Cyclists

One More Toy · 22-09-2019 12:12am #1

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic lights?

Tammy! · 22-09-2019 12:13am

Yore ma

Insect Overlord · 22-09-2019 12:13am

Oh boy, this should be great!

antiskeptic · 22-09-2019 12:15am

One More Toy wrote: »

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic lights?

Because the consequences, like those involved in many risky pursuits, are largely personal.

For the bit of risk they present others, see the narcissitic thread. Everyone has a bit of narcissism running through them

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:17am

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Oh boy, this should be great!

You said it....

Can you not permo ban for the suggestion they must wear a helmet as they aren't obliged to....

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:18am

I'm much more annoyed these days with YouTube peddling ads constantly..... It's really really getting to me...

One More Toy · 22-09-2019 12:18am

punisher5112 wrote: »

You said it....

Can you not permo ban for the suggestion they must wear a helmet as they aren't obliged to....

You're not obliged to wear a condom but it sure stops hiv

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:19am

Abba987 wrote: »

One More Toy wrote: »

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic

If a cyclist runs a red light causing a serious accident what are the penalties

They tend to die

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:19am

If a cyclist runs a red light causing a serious accident what are the penalties ?

jiltloop · 22-09-2019 12:20am

I'm a cyclist sometimes and when I am I stop at lights and wear a helmet. If i decided not to I wouldn't hurt anyone but myself.

What's far more worrying than cyclists not wearing helmets and stopping at lights is the amount of terrible driving on show in the roads every day. That's where there's a potential risk to anyone's life, you, me, your family etc etc.

Cyclist bashing is so stupid, pointless and misguided.

o1s1n · 22-09-2019 12:20am

Why not ask the folks in the cycling forum? I'm sure they'd be thrilled to answer your genuine query.

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:20am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Abba987 wrote: »

They tend to die

No they don't. Sadly someone lately i know was seriously injured avoiding a cyclist who broke a light. So what will happen to the cyclist ?

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:21am

One More Toy wrote: »

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic lights?

Do you wear a neck brace while driving?

Studies have showing you are more likely to be in an accident when wearing a helmet a piece of polystyrene won’t do anything against a 40 ton truck.

Traffic signs and lights are targeted towards motor vehicles, cyclists fall between pedestrians and vehicles. Hugging the kerb on a left especially where there is a cycle lane poses little to no risk and doesn’t affect traffic flow.

Cars speeding and drivers using phone are a much bigger issue

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:22am

Abba987 wrote: »

If a cyclist runs a red light causing a serious accident what are the penalties ?

Have they ever caused such accident......

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:22am

jiltloop wrote: »

I'm a cyclist sometimes and when I am I stop at lights and wear a helmet. If i decided not to I wouldn't hurt anyone but myself.

What's far more worrying than cyclists not wearing helmets and stopping at lights is the amount of terrible driving on show in the roads every day. That's where there's a potential risk to anyone's life, you, me, your family etc etc.

Cyclist bashing is so stupid, pointless and misguided.

You will hurt others if you decide not to stop at lights. They will either swerve to avoid you and potentially be seriously injured or hit you and risk prosecution.
I dont think its pointless at all. I think its rampant

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:23am

ted1 wrote: »

Have they ever caused such accident......

Yes. Its been all over the news too.

How could it not

Wayne Jarvis · 22-09-2019 12:23am

One More Toy wrote: »

You're not obliged to wear a condom but it sure stops hiv

There are other ways hiv can be spread though. What if you were in a room of people, one of whom had aids. If a mad man broke in and shot that aids infected person to pieces anyone there yawning would get that person's blood in their mouths.

One More Toy · 22-09-2019 12:24am

Berties_Horse wrote: »

You're on quite the tear OP, your phone should be breathalysed.

*Goddamn pesky cyclists, getouttamyway*

Drunk I am

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:24am

Abba987 wrote: »

Yes. Its been all over the news too.

How could it not

Please provide a link to support your claim

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:25am

Peeps be hatin.....

Seriously on this note, people are in too much of a hurry these days and life was suppose to be easier but with tech some things are worse and not only that we really shouldn't be working 5 day weeks or more it should be 4 day weeks....

Work is a curse and it has been designed to basically kill us all so they have no need to worry about pension deficit.....

They want me to work till 70 at least and I can see that increasing....

Do t wear a helmet but I definitely would advise one is better then nothing when cracking a skull off a solid object...

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:26am

Abba987 wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

No they don't. Sadly someone lately i know was seriously injured avoiding a cyclist who broke a light. So what will happen to the cyclist ?

If they are identified and found as a cause they can be fined and if they hold a licence points mat well be applied.

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:28am

ted1 wrote: »

Do you wear a neck brace while driving?

