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Atlantic Storm Watch & Coastal Flooding Events: January 2014

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    ECMWF also has that small system to the southwest @ 72hrs.

    One to watch for sure.

    ECM1-72.GIF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,590 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Looking at 96h ECM and other models with more frequent hours, that intense low tracks northeast across the country overnight 2-3 Jan.

    Across the entire model suite, we are looking at two very strong windstorms on the 3rd and 5th-6th.

    The first of these looks as though it may cut northeast at the last possible moment, exposing the south and east to the ideal track for very strong south to southwest gusts (late overnight to mid-day Friday 3rd roughly).

    The second storm resembles the recent 26th-27th event for track and intensity. Exceptionally cold air pouring off the North American continent around then would be fuelling the low as it develops in the central Atlantic on the 4th.

    While these are two major peaks in wind speed, the entire period looks windy and as the Met service have noted, very high tidal values on the 1st will not be dropping off that quickly so that any strong winds on the 3rd in particular will have almost the maximum tidal range as support for coastal problems. (Moon is new and also at perigee on the first of January)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Looking at the ECM on the weather underground 6-hour interval charts, the first low has already begun to weaken by the time it gets close to us and ends up giving the west coast a brush of gales but nothing too severe.

    Timing/track changes will make all the difference though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭CB19Kevo


    Strong enough gusts here in South east Kerry at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,423 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    She's getting windy out there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Storm picking up here in the south west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    Today in Mallow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Cant fault Met Eireann for detail in their 2227 update tonight

    Mostly cloudy tonight with heavy rain moving in across the country from the Atlantic (scattered thunderstorms in the west and southwest). The rain will turn heavy and persistent for a time overnight, with the risk of spot flooding. Becoming rather windy for time too, with strengthening southerly winds. A clearance to scattered showers will follow later and winds will veer southwest and moderate. Milder at first, but turning cooler with the clearance. Lowest temperatures of 2 to 4 degrees Celsius, with a touch of grass frost locally towards dawn.
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    Tomorrow

    Tuesday will start mainly dry with sunny spells, but showers will soon develop in the west and southwest will gradually spread to other parts during the day. Some of them will merge into longer spells of rain and a few heavy bursts are likely. Southerly winds will increase again and it will become blustery for a time, especially near south coasts. Cool, with highest afternoon temperatures of between 5 and 8 degrees, coldest in the north. Becoming drier for a time in the evening with clear spells, but further showers feeding into Atlantic counties then.

    Outlook

    OUTLOOK: Changeable and unsettled for the rest of the week, as low pressure in the nearby Atlantic steers in bands of wet and windy weather.
    Cool if not cold by by day, and chilly by night - frost on some of the nights.

    TOMORROW NIGHT: Most areas will dry with clear spells - scattered showers occurring too (mainly in the south to begin and later in the night near Atlantic coasts). Cold, with a slight to sharp frost, and the risk of some icy stretches. Lowest temperatures 1 to 4 degrees Celsius, with light to moderate southwest breezes.

    THURSDAY: Breezy to begin with fresh to strong and gusty southwest winds. Holding mostly dry for daylight hours across much of the eastern half of the country with some sunny spells, but scattered showers across the rest of the country. Wet and windy weather likely to move in across the country from the west later on in the evening. Highest temperatures 6 to 10 degrees Celsius, with strong and gusty southerly winds later. Staying windy overnight, with further spells of rain.

    FRIDAY: Windy with strong southwest winds. Heavy showers, merging to longer spells of rain (threat of hail or thunder later). Showers will be more scattered to the southeast and east, with longer drier spells occurring in these areas (some sunny spells too). Cool, with highest temperatures of just 6 or 7 degrees Celsius. Showers will tend to retreat to coastal counties of the west and northwest after dark with winds easing. Cold with a widespread sharp frost, some icy stretches too. Lowest temperatures - 2 to +2 degrees Celsius, with light to moderate southerly winds.

