Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

delaval · 11-07-2013 8:42pm

slippy wicket wrote: »

GIIL milk price for June is 37.5cpl. This represents an increase of 0.5cpl on the base milk price.

I think I speak for us all when I say, mofo's

Very dissatisfied with 0.5c was expecting more. It will take us to 40c with solids, good price but more is better

jomoloney · 11-07-2013 9:06pm

delaval wrote: »

Very dissatisfied with 0.5c was expecting more. It will take us to 40c with solids, good price but more is better

still struggling with solids here, yields ok, but lack of rain bound to affect same shortly

red bull · 11-07-2013 10:08pm

when will arrabawn set price

mahoney_j · 11-07-2013 10:28pm

Next tuesday i think

red bull · 15-07-2013 1:23am

Any news on Arrabawn,strugling with solids

mahoney_j · 15-07-2013 9:54am

red bull wrote: »

Any news on Arrabawn,strugling with solids

Been set tomorrow,ok on solids yields starting to taper off a bit even though on excellent grass

loveta · 15-07-2013 9:04pm

Lakeland Dairies 37.5 for june milk @ 3.3pro, 3.6Bf

kevthegaff · 16-07-2013 11:51am

well lads any word on arrabawn, hoping for an increase to settle some bills:)

whelan1 · 16-07-2013 2:25pm

anyone else on agrilink, normally you can access your milk statement on 16th of the month, this month and last month you couldnt also new format milk statement post April 2012 doesnt work for me:mad:

red bull · 16-07-2013 5:38pm

arrabawn 37.75 I heard

delaval · 16-07-2013 5:44pm

whelan1 wrote: »

anyone else on agrilink, normally you can access your milk statement on 16th of the month, this month and last month you couldnt also new format milk statement post April 2012 doesnt work for me:mad:

Same here I rang milk manager and he emailed to me

mahoney_j · 16-07-2013 6:30pm

red bull wrote: »

arrabawn 37.75 I heard

Yep can confirm this up .75 cent a litre.supplies to end of June back .8 % on June 12 figure but supplies are considerably back in the last 10 days .

Mulumpy · 16-07-2013 6:54pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep can confirm this up .75 cent a litre.supplies to end of June back .8 % on June 12 figure but supplies are considerably back in the last 10 days .

No worries with quota so.

slippy wicket · 16-07-2013 8:02pm

whelan1 wrote: »

anyone else on agrilink, normally you can access your milk statement on 16th of the month, this month and last month you couldnt also new format milk statement post April 2012 doesnt work for me:mad:

Was just on it there, its working but not the most user friendly setup.

looking at it, it just goes to show how bad a deal the index linking was last year..
2012 indexed price is 31.41
man. price 37.44
vat credit 1.73

gross creamery 37.87

whelan1 · 16-07-2013 8:39pm

how did you get on to it????

delaval · 16-07-2013 10:27pm

Glabia base 37.5
Net price 40.97c
Fat 4.0%
Pro 3.55%

Mulumpy · 16-07-2013 11:41pm

delaval wrote: »

Glabia base 37.5
Net price 40.97c
Fat 4.0%
Pro 3.55%

Some serious results there Delaval. Shows what excellent grass management and reseeding can do. Ive a long way to go ere a lot of old pastures only slowly getting to reseed.

red bull · 17-07-2013 12:30am

delaval wrote: »

Glabia base 37.5
Net price 40.97c
Fat 4.0%
Pro 3.55%

Dad says in real money that would be £1.46 a gallon, about time for a right price considering you could get £1 a gallon for milk in the 80s when diesel was 25p per gal.
Could he be right ?

Timmaay · 17-07-2013 12:44am

red bull wrote: »

Dad says in real money that would be £1.46 a gallon, about time for a right price considering you could get £1 a gallon for milk in the 80s when diesel was 25p per gal.
Could he be right ?

Only if the EU quota system was actually a world quota, similar to OPEC! And even then, alot of the Irish diesel price increase is down to taxation. Still, I guess we are all in the wrong game :P

slippy wicket · 17-07-2013 8:56am

whelan1 wrote: »

how did you get on to it????

