Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Winter 2020/Spring 2021

Meteorite58 · 15-05-2021 7:23pm

Lp takes up a new position tomorrow to our SE bringing winds in from the N, NE and NW'lys into Munster . Again cold air aloft and trough's moving down the country with low level convergence zones and diurnal heating aiding convection. Again heavy showers , some of hail and thunderstorms widespread. Like today probably short lived pulse like storms but with heavy downpours. Again Munster, Leinster and Connaught featuring more then Ulster, perhaps border counties might see some heavy thundery showers. Think Met Eireann will probably issue warnings for the three provinces again.

redsteveireland · 15-05-2021 7:37pm

Sent from a friend in Mayo yesterday.

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JanuarySnowstor · 15-05-2021 8:15pm

No need for more warnings we've had them all week and the thunder has been minimal with the majority seeing nothing but heavy showers.
A biscay low moving north with storms and heat in situ,now maybe that warrants a warning
It's about time warnings were used less and more so when they are warranted

esposito · 15-05-2021 8:27pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

No need for more warnings we've had them all week and the thunder has been minimal with the majority seeing nothing but heavy showers.
A biscay low moving north with storms and heat in situ,now maybe that warrants a warning
It's about time warnings were used less and more so when they are warranted

It’s nearly always the case for my county (Dublin) that we miss out on a decent thunderstorm unless it’s coming up from the Bay of Biscay as you mentioned. I still think the warnings are warranted though as a lot of rainfall can result from these hit and miss thunderstorms.

Tyrone212 · 15-05-2021 8:36pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

No need for more warnings we've had them all week and the thunder has been minimal with the majority seeing nothing but heavy showers.
A biscay low moving north with storms and heat in situ,now maybe that warrants a warning
It's about time warnings were used less and more so when they are warranted

I'm not trying to be over the top here by saying this but a young kid was killed in the UK by a lightning strike this week while playing football.

All of us who frequent this forum know thunderstorms are hit and miss for the area the warning is issued in. After all its a yellow warning. To be mindful thunderstorms may occur but they can't pin point the exact locations of were it will occur all the time.

My parents go for daily walks in a forest up a hill, I advised them not to go up there the day there was a warning issued for here and its all the better they didn't as lightning occurred that day. Without thunderstorm warnings people would be caught out in situations like that and it would be a dereliction of duty from meteorologists if they didn't issue them when warranted. At least if there are warnings issued, people are informed and can make their own choice.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't today the first day this week there has been a thunderstorm warning for your county? There was plenty of lightning this week in North Donegal. Meteorites daily posting of lightning strikes have illustrated that.

Meteorite58 · 15-05-2021 8:52pm

Todays detected sferics and rainfall.

I agree with Tyrone212 very hard to pinpoint exactly where these storms break out and impossible to forecast the very localized nature of the heavy downpours and hail so better to make people aware of the potential and advise them of risk by issuing warnings for general areas .

Meteorite58 · 15-05-2021 8:57pm

https://twitter.com/marigallagh/status/1393593483022249987?s=20

Gaoth Laidir · 15-05-2021 9:05pm

I agree it was a very dissapointing day today. I thought when I saw that aviation warning above that there may be more to it than appeared, but in reality it produced very little in the way of lightning but plenty in the way of miserable conditions. We needed a few more degrees of warming to get things going.

JanuarySnowstor · 15-05-2021 9:51pm

Worth noting that even though I believe warnings were over done lately tomorrow for the South looks primed particularly near Cork

Oneiric 3 · 15-05-2021 9:54pm

Tyrone212 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be over the top here by saying this but a young kid was killed in the UK by a lightning strike this week while playing football.

All of us who frequent this forum know thunderstorms are hit and miss for the area the warning is issued in. After all its a yellow warning. To be mindful thunderstorms may occur but they can't pin point the exact locations of were it will occur all the time.

My parents go for daily walks in a forest up a hill, I advised them not to go up there the day there was a warning issued for here and its all the better they didn't as lightning occurred that day. Without thunderstorm warnings people would be caught out in situations like that and it would be a dereliction of duty from meteorologists if they didn't issue them when warranted. At least if there are warnings issued, people are informed and can make their own choice.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't today the first day this week there has been a thunderstorm warning for your county? There was plenty of lightning this week in North Donegal. Meteorites daily posting of lightning strikes have illustrated that.

Call me old fashioned, but you tend to get a pretty good idea if a storm is coming for you well in advance, like when a big black cloud coming for you that is grumbling away; or do we now live in a time where people are so dependent on state institutions to tell them what's what they don't even bother to look up at the sky any more to know what is coming?

Warnings for a few random strikes that could turn up anywhere are way over the top and drama inducing. We don't exactly live in Kentucky or anything.

redsteveireland · 15-05-2021 10:03pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Call me old fashioned, but you tend to get a pretty good idea if a storm is coming for you well in advance, like when a big black cloud coming for you that is grumbling away; or do we now live in a time where people are so dependent on state institutions to tell them what's what they don't even bother to look up at the sky any more to know what is coming?