    SATURDAY: Some uncertainly for the weekend, but heavy persistent rain likely to move up from the south of the country on Saturday, last to arrive in Ulster (possibly turning wintry over higher ground in the west and north later). Highest temperatures 3 to 7 degrees Celsius (coldest across the western half of the country).

    SUNDAY: Overnight rain clearing away eastwards and winds easing; fair but cold weather for much of the day thereafter.


    N. B. Given the highly changeable and often wet conditions that are likely to prevail across Ireland for the coming week, and the fact that all lands are either saturated or waterlogged, the probability of river flooding will increase in many areas. In addition, the turn of the year will bring maximal high tides which, in combination with strong onshore winds, high seas and possible surge effects, will predispose many coastal districts to maritime inundation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    bnt wrote: »
    Not sure how much I can trust a GFS model for 168h (7 days) ahead. IIRC it was pretty good at predicting the big storm we had last week, a week ahead.
    I wouldn't trust it at all, but it's an example of the kind of stuff coming up on the models. It's unlikely it will come off like that, but another variation of it might since we are now in a pattern with low pressure systems passing close to or over Ireland.

    I hate to disagree with you Maq (first time! I always agree with you) & bnt but I think the GFS did a good job a week out from the 26th/27th. It may have had a crazy low (905) 8 days out that fell back but at least we knew there was something coming. We'll see if it got it nearly right around a week from now...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭Steopo


    Cant fault Met Eireann for detail in their 2227 update tonight

    Only fault I'd have is the day they missed, does Wednesday not exist or are they taking New Years Day off :D

    Looks like flooding more so than the wind could be the topic this week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Crazy rain in cork city at the mo! Pretty gusty also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    Same in Wexford Town, heavy shower just passing over and very gusty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Some strong gusts here in mayo, not as bad as last weeks by a long way. Rain is starting to get heavier as I type.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 brianville


    I agree , very gusty near bandon . Strong sw winds. Really picked up in the last 20 mims. Heavy rain too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    From Fermoy / Blackwater River

    http://www.farsondigitalwatercams.com/live-webcams/ireland/Blackwater/Fermoy/

    Remove the overlying advert and check water levels against previous hourly photo stills - some serious water flow atm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭vickers209


    Estofex going for a level 1 tomorrow on the west coast

    showforecast.cgi?lightningmap=yes&fcstfile=2014010106_201312302233_1_stormforecast.xml



    Valid: Tue 31 Dec 2013 06:00 to Wed 01 Jan 2014 06:00 UTC
    Issued: Mon 30 Dec 2013 22:33

    A level 1 was issued for parts of Ireland, W Scotland/UK and offshore areas mainly for severe wind gusts. An isolated funnel/short-lived tornado event is possible.

    SYNOPSIS and DISCUSSION

    The retracted and exceptionally busy pattern over the N-Atlantic continues as another polar vortex approaches E-Canada. In fact, this vortex seems to be the most powerful vortex for this winter season, as 500 hPa heights drop to 481 gpdm and 850 hPa temperatures level out at -37°C! Despite an increasing ensemble spread in numerous oscillation indices, no serious change in the 'roaring 2013/14's' over the N-Atlantic is expected in the near future.

    Latest OPC analysis places a weakening confluent trough with a filling 990 hPa surface vortex over the N-North Sea. A triple-barrel low with 966 hPa centers covers a broad swath from 45°W to 15°W and 40°N to 70°N. This feature will affect Ireland, UK and Scotland during the forecast with windy and wet conditions and there are a few features to talk about:

    Extensive N-S aligned cold front already crosses Ireland at 06Z and affects UK/Scotland thereafter (probably leaving UK to the east at roughly 18 Z). Placed in the unfavorable part of that diffluent trough, not much activity is expected convective-wise. Even the most optimistic models show only patches of marginal CAPE along that front and like yesterday we expect some kind of narrow cold-frontal rainband to accompany the wind shift with gusty winds. Constant weakening of that front is forecast.
    The post-frontal air mass is characterized by rather cold mid-levels with 500 hPa temperature falling to -30 °C or less. Active post-frontal sector with rather deep convection (already visible in latest WV/IR images) spreads east and affects the area of interest between 09 and 00Z. Embedded in this brisk westerly flow regime is a distinct trough axis, which affects Ireland around noon and Scotland thereafter. This time period will probably be the main one for more organized convection. Forecast soundings show 300-400 J/kg SBCAPE and 150-180 m^2/s^2 SRH-1 along that trough. Enhanced LL CAPE exists offshore/along the W-coast of Ireland, so next to enhanced downward mixing of 25 m/s winds at 850 hPa an isolated and short-lived funnel/tornado event seems possible. We would not be surprised to see a rather solid line of enhanced convection to affect W/NW and N-Irland around noon into the early afternoon hours. The level area was also expanded towards W-UK, where onshore moving thunderstorms could see a confined temporal overlap of modest (onshore) SBCAPE and increasing frictional BL shear. A short-lived funnel/tornado event is possible next to the wind risk.

    During the overnight hours the risk of enhanced and deep convection gradually abates from W to E, as deep WAA sets in from the W ahead of another powerful depression. I don't want to spend too much time on that feature, as the system (or let's say, the most interesting part of that system for convection) remains west of Ireland. Nevertheless there are clear signals of a pronounced tropopause fold and intrusion of high/low tropospheric/stratospheric air, which could overspread the trailing and nearly E-W aligned cold front. Quite robust CAPE signals are forecast and this could result in deep and potentially electrified convection within an environment of 30 m/s near BL winds. Severe wind gusts will be the main hazard, but of interest is a not often seen offshore overlap of roughly 400-800 J/kg SBCAPE and 200 m^2/s^2 SRH-1. Most likely we will never know if a tornado/waterspout occurred with that set-up. Nevertheless, the level 1 was expanded to the SW especially for the enhanced and convectively induced severe wind gust risk.


    With that we close the chapter for 2013. We wish everyone a safe and eventful night of New Year's Eve and a Happy New Year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭markfla


    Just lost power in kilcock, was playing gta5 with lightening happening in the game & also outside in reality, quite cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Rain is absolutely torrential here


  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭aboyro


    no rain here but nice strong gusts


  • Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭acassells80


    Heavy rain here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,947 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Holy crap balls!! That short of rain and hail is nothing like I've ever heard!

    Location is Tuam!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Holy crap balls!! That short of rain and hail is nothing like I've ever heard!

    Location is Tuam!

    Will it move across to Dublin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Some gusts getting up to Stephens day levels.

    Carlow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,947 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    loubian wrote: »
    Will it move across to Dublin?

    I hope so, I want to be able to sleep tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    dacogawa wrote: »
    I hate to disagree with you Maq (first time! I always agree with you) & bnt but I think the GFS did a good job a week out from the 26th/27th. It may have had a crazy low (905) 8 days out that fell back but at least we knew there was something coming. We'll see if it got it nearly right around a week from now...

    I think there will be a low kicking around somewhere around that time alright, but I just wouldnt trust the GFS (or any model) on it's position and intensity this far out yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Now this is a real storm.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Now the weather outside ain't lovely
    But the champagne is extra bubbly
    So if you've no place to go
    Let it blow Let it blow Let it blow

    Oh, it doesn't show signs of stopping
    But I've got some Pringles for popping
    And since the lights are turned down low
    Let it blow Let it blow Let it blow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Friday's system looking a bit sharper on this mornings runs.

