Tommy Robinson jailed

mrsoundie · 02-05-2019 10:20pm

From last year but it does give an insight to what caused alot of this.

Billy86 · 02-05-2019 10:38pm

enricoh wrote: »

Charles Ingles wrote: »

He must have some sort of support base or he wouldn't run?

He exposed an almost industrial scale of child grooming by pakistani gangs in the uk.
When no one in power or the media wanted to know about it.
So hes done more of worth than any politician hes running against.

You mean the ones that were exposed before Tommy even starting covering it, and who he did his very best to get let off on a mistrial? Yeah, the guy is a hero alright.

Maybe he should focus on the EDL pedophiles also, don't you think? I mean he founded the group and has plenty of contacts in it, he could actually dig up some extremely useful information there to bring pedophiles to justice. Doesn't it frustrate you a little that he simply chooses not to, and that he has even gone to defend them in the past instead?

Hitch2222 · 02-05-2019 10:39pm

enricoh wrote: »

Im not to bothered about their fitting in with our cultural norms, i am bothered about my taxes paying their dole while they spin around looking to rob stuff out of my farm!

Clearly with the stance you've taken on issues here thus far, I wouldn't expect you to be bothered.

Taking a myopic view is your choice but it obviously doesn't allow you to see enough that would dissolve a view that solves nothing but likely incites more than anything.

batgoat · 02-05-2019 10:52pm

For a comparison. This is Tommy Robinson supporters in Warrington but the milkshake guy is the problem apparently...
https://twitter.com/WillBlackWriter/status/1124022118130311168?s=19

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 10:53pm

4 or 5 lads ganging up on one.

Proper hardy bastards this lot.

RWCNT · 02-05-2019 10:56pm

batgoat wrote: »

For a comparison. This is Tommy Robinson supporters in Warrington but the milkshake guy is the problem apparently...
https://twitter.com/WillBlackWriter/status/1124022118130311168?s=19

What's supposed to be happening here? I don't even see any delicious milkshakes.

SnakePlissken · 02-05-2019 10:58pm

Faugheen wrote: »

Charles Ingles wrote: »

No defending that.
Im shocked not that I would assume the average edl member is an upstanding member of society.
Maybe this is the reason Tommy Robinson distanced himself from the edl.
My point was there is a major problem with rape gangs in the UK that nobody wants to talk about

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leader

Nope, Stephen just doubled down and claimed one of his mates was being 'stitched up'.

Until the facts became clear and then, not only did Tommy Robinson openly condemn Richard Price, he also threw him out of the EDL, futhermore, Tommy Robinson left said organisation over 6 years ago.

SnakePlissken · 02-05-2019 11:05pm

enricoh wrote: »

Maybe tommys views were the catalyst for the pakistani grooming gangs to go raping and drugging teenagers

Fook me, you actually typed that? Jesus.

02-05-2019 11:06pm

Tommy Robinson, like it or not, is a candidate for the European Parliament. He should be allowed to campaign unmolested. Anyone who is happy to see violence against him are the same people who ironically call his supporters violent fascist thugs.

Some undoubtedly are. Some are not.

When anyone who supports violence against someone because they don't like their views, whether they are left or right,a supporter or in opposition to Robinson, are disgraces.

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tommy Robinson, like it or not, is a candidate for the European Parliament. He should be allowed to campaign unmolested. Anyone who is happy to see violence against him are the same people who ironically call his supporters violent fascist thugs.

Some undoubtedly are. Some are not.

When anyone who supports violence against someone because they don't like their views, whether they are left or right,a supporter or in opposition to Robinson, are disgraces.

And British citizens should be allowed to go about their business without being tarred with the same brush as other people just because of their religion.

You incite hatred, your going to get hatred. He’s a bully and deserves everything he gets.

02-05-2019 11:13pm

Faugheen wrote:

You incite hatred, your going to get hatred. Heâ€™s a bully and deserves everything he gets.

