction. With the lights amber. And an oncoming stationary car (waiting to turn right). And a closed cycle lane. Bizarrely she passes giving them plenty of space but they are forced to move out due to the roadworks. So she is left going through a red light on the wrong side of the road facing an oncoming car. An utterly shocking manoeuvre. Absolutely no awareness of her surroundings - simply MGIF.

    But it's what happens next that's the real sickener. She sits on the horn and frightens the life out of both cyclists - who up to that point were unaware of what was unfolding behind them.

    However, the junction was very busy with pedestrians, many of whom were not shy in shouting their opinions after her (sadly of course the driver was completely oblivious to this and is doubtless still blaming the bloody cyclists).

    While I found the reactions refreshing I couldn't help thinking that had that been me and one other male adult in cycling gear the reaction would most likely have been mute.


  • #3265
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Three close passes today. I was driving.

    Heading up a steep winding hill towards the Blue Light. Three cyclists ahead of me, and a blind corner, so I held back to give them room, until it was clear. As I was overtaking, a Black Peugeot further back decided to overtake me at the same time. Really dangerous if something had been the other side of the corner.

    Heading back down towards Sandyford, passing over the M50, two oncoming cyclists riding two abreast. Driver swerves on to my side of the road to overtake them, leaving me having to swerve sharply into the bus lane on my side to avoid collision.

    Final one was on the strand road in Sandymount. Articulated lorry coming towards me overtakes a cyclist at the same time as meeting me, so leaving them very little space.


  • #3266
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Had this impatient muppet overtake me going into a bend with oncoming traffic on the Aylmer Rd between Lucan and Newcastle yesterday evening. I had put my arm out to indicate for them not to overtake but they continued anyhow.
    The traffic before them also overtoook on the approach to a bend but nothing as bad as the cretin in the Hyundai...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOabxj9YTIA


  • #3267
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/nc0pxh/you_had_one_job_and_that_definitely_wasnt_it/


    Not so much as a near miss as a I definitely got you!


  • #3268
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Coming back from a lovely little ride around my local area yesterday

    The road outside my estate has this little narrow chicane bit of about 50 yards which is one way at a time, so you need to yield to traffic already coming though it. Due to a bends at both ends, there's no thru visibility until you get to it, so you need to slow down and check if there's anything coming from the other end and stop if necessary.

    Its a traffic calmed street with speed bumps etc.

    Guy in a Toyota hatchback came up behind me as approached this section, me doing around 30kph.

    Just as I was getting near to where you slow and stop if necessary, his patience runs out and he overtakes me.

    At that moment, as anyone with 2 brain cells could predict might happen, a car comes around the bend exiting the one way bit and our genius has to hastily move back in in front of me while the other car had to stop dead to avoid a head on collision.

    Our genius then goes for gold and charges on through the one-way section with another car already on its way through from the other side. The driver of that other car also has to stop dead in the middle of the section while our genius drives up on the footpath and around them and flies off.

    Are they giving driving licences on the back of cereal packets these days ?


  • #3269
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Abject self-importance, no more.

    We're all guilty of it, some manage it better than others.


  • #3270
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Effects wrote: »
    Three close passes today. I was driving.
    i was out in the car the other day and the level of bad driving was horrendous. coming onto the M50, a woman in a beemer could not wait to slip in behind me, and undertook me on the hard shoulder to get in front of me. and at the next junction (i only went one junction along), a lorry driver driving a large articulated flatbed indicated and pulled into my lane with me on the inside of him. i had to slam to avoid a collision.


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  • #3271
    riewomann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭riewomann


    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    Mother slightly out to the edge in a protective manner (we've all done it).

    I've being noticing where a parent and child are cycling, the child will be in the cycle lane as normal and the parent cycling parallel to them in the traffic lane.

    I appreciate their will to protect their child, although by cycling in the traffic lane they are holding up traffic. Even where it is a mandatory cycle lane.

    This type of behaviour will only create further animosity amongst some motorists for cyclists. Surely if your child is ready to cycle then let them cycle, or if not take them off the primary routes where traffic is whizzing by.

    I love cycling as much as the next person, but the optics of this are terrible. Its a big two fingers to everyone else and reeks of a "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".

    Rant over.


  • #3272
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    'mandatory cycle lane' does not mean mandatory for cyclists, FWIW.
    the dutch have a nickname for cycle lanes which are nothing more than a line of paint; they call them murder strips.


