Spider-Man: Far From Home [ SPOILERS FROM POST 240 ]

RedRochey · 06-05-2019 3:13pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

One line in that trailer and they have made absolutely anything possible going forward in the franchise

Hopefully all that stops with the end of Phase 4

Mitch Connor · 06-05-2019 3:13pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

One line in that trailer and they have made absolutely anything possible going forward in the franchise

Put x men on multiverse something else.

Baggly · 06-05-2019 3:19pm

yeah but it's mysterio. Anything and everything he says does or is involved in could be an illusion.

Mitch Connor · 06-05-2019 3:23pm

Pter wrote: »

yeah but it's mysterio. Anything and everything he says does or is involved in could be an illusion.

Indeed but it would tie in to the plot of end game.

Baggly · 06-05-2019 3:26pm

Mitch Connor wrote:

Indeed but it would tie in to the plot of end game.

And if I were mysterio I'd be using that to my advantage.

The White Wolf · 06-05-2019 3:35pm

Hmmmmm.......don't know how to take that trailer. Not like them to give so much away or maybe they just want to get fans excited.

pjohnson · 06-05-2019 3:44pm

Pter wrote: »

yeah but it's mysterio. Anything and everything he says does or is involved in could be an illusion.

That was my take aswell. He can now crank his tricks up to 11.

Slydice · 06-05-2019 3:51pm

The Theme Tune!

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 06-05-2019 3:53pm

I cant help but think that there are still going to be some knuckle draggers who are convinced this movie takes place pre snap :rolleyes:

Mitch Connor · 06-05-2019 3:56pm

Janiyah Slow Sun wrote: »

I cant help but think that there are still going to be some knuckle draggers who are convinced this movie takes place pre snap :rolleyes:

How charming. What a nice fellow you are.

Zero-Cool · 06-05-2019 3:57pm

I said I wouldn't watch it. I watched it. I'm weak

I don't like the sound of

multiverse

but I'm not about to lose faith in Marvel/Disney.

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 4:02pm

Janiyah Slow Sun wrote: »

I cant help but think that there are still going to be some knuckle draggers who are convinced this movie takes place pre snap :rolleyes:

But, but it takes place before Infinity War, that's why they're on the bus coming back :pac:

Even though it's set 5 years later, right off the heels of Endgame.

Slydice · 06-05-2019 4:02pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Marvel/Disney.

This is Sony.. in collab with Marvel/Disney

From what I know, it seems that Marvel/Disney asked Sony to change the logo to "Marvel Studios" in the films they are involved in

Zero-Cool · 06-05-2019 4:12pm

Slydice wrote: »

This is Sony.. in collab with Marvel/Disney

From what I know, it seems that Marvel/Disney asked Sony to change the logo to "Marvel Studios" in the films they are involved in

Aaaaahhhh I forgot Sony were still running the show. Bollox anyway.

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 5:56pm

Does the trailer explain why they are all the same age?

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 6:02pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I said I wouldn't watch it. I watched it. I'm weak

I don't like the sound of
multiverse
but I'm not about to lose faith in Marvel/Disney.

Ah lads, surly we don’t have use spoiler tags for the trailer. I mean if you want to avoid spoilers that include promotional material, don’t come onto the forum.

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 6:03pm

kerplun k wrote: »

Does the trailer explain why they are all the same age?

Endgame explains it

kerplun k wrote: »

Ah lads, surly we don’t have use spoiler tags for the trailer. I mean if you want to avoid spoilers that include promotional material, don’t come onto the forum.

Also spoilers due to Endgame..

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 6:14pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Endgame explains it

Did it.

Endgame only said life went on, others came back the same age, so all the main players in this were coincidentally snapped? Is that how they are explaining this?

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Also spoilers due to Endgame..

I mean is the word

multiverse

, technically an endgame spoiler? I don’t think it is. Okay you could argue that the

multiverse is a consequence of endgame,

but openly taking about a

multiverse

In relation to FFH, without mentioning endgame, shouldn’t require spoiler tags?

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 6:31pm

kerplun k wrote: »

Did it.
Endgame only said life went on, others came back the same age, so all the main players in this were coincidentally snapped? Is that how they are explaining this?

I mean is the word
multiverse
, technically an endgame spoiler? I don’t think it is. Okay you could argue that the
multiverse is a consequence of endgame,
but openly taking about a
multiverse
In relation to FFH, without mentioning endgame, shouldn’t require spoiler tags?