Studies have showing you are more likely to be in an accident when wearing a helmet a piece of polystyrene won’t do anything against a 40 ton truck.

Traffic signs and lights are targeted towards motor vehicles, cyclists fall between pedestrians and vehicles. Hugging the kerb on a left especially where there is a cycle lane poses little to no risk and doesn’t affect traffic flow.

Cars speeding and drivers using phone are a much bigger issue

Very true but saying this a trip over a step at home could make you wheelchair bound or even kill.

If one has a helmet it definitely can assist in taking some force...

I've had falls of bikes/motorbikes and I wouldn't be here only for helmets...

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:29am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Abba987 wrote: »

If they are identified and found as a cause they can be fined and if they hold a licence points mat well be applied.

To a cyclists driving licence ? In this case there should be a prosecution for the equivalent to dangerous driving and that's what im asking. Does it exist ? Can a cyclist be prosecuted for causing a serious accident in the same way as a driver?

uck51js9zml2yt · 22-09-2019 12:30am

One More Toy wrote: »

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic lights?

You mean like motorists who break red lights, speed,drink drive and use there phones?

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:32am

James Wide Fairy wrote: »

You mean like motorists who break red lights, speed,drink drive and use there phones?

And kill people on a daily basis.

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:32am

James Wide Fairy wrote: »

You mean like motorists who break red lights, speed,drink drive and use there phones?

Of course. But there are laws to punish this.

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:32am

Abba987 wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

To a cyclists driving licence ? In this case there should be a prosecution for the equivalent to dangerous driving and that's what im asking. Does it exist ? Can a cyclist be prosecuted for causing a serious accident in the same way as a driver?

Yes yes one can....

If they hold a driving licence this can be endorsed.

It's been done.

One More Toy · 22-09-2019 12:34am

James Wide Fairy wrote: »

You mean like motorists who break red lights, speed,drink drive and use there phones?

There are consequences vis a vis penalty points.

I'm sick of cyclists being so dangerous yet the most vulnerable on the road

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:34am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Abba987 wrote: »

Yes yes one can....

If they hold a driving licence this can be endorsed.

It's been done.

Thats very intersting / strange given they are not driving a car. Not doubting you just don't understand how someone who holds a licence can be 'more punished' than someone who doesn't

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:37am

Abba987 wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

Thats very intersting / strange given they are not driving a car. Not doubting you just don't understand how someone who holds a licence can be 'more punished' than someone who doesn't

If you don't hold a licence same bans can be given but it wine on an imaginary licence....

So when they apply for learning permit their ban will commence.... 6 months or year etc.

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:37am

One More Toy wrote: »

There are consequences vis a vis penalty points.

I'm sick of cyclists being so dangerous yet the most vulnerable on the road

A lot is just perceived danger, and not actually dangerous.
What’s more dangerous is the drivers living sedentary life styles sitting in their cars and suffering from Cornnary heart diseases

One More Toy · 22-09-2019 12:40am

ted1 wrote: »

A lot is just perceived danger, and not actually dangerous.
What’s more dangerous is the drivers living sedentary life styles sitting in their cars and suffering from Cornnary heart diseases

Then why do the rsa shove ads down our throats about how much space we need to give them eh?

Ally Dick · 22-09-2019 12:40am

Dublin city centre is too crowded for cyclists. They should get the f#ck out

ted1 · 22-09-2019 12:41am

One More Toy wrote: »

Then why do the rsa shove ads down our throats about how much space we need to give them eh?

Because not giving space is a dangerous, what you said was cyclists putting themselves in danger. The two are very very different.

Rodin · 22-09-2019 12:42am

Ally Dick wrote: »

Dublin city centre is too crowded for cyclists. They should get the f#ck out

And wearing dark clothing with insufficient visibility and breaking red lights.
Hate them.

Abba987 · 22-09-2019 12:42am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Abba987 wrote: »

If you don't hold a licence same bans can be given but it wine on an imaginary licence....

So when they apply for learning permit their ban will commence.... 6 months or year etc.

Never knew that.
But lets say a cyclist running wild causes a fatal crash. Manslaughter ? Has it ever been done?

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:43am

I see some serious dangerous close calls daily in Dublin and yes the roads are too small so honestly don't pass until safe to do so....

I've had cyclists hit me in car and bus and their fault but they will win hands down if they claim and especially if they have a good solicitor

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 12:45am

Abba987 wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

Never knew that.
But lets say a cyclist running wild causes a fatal crash. Manslaughter ? Has it ever been done?

I can't say but it is something I'm sure could be tried if found they really were to blame.

Look at UK cop shows over the years and we usually following after 10 years or so.

