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Wrestlemania 35 Thread * Spoilers* (*No Betting Talk*)

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  • #152
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    I'm not even contemplating that after she got the SD title, before that maybe there's a seed of doubt but she can go and sh1te now

    I was gonna post that photoshop of Triple H with all the titles, or the real photo of Kurt Angle with all the TNA gold, but I don't think either would accurately reflect Charlotte coming out of Mania with the 2 belts


  • #153
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    I'm not even contemplating that after she got the SD title, before that maybe there's a seed of doubt but she can go and sh1te now

    I was gonna post that photoshop of Triple H with all the titles, or the real photo of Kurt Angle with all the TNA gold, but I don't think either would accurately reflect Charlotte coming out of Mania with the 2 belts

    Nah Becky is their golden girl at the moment. I can’t see her not winning after they’ve been building to it for so long.


  • #154
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Wrestling-wise I think it should be an excellent PPV. It's a shame the build up has been piss poor for the majority of matches.

    I haven't heard the build to Rollins-Lesnar being criticised much but I think it's been the worst of the lot. When's the last time they even interacted? When Rollins took five or six F5s? That feels like forever ago. It seems like we've gotten the same Rollins-Heyman promo about half a dozen times.

    Rollins' promo work has been poor too imo, the whole "crowd are the 12th man" narrative is just lame.


  • #155
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    I'm not even contemplating that after she got the SD title, before that maybe there's a seed of doubt but she can go and sh1te now

    I was gonna post that photoshop of Triple H with all the titles, or the real photo of Kurt Angle with all the TNA gold, but I don't think either would accurately reflect Charlotte coming out of Mania with the 2 belts

    WWE's instagram teased it yesterday...

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvo22PNlQxl/

    If Vince sees that, Becky's hopes are doomed!


  • #156
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    I dont get why theyre redoing the Reigns storyline with Rollins

    You dont need to bury Lesnar by saying he’s not around, the fans already cheer for Rollins

    He should have been built as the unstoppable beast because thats what he is, he’s gone through almost everyone on Raw worth his time so what chance does Rollins have?

    I hope after Mania we can move on with both Brock and the title. Brock is an attraction in himself as always, we might be sick of him as champ but he’s still one of a kind and he has something to offer elsewhere down the card


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  • #157
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,481 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    That picture being posted by WWE pretty much guarantees it won’t happen. It’s pro-wrestling 101.


  • #158
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    martyos121 wrote: »
    That picture being posted by WWE pretty much guarantees it won’t happen. It’s pro-wrestling 101.

    Yep they wouldn’t spoil the big Mania moment


  • #159
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    An unprecedented 8 star match is brilliant

    https://twitter.com/baroncorbinwwe/status/1112399971066830849?s=21


  • #160
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    sky88 wrote:
    An unprecedented 8 star match is brilliant


    I love Corbins response to someone cancelling the network in that tweet :pac:


  • #161
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Don't discount the swerve of Charlotte winning. Charlotte/Ronda seemed to be the plan until Becky's popularity forced their hand. They may not shift from the original outcome they had in mind.

    How often do heels close Mania as the winners? Brock last year, sure, and it was a massive downer and criticized.

    Becky winning should 100% be the closing, crowning moment of the show.


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  • #162
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    A fan over on Reddit did a Kofi version of Bryan's "Monster" Mania video, and it's got me hyped.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Becky. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't 100 times more invested in Kofi's story, simply cause his is an 11 year, genuine version of the story Becky has been telling for 6 months.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUr_3uE1Zow


  • #163
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    That was effin fantastic


  • #164
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    The best thing about the Kofi thing is how organic it feels, and how WWE seems to be going with the flow rather than the plan

    If Mustafa Ali didn’t get injured then we’d probably be looking at KO vs DB for the title, things just seemed to fall into place


  • #165
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    *Pedant Alert*

    Kofi's story, while great and all is actually only 3 months really since they've actually strapped a rocket on him. The 11 years thing works excellently with the story, but I'd argue that people are more invested at this stage because:

    A): It's fresher
    B) They've completely ruined the Becky story with the crutches and the swerves and the nonsense and the Charlotte.

    *End Pedant Alert*

    That video is bloody epic. I'm actually starting to get some pre-Mania excitement after watching that.


  • #166
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,481 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Necro wrote: »
    *Pedant Alert*

    Kofi's story, while great and all is actually only 3 months really since they've actually strapped a rocket on him. The 11 years thing works excellently with the story, but I'd argue that people are more invested at this stage because:

    A): It's fresher
    B) They've completely ruined the Becky story with the crutches and the swerves and the nonsense and the Charlotte.

    *End Pedant Alert*

    That video is bloody epic. I'm actually starting to get some pre-Mania excitement after watching that.

