Seems like a good deal on firewood....

OmegaGene · 16-11-2020 4:55pm

mjp wrote: »

I know it depends on how well they packed but on average what cubic metre would be in 1 tonne bags of wood. Quoted €60 for tonne bag of softwood. Dried but not kiln dried. Could I leave it in shed to dry out further and would that dry to kiln dried level of moisture in year or so? Paying €130 for crate of 1.2 cubic metres of kiln dried ash. Seller also has crate of kiln dried teak wood for about €80. Anyone know what it's like to burn in wood burning stove.

could be bargain of the year here

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chris_ie · 16-11-2020 5:07pm

Got the samples of Rocket Blaze today. Might give them a shot tomorrow (havent ordered wood yet...) Any tips on using the rocket blaze in a stove with a boiler? Break one up and light? Do you usually put a few in? I'll probably start small and take it from there.

Also if using Rocket Blaze exclusively, how many logs would you go through in an all day fire roughly, for those that do this?

mjp · 16-11-2020 6:17pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

could be bargain of the year here

tell us more

http://www.connollysawmills.com/contact-us.html

Based in turloughmore Galway. That's price collected from their factory but they do deliveries around Galway but minimum 2 crates.

Heighway61 · 16-11-2020 7:18pm

chris_ie wrote: »

Got the samples of Rocket Blaze today. Might give them a shot tomorrow (havent ordered wood yet...) Any tips on using the rocket blaze in a stove with a boiler? Break one up and light? Do you usually put a few in? I'll probably start small and take it from there.

Also if using Rocket Blaze exclusively, how many logs would you go through in an all day fire roughly, for those that do this?

No need to break them up, they catch easily from a firelighter. As per ecologs advice, make a H from 4 logs with lighter in middle. Have the bottom two touching the lighter. In my smaller stove I use two with oak log on top.

You will see when you try them how quickly they burn. I don't think they are feasible as the sole source of heat. I have been using them now for a week with oak and it works well.

Blowheads · 16-11-2020 7:23pm

mjp wrote: »

http://www.connollysawmills.com/contact-us.html

Based in turloughmore Galway. That's price collected from their factory but they do deliveries around Galway but minimum 2 crates.

Before anyone gets too excited that lose packed, akin to a half tonne bag job

Muahahaha · 16-11-2020 7:50pm

mjp wrote: »

I know it depends on how well they packed but on average what cubic metre would be in 1 tonne bags of wood. Quoted €60 for tonne bag of softwood. Dried but not kiln dried. Could I leave it in shed to dry out further and would that dry to kiln dried level of moisture in year or so? Paying €130 for crate of 1.2 cubic metres of kiln dried ash. Seller also has crate of kiln dried teak wood for about €80. Anyone know what it's like to burn in wood burning stove.

A tonne bag (or bulk bag) is typically 80x80x80cm so has just over 0.5m3 of volume but when wood is loosely stacked inside it also has about 30% of fresh air. So the bag would be the same as about 0.35m3 that is hand stacked well in a crate.

Drying in a shed with good airflow for a year will reduce moisture for sure. It also dries out well if you use an indoor log store and have it sitting there for 2 or 3 weeks before burning, you can get it down to about 8-12%. Get yourself a 20 quid moisture metre from Amazon or ebay so you can monitor it.

Have never heard of anyone burning teak before, I thought that was a much desired wood for furniture making so surprised to see a saw mill selling it as firewood though maybe it is off cuts. If you google calorific values of hardwoods you can find charts that compare the heat output of various hardwoods which will give you an idea of how it compares to oak or ash.

chris_ie · 16-11-2020 8:27pm

Heighway61 wrote: »

No need to break them up, they catch easily from a firelighter. As per ecologs advice, make a H from 4 logs with lighter in middle. Have the bottom two touching the lighter. In my smaller stove I use two with oak log on top.

You will see when you try them how quickly they burn. I don't think they are feasible as the sole source of heat. I have been using them now for a week with oak and it works well.

Had a coal fire on earlier and was down to the embers. Threw on a rocket blaze log. Burnt through very quickly! Bout half hour. Threw on 2 more logs there 20mins ago and made sure vents were near closed off once fired up, which was fairly quick. Not much of a glow now and temperature dropping. So not sure what I’m doing wrong. If this is the way they’re supposed to be I don’t think I’d be getting a big batch! But going by others on here I must be doing something wrong.

Edit: Those 2 logs lasted bout an hour. Once the vent closed down temperature just dropped. Will need to see when I get other wood ordered. Don’t think the rocket blazes alone will be enough.