I disagree

batgoat · 02-05-2019 11:15pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tommy Robinson, like it or not, is a candidate for the European Parliament. He should be allowed to campaign unmolested. Anyone who is happy to see violence against him are the same people who ironically call his supporters violent fascist thugs.

Some undoubtedly are. Some are not.

When anyone who supports violence against someone because they don't like their views, whether they are left or right,a supporter or in opposition to Robinson, are disgraces.

There was actually violence perpetrated by Robinson supporters. A milkshake to the face is more uncomfortable and he completely deserves it.

Charles Ingles · 02-05-2019 11:17pm

Faugheen wrote: »

4 or 5 lads ganging up on one.

Proper hardy bastards this lot.

You never answered my question earlier (unsurprisingly)
Do you have any sympathy for Garda McCabe

02-05-2019 11:18pm

batgoat wrote:

There was actually violence perpetrated by Robinson supporters. A milkshake to the face is more uncomfortable and he completely deserves it.

I condemn that too

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I disagree

You disagree that British citizens should be allowed to go about their every day lives without being prejudged due to their religion?

I know you cut that part out of the post, but the part you quoted on it’s own is completely out of context without the first part, so I want to make sure that’s what you’re saying.

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:21pm

Charles Ingles wrote: »

You never answered my question earlier (unsurprisingly)
Do you have any sympathy for Garda McCabe

You have failed to answer numerous questions of mine over the last few days.

So with all due respect, go away.

Charles Ingles · 02-05-2019 11:25pm

Faugheen wrote: »

You have failed to answer numerous questions of mine over the last few days.

So with all due respect, go away.

Yet again I've won another debate with you, very easy this time.
As Alan partridge would say,,,, back of the net!!

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:26pm

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Yet again I've won another debate with you, very easy this time.
As Alan partridge would say,,,, back of the net!!

Ok.

Hurrache · 02-05-2019 11:33pm

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Yet again I've won another debate with you, very easy this time.
As Alan partridge would say,,,, back of the net!!

You're some imateur eejit, site wide.

Larbre34 · 02-05-2019 11:36pm

Real cash money to anyone who keeps the milkshake bombs going on SYL every day!

bubbles o hara · 02-05-2019 11:42pm

Faugheen wrote: »

And British citizens should be allowed to go about their business without being tarred with the same brush as other people just because of their religion.

You incite hatred, your going to get hatred. He’s a bully and deserves everything he gets.

By your statement, may we presume you'd be okay if instead of a milkshake, he'd had a corrosive liquid thrown in his face?

02-05-2019 11:43pm

Faugheen wrote:

You disagree that British citizens should be allowed to go about their every day lives without being prejudged due to their religion?

I am aware of videos which do indeed make him look like a bigot but there are other videos he has made in which he explains his words.

You and i both know this. You choose to believe he is a bigot and i happen to give him the benefit of the doubt. I am not saying you are wrong, but I disagree with you.

I abhor and oppose violence, especially when it comes to politics and censorship.
I think Carl Benjamin is doing a better job than Robinson at getting his message across.

Tommy Robinson is undoubtedly a polarising character but I certainly don't support violence against him.

You seem to not mind it when it happens to someone who you feel deserves it.

MrFresh · 02-05-2019 11:43pm

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Until the facts became clear and then, not only did Tommy Robinson openly condemn Richard Price, he also threw him out of the EDL, futhermore, Tommy Robinson left said organisation over 6 years ago.

Didn't he stick by him after the conviction?

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:50pm

bubbles o hara wrote: »

[/B]By your statement, may we presume you'd be okay if instead of a milkshake, he'd had a corrosive liquid thrown in his face?

I'll wait until that happens before making a judgement on it.

Wouldn't want to be prejudicial of people now, would we?

02-05-2019 11:52pm

Faugheen wrote:

I'll wait until that happens before making a judgement on it.