  • #3273
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    riewomann wrote: »
    I love cycling as much as the next person, but the optics of this are terrible. Its a big two fingers to everyone else and reeks of a "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".

    Rant over.

    Makes a change from the "I and my car are the most importantest person ever, get out of my way" attitude that is so prevalent on Irish roads.


  • #3274
    buffalo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    riewomann wrote: »
    I love cycling as much as the next person, but the optics of this are terrible. Its a big two fingers to everyone else and reeks of a "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".

    I think it reeks of "I know this strip of paint won't protect my child from drivers who refuse or don't know how to share the road, so I will".


  • #3275
    riewomann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭riewomann


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    the dutch have a nickname for cycle lanes which are nothing more than a line of paint; they call them murder strips.

    Right a bit sensationalist then.

    Cycling in both the cycle lane and then in the traffic lane has the further issue of when another cyclist (capable of cycling without a chaperone) needs to overtake, they have to overtake the two of them and go right over close to the approcahing traffic.

    I'm assuming the reason they are "protecting" their child is both concern their little angel might make a mistake and weave out of the cycle lane, and to make them very visible to the traffic behind. I can see this problem getting worse and worse, there are already motorists who treat cyclists with contempt and this kind of behaviour will only serve to increase this.

    Probably the wrong forum to bring this up in.

    After being out of the city since March last year the standard of cycling seems to have gotten far worse in the city. As usual it's probably only 1% of cyclists but they are the most visible (like the minority of reckless motorists).


  • #3276
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    riewomann wrote: »
    I've being noticing where a parent and child are cycling, the child will be in the cycle lane as normal and the parent cycling parallel to them in the traffic lane.
    The parent obviously recognises that cycle lanes aren't safe and offer no protection to the occupants.
    Maybe both of them should occupy the driving lane, taking Primary Position as recommended by the RSA.
    riewomann wrote: »
    I appreciate their will to protect their child, although by cycling in the traffic lane they are holding up traffic. Even where it is a mandatory cycle lane.
    A person on a bike is part of traffic according to the law. They are not really holding up drivers, no more than drivers hold up cyclists in town and city centres.
    riewomann wrote: »
    This type of behaviour will only create further animosity amongst some motorists for cyclists. Surely if your child is ready to cycle then let them cycle, or if not take them off the primary routes where traffic is whizzing by.
    If a motorist takes offence at a parent protecting their child then there is something seriously wrong with that person! In terms of the primary routes, there may be no alternative for them.
    The roads are for everyone, not just impatient drivers.
    riewomann wrote: »
    I love cycling as much as the next person, but the optics of this are terrible. Its a big two fingers to everyone else and reeks of a "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".
    I agree. It highlights the entitled attitude out there amongst some road users that they are more important than a vulnerable person travelling more slowly.
    It might be best for everyone if their driving privilege was revoked.


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  • #3277
    Dowee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Dowee


    riewomann wrote: »
    I've being noticing where a parent and child are cycling, the child will be in the cycle lane as normal and the parent cycling parallel to them in the traffic lane.

    I appreciate their will to protect their child, although by cycling in the traffic lane they are holding up traffic. Even where it is a mandatory cycle lane.

    This type of behaviour will only create further animosity amongst some motorists for cyclists. Surely if your child is ready to cycle then let them cycle, or if not take them off the primary routes where traffic is whizzing by.

    I love cycling as much as the next person, but the optics of this are terrible. Its a big two fingers to everyone else and reeks of a "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".

    Rant over.

    So many things wrong with this.

    1. Cycling two abreast: Perfectly Legal.
    2. Cycling in manner to protect a less experience, vulnerable road user from impatient idiots in cars who will do everything and anything to get in front: Good and sensible parenting, most likely as a result of a number of previous bad experiences with poor drivers.
    3. Mandatory cycle lane: This means cars can't drive or park in it. Not that people on bikes must use it. The legal requirement for people on bikes to use them was removed years ago because many are unsafe and not fit for purpose.
    4. Inconveniencing 100's of people: Really? There were approx 50 - 100 cars behind this parent and child?
    5. Having a spin: Cycling is also a means of transport. It is not all about "having a spin". I regularly cycle to places (sports training, the shops etc) with my kids.
    6. "the optics of this are terrible": It's not about optics, it's about sharing the road with more vulnerable road users. Sadly, in my experience people in cars are extremely impatient and are more than happy to endanger people on bikes just to get to the next red light 2 seconds faster and frankly that seems like exactly what the situation was here.