Padraig Mor · 17-11-2020 11:58am

Got an ad on Facebook for Duhallow Sawmills near Mallow in Cork. Haven't had their stuff but prices on kiln dried oak seems good:
2.3 cubic meter crate - €350 (FREE 2 bags of kindling)
1.15 cubic meter crate - €185 (FREE bag of kindling)
Delivery included within 20 miles, with "minimal" charges applying outside that. Not sure how far they'll go though.

Irish Gunner · 17-11-2020 12:29pm

Friend gave me the name of the guy who she gets it from and she's happy enough

Rang him and said that it was €5.50 a bag(not sure what size etc)

Asked him what wood and he said Ash hardwood and I'd have to order min 15 bags.

We only got stove installed recently and not lit it yet. Don't want to blow money if no good.

Any opinion or what should we try first?

Muahahaha · 17-11-2020 5:15pm

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Friend gave me the name of the guy who she gets it from and she's happy enough

Rang him and said that it was €5.50 a bag(not sure what size etc)

Find out the size or at least the weight as otherwise you are buying blindly. Also check if it is kiln dried to under 20%. 15 bags would be unlikely to last you the entire winter, you would go through one of the net bags the supermarkets/petrol stations sell in one fire.

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Got an ad on Facebook for Duhallow Sawmills near Mallow in Cork. Haven't had their stuff but prices on kiln dried oak seems good:
2.3 cubic meter crate - €350 (FREE 2 bags of kindling)
1.15 cubic meter crate - €185 (FREE bag of kindling)
Delivery included within 20 miles, with "minimal" charges applying outside that. Not sure how far they'll go though.

Thats an excellent price and the cheapest here on yet. Lots of places in Leinster are selling 1.2m3 of oak for 240-270 so 185 is a bargain

deadduck · 17-11-2020 7:25pm

I’m sure this has been asked on here before, so apologies in advance, but could someone recommend a decent moisture meter. Had a look on Amazon, and there’s loads of options, so some hands on advice would be appreciated

savemejebus · 17-11-2020 10:15pm

deadduck wrote: »

I’m sure this has been asked on here before, so apologies in advance, but could someone recommend a decent moisture meter. Had a look on Amazon, and there’s loads of options, so some hands on advice would be appreciated

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003CSNV2Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Stallingrad · 18-11-2020 11:39am

Newbie to this whole kiln dried firewood thing, been using BNM Briquettes forever. Wow, why didn't I do this sooner!

Burns incredibly well, instant heat, low ash, no mess. The wood is stored in the living room and gives off a great Scandinavian Sauna vibe aroma, it also looks great stacked up. I also feel good that I am no longer butchering a finite bog resource.

If there are any downsides I'm not seeing them yet.

chris_ie · 18-11-2020 11:41am

Stallingrad wrote: »

Newbie to this whole kiln dried firewood thing, been using BNM Briquettes forever. Wow, why didn't I do this sooner!

Burns incredibly well, instant heat, low ash, no mess. The wood is stored in the living room and gives off a great Scandinavian Sauna vibe aroma, it also looks great stacked up. I also feel good that I am no longer butchering a finite bog resource.

If there are any downsides I'm not seeing them yet.

What wood are you using? Open fire or Stove?

Stallingrad · 18-11-2020 12:17pm

chris_ie wrote: »

What wood are you using? Open fire or Stove?

Ash, Beech, Oak and Chestnut and open fire.

https://surefirewood.ie/collections/surefire-special-offers/products/kiln-dried-firewood-super-jumbo-4-kindling-savers?variant=30983665549366

chris_ie · 18-11-2020 12:53pm

Just ordered the Jumbo Bag from Surefire. Fingers crossed I can finally give coal the boot!

Fine Cheers · 18-11-2020 1:23pm

Any info on these https://wood2go.ie/
Not too far from me but don't know anything about them, fairly new to the market I think.

masterboy123 · 18-11-2020 2:37pm

What's the difference between firewood vs hardwood?

Stallingrad wrote: »

Ash, Beech, Oak and Chestnut and open fire.

https://surefirewood.ie/collections/surefire-special-offers/products/kiln-dried-firewood-super-jumbo-4-kindling-savers?variant=30983665549366

Muahahaha · 18-11-2020 5:20pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

What's the difference between firewood vs hardwood?

Any species of hardwood can be used as firewood for burning. But you wouldnt find something like walnut or cherrywood on sale as firewood, they are valuable hardwoods that are used for furniture making. Hardwoods for use as firewood in Ireland are typically oak, ash, beech, etc.