That's disgusting

bubbles o hara · 02-05-2019 11:55pm

Faugheen wrote: »

I'll wait until that happens before making a judgement on it.

Wouldn't want to be prejudicial of people now, would we?

Thank you for your polite reply, it's told me all I needed to know about you.

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:57pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am aware of videos which do indeed make him look like a bigot but there are other videos he has made in which he explains his words.

You and i both know this. You choose to believe he is a bigot and i happen to give him the benefit of the doubt. I am not saying you are wrong, but I disagree with you.

I abhor and oppose violence, especially when it comes to politics and censorship.
I think Carl Benjamin is doing a better job than Robinson at getting his message across.

Tommy Robinson is undoubtedly a polarising character but I certainly don't support violence against him.

You seem to not mind it when it happens to someone who you feel deserves it.

The problem is that he makes these outlandish statements which is designed to drum up interest and provoke a reaction.

Later, he'll 'clarify' his comments, but the damage is already done.

He'll go through the same process again, and again, and again and the results are the same. He sparks a reaction through doing it.

It was the exact same after Lee Rigby was killed. Tarring all Muslim's with the same brush before later clarifying what he meant but only after he had incited all of the hatred.

If he did it once, I'd believe him, but he doesn't. He does the same thing every single time and the same fools fall for it.

I wouldn't be a fan of violence, but I have an even bigger hatred of bullies and the pack mentality that he and his buddies hold.

Even in the milkshake video, there's 4 or 5 lads standing around the pair of them while Stephen runs his mouth. From the video it doesn't appear that he's saying anything hateful, but he's clearly mocking the man in question while his friends surround them. That's an intimidation tactic, and is a common trait with bullies. The fact all of them go straight in for your man after the throws the milkshake shows exactly what their intentions are.

Billy86 · 02-05-2019 11:57pm

MrFresh wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Until the facts became clear and then, not only did Tommy Robinson openly condemn Richard Price, he also threw him out of the EDL, futhermore, Tommy Robinson left said organisation over 6 years ago.

Didn't he stick by him after the conviction?

Yup, and he was still running the EDL Facebook page about a year after said conviction. Which if I am correct, he even plead guilty to.

Tommy dropped him because it was becoming cancerous by association. Of course this was a good 6 or 7 years back, before brazenly lying to a cult of idiots with no interest in the truth became fashionable.

Faugheen · 02-05-2019 11:58pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's disgusting

I was asked about something that hasn't even happened.

How is that 'disgusting'?

dreamers75 · 02-05-2019 11:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tommy Robinson is undoubtedly a polarising character but I certainly don't support violence against him.

He is a Yob inciting other Yobs to violence against "others", he is going for votes to be an MEP in a country that wont have any in 2 months time.

Any violence projected on him would be karma for that he has incited onto "others".

He is acutally bringing the Yobs together, these are the same Yobs who travel to England matches and do wonders for the local economy they destroy.

I think this is ****ing hilarious he will actually get votes, thats how ****ing stupid these people are.

tbh with all the MPs going on holiday and fcuking off Brexit for a while he has done a wonderful job bringing it back to the fore front.

Vote Timmy!!!!

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:01am

Faugheen wrote: »

I was asked about something that hasn't even happened.

How is that 'disgusting'?

Lets stop being silly here aul horse.

Would tommy/stephen be deserving of acid in his face instead of a milkshake?

Or will you wait for it to happen to decide if acid attacks are to be condemned?

03-05-2019 12:05am

Faugheen wrote:

I was asked about something that hasn't even happened.

You were asked if you would be ok with it.

Faugheen wrote:

How is that 'disgusting'?

It's disgusting to allude that there would be a possibility you would be ok with an acid attack.

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:07am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Lets stop being silly here aul horse.

Would tommy/stephen be deserving of acid in his face instead of a milkshake?

Or will you wait for it to happen to decide if acid attacks are to be condemned?

Why are you asking me about something that has never happened?