    The roads are for people, not for cars. When on the roads you will sometimes meet slower moving vehicles / people. Suck it up and act accordingly. If you get delayed for 30 seconds behind a parent and child on a bike it isn't the end of the world.

    Rant over too!


  • #3278
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    riewomann wrote: »
    "my child is the most important thing in the world, so if I have to incenvenience hundreds of people for them to have a spin, then so be it".

    Rant over.

    That's exactly what i think to my self when i'm closed passed by an Audi Q7 travelling at 100kph, with a "Baby on Board" sticker on the back window!


  • #3279
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    riewomann wrote: »
    Probably the wrong forum to bring this up in.
    probably the wrong thread anyway, there's no mention of a near miss here.
    back on topic please folks; this has the clear potential of just being a lot of back and forth generating heat and not much light

    i'll be deleting any continuation of this without further comment/warning.


  • #3280
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    (nothing to do with me)

    https://twitter.com/KevSheedy/status/1392869875022970889


  • #3281
    Mundo7976
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    https://maps.app.goo.gl/gg8jN4Lc6M1ZQTEL7

    There a brand spanking new, cant miss it, red tarred cycle lane on this road. Yesterday a woman turned left without as much as a glance to her right. Thankfully the approaching teen on his bike could read what was happening and managed to get around behind her. Fcuking ridiculous how no-one is paying attention to the bike lanes around Ashbourne, it would make you fearful.


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  • #3282
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    The ones on the main street are great! (for collecting a takeaway, nipping to the ATM, delivering to businesses...)


  • #3283
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Dowee wrote: »

    So many things wrong with this.

    1. Cycling two abreast: Perfectly Legal.

    Anyone complaining about cycling 2 abreast is saying that they believe cyclists should cycle in the gutter so they can be passed without a proper overtaking manouver. I also fail to understand how they think 2 cyclists in single file is easier to overtake than 2 abreast.


  • #3284
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Lost for words...

    https://twitter.com/MacL0ve/status/1393476274224603138?s=19


  • #3285
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    thankfully a garda saw it.


  • #3286
    Reality_Check1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Reality_Check1


    Had a very pleasant interaction yesterday on my spin that I thought I would share. There is about 2km of road beside my house from the local town that really unpleasant to cycle on - lots of turns and is narrow enough - if someone decides to pass you its nearly always dangerous. I hate cycling on it and do so only out of necessity.

    As I was just starting into it I notice a heavy lorry behind me. ****ing great I thought and I was tensing up for the inevitable close pass but.....it never came. He was happy to sit behind me at 30ish km an hour and gave me plenty of space. I nearly didn't know what to do with this :o Anyway after about a km or so I pulled into a drive way to let him pass and he gave me a happy beep and on he went. Cant say some of the cars behind him felt the same but can't win them all!


  • #3287
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Well I had a nice 2 hour spin Clogherhead direction but then came home through drogheda.

    Christ.

    A woman threw open passanger door of car in my face.

    Another genius changed into my lane without indicating and caused me to slam on.

    And finally I got green light an as myself and car behind took off 2 broke the red light.


  • #3288
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe I'm not remembering what it was like pre-covid but to me the traffic around town seems to be worse now than pre-covid the tailback on Donore Rd yesterday and at John's shop on the Platin Rd were unreal. Don't recall them being as bad as that. Donore Rd usually backs up on the way in for evening rush but it was backed up in both directions from about 2pm yesterday.

    Great on the bike though you sail passed the whole mess then you get a bus driver trying to get out of the station at the bottom trying to bully his way out as I approach and ends up blocking the lane and the footpath for a woman with small kids and a buggy. She wasn't shy about telling him to reverse, although she used slightly stronger language :D


  • #3289
    TallGlass2
    Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭TallGlass2


    Good camera system for the push bike?


  • #3290
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Maybe I'm not remembering what it was like pre-covid but to me the traffic around town seems to be worse now than pre-covid the tailback on Donore Rd yesterday and at John's shop on the Platin Rd were unreal. Don't recall them being as bad as that. Donore Rd usually backs up on the way in for evening rush but it was backed up in both directions from about 2pm yesterday.

    Great on the bike though you sail passed the whole mess then you get a bus driver trying to get out of the station at the bottom trying to bully his way out as I approach and ends up blocking the lane and the footpath for a woman with small kids and a buggy. She wasn't shy about telling him to reverse, although she used slightly stronger language :D

    I notice the Dublin Road is crazy at 3.30/4.00pm, backed up nearly to The Black Bull, bad at lunch time as well.


