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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    JR officially signed up now which is no surprise really for commentary and as a senior advisor

    Its good for name value but hes well past his best and was especially terrible at his last mae young classic i honestly get put off if i have to listen to him if/when they get the tv every week

    https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1113477159534747648


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "The most lucrative deal in pro wrestling commentary history"

    This is why this nonsense will last 18 months at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Is that tweet an actual fact?

    Are we allowed to discuss this now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    What an embarrassment. JR hasn't been good on commentary in over 15 years, and as for his advisory role; what does he know about modern wrestling? When has he last worked backstage in an office role?

    "Bah Gawd, we gotta sign this young stud, he's a collegiate champion in amateur tiddlywinks"... or something like that.

    Go away JR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Seems as though he may only be used in big match situations as opposed to being the play by play guy. Like most, I have not been blown away by his work much over the past few years, although I have read positive reviews of his NJPW stuff with Josh Barnett, overdubbing taped matches.

    I would imagine his greater strengths will lie behind the scenes. 45 years of experience has to be good for something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Monokne wrote: »
    Seems as though he may only be used in big match situations as opposed to being the play by play guy. Like most, I have not been blown away by his work much over the past few years, although I have read positive reviews of his NJPW stuff with Josh Barnett, overdubbing taped matches.

    I would imagine his greater strengths will lie behind the scenes. 45 years of experience has to be good for something.

    You say that his experience but most on here talk about how out of touch Vince is and he has more experience and listening to his podcast jr seems just as out of touch with this era of wrestling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    JR has experience, but that isn't always a good thing.

    He peaked about 18 years ago. Everything he has done since has been rubbish, embarrassing or boring. Or all three.

    AEW are just trying to appeal to a fan base that was watching in the late 90s/early 00s. Probably when Khan was a big fan.

    It's 2019. What next? Are they going to hire Limp Bizkit to do all their entrance themes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Brandi hinting there title belt will be the old mid south belt

    So bill watts gave them the belt then to use ?

    Edit: which belt is it ? The North American one or the Louisiana title ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Actually now that I think about it that the AEW title will be either based on or a exact replica of the mid south title isn’t a surprise. I mean Cody loved his dad and his dad held the North American title in mid south wrestling and Cody seems a huge wrestling history buff. Also now with JR on board that’s another mid south connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    sirmanga wrote: »
    What an embarrassment. JR hasn't been good on commentary in over 15 years, and as for his advisory role; what does he know about modern wrestling? When has he last worked backstage in an office role?

    "Bah Gawd, we gotta sign this young stud, he's a collegiate champion in amateur tiddlywinks"... or something like that.

    Go away JR.

    To be fair to the man he has signed some of the greats in professional wrestling in his tenure as head of talent relations, something wwe had failed to replicate with Johnny L before WWE brought in everyone with a name outside WWE.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Think AEW is badly in need of a few experienced heads in terms of someone who knows how to put a show together for broadcast, a showrunner essentially.
    It's kinda why I expecting a broadcast not to happen for a while.
    Stuff like lighting, to the camera work, people who may need to teach others how to work to their best value in front of a camera, someone in recruitment who has their finger on the pulse not just someone who can get tickets to PEG either & you need people who know wrestling to do that so it makes that experience very hard to find. Those who are available who have name value is a miserable list that I would not touch, JR would be on that list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    JR is senior adviser. The lads need someone like that to get advice from, there's nobody better. He's not a yes man like Bruce Pritchard, he'll be a great asset.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    ERG89 wrote: »
    Think AEW is badly in need of a few experienced heads in terms of someone who knows how to put a show together for broadcast, a showrunner essentially.
    It's kinda why I expecting a broadcast not to happen for a while.
    Stuff like lighting, to the camera work, people who may need to teach others how to work to their best value in front of a camera, someone in recruitment who has their finger on the pulse not just someone who can get tickets to PEG either & you need people who know wrestling to do that so it makes that experience very hard to find. Those who are available who have name value is a miserable list that I would not touch, JR would be on that list.

    They already hired the ex WCW/TNA television director dude. Can't recall his name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    sirmanga wrote: »
    It's 2019. What next? Are they going to hire Limp Bizkit to do all their entrance themes?

    I'd be perfectly happy with that!! ðŸ˜ðŸ€˜


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    That Mid South title is horrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,338 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    That Mid South title is horrible

    Well this is a guess Gerry but I don't think whether a title looked good or not was the biggest concern of bill watts from having watched a good bit of mid south. It wasn't meant to be flashy. It seems like a very straight laced promotion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Justin Roberts has been hired as ring announcer.


    Alicia Atout has been hired at the backstage interviewer.


    Alex Marvez and Excalibur hired as the broadcast team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    What’s the latest on their TV deal?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    The most recent update I read was May/June targeted for an announcement, Sept/Oct to start airing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Jim Ross is saying AEW will have a 2 hour live show on a Major Cable Network from October.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Hope it’s on a decent channel here too


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,977 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Hope it’s on a decent channel here too

    I hope it’s not on a Monday night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Loughc wrote: »
    I hope it’s not on a Monday night.

