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Lord Mayor of Dublin harassed at her home by protesters

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    #62
    ohnonotgmail
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    That's kind of the very definition of a home no?

    it is but you wouldn't think so with the number of posters saying it isn't her home.


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    #63
    mariaalice
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    I can't believe there is anyone who believes it is not far-right in Ireland they might be a tiny insignificant noisy group but they are there.


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    #64
    suicide_circus
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    Was it a violent protest?


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    #65
    ThunbergsAreGo
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    .anon. wrote: »
    Not condoning it (oh, no siree!), just downplaying it. As long as she is holder of the position, it's her home. I strongly doubt that these people would have had any moral issue with turning up at the house that she owns either, if she was actually residing there.

    As they did to Simon Harris (and I included in the link!)


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    #66
    biko
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Was it a violent protest?
    No, but it was uncomfortable for Hazel (her words).


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    dennispenn
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Was it a violent protest?
    somebody's feelings were hurt.


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    #68
    Invidious
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and for the year she is lord mayor she is living there with her family. that makes it her home. To suggest otherwise is to downplay what happened.

    Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

    Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.


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    #69
    dan1895
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    I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.


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    dan1895
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    Invidious wrote: »
    Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

    Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

    They are the leaders of the country not someone holding a ceremonial position. I'm also pretty sure that you can't walk up to the PM or president at the front door.


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    #71
    mariaalice
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    Invidious wrote: »
    Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

    Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

    Very disingenuous there was a lot about the dangers of extremists, especially after the Simon Harris incident.


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    ohnonotgmail
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    Invidious wrote: »
    Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

    Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

    you cannot protest on downing st or at the front door of the white house.


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    #73
    suicide_circus
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    If it was her and her husband's private house in suburbia i'd have a big problem with it but i feel there is a bit of a difference when it's a large and fairly ostentatious mansion owned by the state, the official residence which comes with her office, slap bang in the city centre.


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    Effects
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    If it was her and her husband's private house in suburbia i'd have a big problem with it but i feel there is a bit of a difference when it's a large and fairly ostentatious mansion owned by the state, the official residence which comes with her office, slap bang in the city centre.

    Again, it's her home. And no one has answered about why people are protesting at her residence/temporary mansion, about face masks.


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    #75
    Effects
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    robodonkey wrote: »
    "The word 'racism' is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything - and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.'"

    Thomas Sowell

    That goes both ways really. Racist posters on boards are always demanding 'evidence', then ignore it when it's presented.


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    #76
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    I agree that using "her home" instead of Mansion House is manipulative. Its the official and ceremonial residence of her position and that is obviously relevant.

    That said, it was wrong when people did this to Simon Harris and its wrong now.


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    #77
    riffmongous
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    Invidious wrote: »

    Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

    I can definitely remember a big Harris thread. And he was Minister for Health at the time, not some up-to-now barely noticed ceremonial role.


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    #78
    mariaalice
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    As a few have asked why would anti-mask protest target the Lord Mayor of Dublin? Has she something to do with the mask-wearing policy of the government.


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    #79
    CrazyFather1
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    You had someone posting on here last night saying the IRA shooting someone in the head is the same as a politician making a decision error in the response to COVID. This is Ireland 2020/21. Just read the pages of bile on any of the government threads with posters tripping over the other to make more and more disgusting comments
    What happens when they get bored of spewing it one the internet? then you start to see them showing up in person to events etc.
    I don't support the government and the sooner they move on the better but at the end of the day these are just people doing a job. Nothing else


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    riffmongous
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    dan1895 wrote: »
    I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.
    Effects wrote: »
    Again, it's her home. And no one has answered about why people are protesting at her residence/temporary mansion, about face masks.

    Going to be a long time waiting for an answer there lads


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    #81
    mariaalice
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    CrazyFather1 wrote: »
    You had someone posting on here last night saying the IRA shooting someone in the head is the same as a politician making a decision error in the response to COVID. This is Ireland 2020/21. Just read the pages of bile on any of the government threads with posters tripping over the other to make more and more disgusting comments
    What happens when they get bored of spewing it one the internet? then you start to see them showing up in person to events etc.
    I don't support the government and the sooner they move on the better but at the end of the day these are just people doing a job. Nothing else

    Boards is a great form of entertainment but very disappointed with what's allowed on some of the political threads here the same with the racists who get their say.

    I know it's almost impossible to moderate and there is the issue of free speech.


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    #82
    WrenBoy
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    dan1895 wrote: »
    I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.

    Who knows man, your expecting logic from this crowd. Im all for making your voice heard and not mollycoddling politicians but this one makes zero sense in terms of the demands and the the venue.
    I can only assume it was to gain publicity for the anti-mask movement, which has worked.


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    #83
    GarIT
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    Interesting that she complained about not being able to go out for lunch. If she could let us know where is open for lunch that would be great.

    Does seem a bit of a stupid protest.

    Protestors shouldn't touch or encircle anyone, especially these days.

    It's a bit different to protesting Simon Harris' home, but it's still wrong. Protesting where people live, home or house shouldn't be something we do here.

    She did put her foot in it when she called the killing of George a racist murder by Gardaí and saying it wouldn't have happened to a white person within an hour of the news breaking.


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    #84
    CrazyFather1
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    Boards is a great form of entertainment but very disappointed with what's allowed on some of the political threads here the same with the racists who get their say.

    I know it's almost impossible to moderate and there is the issue of free speech.

    Just look at the FF/FG thread now and you have someone accusing FG supporters of murdering a councillor. Nothing to back it up. This on the same page as saying the current TD's are the same as members of the IRA.
    How is that free speech?


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    #85
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    Effects wrote: »
    Again, it's her home.

    The White House is Joe Bidens home. No protesting allowed near that building then.


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    #86
    Beechwoodspark
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    Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door


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    #87
    touts
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    It is her home at the moment. The racists on here claiming it isn't because it is a state property are simply deflecting from the actions of their fellow racists.

    It is time the state got serious with groups like these. The idea that 30 could turn up and only one be arrested is unacceptable. All 30 of them should have been arrested. If they tried this stunt in France or most other EU nations they would have had their heads cracked by the riot squad and the ringleaders would have started a lengthy jail sentence already.


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    Beechwoodspark
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door

    Another thing is Ppl have long memories in this country - I’d say even in ten years time ppl will be reminding each other of Hazel chu’s tweets about the knife man


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    #89
    paw patrol
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    where did I suggest that? can you quote the post where i suggested that?

    when you were critical of the protests at "her home"

    but you say below.
    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    nothing odd about it. she lives there with her family. that makes it her home. a building can have multiple uses.

    does this not mean they cannot protest at the mansion house cos (you claim) it is her home.

    enlighten me then, when can they protest at the mansion in your opinion?


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    Tacitus Kilgore
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door

    For masks?


    "Ah we're not here cos we're racists, its... eh masks, yeah masks!"


    What does the lord mayor of Dublin have to do with public health advice? fuck all.


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    #91
    francois
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    Desperate spinning from the usual cohort. She currently resides at the Mansion House. It is her current home.


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