Sorry for delay getting back.
1st off it doesn't work on iPhone as I tried that and you can't scroll down.
When you click on it and put in your username and password again it gives a list and you click on the one you want.

blue5000 · 17-07-2013 9:49am

Just wondering what is going on behind the scenes at some co-ops. If I was a Wexford supplier I think I'd be very p1ssed off, highest solids in the country and a milk price that is ranked 9th.

Last week's comic has a bit of sober reading for dairy farmers on P18-19. An Arrabawn supplier who supplies 200,000 L of 'average solids' would be 9,680 euros worse off than a similiar 'average' Barryroe supplier. Even though the Barryroe supplier had lower fat (3.94 vs 3.96%) and there was only 0.01% higher protein in Barryroe.

If I was a Wexford supplier I think I'd be asking WTF is going on, they have had the highest fat and protein consistently, yet milk price is hovering in the bottom half of the table for the past few years.

I think on here we should be able to get to the bottom of this?

mf240 · 17-07-2013 10:06am

wexford are highly dependent on cheese.

Glanbia are taking them over.

jomoloney · 17-07-2013 10:14am

in my situation, the price per ltr isn't the issue just now, cost of production will be the biggest factor, lightest fields browning and no growth in remainder

@ delaval , 41 c/ltr ,,,,excellent return

will post mine to morrow or as soon as I get the returns.

jomoloney · 17-07-2013 10:18am

red bull wrote: »

Dad says in real money that would be £1.46 a gallon, about time for a right price considering you could get £1 a gallon for milk in the 80s when diesel was 25p per gal.
Could he be right ?

he's bang on

blue5000 · 17-07-2013 10:30am

red bull wrote: »

Dad says in real money that would be £1.46 a gallon, about time for a right price considering you could get £1 a gallon for milk in the 80s when diesel was 25p per gal.
Could he be right ?

Ya in autumn 86 with high solids, Don't forget fertilizer at £106 a ton and first cut silage cost under £50 an acre contractor cost. As a man said to me 'All you had to do to make money in the '80's was stand up':pac:

Our margin has been given away to supermarkets and processors.

freedominacup · 17-07-2013 10:39am

mf240 wrote: »

wexford are highly dependent on cheese.

They want Glanbia are taking to take them over.

Fixed that for you.

Glanbia aren't biting though.

Lofty0990 · 17-07-2013 10:43am

freedominacup wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Glanbia aren't biting though.

Watch this space mate.

delaval · 17-07-2013 10:59am

blue5000 wrote: »

Ya in autumn 86 with high solids, Don't forget fertilizer at £106 a ton and first cut silage cost under £50 an acre contractor cost. As a man said to me 'All you had to do to make money in the '80's was stand up':pac:

Our margin has been given away to supermarkets and processors.

The other side was that interest rates were in the teens with high tax and inflation. I personally never want a repeat of 80-89 again nearly broke us!!!!

freedominacup · 17-07-2013 11:19am

Lofty0990 wrote: »

Watch this space mate.

Glanbia aren't going to pay money end off. Why would they? Wexford folds they simply take on the suppliers they want for no cost simples. Wexford suppliers/shareholders think that the money they spent recently on an intake is worth something, it's not Glanbia have spent the past 15 years closing facilities like it. They don't need it and don't wantit.

nashmach · 17-07-2013 12:05pm

mf240 wrote: »

wexford are highly dependent on cheese.

Glanbia are taking them over.

Incorrect, Wexford have entered into a memo of understanding with Glanbia to discuss potential takeover/buyout/merger etc.

Nothing concrete in stone.

freedominacup wrote: »

Glanbia aren't going to pay money end off. Why would they? Wexford folds they simply take on the suppliers they want for no cost simples. Wexford suppliers/shareholders think that the money they spent recently on an intake is worth something, it's not Glanbia have spent the past 15 years closing facilities like it. They don't need it and don't wantit.