    They have trademarked the name "Tuesday Night Dynamite" and the show is scheduled to debut at the same time as Smackdown is moving to Fridays. Which probably tells us what night of the week their on.:cool:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,977 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Monokne wrote: »
    They have trademarked the name "Tuesday Night Dynamite" and the show is scheduled to debut at the same time as Smackdown is moving to Fridays. Which probably tells us what night of the week their on.:cool:

    Tuesday Night Dynamite... reeks of Monday Night Nitro about it...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    As names go, it does feel fairly derivative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Feels a very 80s or early 90s vibe off it


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Lots of reports that Turner will announce AEW at the upfronts on May 15th. TNT or TBS apparently, debuting the same week Smackdown moves to Friday. Basically, everything that's been rumoured appears to be true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Monokne wrote: »
    Lots of reports that Turner will announce AEW at the upfronts on May 15th. TNT or TBS apparently, debuting the same week Smackdown moves to Friday. Basically, everything that's been rumoured appears to be true.

    "Vince, I'm back in the Wrastlin' Business"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    So an AT&T Network that also owns HBO and John Oliver's show was having a dig a WWE.

    John Oliver to AEW :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    So an AT&T Network that also owns HBO and John Oliver's show was having a dig a WWE.

    John Oliver to AEW :)

    Its an conspiracy against Vince i knew it


    :pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Their TV deal can't come soon enough judging by the state of Raw/Smackdown this week. I'll definitely be checking them out even though I've never really had the time to follow the indies so I'm not that familiar with a lot of the talent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    They can't be serious about that name. 'Tuesday Night Dynamite'.

    It's not 1988 anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    They can't be serious about that name. 'Tuesday Night Dynamite'.

    It's not 1988 anymore.

    I'm not big on the name, but by the same token, it's a name. It's just not particularly important.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Well this is intriguing completely different than being reported since it’s launch

    https://twitter.com/411wrestling/status/1119009035485945856?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    sky88 wrote: »
    Well this is intriguing completely different than being reported since it’s launch

    https://twitter.com/411wrestling/status/1119009035485945856?s=21

    It's not going to be a time buy. Sounds like someone with an agenda got in the guys ear and he just started talking like it was a fact


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Meltzer and Front Row Brian are still insisting there will be a lucrative TV deal.

    There's certainly a ton of rumour on dark twitter that it's a time buy or a revenue split.

    I will hold judgement. Brian & Dave get a lot more right than wrong, but it is difficult to understand what would motivate a network to guarantee 8 figures to this company. They've little leverage and no track record. What would make most sense would be a trial period - 6 or 12 months - at a reasonably small number with the promise to renegotiate if AEW does big numbers. Still, it would surprise me if Ross & Jericho signed without seeing something that made them confident they were getting a decent TV deal.

    Sidebar, I often ponder the insanity of TNA blowing their Spike deal ***just*** before rights became as lucrative as they are now. If they had maintained even 70% of their audience from the peak, they would be earning 3 or 4 times what they got from Spike at their peak, would be hugely profitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Is “dark Twitter” actually a thing? It sounds terribly geeky, no offence!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    It's the first time I've ever even heard about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    lol

    Is dark Twitter for the Twitter smarks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    Dark twitter is a term people like to use to say they are getting the scoopz that aren't going to be talked about in public. Its the wrestling equivalent of being ITK in football.

    What's funny is that those who talk about dark twitter normally haven't a clue of what's going on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I would put more stock in Brian & Dave then twitter rumours for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭tvercetti


    Goldust Cody Confirmed!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    tvercetti wrote: »
    Goldust Cody Confirmed!


    I thought Dustin / goldust resigned with the WWE when the rumours of this came out previously?

    That was a very good promo tho to be fair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,884 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Blue Pants has signed with AEW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    As have New York tag team 'Private Party' and Pete Avalon.

    The roster is pretty uninspiring. Meltzer reported that the Bucks & Cody wanted to go with mostly new talent, not previously exposed in the US, and limit the ex WWE talent involved. I understand that it's important to differentiate themselves, but that roster is seriously lacking in star power. If the like of Banks and Harper get out of their deals, AEW should snap them up. Make a play for Ambrose too. Blue Pants baffles me. She was so limited in her NXT run. Perhaps she has a range I haven't seen.

    Anyway, the current roster:
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Sasha is going nowhere. Ambrose sounded like he was totally done going by that Shield special but Harper would be a sensible move. You need to have big men and Harper's a good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    Not sure what is uninspiring about having arguably 3 of the best tag teams in the world (Bucks, Lucha Bros, Best Friends), arguably the best wrestler in the world (Omega), one of the most influential wrestlers of all time (CIMA), solid veterans (Rhodes, Daniels, Kaz). You are also discounting talent like the Super Smash Brothers, Darby Allin, MJF who all have massive potential. Oh yea and there is also PAC Chris fn Jericho and all of the OWE talent.

    Their womens division is full of names that even I am not overly familiar with but I feel confident in saying they will blow away anything you will see under the WWE banner. Kylie Rae is a better version of Bayley from everything I have seen, Aja Kong needs no introduction. Allie, Bea and Penelope are solid if unspectacular. Sadie Gibbs could be something special and Hikaru Shida already is according to those who regularly watch Joshi.

    I am in no way a huge fan of The Elite, my reaction to them when they were in OTT is a running joke but to dismiss what they have built already as uninspiring is misinformed at best and spoilt at worst. They have built the strongest American roster outside of WWE in over 20 years. Dismissing them before it all even begins is baffling. And all of this is before adding in the potential New Japan talent when they come to a working agreement, which they will.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    AEW would want to look towards impact in towards of recruiting names. They've quietly build a steady roster with LAX, Blanchard, Su Yung, Taya Valkyrie, Johnny I won't call him Impact, Brian Cage, Sami Callihan, Jordynne Grace, Eddie Edwards, Ethan Page, Josh Alexander, the Rascalz and of course most importantly Scarlett Bordeaux.
    I left out Lucha Bros as they work everywhere.


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