    Nothing pedantic about that IMO. The Kofi thing works so well because of how sudden and organic it is. The fact that it’s only taken off in the last 3 months is even better from a storytelling perspective, because his irrelevance as a singles competitor has only been magnified as a result. I love everything about it, but I do believe Kofi losing controversially is the best outcome in the long term. There’s way more mileage in this after Mania, and a more aggressive, anti-authority New Day could be magic.

    I know every man and their dog will say let Kofi have his WrestleMania moment, but they have a chance to get nuclear heat on Bryan and a lot more on top of that by depriving Kofi a bit longer. The really important part is not breaking up New Day with this, let them develop their characters but keep them together even as just a faction, not necessarily a team.


  • #167
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    With regards the triple threat discussion who do we think should take the pin/submission in the main event?

    My instinct is that Becky should pin or tap out Ronda if the latter is taking time off. It's what the fans want to see and it sets up a Becky vs Charlotte feud in the aftermath since Charlotte wouldn't have been involved in the decision.

    But if there's a chance Ronda works Summerslam, perhaps Becky pinning or tapping out Charlotte is the right move since it could make a one-on-one match with Ronda huge since she'd still never have been directly involved in a loss.

    Thoughts?


  • #168
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    With regards the triple threat discussion who do we think should take the pin/submission in the main event?

    My instinct is that Becky should pin or tap out Ronda if the latter is taking time off. It's what the fans want to see and it sets up a Becky vs Charlotte feud in the aftermath since Charlotte wouldn't have been involved in the decision.

    But if there's a chance Ronda works Summerslam, perhaps Becky pinning or tapping out Charlotte is the right move since it could make a one-on-one match with Ronda huge since she'd still never have been directly involved in a loss.

    Thoughts?

    I can't see Becky tapping out Ronda Rousey of all people with an armbar. If she is winning it will be at Charlotte's expense (Becky going over her so often in the last year is what makes me weary of Charlotte winning though). That will give Becky/Ronda a reason to feud one-on-one somewhere down the road (Ronda will say Becky never beat her etc.)

    Whatever happens after Mania Becky and Charlotte need to be separated for a long time. They have been feuding for almost a year straight. They both need fresh opponents. Becky/Sasha could be great if do it right, The Man vs The Boss. But the tag scene gets in the way of that.


  • #169
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,362 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    With regards the triple threat discussion who do we think should take the pin/submission in the main event?

    My instinct is that Becky should pin or tap out Ronda if the latter is taking time off. It's what the fans want to see and it sets up a Becky vs Charlotte feud in the aftermath since Charlotte wouldn't have been involved in the decision.

    But if there's a chance Ronda works Summerslam, perhaps Becky pinning or tapping out Charlotte is the right move since it could make a one-on-one match with Ronda huge since she'd still never have been directly involved in a loss.

    Thoughts?

    I don't care who Becky beats next sunday. If WWE have any bit of sense they'll have here beat one of them clean as a whistle in the middle of the ring.


  • #170
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Happy Mania week!

    Say what you want about the lackluster buildup there's nothing like Mania weekend for wrestling fans, there's definitely a special feel to it, even better this year that takeover is Friday night so available to stream anytime Saturday gives it a proper weekend festival feel.


  • #171
    Furious-Red
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Loughc wrote: »
    Happy Mania week!

    Say what you want about the lackluster buildup there's nothing like Mania weekend for wrestling fans, there's definitely a special feel to it, even better this year that takeover is Friday night so available to stream anytime Saturday gives it a proper weekend festival feel.

    Yea im looking forward to takeover , WM not so much this year. Ill prob watch the first hour or so


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  • #172
    sirmanga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    The John Oliver segment on WWE last night was unfair in parts and fair in others. One thing is for sure; it will NOT have gone down well in House McMahon.
    But I wonder how many WWE fans watch Oliver and will follow through with his crowd takeover initiative at Mania?



    One has to wonder what Oliver's motivations are to go after WWE. Oliver is obviously an anti Trump guy. And last week Linda McMahon announced she is one of the leaders of Trump's re-election effort for 2020.

    Whatever the case is, if other outlets pick this Oliver story up, this is not good for WWE.


  • #173
    Furious-Red
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    sirmanga wrote: »
    The John Oliver segment on WWE last night was unfair in parts and fair in others. One thing is for sure; it will NOT have gone down well in House McMahon.
    But I wonder how many WWE fans watch Oliver and will follow through with his crowd takeover initiative at Mania?



    One has to wonder what Oliver's motivations are to go after WWE. Oliver is obviously an anti Trump guy. And last week Linda McMahon announced she is one of the leaders of Trump's re-election effort for 2020.

    Whatever the case is, if other outlets pick this Oliver story up, this is not good for WWE.