  • #3291
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    I notice the Dublin Road is crazy at 3.30/4.00pm, backed up nearly to The Black Bull, bad at lunch time as well.

    Herself is usually heading home along there in the evenings or mid afternoon and reckons it's busier there too.


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  • #3292
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,459 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    TallGlass2 wrote: »
    Good camera system for the push bike?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114345374

    Few older threads around too


  • #3293
    riewomann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭riewomann


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Anyone complaining about cycling 2 abreast is saying that they believe cyclists should cycle in the gutter so they can be passed without a proper overtaking manouver. I also fail to understand how they think 2 cyclists in single file is easier to overtake than 2 abreast.

    Where there is a cycle lane, one can pass a cyclist safely despite oncoming traffic as no lane change is necessary. ie cyclist in cycle lane does not affect traffic in regular lane.

    Where there is a cyclist in the cycle lane and another cyclist cycling in the traffic lane, one then cannot proceed unness the oncoming traffic lane is clear as you essentially have a cyclist using the regular lane who needs to be overtaken.

    I take your point that if it was a regular traffic lane it wouldn't make much difference if it was one or two abreast as the oncoming lane would need to be clear either way (it does make a small difference in time taken to complete the overtake).

    I know it is complicated, but it may help to read the post you are commenting on.


  • #3294
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    riewomann wrote: »
    Where there is a cycle lane, one can pass a cyclist safely despite oncoming traffic as no lane change is necessary. ie cyclist in cycle lane does not affect traffic in regular lane.

    Where there is a cyclist in the cycle lane and another cyclist cycling in the traffic lane, one then cannot proceed unless the oncoming traffic lane is clear as you essentially have a cyclist using the regular lane who needs to be overtaken.

    How wide is this "Regular Lane"? it must be very, very narrow? I've often overtaken two cyclists cycling two abreast without having to enter the oncoming lane?


  • #3295
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    riewomann wrote: »
    Where there is a cycle lane, one can pass a cyclist safely despite oncoming traffic as no lane change is necessary. ie cyclist in cycle lane does not affect traffic in regular lane.

    This is not the case more often than it is, but sadly many motorists, you included, seem to think that as long as there is a painted line between them and the cyclist it’s safe to pass.


  • #3296
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    riewomann wrote: »
    Where there is a cycle lane, one can pass a cyclist safely despite oncoming traffic as no lane change is necessary. ie cyclist in cycle lane does not affect traffic in regular lane.

    Where there is a cyclist in the cycle lane and another cyclist cycling in the traffic lane, one then cannot proceed unness the oncoming traffic lane is clear as you essentially have a cyclist using the regular lane who needs to be overtaken.

    I take your point that if it was a regular traffic lane it wouldn't make much difference if it was one or two abreast as the oncoming lane would need to be clear either way (it does make a small difference in time taken to complete the overtake).

    I know it is complicated, but it may help to read the post you are commenting on.
    Since when do people not need to know the Rules of the Road in order to pass the test?


  • #3297
    riewomann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭riewomann


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    This is not the case more often than it is, but sadly many motorists, you included, seem to think that as long as there is a painted line between them and the cyclist it’s safe to pass.

    Congratulations on fulfilling the entitled cyclist stereotype in a record no of characters.


  • #3298
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    riewomann wrote: »
    Congratulations on fulfilling the entitled cyclist stereotype in a record no of characters.
    Congratulation on fulfulling the ill-informed self-entitled driver stereotype in a not so-record number of posts :rolleyes:


  • #3299
    riewomann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭riewomann


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Congratulation on fulfulling the ill-informed self-entitled driver stereotype in a not so-record number of posts :rolleyes:

    Thank you.

    I am also a cyclist and so am more informed and knowledgeable than others.

    Please edit your post accordingly.


  • #3300
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    riewomann wrote: »
    I am also a cyclist

    Seems to form part of the homicidal driver's briefcase these days.


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  • #3301
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    riewomann wrote: »
    Thank you.
    You're welcome :)
    riewomann wrote: »
    I am also a cyclist and so am more informed and knowledgeable than others.
    Funny thing is, I don't believe you. You seem to think a parent cycling in a position that will protect their child is not a good idea because drivers might get held up. You now come out with some nonsense about overtaking which is all wrong.
    I'm not seeing the informed and knowledgeable bit in your posts to be honest!
    riewomann wrote: »
    Please edit your post accordingly.
    No! You're not my mother!


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