Firstly, I know nothing about milk.

But two things, brand names are worth money and Wexford have a name which is well established for cheese.

Also, in the summer months, Wexford currently process milk for Glanbia as they have surplus capacity.

Timmaay · 17-07-2013 12:12pm

delaval wrote: »

The other side was that interest rates were in the teens with high tax and inflation. I personally never want a repeat of 80-89 again nearly broke us!!!!

18% interest rate, and my parents had a mortgage out for the farm next door that almost doubled our landbase! They've warned me never to stretch myself as much as they did then!

freedominacup · 17-07-2013 7:09pm

nashmach wrote: »

Incorrect, Wexford have entered into a memo of understanding with Glanbia to discuss potential takeover/buyout/merger etc.

Nothing concrete in stone.

Firstly, I know nothing about milk.

But two things, brand names are worth money and Wexford have a name which is well established for cheese.

Also, in the summer months, Wexford currently process milk for Glanbia as they have surplus capacity.

Glanbia are currently sorting out that little problem just to the east of you. They aren't going to spend money on processing twice. In relation to brands look how little the Waterford Crystal brand cost when it all went curly. Glanbia don't need to get involved in any sort of costly and pointless takeover. All they have to do is wait.

milkprofit · 17-07-2013 7:43pm

Timmaay wrote: »

18% interest rate, and my parents had a mortgage out for the farm next door that almost doubled our landbase! They've warned me never to stretch myself as much as they did then!

My repayments went from 12.000 to 24.000 pounds / year ---never to be forgotten

delaval · 17-07-2013 8:37pm

milkprofit wrote: »

My repayments went from 12.000 to 24.000 pounds / year ---never to be forgotten

Eighties were great wern't they?:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I was away in school in the early 80's and faarming with my parents for the last few years, they were a great generation altogether:):):):) our parents not the 80's:(:(

whelan1 · 17-07-2013 9:06pm

slippy wicket wrote: »

Sorry for delay getting back.
1st off it doesn't work on iPhone as I tried that and you can't scroll down.
When you click on it and put in your username and password again it gives a list and you click on the one you want.

just got in there now, had to go back to my 2006 diary to get my password:rolleyes: normally just log on automatically, also couldnt see the place where i had to log on again:cool::cool: happy enough, penalty of 460 euro- which could have been alot worse- and got money for temporary leasing

Lofty0990 · 17-07-2013 10:42pm

freedominacup wrote: »

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Glanbia are currently sorting out that little problem just to the east of you. They aren't going to spend money on processing twice. In relation to brands look how little the Waterford Crystal brand cost when it all went curly. Glanbia don't need to get involved in any sort of costly and pointless takeover. All they have to do is wait.

Just as a matter of interest can we call "it " what "it" is GII , and out of same interest and given that it was created as a result of a (cough;)) vote are all GII suppliers happy that all issues are under control i.e. workers pensions etc .

freedominacup · 18-07-2013 1:12am

Lofty0990 wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest can we call "it " what "it" is GII , and out of same interest and given that it was created as a result of a (cough;)) vote are all GII suppliers happy that all issues are under control i.e. workers pensions etc .

Ask delaval and Tipp Man.;)

You're gonna start a row if you keep posting things like that.:eek:

bob charles · 18-07-2013 1:36am

my Dad always said that he couldnt borrow enough money in the 80's at 17%, :rolleyes: there was serious money to be made back then

red bull · 18-07-2013 1:44am

bob charles wrote: »

my Dad always said that he couldnt borrow enough money in the 80's at 17%, :rolleyes: there was serious money to be made back then

Well its looks like that to me, cheap feed ,fert, diesel, relatively cheap land. Problem was high interest rates but you could get a loan. Raised on a 60 acre farm, milked 30 cows but we all got an education as boarders

freedominacup · 18-07-2013 1:47am

bob charles wrote: »

my Dad always said that he couldnt borrow enough money in the 80's at 17%, :rolleyes: there was serious money to be made back then