I love how the snowflakes are all out in force tonight. Moral outrage for a man who had 6 criminal convictions and has defended a paedophile, while heading up an organisation that has contained dozens of them.

What is it about this man that people are so eager to defend?

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:08am

Faugheen wrote: »

Why are you asking me about something that has never happened?

I love how the snowflakes are all out in force tonight. Moral outrage for a man who had 6 criminal convictions and has defended a paedophile, while heading up an organisation that has contained dozens of them.

What is it about this man that people are so eager to defend?

Ive not defended him and I really dont care that he got a face full of milkshake.

Youve still not answered my simple question.

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:10am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You were asked if you would be ok with it.

It's disgusting to allude that there would be a possibility you would be ok with an acid attack.

Why is he getting attacked by a corrosive substance?

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:10am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Ive not defended him and I really dont care that he got a face full of milkshake.

Youve still not answered my simple question.

Yeah you do, otherwise you wouldn't be here defending his honour.

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:11am

Faugheen wrote: »

Yeah you do, otherwise you wouldn't be here defending his honour.

Ive not defended him!!

Ive asked you a question,thats all.

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:14am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Ive not defended him!!

Ive asked you a question,thats all.

I guarantee I could probe and probe and your 'skepticism' would go into full blown 'heil Tommy' within minutes.

It's like the anti-vaxxers, it's so easy to tell those who are pro-Stephen Yaxley Lennon but are pretending to be fence sitters.

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:17am

Faugheen wrote: »

I guarantee I could probe and probe and your 'skepticism' would go into full blown 'heil Tommy' within minutes.

It's like the anti-vaxxers, it's so easy to tell those who are pro-Stephen Yaxley Lennon but are pretending to be fence sitters.

What are you waffling on about?
One simple question to you based on your stance and you cant answer it!!
Fcuk tommy he did deserve the milkshake in the face because hes a **** stirring trouble maker.

Now if it was acid youd wait to pass judgment but I would condemn it no matter who was the victim,you on the other hand seem perfectly fine with acid attacks depending on who the victim is!

Billy Mays · 03-05-2019 12:20am

batgoat wrote: »

There was actually violence perpetrated by Robinson supporters. A milkshake to the face is more uncomfortable and he completely deserves it.

These scrotes aren't just his supporters though, they're his mates, his entourage, the people he chooses to surround himself with. They're the people who are out canvassing with him for votes. If are Tommeh doesn't want to be thought of as a scumbag maybe he should ditch the scumbags he hangs around with

03-05-2019 12:22am

Woodsie1 wrote:

Now if it was acid youd wait to pass judgment but I would condemn it no matter who was the victim,you on the other hand seem perfectly fine with acid attacks depending on who the victim is!

It really is absurd.

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:25am

Deleted User wrote: »

It really is absurd.

Its pretty crazy and the fact that i questioned his stance im already a tommy supporter

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:26am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

What are you waffling on about?
One simple question to you based on your stance and you cant answer it!!
Fcuk tommy he did deserve the milkshake in the face because hes a **** stirring trouble maker.

Now if it was acid youd wait to pass judgment but I would condemn it no matter who was the victim,you on the other hand seem perfectly fine with acid attacks depending on who the victim is!

I'd actually wait for the circumstances surrounding this attack that has never happened before judging it.

What if he had sent his entourage to attack a man of Pakistan descent for the simple reason that he was of Pakistani-descent, and he was attacked in retalliation?

What if it was a completely unprovoked (and I use that term very loosely considering he provokes hatred and violence)?

That's why I said I'd wait. The two scenario's above involve an acid attack but with two different possible ways it can happen.

Happy now?

03-05-2019 12:30am

Faugheen wrote:

What if he had sent his entourage to attack a man of Pakistan descent for the simple reason that he was of Pakistani-descent, and he was attacked in retalliation?

You'd be ok with an acid attack in this situation?