Spoilers for Endgame.
There was a

5 year time jump in Endgame

, Far From Home is set minutes after it,

also Doctor Strange's 1 in 14,000,605 plan came to fruition with Tony sacrificing himself in the ultimate heroic act

Well if you consider

it a ripple effect of time travel

in Endgame, then yes multiverse would be kinda spoilery

Goodshape · 06-05-2019 6:40pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Spoilers for Endgame.
There was a
5 year time jump in Endgame
, Far From Home is set minutes after it

Right, but

were 100% of the cast of Spider-man Homecoming 'snapped' in Infinity War? Because none of them seem to have aged in five years and they're all the same age as each other.

horgan_p · 06-05-2019 6:41pm

Did they change Nick Fury's first line to Peter from the last trailer to this one ?

Sad Professor · 06-05-2019 6:45pm

Should I add a spoiler warning for Endgame to the thread title? Seems like there's going to be a lot of overlap in the discussion.

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 6:47pm

Goodshape wrote: »

Right, but
were 100% of the cast of Spider-man Homecoming 'snapped' in Infinity War? Because none of them seem to have aged in five years and they're all the same age as each other.

I presume they were,

cause when Ned sees Peter in high school after they've been resurrected, he looked shocked mixed with surprise seeing Peter

RobbingBandit · 06-05-2019 6:51pm

Really thought given the title this was gonna be a bridge of the snap between infinity war and endgame showcasing the heroes snapped and where they went.

Still looking forward to it but ah a boy can dream.

Zero-Cool · 06-05-2019 6:55pm

I spoilered

multiverse

as yanks have an awful problem of showing too much in ads and just because someone might not want to discuss the ads, they might still want to talk about the film here even if they avoid all pre info on the film.

Interested to hear from a mod, is all info from ads fair game to talk about or should we still spoiler bits based on our judgement?

I think Endgame would be fair game to talk about now without spoilers, maybe add to title thread 'Endgame spoilers from post xxx' ?

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 6:57pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I spoilered
multiverse
as yanks have an awful problem of showing too much in ads and just because someone might not want to discuss the ads, they might still want to talk about the film here even if they avoid all pre info on the film.

Interested to hear from a mod, is all info from ads fair game to talk about or should we still spoiler bits based on our judgement?

I think Endgame would be fair game to talk about now without spoilers, maybe add to title thread 'Endgame spoilers from post xxx' ?

Spoilers onwards from whatever post # the trailer was.

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 7:07pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I presume they were,
cause when Ned sees Peter in high school after they've been resurrected, he looked shocked mixed with surprise seeing Peter

But not just Peter and Ned, MJ, Flash, Betty and Liz were all snapped too. I’ll say it again, that’s some coincidence.

RedRochey · 06-05-2019 7:13pm

Being honest I'm happy to live with the major coincidence, like I want to see a spider-man movie, not a follow on from Endgame with all these technicalities

Sad Professor · 06-05-2019 7:14pm

Okay, I'll add a spoiler warning for Endgame now.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I spoilered
multiverse
as yanks have an awful problem of showing too much in ads and just because someone might not want to discuss the ads, they might still want to talk about the film here even if they avoid all pre info on the film.

Interested to hear from a mod, is all info from ads fair game to talk about or should we still spoiler bits based on our judgement?

Afaic, yes, trailers are fair game and it should go without saying that they can be discussed without tags. With big films like this there really isn't much else to talk about until they are released, so spoiler tagging everything just isn't practical.

Mitch Connor · 06-05-2019 7:16pm

StockTwat29 wrote: »

Being honest I'm happy to live with the major coincidence, like I want to see a spider-man movie, not a follow on from Endgame with all these technicalities

Would have been neat to have flash not snapped, age him up, and position him towards hatred of Peter gets to live like nothing happened.

Sad Professor · 06-05-2019 7:18pm

!!! WARNING !!!

Spoilers for Avengers Endgame from this post onward. If if you haven't seen Endgame yet, stop reading unless you want to be spoiled. Spoiler tags for Endgame's plot will not be used from this post onward.

Varik · 06-05-2019 7:21pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Would have been neat to have flash not snapped, age him up, and position him towards hatred of Peter gets to live like nothing happened.

Don't think he cares about peter that much, to focus any such feeling on him alone.