The early 70's was when the real money was made esp by early adopters. My oul boy and his brothers were regularly getting 2.5 tonne spring barley crops and 3.5 to 4 tonne winter wheat crops back then. They were following the new agronomy advice, sprays fert etc. The rub was they were renting land for around half a tonne per acre and 50 tonne covered a mans wages for the year. On top of that they had the machinery for very low cost as they were running a vey profitable contracting business at the time which covered most of the machinery costs.

delaval · 18-07-2013 9:15pm

freedominacup wrote: »

Ask delaval and Tipp Man.;)

You're gonna start a row if you keep posting things like that.:eek:

I promise no row, unless you want one!!!

My view is that we achieved what I've wanted and that was to seperate milk processing from the PLC

Oh yea, it's GII

delaval · 18-07-2013 9:19pm

bob charles wrote: »

my Dad always said that he couldnt borrow enough money in the 80's at 17%, :rolleyes: there was serious money to be made back then

Mine borrowed early 70's and got going as Freedom's any many others did.
He borrowed for more land in 79 and true to type come hell or high water when interest rates rose the banks pulled the double barrell. He resisted and paid his way but it was a shocking time the eighties

whelan1 · 18-07-2013 9:20pm

delaval wrote: »

Mine borrowed early 70's and got going as Freedom's any many others did.
He borrowed for more land in 79 and true to type come hell or high water when interest rates rose the banks pulled the double barrell. He resisted and paid his way but it was a shocking time the eighties

but we are all here to tell the tale...

freedominacup · 18-07-2013 9:21pm

delaval wrote: »

Mine borrowed early 70's and got going as Freedom's any many others did.
He borrowed for more land in 79 and true to type come hell or high water when interest rates rose the banks pulled the double barrell. He resisted and paid his way but it was a shocking time the eighties

+1. There was plenty of blood in the water that time.

Lofty0990 · 19-07-2013 7:48am

delaval wrote: »

I promise no row, unless you want one!!!

My view is that we achieved what I've wanted and that was to seperate milk processing from the PLC

Oh yea, it's GII

Good now we are calling it what it is , a less bland answer to the second half given former Glanbia suppliers I talk to (some on the odd committee) mumble that it wouldn't have gone through without that share thingy if you know what I mean ?

No row just teasing it out.

freedominacup · 19-07-2013 8:50am

delaval wrote: »

I promise no row, unless you want one!!!

My view is that we achieved what I've wanted and that was to seperate milk processing from the PLC

Oh yea, it's GII

I don't want a row either de. IMO we haven't got seperation, we are stuck in a limbo land where we have all of the costs and difficulties associated with milk assembly and primary processing but have locked all/most of our high value output into contracts with one customer. GII has it's hand in the dogs mouth as much as any dairy farmer.

delaval · 19-07-2013 9:27am

freedominacup wrote: »

I don't want a row either de. IMO we haven't got seperation, we are stuck in a limbo land where we have all of the costs and difficulties associated with milk assembly and primary processing but have locked all/most of our high value output into contracts with one customer. GII has it's hand in the dogs mouth as much as any dairy farmer.

I think we'll leve it so.
It's too hot for arguing and I'm off north on my holidays and already winding down.

delaval · 19-07-2013 9:29am

Lofty0990 wrote: »

Good now we are calling it what it is , a less bland answer to the second half given former Glanbia suppliers I talk to (some on the odd committee) mumble that it wouldn't have gone through without that share thingy if you know what I mean ?

No row just teasing it out.

Agreed, the less enlightened would not have even read the post let alone voted had the money not been on the table.

loveta · 19-07-2013 10:23am

delaval wrote: »

I think we'll leve it so.
It's too hot for arguing and I'm off north on my holidays and already winding down.

give us a call if your in the cavan area, but dont forget to bring the biscuits

freedominacup · 19-07-2013 11:04am

delaval wrote: »

I think we'll leve it so.
It's too hot for arguing and I'm off north on my holidays and already winding down.

Enjoy. Did you contact that other man after I pm'ed you?

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