    Might watch that on my break


  • #174
    sirmanga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    Furious-Red wrote: »
    Might watch that on my break

    It's interesting.
    You can feel the underlying disdain that Oliver and/or his writers have for wrestling as a product, but Oliver praises wrestling throughout the segment, calling it entertaining and the like. Call me cynical, but I think he only did that to get the fans on his side in hopes that they would follow through with his WrestleMania fan takeover idea. If he had made fun of the product and its fans he knows it would turn them against him.


  • #175
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    What was the takeover idea for the fans?


  • #176
    sirmanga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    Loughc wrote: »
    What was the takeover idea for the fans?

    Basically, Oliver ran through all of the bad stuff (and some good stuff) about WWE; that the wrestlers don't get an off season, are independent contractors instead of employees, the high death rate of wrestlers.

    At the end of the segment, Oliver asks fans to bring signs to Mania and make up chants that shame WWE, basically cause disruption at the event in order to show their displeasure with how wrestlers are treated by WWE.


  • #177
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    sirmanga wrote: »
    Basically, Oliver ran through all of the bad stuff (and some good stuff) about WWE; that the wrestlers don't get an off season, are independent contractors instead of employees, the high death rate of wrestlers.

    At the end of the segment, Oliver asks fans to bring signs to Mania and make up chants that shame WWE, basically cause disruption at the event in order to show their displeasure with how wrestlers are treated by WWE.

    Pffft Mania crowd will be too busy trying to get themselves over than an important message.


  • #178
    dusty bin
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    Just watched the oliver segment there. Previous Statments made by Punk, Piper and Ventura were used but also an old one, i'm guessing pre-2006, by bret hart. Would bret use his HoF speech to highlight the issues highlighted by oliver?

    Also, anyone know where i can find a longer version of that interview where vince slapped the papers from a journalist? never seen that before.


  • #179
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Cool callback to an even cooler prediction by Dusty in what was actually his final tweet...

    https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1112420086952980481?s=19


  • #180
    dusty bin
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    dusty bin wrote: »
    Just watched the oliver segment there. Previous Statments made by Punk, Piper and Ventura were used but also an old one, i'm guessing pre-2006, by bret hart. Would bret use his HoF speech to highlight the issues highlighted by oliver?

    Also, anyone know where i can find a longer version of that interview where vince slapped the papers from a journalist? never seen that before.

    ignore all previous questions I had asked. I initially viewed it on a tiny screen where I could not see the names/dates of the interview snippets. Re-watched it last night and felt stupid. All good now.


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  • #181
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Looks like Revival vs Hawkins/Ryder for the Raw tag titles has been added.


  • #182
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Please God please let Hawkins' streak end to those two boring wasters.


  • #183
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,899 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Looks like Revival vs Hawkins/Ryder for the Raw tag titles has been added.

    unusual thought it would be Black/Ricochet vs Revival

    Got too love mania week and it can offically begin after SD live tonight when the card will be 100% confirmed . Really prefer when Takeover was Sat night instead of that boring Hall Of Fame.


  • #184
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Why is maina is long this year?


  • #185
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    cena wrote: »
    Why is maina is long this year?

    I think it's been 7 (2 pre-show and 5 main show) for ages now.

    Honestly, I'm going to break it up over Monday. I wouldn't binge watch 7 one hour episodes of a series without taking lengthy breaks.


  • #186
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I think it's been 7 (2 pre-show and 5 main show) for ages now.

    Honestly, I'm going to break it up over Monday. I wouldn't binge watch 7 one hour episodes of a series without taking lengthy breaks.

    Since it went to the network for WM 30 iirc, yeah.

    I'll watch the show live. Lucky enough to be off until Wednesday of that week so my weekend goes as follows:

    Takeover Friday night
    Dublin with wifey Saturday night
    WrestleMania Sunday night
    RAW Monday night

    Bed at about 7 o clock on Tuesday to recover :pac:


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  • #187
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    unusual thought it would be Black/Ricochet vs Revival

    Got too love mania week and it can offically begin after SD live tonight when the card will be 100% confirmed . Really prefer when Takeover was Sat night instead of that boring Hall Of Fame.

    Much prefer it being on Friday, don't have to choose between NXT and the G1 this way!


  • #188
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,899 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Sunday times
    10pm- pre show
    12pm- main show


  • #189
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,518 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    With regards the triple threat discussion who do we think should take the pin/submission in the main event?

    My instinct is that Becky should pin or tap out Ronda if the latter is taking time off. It's what the fans want to see and it sets up a Becky vs Charlotte feud in the aftermath since Charlotte wouldn't have been involved in the decision.

    But if there's a chance Ronda works Summerslam, perhaps Becky pinning or tapping out Charlotte is the right move since it could make a one-on-one match with Ronda huge since she'd still never have been directly involved in a loss.