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 7:22pm

StockTwat29 wrote: »

Being honest I'm happy to live with the major coincidence, like I want to see a spider-man movie, not a follow on from Endgame with all these technicalities

Well given that it is the final film in Phase 3, they had to touch on the fallout from Endgame (given Peter & Tony's bond, and how Tony's death will affect Peter) while somehow setting up the next few years plot wise.

pixelburp · 06-05-2019 7:33pm

Not on board; notwithstanding the Endgame element looks like they've really "On The Bus"ed the sequel, sending a quintessentially New York superhero on holiday for the sake of newer, bigger locations. I don't want to see Spider-Man swinging around generic, cliché Euro-destinations.

IIRC a comics run actually ran with the idea of Parker becoming a tech / industry bigwig, but more when he's older so this may be the direction they go in?

And presuming Mysterio is playing an act, conning our heroes for nefarious later purposes

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 7:38pm

The brief bit of exposition confirming the multiverse is a very odd inclusion. I wonder if this is Sony covering themselves in case they want to use Spiderman in separate films outside the MCU like Venom and Morbius. I’m also interested to know what the current state of the original deal between Sony and Marvel is. AFAIK, it was 3 films, plus Civi War and Avengers so I’m curious what happens after that deal is complete.

Zero-Cool · 06-05-2019 7:39pm

Thanks Professor.

So Multiverse.... That can get very messy, I hope they have a solid plan in place. Actually hoping it's just a Mysterio spoof.

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 7:44pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Thanks Professor.

So Multiverse.... That can get very messy, I hope they have a solid plan in place. Actually hoping it's just a Mysterio spoof.

Yep, I’m not buying this Mysterio nice guy act.

RedRochey · 06-05-2019 8:01pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Well given that it is the final film in Phase 3, they had to touch on the fallout from Endgame (given Peter & Tony's bond, and how Tony's death will affect Peter) while somehow setting up the next few years plot wise.

Ya that stuff I'm OK with as it's easily managed but for example if MJ didn't get snapped and now is 5 years older and not in school so not in the movie, that would have been such a waste, so I'm happy for everyone to blindly assume they all got snapped.

Wonder why spiderman changes back into his old suit later in the trailer

pixelburp · 06-05-2019 8:23pm

kerplun k wrote: »

Yep, I’m not buying this Mysterio nice guy act.

It's 90% certain to be an act, Mysterio's whole thing is deception and illusion; I think they're going to go for an angle of Parker trying to find a new father figure, only to have him betray that trust.

FunLover18 · 06-05-2019 8:24pm

kerplun k wrote: »

But not just Peter and Ned, MJ, Flash, Betty and Liz were all snapped too. I’ll say it again, that’s some coincidence.

Half the population got snapped, I don't think it's a massive coincidence out of the millions of people snapped 5/6 of them happened to be in the same class.

Mitch Connor · 06-05-2019 8:32pm

Varik wrote: »

Don't think he cares about peter that much, to focus any such feeling on him alone.

Yeah, but you'd think writers would be able to work something up and flash Thompson being that bit older and becoming an eventual enemy would make more sense than 16 year old flash.

pah · 06-05-2019 10:25pm

kerplun k wrote: »

But not just Peter and Ned, MJ, Flash, Betty and Liz were all snapped too. I’ll say it again, that’s some coincidence.

Same coincidence as the OG Avengers surviving the snap. I can live with it. Besides, the multiverse implies that any and all outcomes are possible, just so happens we're watching the one where all the friends got snapped.

kerplun k · 06-05-2019 11:16pm

pah wrote: »

Same coincidence as the OG Avengers surviving the snap. I can live with it. Besides, the multiverse implies that any and all outcomes are possible, just so happens we're watching the one where all the friends got snapped.

Hmmm, after some discussion on here I’m not fully sure about the multiverse. I think the trailer has achieved its purpose and has sold me. I’m also bit more curious about Mysterio now.

As far as the age thing goes, I’m happy to go with “they were all snapped” explanation but only If it’s acknowledged that’s what happened, and it’s not just swept under the rug. The MCU have committed to this 5 year gap thing, it’s a big deal and should have consequences.

pixelburp · 06-05-2019 11:23pm

I'll make another 90% confidence claim that we'll get lip service and that's it. There's no way the brain trust thought hard enough about this five year bump; the more you think and dig, the less sense it makes, and the darker and more harrowing it becomes. I haven't seen narrative hand waving this blatant outside of stuff like the CW Flash show.