Yer Da sells Avon · 22-09-2019 1:09am

Ally Dick wrote: »

Dublin city centre is too crowded for cyclists. They should get the f#ck out

Cars need to get the fuck out of the city centre. Also, on-street parking needs to be banned on all bus routes, thus making it quicker to use public transport, and easier and safer to cycle.

Pinch Flat · 22-09-2019 1:13am

One More Toy wrote: »

Why do they never wear a helmet or adhere to road signs/traffic lights?

I’m always in awe of people who start these threads. They pose the questions that everyone is afraid to ask. Well done OP.

Ally Dick · 22-09-2019 1:15am

You have to watch yourself like a hawk in Dublin city centre. There are cycling maniacs everywhere. It gets worse every year. I have never seen anything like it. The cycle lanes along the canal are very generous, yet many cycles ignore them and cycle on the other side of the road, causing buses etc to have to go around them. Completely inconsiderate lunatics

ted1 · 22-09-2019 1:19am

Ally Dick wrote: »

cycle on the other side of the road, causing buses etc to have to go around them. Completely inconsiderate lunatics

As oppposed to the individuals driving 15 foot long cars that are 7 feet wide ? Cyclists aren’t the problem in town.

Pinch Flat · 22-09-2019 1:22am

ted1 wrote: »

As oppposed to the individuals driving 15 foot long cars that are 7 feet wide ? Cyclists aren’t the problem in town.

Dublin drivers are amazing, some of the safest and most considerate in the world. I read somewhere recently that the EU are sending over a delegation to understand how we run a city dominated by 20% full private cars so well.

punisher5112 · 22-09-2019 1:27am

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Dublin drivers are amazing, some of the safest and most considerate in the world. I read somewhere recently that the EU are sending over a delegation to understand how we run a city dominated by 20% full private cars so well.

I'd love to meet these....

I drive through the city and have looked for huge improvement but get not answer ...

Podge_irl · 22-09-2019 1:36am

Abba987 wrote: »

Never knew that.
But lets say a cyclist running wild causes a fatal crash. Manslaughter ? Has it ever been done?

Has a motorist ever been done for manslaughter? They kill about 20000% more people after all.

AllForIt · 22-09-2019 1:50am

Abba987 wrote: »

If a cyclist runs a red light causing a serious accident what are the penalties ?

Don't know hasn't happened yet.

Your Face · 22-09-2019 2:02am

I think the issue should be reviewed at a government level, hopefully with the outcome of all cyclists being drowned in their own piss.

Mrs OBumble · 22-09-2019 2:06am

jiltloop wrote: »

I'm a cyclist sometimes and when I am I stop at lights and wear a helmet. If i decided not to I wouldn't hurt anyone but myself.

And the pedestrian you hit.

And the taxpayers who have to pay for your treatment.

I've had a legally parked car given a couple of thousand euro worth of damage by a cyclist who managed to run in to it. God only know how he didn't kill himself. But he had the cheek to suggest that my insurance should cover the costs, because he didn't have any.

prinzeugen · 22-09-2019 2:10am

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Cars need to get the fuck out of the city centre. Also, on-street parking needs to be banned on all bus routes, thus making it quicker to use public transport, and easier and safer to cycle.

You know the "city centre" will not exist then? Look at the UK. Barren wastelands . It is utter bull****.

The same bull**** is being told to people about the bus connects con.

Trees are going to be felled to put in cyclelanes. It has nothing to do with the busses!

Cyclists are a bunch of selfish ****. Its always about them, always on the moral high, always dictating to others about road law when few of them follow it themselves.

Everything is the fault of someone else. Be it roads or accidents. Never the cyclists fault though....

bilbot79 · 22-09-2019 2:19am

There should really be cycling bridges built over crossroads etc like connelly bridge. There should be huge investment in keeping cyclists and motorists separated

Yer Da sells Avon · 22-09-2019 2:54am

prinzeugen wrote: »

You know the "city centre" will not exist then? Look at the UK. Barren wastelands . It is utter bull****.

The same bull**** is being told to people about the bus connects con.

Trees are going to be felled to put in cyclelanes. It has nothing to do with the busses!

Cyclists are a bunch of selfish ****. Its always about them, always on the moral high, always dictating to others about road law when few of them follow it themselves.

Everything is the fault of someone else. Be it roads or accidents. Never the cyclists fault though....

Thickest post I've seen on Boards in... hours.

Far from 'ceasing to exist' (what a stupid comment), the city centre would be a far nicer place if it wasn't clogged up with cars.

The exact same 'selfishness' generalisation could be made about the thousands of single-occupant vehicles on the streets at any given time - the main differences being that they cause more pollution, kill more people and take up a lot more space than cyclists.

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