    Thoughts?

    I want Becky to win by pin or submission on Ronda but feel Charlotte was added to take the pin

    When Becky wins both titles, she appears on both SD and RAW, as she is the most over current WWE star makes sense to have her everywhere :P
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #190
    cian68
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    Rey Mysterio vs Samoa Joe might not be great.... but what if it is? If those two tear it up on such a big stage in 2019 I might shed a tear. Well not really but I'll post a tearful emoji somewhere


  • #191
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Anyways be know where the wrestler would be stay. My mom is in Brooklyn for a few weeks with the cousins that are going. I'm sure she would like a photo with Stephanie, triple h. Stone or the rock. She wouldn't know any of today's wrestlers


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  • #192
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,899 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    cian68 wrote: »
    Rey Mysterio vs Samoa Joe might not be great.... but what if it is? If those two tear it up on such a big stage in 2019 I might shed a tear. Well not really but I'll post a tearful emoji somewhere

    Dominic will get involved and be choked out by Joe


  • #193
    Officer999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Is Ronda still undefeated since her debut at last year's Wrestlemania?

    Surprised that hasn't been hyped more if it is


  • #194
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,899 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Anyone else think Batista will win and Triple H retires from the ring ???


  • #195
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Officer999 wrote: »
    Is Ronda still undefeated since her debut at last year's Wrestlemania?

    Surprised that hasn't been hyped more if it is

    In singles competition, yeah, but she did lose a tag match with Natalya against Banks/Bayley a few months ago.


  • #196
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,899 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Host- Alexa Bliss

    Raw Women's Championship and Smackdown Women's Championship match: Ronda Rousey vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair (winner takes all match)

    WWE Championship match: Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston

    Universal Championship match: Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins

    Intercontinental Championship match: Finn Balor vs. Boddy Lashley

    United States Championship match: Samoa Joe vs. Rey Mysterio. Although
    Rey is injured and could be replaced. A certain john cena may fit in

    Women's Tag Team Championship match: Sasha Banks and Bayley vs. Nia Jax and Tamina Snuka vs. Beth Phoenix and Natalya vs. The IIconics

    WWE Cruiserweight Championship match: Buddy Murphy vs. Tony Nese

    Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre

    Batista vs. Triple H (no-holds-barred match)
    Randy Orton vs. AJ Styles

    Shane McMahon vs. The Miz (falls count anywhere match)

    Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin

    Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal (entrants so far: Braun Strowman, Michael Che, Colin Jost)

    Wrestlemania Women's Battle Royal (confirmed entrants so far: Asuka, Carmella, Naomi, Lana, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Nikki Cross, Dana Brooke, Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, Sarah Logan, Mickie James, Zelina Vega)

    Smackdown Tag Team Championships Fatal 4 way- The Usos vs. Ricochet and Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Shinsuke Nakamura and Rusev

    Elias musical performance

    Raw Tag Team Championship- Revial vs Hawkins and Ryder (Not confirmed)

    rumours of
    Cena and possibly Undetaker appearning


  • #197
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Jesus! That's too long to quote for my reply never mind what it will be like to watch! I know Vince likes to try get as many wrestlers on to Wrestlemania cards as possible but they have never had a roster this big before. I will be hitting fast forward a lot for this one.


  • #198
    dusty bin
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    Happy Mania Week everyone.

    I'm like a child waiting for christmas here. The card isnt the greatest, but we've one of our own in the main event and I really hope she gets the right result.

    I've fallen asleep on a couple of occasions down the years during mania (never for any other ppv) but that was mostly due to the undertakers entrance or lack of care for whoever was in the main event (wm 30, I fell asleep during takers entrance and woke up 5 minutes into the main event, totally missing the end of the streak). This year will be different hopefully. I've monday off and beer already stocked for the weekend.

    So HAPPY Mania week to all.


  • #199
    randomchild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭randomchild


    I have some money in my paddy power account so have lumped it into Braun taking the Andre the Giant and Becky winning the main. Anyone think either isn't going to happen?


  • #200
    dusty bin
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    randomchild wrote: »
    I have some money in my paddy power account so have lumped it into Braun taking the Andre the Giant and Becky winning the main. Anyone think either isn't going to happen?

    Becky better. As for the ATGMBR, anyones guess. Them big fells never usually do well in them. Of the top of my head I can remember Baron Corbin, Cesaro, Matt Hardy (didnt he?) and Mojo Rawley all winning. There's more randoms there than in a a packet of rowentree randoms.


  • #201
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Not trying to be a mod or anything but it's probably best not to mention the betting in here. One guy mentioned how Rollins was 1/5 right before the Rumble started and it kinda ruined any suspense for a few in here.

    There is a wrestling betting thread though...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056587637

    Edit: New page, forgot to quote the guy who mentioned it on the previous page.


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