Warnings for a few random strikes that could turn up anywhere are way over the top and drama inducing. We don't exactly live in Kentucky or anything.

Many a time I have saved people a soaking on their lunchtime walk by telling them to turn around and look at the sky, alot people don't pay much attention to the sky.

Oneiric 3 · 15-05-2021 10:06pm

redsteveireland wrote: »

alot people don't pay much attention to the sky.

Such people are to be avoided.

The greatest people walk closer to the sky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vbtj7nIQlo

Tyrone212 · 15-05-2021 10:29pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Call me old fashioned, but you tend to get a pretty good idea if a storm is coming for you well in advance, like when a big black cloud coming for you that is grumbling away; or do we now live in a time where people are so dependent on state institutions to tell them what's what they don't even bother to look up at the sky any more to know what is coming?

Warnings for a few random strikes that could turn up anywhere are way over the top and drama inducing. We don't exactly live in Kentucky or anything.

My point was specific to thunderstorms. And the example of my parents, 2 hour walk in a forest up a hill, at points of that they'd be 1 hour walk away from the car. It could be clear skies at the start of that walk. I don't see how a yellow warning is a big deal, or how it has anything to do with a nanny state, its a forecast from meteorologists, people can do as they want with that information. And you don't need to live in kentucky to get struck by lightning.

JanuarySnowstor · 15-05-2021 11:03pm

Tyrone212 wrote: »

My point was specific to thunderstorms. And the example of my parents, 2 hour walk in a forest up a hill, at points of that they'd be 1 hour walk away from the car. It could be clear skies at the start of that walk. I don't see how a yellow warning is a big deal, or how it has anything to do with a nanny state, its a forecast from meteorologists, people can do as they want with that information. And you don't need to live in kentucky to get struck by lightning.

Perhaps it's us oldies being menacholy about the way it used to be ie sun and heavy showers.
Everything is dramatized on social media beyond all reason whether that be an economic recession or weather warnings.
Worth remembering we were told during the last recession that our grand children would still be paying for it yet 10 years later it was forgotten.
Same thing applies to weather! We have storms being named now back in the 80s it was wet and windy and most of us just got on with it

Oscar Bravo · 15-05-2021 11:09pm

Back in the 90s a day like today would be summed up with the following "heavy showers with an odd rumble of thunder to be heard"

Oneiric 3 · 15-05-2021 11:12pm

Speaking for just this part of the country, we tend to get storms when they aren't warned about, or have a warning issued after the storm is well underway.

And yes, very sad for the young lad in the UK, but the UK experiences far bigger thunderstorms than we do during the warm part of the year (which are still small fry compared to those on the continent)

Oneiric 3 · 15-05-2021 11:16pm

Tyrone212 wrote: »

And you don't need to live in kentucky to get struck by lightning.

Of course not, but roughly speaking, I'd say there is about a 10,000 greater chance.

pad199207 · 15-05-2021 11:19pm

Great shot near Naas today

Tyrone212 · 15-05-2021 11:39pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Speaking for just this part of the country, we tend to get storms when they aren't warned about, or have a warning issued after the storm is well underway.

And yes, very sad for the young lad in the UK, but the UK experiences far bigger thunderstorms than we do during the warm part of the year (which are still small fry compared to those on the continent)

Yeah the UK does. Blackpool only had a high of 17c on tuesday, 11c at time of the thunderstorm. I agree things are often blown out of proportion but I think a yellow warning for thunderstorms is sensible, others disagree which is fair enough and I can see your point as to why.

I do agree with the general sentiment that things can be blown out of proportion. Like naming a storm when only extreme exposed coastal locations barely make the criteria. I'm going off topic now so I'll shut up ha.

The One Doctor · 16-05-2021 12:01am

We almost never have a proper TS in Ireland.

Weather Boardsies love to blow things out of proportion and whine when their own predictions don't come true.

It's weather. It does what it wants, not what a bunch of amateur weather nerds want it to do.

Danno · 16-05-2021 12:34am

A couple of claps of thunder around Durrow this afternoon accompanied with intense hail and rain mixed on the outskirts of town, but a wholly different story in town...

Here is an interesting observation from this area:

* Thunderstorm rolled in over us around 2.30pm and down-gusting ahead of the system dropped temperatures by over 5c in the space of minutes.
* Two rainfall stations exactly 1 mile apart recorded 0.4mm and 8.0mm respectively. (My own station clocking up the 0.4mm).

Danno · 16-05-2021 12:46am

Forgot to add, up to 10am this morning here we've recorded 40.0mm of rain for the month of May.

pad199207 · 16-05-2021 9:35am

Status Yellow - Thunderstorm warning for Carlow, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Louth, Meath, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Cavan, Monaghan, Munster, Connacht

Met Éireann Weather Warning

Scattered thunderstorms through this afternoon and evening, bringing some heavy downpours with the risk of hail and spot flooding.