If a fuel merchant refers to firewood but doesnt say if it is hardwood then you can assume what they are selling is the cheaper softwood like pine, spruce or Douglas fir. Softwoods are not as dense as hardwoods so they dont burn as hot or for as long. Depending on species you might need up to twice the amount of softwood to get the same heat as hardwood.

rebeve · 18-11-2020 8:22pm

My ton of rocket blaze ecologs arrived today .Fired up the stove in 13 x 13 ft room with three logs , left them burn for abt 30 mins and then I put a ash log in .

The heat is unreal , but you would want to use the ash logs as well to keep the costs down . Very pleased with my first test firing without coal .

Irish Gunner · 18-11-2020 8:38pm

Still looking for a supplier

Another friend suggested below

https://mulch.ie/products/logs-coal

How do their prices and products compare to others.

Branch near us so can collect them save on delivery

chris_ie · 18-11-2020 8:47pm

rebeve wrote: »

My ton of rocket blaze ecologs arrived today .Fired up the stove in 13 x 13 ft room with three logs , left them burn for abt 30 mins and then I put a ash log in .

The heat is unreal , but you would want to use the ash logs as well to keep the costs down . Very pleased with my first test firing without coal .

Yeah I found they did heat up very quickly. But thought they burnt quick too. Closing stove down to a glow the temperature dropped though pretty quick. But I’m thinking I need a bit more time to get used to lighting and controlling wood fires instead of coal.

Blowheads · 18-11-2020 9:07pm

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Still looking for a supplier

Another friend suggested below

https://mulch.ie/products/logs-coal

How do their prices and products compare to others.

Branch near us so can collect them save on delivery

Don't know about the firewood but the prices they quoting for supertherm is criminal

OmegaGene · 18-11-2020 9:23pm

Blowheads wrote: »

Don't know about the firewood but the prices they quoting for supertherm is criminal

Even the 10 bags for €210 is expensive
I was paying €19 not so long ago

Irish Gunner · 18-11-2020 9:51pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Even the 10 bags for €210 is expensive
I was paying €19 not so long ago

Thanks

Without having to go through all posts

What's the best firewood available in Dublin area

Cheers

FFVII · 19-11-2020 1:28am

What is a good price for 2m3?

https://woodireland.ie/Kiln-dried-Products/kiln-bried-firewood/

masterboy123 · 19-11-2020 7:20am

I am new into hardwoods but I would say 330 for 2m3 Ash or Oak.
Muahahaha can answer this better.

FFVII wrote: »

What is a good price for 2m3?

https://woodireland.ie/Kiln-dried-Products/kiln-bried-firewood/

Tony · 19-11-2020 1:11pm

I have been using Monahans lately , good service too. http://www.monahans.ie/kiln-dried-logs.php

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Thanks

Without having to go through all posts

What's the best firewood available in Dublin area

Cheers

chris_ie · 19-11-2020 4:21pm

Ordered from Surefire yesterday and just landed there now, quick delivery!

Muahahaha · 19-11-2020 4:30pm

FFVII wrote: »

What is a good price for 2m3?

https://woodireland.ie/Kiln-dried-Products/kiln-bried-firewood/

I got 2m3 of oak from Monahans for 350 but the price has since gone up to 370. The site you linked in 390 for 2m3 so Monahans are still slightly cheaper.

deisedav · 19-11-2020 4:42pm

chris_ie wrote: »

Ordered from Surefire yesterday and just landed there now, quick delivery!

Really is fast. Let us know how you get on with wood. I think its great stuff

Irish Gunner · 19-11-2020 5:40pm

Tony wrote: »

I have been using Monahans lately , good service too. http://www.monahans.ie/kiln-dried-logs.php

Cheers

Ordered 10 bags just for starters and short on storage

Said they cannot deliver till early next week

So see how this goes

chris_ie · 20-11-2020 5:35pm

First fire on now with the wood.

Started with 4 rocket blazes stacked in a H. Fire going fairly quickly up to good temperature. Added a log.

Once into got up to the optimum temperature, according to the the stove thermometer, I closed off the air a bit so the flames weren’t roaring.

Added another few logs. Temperature stayed in the sweet spot for a while but when It dropped a bit I added another log. Fire kinda went down and I had to open up the air again.

Through more logs than I thought. But completely cleaned the stove out before hand. So hoping once the ashes are established and a bed of embers it might burn slower and more consistently.