    One to keep a very close eye on now @ 72hrs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    The potential for damaging storms in next week or so remains on all model output this morning, with some GFS ensembles showing very serious storms. Friday looks like the first taste of this with the threat upgrading overnight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    MT is a little more downbeat on the cooling trend in today's forecast. There's not much on the horizon for snow heads yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭MiaMaria


    holy cow....thunder and lighting here is west cork now ...(near bantry)


  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭vard


    I'm flying Dub to Stansted on Monday the 6th of Jan. Anyone have any ideas how the weather's looking for that day? I have a fairly tight schedule, so I'm relying on an on time arrival!

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭lilymc


    Crazy weather here in killarney, heavy rain, thunder and gale force winds. No warning of this, it is nearly as bad as stephen's night! A girl down the road is getting married today dont think she could ever have thought the westher would be like this. Where is the cold wintery weather?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    It's really nasty here in Dunmanway, West Cork. The sky is very dark and there's thunder and lightning and heavy rain. It's quite mild though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    The 6z GFS still maintains a storm threat for northwest and west mostly on Friday. The second progged storm for January 6th has really lost its bite by the time it hits Ireland on this run at least. Looks like a more northerly flow after that with a mix of wintry showers presumably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,423 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    lilymc wrote: »
    Crazy weather here in killarney, heavy rain, thunder and gale force winds. No warning of this, it is nearly as bad as stephen's night! A girl down the road is getting married today dont think she could ever have thought the westher would be like this. Where is the cold wintery weather?

    rain looks to be clearing on the radar, with a bit of luck she'll be grand :)

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

    http://www.sat24.com/en/fr?ir=true


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    lilymc wrote: »
    A girl down the road is getting married today dont think she could ever have thought the weather would be like this.

    Ya December 31st, sun should have been splitting the stones :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dopolahpec


    Friday latest from GFS....looks rough to me, right across the central belt. Very bad on the west coast again...if that's how it pans out of course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z NAE at 48 hours :

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    12Z HIRLAM at 54 hours :

    tuul54.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Would someone please run one of those projections for Friday morning 06:00z, trying to fly across that direction but with the forecasts we have already ruled out Shannon and started planning for Luton, but judging by the earth.nullschool projection, we might be better off stopping in Paris.

    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    6am Friday..

    gfs-0-66_wvr6.png

    Very windy and becoming increasingly stormy later in the day, west to south west winds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Thankfully the GFS has the next low peaking way out in the Atlantic before it reaches here. Looks quite nasty.

    gfs-0-105-3h.png?12

    Matured and weakened by this stage.

    gfs-0-147-3h.png?12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Thanks..... this should be fun :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    Hows thursday looking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    I am flying Shannon to Heathrow on Saturday 4th around 5pm.
    I have a tight connection, could I be in trouble?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭kavanagh_h


    Now the weather outside ain't lovely
    But the champagne is extra bubbly
    So if you've no place to go
    Let it blow Let it blow Let it blow

    Oh, it doesn't show signs of stopping
    But I've got some Pringles for popping
    And since the lights are turned down low
    Let it blow Let it blow Let it blow

    This needs some additional verses...

    Oh the weather is truly mild
    but i cant wait for the snow
    And it mtc would just oblige
    Surely we can stop the blow

    Oh it doesnt show signs of stopping
    But there is still chocolate binging
    So until the final count down
    let it blow let it blow let it blow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    I am flying Shannon to Heathrow on Saturday 4th around 5pm.
    I have a tight connection, could I be in trouble?

    At the moment Saturday looks ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Friday morning looks nasty on all 3 models.
    Kind of crept up on us this one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    More rain, and not the end of it either.
    Rainfall Warning for countrywide

    Another 20-35 mm of rain is expected in the next 24 hours, with the bulk of the rain later tonight and on New Year's Day morning.
    The combination of the high rainfall amounts and expected gale force south to southeast winds and high tides may lead to coastal flooding on some coasts.

    Issued:
    Tuesday 31 December 2013 15:00
    Valid:
    Tuesday 31 December 2013 15:00 to Wednesday 01 January 2014 15:00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Met Eireann warned of a new storm for Thursday, showed the low with very tight lines bringing another stormy period on Thur Night


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