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:30am

Faugheen wrote: »

I'd actually wait for the circumstances surrounding this attack that has never happened before judging it.

What if he had sent his entourage to attack a man of Pakistan descent for the simple reason that he was of Pakistani-descent, and he was attacked in retalliation?

What if it was a completely unprovoked (and I use that term very loosely considering he provokes hatred and violence)?

That's why I said I'd wait. The two scenario's above involve an acid attack but with two different possible ways it can happen.

Happy now?

yes thanks
acid attacks are ok in retaliation according to you.

Like the dunne said at the very beginning...thats disgusting!

AngryHippie · 03-05-2019 12:32am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Lets stop being silly here aul horse.

Would tommy/stephen be deserving of acid in his face instead of a milkshake?

Or will you wait for it to happen to decide if acid attacks are to be condemned?

Thats one small step for a man, but one giant leap for whataboutery there.

Just a check on the timeline on the videos previously.....

Tommy Robinson gets up in chappies face with a microphoone lecturing him about getting shirty
Old mate shakes his head in disagreement then Dunks a milk shake on Tommy's noggin
Tommy flips out and his crew hop in with a few digs
The crowd jeer Tommy down the street for being a facist a-hole
Tommy's boys box on causing a bit of affray on the street ?

I'm not saying its right to use a milkshake instead of words, but if that clown was getting up in my grill with a microphone trying to tell me how it is, it would be a similar length of conversation.

The crowd will react as crowds do. They see a divisive hate-monger getting his comeuppance they jeer.

Someone on either side takes it too far and swings a hand or fist.

Running brawl down the street.

Tommy got exactly what he was looking for here. That is the sad part. He wanted to provoke people, its his only play.
When he is met with calm rational informed argument, he's got nothing but tabloid talking points to respond with and ends up chewing his own face off and losing the argument. (his discourse with Akala being a beautiful example of this. Face like a smacked ar$e after it.)

Unfortunately, you aren't going to encounter that on the street unless you've got someone stalking him around everywhere he goes shooting his "talking points" down everywhere he tries to turn on a camera. If any movement wants to counter this geebag, this is how it must be done. Literally follow him, pointing out the same holes in his same nonsense all the time. Then you'll see his underbelly real quick. Him or his crew will start a scrap and get themselves banged up in chokey or under a restraining order for public order offences.

What he does and what he stands for will resonate with many disenfranchised people looking for someone to blame. It's a low trajectory, morally and intellectually, but there are plenty of people vulnerable to this sort of BS in the UK after decades of "Shamless" decline and failures in the education system.

Not to mention the 599,999 other Psychopaths in the UK who just go about their daily lives with zero empathy that like him purely for "entertainment" value.

He doesn't deserve any defence, milkshake kid doesn't deserve any applause. They deserve each other.

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:36am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You'd be ok with an acid attack in this situation?

In retaliation to a racially motivated attack on someone orchestrated by SYL?

Yes, f*ck the racists.

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:36am

AngryHippie wrote: »

said some stuff

what have i posted that disagrees with what youve said?
Ill save you the bother...nothing!!
I picked up another posters comment about waiting to make judgement on a more serious attack and questioned that,so your massive rant was only preaching to the already converted.

Faugheen · 03-05-2019 12:37am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

what have i posted that disagrees with what youve said?
Ill save you the bother...nothing!!
I picked up another posters comment about waiting to make judgement on a more serious attack and questioned that,so your massive rant was only preaching to the already converted.

Preaching to the converted. You absolute bull****ter.

You're fooling nobody in this thread except for SYL supporters, imagine that?

Woodsie1 · 03-05-2019 12:40am

Faugheen wrote: »

Preaching to the converted. You absolute bull****ter.

You're fooling nobody in this thread except for SYL supporters, imagine that?

Jeez calm yourself down there.
I questioned your attitude to victims of acid attacks nothing more nothing less.

Tommy Robinson jailed

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