Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

Harvey Weinstein · 07-07-2019 4:47pm #1

Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges.

Epstein was arrested for sex trafficking of MINORS, considering who Epstein is connected to this is potentially huge and could conceivably see major figures in the political, business, entertainment etc world go down.

Interestingly a browse of the 'Liberal' media headlines from Ireland and abroad shows that they are downplaying/obscuring the most significant point that it was trafficking of Minors IE Children.

Eric Cartman · 07-07-2019 4:48pm

Bill clinton will be sweating it right now.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 4:49pm

Might be interesting how this plays out. My cynical feeling is that if you have enough political clout across both sides of the aisle things get buried.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 4:58pm

Remember he was an acquaintance of Trrump, Prince Andrew and others.

Blueshoe · 07-07-2019 5:01pm

He's a billionaire. He will be ok

Sonny noggs · 07-07-2019 5:02pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Remember he was an acquaintance of Trrump, Prince Andrew and others.

Others including Bill Clinton.

TheValeyard · 07-07-2019 5:02pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Bill clinton will be sweating it right now.

Prince Andrew may be soon having holidays in a country with no extradition agreement.

Lukker- · 07-07-2019 5:05pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Bill clinton will be sweating it right now.

Trump too

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310835987/Donald-Trump-Lawsuit

Harvey Weinstein · 07-07-2019 5:05pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Remember he was an acquaintance of Trrump, Prince Andrew and others.

Clinton being most prominent, having travelled on the 'Lolita Express' more than 26 times and often without his security detail. Many of these trips were allegedly to Epsteins island which is where much of the shenanigans were supposed to have taken place.

drunkmonkey · 07-07-2019 5:07pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Remember he was an acquaintance of Trrump, Prince Andrew and others.

Trump was never mentioned on those trips on the private jet, a cynical move throwing his name in there seen as it was Bill involved. This was well known befoe Hillary made her run for the White House. Trump's name was never in that circle. A case of the democrats trying to pull him down to their cespit.
Good by Clinton's, about time.

Eric Cartman · 07-07-2019 5:08pm

Lukker- wrote: »

Trump too

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310835987/Donald-Trump-Lawsuit

if that was filed any year before 2016 id give it a chance. why not any other year between 1994 and the year he ran for election.

Also I see that she applied for an award of 100 million dollars in a district court.. well above limits.
Paperwork would be filed and stamped so they could grab this screenshot and post up about 'trumps in for it now' before being rejected completely and nobody has to actually stand in court and say things.

volchitsa · 07-07-2019 5:13pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Trump was never mentioned on those trips on the private jet, a cynical move throwing his name in there seen as it was Bill involved. This was well known befoe Hillary made her run for the White House. Trump's name was never in that circle. A case of the democrats trying to pull him down to their cespit.
Good by Clinton's, about time.

So you're grand with smearing Hillary Clinton for the alleged actions of her husband, but touchy about discussion of Trump's known friendship with Epstein, whom he himself described as being like himself in his fondness for women, especially younger ones.

Like since when does someone get sanctioned for their partner's crimes?

Harry Palmr · 07-07-2019 5:19pm

That this has so quickly been framed in party political terms is rather depressing. The man is a perv, his own history is known and damning

biko · 07-07-2019 5:31pm

I'm glad he is arrested. Shows rich people are not above the law.

Dog Man Star · 07-07-2019 5:45pm

‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002

Trump knew exactly what was going on. Was he involved too? Plenty of witness accounts say that he was.

Blueshoe · 07-07-2019 5:49pm

Dog Man Star wrote: »

‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002

Trump knew exactly what was going on. Was he involved too? Plenty of witness accounts say that he was.

Clutching.
Russian interference 2.0. in this episode Trump is a paedo. CNN would probably run with it

Eric Cartman · 07-07-2019 5:50pm

Dog Man Star wrote: »

‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.’ - Donald Trump, 2002

Trump knew exactly what was going on. Was he involved too? Plenty of witness accounts say that he was.

Sounds to me like donny was trying to imply what epstein was at without getting sued, years before anyone else.

volchitsa · 07-07-2019 6:16pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sounds to me like donny was trying to imply what epstein was at without getting sued, years before anyone else.

"Terrific guy" and "fun to be with" - a warning? If I were giving a coded warning about someone I'd be a lot more guarded in my enthusiasm.

Blueshoe · 07-07-2019 6:17pm

volchitsa wrote: »

"Terrific guy" and "fun to be with" - a warning? If I were giving a coded warning about someone I'd be a lot more guarded in my enthusiasm.