RedRochey · 06-05-2019 11:51pm

Remember that the first spiderman movie had the major mess of "8 years later" which made no sense to anyone, dunno if this is the same team but they could just not care about timelines

kerplun k · 07-05-2019 12:06am

pixelburp wrote: »

I'll make another 90% confidence claim that we'll get lip service and that's it. There's no way the brain trust thought hard enough about this five year bump; the more you think and dig, the less sense it makes, and the darker and more harrowing it becomes. I haven't seen narrative hand waving this blatant outside of stuff like the CW Flash show.

Oh, I think it would it be a huge cop out to do something like that and then not have a plan, even worse if they tried to just sweep the whole thing under the rug.

The upcoming sequels have somewhat covered themselves with most of the GOTG getting snapped. You don’t need to do a whole lot with Rocket, Gamora and Nebula to show an age difference, same with Black Panther, it’s not that much of an effort to show Okoye as 5 years older,

But in regards to any new installments I’d expect the events of Endgame to be woven into the narrative, I mean, having half the population disappear, and come back 5 years later with the same age as they left is a pretty big fricken deal, so much so, I’d lose ALL credibility for the MCU if they didn’t address it, and actually tried to ignore something like that.

I guess we’ll get a flavor of what direction they plan on going with FFH.

Cookie_Monster · 07-05-2019 12:57am

kerplun k wrote: »

As far as the age thing goes, I’m happy to go with “they were all snapped” explanation but only If it’s acknowledged that’s what happened, and it’s not just swept under the rug. The MCU have committed to this 5 year gap thing, it’s a big deal and should have consequences.

exactly it should but it doesn't IMO. So even if they all got snapped, unlikely, but anyway, everyone can jet set off to Europe like no snap ever happened and everywhere is all good these days only a short period after the events of endgame? Said it in Endgame thread and will say it here, what about food production, being able to cope with both the disappearance and the reversal etc. There is no way everything in Europe is just hunky-dory like it is today and in that trailer.

The 5 year gap is such a massive mistake in the MCU as they can never hope to even remotely get the consequences to be meaningful.

Mitch Connor · 07-05-2019 7:06am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

exactly it should but it doesn't IMO. So even if they all got snapped, unlikely, but anyway, everyone can jet set off to Europe like no snap ever happened and everywhere is all good these days only a short period after the events of endgame? Said it in Endgame thread and will say it here, what about food production, being able to cope with both the disappearance and the reversal etc. There is no way everything in Europe is just hunky-dory like it is today and in that trailer.

The 5 year gap is such a massive mistake in the MCU as they can never hope to even remotely get the consequences to be meaningful.

1. Dealing fully with the consequences would be boring as f.
2. It's two weeks. No movie has come out yet. You've seen nothing. Your criticism is based purely on speculation.

A massive mistake. Based on nothing.

pixelburp · 07-05-2019 8:59am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

1. Dealing fully with the consequences would be boring as f.
2. It's two weeks. No movie has come out yet. You've seen nothing. Your criticism is based purely on speculation.

A massive mistake. Based on nothing.

Endgame blew up the world, and made the biggest, most structurally and emotionally dramatic change to planet Earth imaginable but have had-waved it away past believability, even within that very movie. It was happy to talk about collapsed governments, show us group therapy sessions of broken people, and how much of a slum San Francisco suburbs had become; if this trailer's anything to go by, the world is shiny and functioning again (and apparently is only set months after the events of Endgame), basically pretending like 4-5 billion humans didn't just disappear for 5 years and effectively collapse civilisation.

The Russo's - well, the scripters - opened the can of worms, it's frustrating it appears like Stark's death is the most important thing here (much like Endgame where his daughter trumped the utterly f*cked up world they were living in)

Nope, the film's not out, you're right, but as said already - Endgame literally broke planet Earth. But ... ... Spider-Man on Euro Vacation! :rolleyes:

TheIrishGrover · 07-05-2019 10:45am

While I do agree that it is a bit of a cop out that so many of his peers were snapped: As well as his classmates also Aunt May, Happy etc. I would miss them had they been written out/changed. I enjoyed them immensely in the first one.

had Sony been in on the ground floor about what was gonna happen in Infinity then I bet they would have written in a couple of characters that you liked/didn't like that could have been not-snapped in this one.

However given the secrecy level (Especially as this is a total other studio) I would imagine that they were just out of the loop intentionally.

I am really looking forward to this though. The first was fun and this looks so too (For some reason yer man getting punched in the crotch makes me laugh. Every. Time.

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