Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

sonnybill wrote: »

Big calves and dopey as hell

Sure it'll all be worth it when you're selling him!!!

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

He looks a fine calf

sonnybill wrote: »

He well able to suck now

he's got some timber under him, a great sign.

Put up a picture in a month and see how he goes.

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Anyone here have a price list for Bova straws? Thinking of getting a few straws off Loyal Lm4184. Seen some stock off him and and I think he’d be a great match to a few heifers I have for the bull in a months time.

10 Euro for loyal and gamin also 10 and if you buy 20 get 5 extra free, have found them over the years very easy to deal with and calls a bull exactly what he is and no big talk up.

What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?

I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

According to the price list i got a few weeks ago that deal does apply to ZGM.

tanko wrote: »

What are the Loyal calves like, what type of cows or heifers would he suit?

Very sweet, not to powerful that you'd be afraid to bull the Heifers. Something with a bit of size and a little bit of shape is best. Very easy calving bull with a bit of milk.

Gamin can be used on large plain type heifers too. He brings very good muscle and a whopping top. If used on a powerful cow would bring savage good stock. Not much milk so would need a bit in the cow if looking for a replacement.

Laurel is for mature cows and brings a good size calf with length. Will add a touch of muscle but not extreme. Not sure about milk yet. I've a nice heifer calf from him so be interesting to see how she matures.

Excel is a really nice bull on a good size cow with a bit of muscle. Might not have much milk so would need some in the cow if looking for replacements also. Brings really nice correct and feminine females.

Dubai is one of the most underrated bulls in the country IMO, brings good size, easy calving and just enough shape to make a good cow. Plenty of milk.

Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.

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Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

..... Everyone is different, I like a rawer type cow with milk and size and I can go as extreme as I like on her iykwim. I found them sound to deal with.

Ya agree. If you have a smaller muscley type cow, she has to be a great calver to add any sized bull to her. You always have the added worry then about calving her.

A few days ago. I ended up getting them in Excel instead.

tanko wrote: »

Did you get any Simmentals, i see they have a few new ones.

No, omly wanted straws for the pedigrees. I've enough now for years.

Just noticed today that the top of one of my straws popped off, 2/3mm. It would have to be an expensive straw that can't be got anymore. What's the chance of it being viable?

RD10 wrote: »

Anyone using the sim bull frosty king?
Have had 2 calves born to him over last 2 days . Great calves.

Got a few straws off him last year, havent used any yet. Have used his full brother Clonagh Direct Debit (XCD) a fair bit, nice calves off him.
Have a few Derreen Declan calves this year, looking good so far.
What is Frosty king like for calving, are they big calves, much muscle and shape to them?

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Just noticed today that the top of one of my straws popped off, 2/3mm. It would have to be an expensive straw that can't be got anymore. What's the chance of it being viable?

The straw is fine. The trick though is thawing it when you want to use it.
You can’t drop it in to water because the water will get inside and nothing kills sperm faster than water.
You’ll have to hold it in the water with the tweezers without letting the open end drop below the waterline

My apologies. I actually got the extra 5 free straws from Bova AI in Gamin (ZGM). So the offer does apply to him. My mistake. Just glanced at the invoice there.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I ordered straws from Bova recently. The buy 20, get 5 free doesn't apply to Gamin (ZGM). Just to be aware of that. Also their royalty fees are pricey enough for pedigree stock. Straws are very reasonable though.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Lads, I specifically asked for my extra straws to be Gamin, but I was told the deal didn't apply to him.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

A few days ago. I ended up getting them in Excel instead.

High bike wrote: »

Did you say last year you had something to calve down to Lodge Hamlet Patsy, just wondering what they were like.Or anyone else with calves by him

Have one PB bull calve by him, off a heifer. Calved away no bother. Small calf but still a nice square shape to him. Calf is dead calm too. Fine shortish straight hair on him too, unusual for a Lim. Happy with him, but hard to tell with just one calf. Went 291 days.

High bike wrote: »

Put him in an Altea heifer last week, she has good size to her will be calving at 30 months so should be ok so

Ya, should be ok, altea being easy calving too.

Dovea have a Limousin breeder working for them. He breeds good stock himself and I have a feeling he has a say in which bulls to buy. They have an impressive lineup of Limousin bulls now.