Valid: 11:00 Sunday 16/05/2021 to 21:00 Sunday 16/05/2021

Issued: 09:31 Sunday 16/05/2021

Danno · 16-05-2021 9:56am

Shower popped up and dropped 4.3mm in fifteen minutes over Durrow. It's moved off to the west now and the sun is back out. Very slow moving in general so anywhere getting showers today will clock up large totals.

spookwoman · 16-05-2021 11:39am

Dirty dark grey clouds over Tramore and more to my NNE. Will be an interesting day if this keeps up

This to my south now

DOCARCH · 16-05-2021 12:41pm

Reminiscent of (coastal) Florida holidays here in Dublin 16 today. Mostly clear and sunny here but seeing lots of inland convection/towering clouds to my west.

SouthWesterly · 16-05-2021 2:04pm

Danno wrote: »

Forgot to add, up to 10am this morning here we've recorded 40.0mm of rain for the month of May.

Beat you in North kerry. 60mm

robclay26 · 16-05-2021 3:11pm

Distant thunder, Delvin, Co Westmeath. No lightning yet

16-05-2021 3:31pm

Big flash in Garrettstown/Kinsale.

highdef · 16-05-2021 3:35pm

robclay26 wrote: »

Distant thunder, Delvin, Co Westmeath. No lightning yet

If you heard thunder, then there was definitely lightning, you just didn't see it.

I'm in Trim and that storm is approaching here now.

igCorcaigh · 16-05-2021 3:44pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Big flash in Garrettstown/Kinsale.

Yes, strikes showing up on the Cork coast, hope it makes its way to the city!

sunbabe08 · 16-05-2021 3:47pm

Thunder in youghal!!!

highdef · 16-05-2021 4:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

pad199207 wrote: »

Crazy strikes over Naas with instant thunder

The storm on the approach to North kildare, looking in the general direction of Naas.

Hopefully this works now

highdef · 16-05-2021 4:04pm

Some great cloudscapes in North kildare a few hours ago.

Arturo Delgado · 16-05-2021 5:12pm

Lightning, thunder North Offaly. Hailstones too.

JanuarySnowstor · 16-05-2021 7:21pm

Another day of warnings yet majority didn't get any storms. Granted a few did.

5 years ago thunder warnings were preserved for serious events and a thunder warning would raise an eyebrow as noteworthy.

These days......nuff said lol

Danno · 16-05-2021 7:29pm

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A view of the showers/thunder over western Laois at present.

Gaoth Laidir · 16-05-2021 9:24pm

highdef wrote: »

Some great cloudscapes in North kildare a few hours ago.

I'm getting playback error on all of those videos...

Meteorite58 · 17-05-2021 12:22am

Lots of showers but not a lot of lightning today. Frequent showers in S Kerry today, but managed to get out walking for a couple of hours before some more rain in the mid afternoon. Came back to Tralee and turned into the most glorious evening, just 0.6mm here.

highdef · 17-05-2021 1:11am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I'm getting playback error on all of those videos...

Thanks for that, not sure what happened there, uploaded from my mobile but normally use a computer. Here's the videos again from Sunday lunchtime:

Liaison · 17-05-2021 1:07pm

Some nice thunder storms over cork

Gaoth Laidir · 17-05-2021 1:28pm

Cork Airport warning, valid up to 14:30

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JCX BXC · 17-05-2021 1:56pm

Met &#201 wrote: »

Status Yellow - Thunderstorm warning for Cork, Waterford
Met Éireann Weather Warning

Scattered thunderstorms this afternoon and early this evening, bringing some heavy downpours with the risk of spot flooding and hail.

Valid: 13:46 Monday 17/05/2021 to 18:00 Monday 17/05/2021

Issued: 13:47 Monday 17/05/2021

Yellow weather warning issued for Cork and Waterford.

EnzoScifo · 17-05-2021 2:13pm

It just got twilight dark in Cork City. Hope the fun continues!

sunbabe08 · 17-05-2021 2:14pm

EnzoScifo wrote: »

It just got twilight dark in Cork City. Hope the fun continues!

Just got back from sunny youghal to this pitch black menace. Let’s have some fun!!

spookwoman · 17-05-2021 2:17pm

Waterford is quite warm at the moment and thunderheads starting to build.

PukkaStukka · 17-05-2021 3:10pm

Looks like the voltage is quite high over Dungarvan at the mo

Gamma Flash · 17-05-2021 3:42pm

Some rumbles in south kilkenny, v dark dungarvan to waterford along copper coast

Donegal Ken · 17-05-2021 3:47pm

Status Yellow - Thunderstorm warning for Carlow, Kilkenny, Wexford, Cork, Waterford
Met Éireann Weather Warning

Scattered thunderstorms this afternoon and early evening, bringing some heavy downpours with the risk of spot flooding and hail.

Valid: 15:43 Monday 17/05/2021 to 18:00 Monday 17/05/2021

Issued: 15:43 Monday 17/05/2021

Wanderer78 · 17-05-2021 3:57pm

distant rumbles over the last 30 mins or so, waterford city

Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Winter 2020/Spring 2021

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