They should off a course on lighting and controlling a wood fire

ciarsd · 20-11-2020 7:34pm

ciarsd wrote: »

Any recommendations for 1m3 of kiln dried oak delivered? My usual two suppliers are out of stock and I'm hesitant in taking a gamble elsewhere without a recommendation, given some terrible experiences in the past with poor quality fuel. I am based in Dublin if that makes a difference. Thanks

Thanks for the suggestions, I did ring around and ended up with another order from Bioglow. They had no crates of oak left (I am only interested in oak), but did offer me a pallet of 32 x 40L nets of kiln dried oak. A first for me. That has equated to around 460kg of firewood for €230 delivered.

https://www.bioglow.ie/kiln-dried-oak-logs

The wood appears similar to the scraps of crate oak left from a previous order with Bioglow, fingers crossed it burns as well.

FFVII · 20-11-2020 8:29pm

my father is getting a new stove and is actually going to get wood pellet stove? Is that the way now? Is that what people are getting nowadays? Off topic maybe.

vicwatson · 20-11-2020 9:57pm

Tony wrote: »

I have been using Monahans lately , good service too. http://www.monahans.ie/kiln-dried-logs.php

Sound lads these

RonTon · 20-11-2020 10:11pm

Didn’t get delivered but collected from yard between 4 to 5 m3 of hardwood in Kilbrin, north Cork ,bit of a trek for me and had to get a loan of trailer but great value and easy to deal with . €350

Firblog · 20-11-2020 11:38pm

Bit better value than monahan's here, got from them last year. Exactly as described.

bailey99 · 21-11-2020 2:24am

RonTon wrote: »

Didn’t get delivered but collected from yard between 4 to 5 m3 of hardwood in Kilbrin, north Cork ,bit of a trek for me and had to get a loan of trailer but great value and easy to deal with . €350

Who is this?

RonTon · 21-11-2020 10:05am

bailey99 wrote: »

Who is this?

TinTéan

tabby aspreme · 21-11-2020 1:02pm

RonTon wrote: »

Didn’t get delivered but collected from yard between 4 to 5 m3 of hardwood in Kilbrin, north Cork ,bit of a trek for me and had to get a loan of trailer but great value and easy to deal with . €350

What size trailer for that much

RonTon · 21-11-2020 4:22pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

What size trailer for that much

Sry don’t know , got a loan of it. Double axle filled to the brim

tabby aspreme · 21-11-2020 5:01pm

Be a fine trailer for 4-5 meters, this trailer of mine is 12 by 5''6 and I'd reckon it holds 2.5 metres Max.

RonTon · 21-11-2020 5:06pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Be a fine trailer for 4-5 meters, this trailer of mine is 12 by 5''6 and I'd reckon it holds 2.5 metres Max.

Yup similar trailer but had sides up to top of of the front bar on yours

tabby aspreme · 21-11-2020 5:13pm

RonTon wrote: »

Yup similar trailer but had sides up to top of of the front bar on yours

You'd be ok then, some lads selling logs are way out with there trailer, and bag measurements.

chris_ie · 21-11-2020 6:41pm

Would a wood stove be much more efficient at burning wood than a multi fuel stove?

tabby aspreme · 21-11-2020 7:32pm

chris_ie wrote: »

Would a wood stove be much more efficient at burning wood than a multi fuel stove?

Don't know, wood burning stoves generally are not lined internally with firebrick, check the efficiency figures if you are buying something.

chris_ie · 21-11-2020 9:13pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Don't know, wood burning stoves generally are not lined internally with firebrick, check the efficiency figures if you are buying something.

Just curious more than anything. We have a Stanley Erin boiler stove. Multi fuel so has the ash pan below grate. Was just curious if, in general, wood only stoves were more efficient.

Muahahaha · 21-11-2020 9:26pm

FFVII wrote: »

my father is getting a new stove and is actually going to get wood pellet stove? Is that the way now? Is that what people are getting nowadays? Off topic maybe.

AFAIK wood pellet stoves are mainly for people who are heating radiators off them. Most people just heating a single room have a normal wood burning stove rather than a pellet one. If you go over to the Heating and Plumbing forum theres a good thread there on stoves with help from lads who install them and they'll know whats suitable for your dad.

Muahahaha · 21-11-2020 9:30pm

RonTon wrote: »

Didn’t get delivered but collected from yard between 4 to 5 m3 of hardwood in Kilbrin, north Cork ,bit of a trek for me and had to get a loan of trailer but great value and easy to deal with . €350

Thats great value really, if I had the storage space I think buying it by the trailer load is the way to go as there are significant savings over buying it by the crate. . Do you know what hardwoods they were or is it a mix of everything? And how long did it take you to stack the lot of it into storage, its a lot of wood.

Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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