Stop the lights

Il Fascista · 07-07-2019 6:21pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sounds to me like donny was trying to imply what epstein was at without getting sued, years before anyone else.

Trump barred him from Mar a Lago for trying it on with someones daughter: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/trump-banned-epstein-mar-lago-years-ago

TCM · 07-07-2019 6:28pm

Eric Cartman wrote:

Bill clinton will be sweating it right now.

+ Prince Andrew, allegedly.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 6:29pm

Il Fascista wrote: »

Trump barred him from Mar a Lago for trying it on with someones daughter: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/trump-banned-epstein-mar-lago-years-ago

Fair enough.

ceadaoin. · 07-07-2019 6:30pm

TCM wrote: »

+ Prince Andrew, allegedly.

And a few Hollywood stars too, allegedly. Some of whom have already been in trouble but seemed to have mysteriously gotten away with it.

drunkmonkey · 07-07-2019 8:06pm

volchitsa wrote: »

"Terrific guy" and "fun to be with" - a warning? If I were giving a coded warning about someone I'd be a lot more guarded in my enthusiasm.

It's the way he said young girls after saying they both like pretty women, your too hard on the Donald, I assume this was authorized by Trump, the Clinton's/Democrats got too dirty now there going to pay for messing with el President.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vh0AklSXkU

auspicious · 07-07-2019 8:55pm

So all those nut job conspiracy theorists raving about pizzagate a couple of years back were entirely wrong...?

Eric Cartman · 07-07-2019 8:58pm

auspicious wrote: »

So all those nut job conspiracy theorists raving about pizzagate a couple of years back were entirely wrong...?

surely this gives a 0.5% truth to the matter.... i would have said it would embolden them.

BorneTobyWilde · 07-07-2019 9:05pm

This arrest is an attempt to gain dirt on Trump, all political. So much of this stuff does on before an election. I expect Trump will come out smelling of roses again though. Funny how they are going after anyone with possible info on Trump, and using plead deals to encourage people to spill dirt on him to save themselves

Harvey Weinstein · 07-07-2019 9:59pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This arrest is an attempt to gain dirt on Trump, all political. So much of this stuff does on before an election. I expect Trump will come out smelling of roses again though. Funny how they are going after anyone with possible info on Trump, and using plead deals to encourage people to spill dirt on him to save themselves

Although the media will try and portray it that way, I don't think this is about Trump. Maybe it is but it looks like it involves a lot of people across the political spectrum.

Nancy Pelosis daughter today hinted as much

https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1147657745253855233

Guy:Incognito · 07-07-2019 10:04pm

Robert Evans did an episode in March.

https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/part-one-jeffrey-epstein-pimp-to-the-powerful.htm

Dohnjoe · 07-07-2019 10:14pm

auspicious wrote: »

So all those nut job conspiracy theorists raving about pizzagate a couple of years back were entirely wrong...?

Yup.

It's a "guilt by association" frenzy. Many famous personalities were friends with e.g. Jimmy Saville, even when rumours started to surface, doesn't mean they were automatically child molesters.

Harry Palmr · 07-07-2019 10:17pm

Bit much dragging the Fonz into this.

peddlelies · 07-07-2019 10:45pm

Can only imagine the fallout that will happen if this implicates any well known higher ups. Please let them all be named and shamed.

drunkmonkey · 07-07-2019 10:58pm

I can't imagine he'll talk.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 11:08pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yup.

It's a "guilt by association" frenzy. Many famous personalities were friends with e.g. Jimmy Saville, even when rumours started to surface, doesn't mean they were automatically child molesters.

Bit more than guilt by association here. He was hardly the only one molesting minors on his island.

He’s probably been protected up until now precisely because he could spill the beans on so many.

Dohnjoe · 07-07-2019 11:18pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Bit more than guilt by association here. He was hardly the only one molesting minors on his island.

He’s probably been protected up until now precisely because he could spill the beans on so many.

Complete speculation and borderline wishful thinking. Will wait for facts.

auspicious · 07-07-2019 11:30pm

Pelsoi's tweet says a lot. Sounds like it's rife and well known but a well protected 'secret'.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 11:31pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Complete speculation and borderline wishful thinking. Will wait for facts.

Why in God’s name would it be “wishful” thinking. What would I get out of it.

I can see why abuse was able to flourish in Ireland for so long.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 11:32pm

auspicious wrote: »

Pelsoi's tweet says a lot. Sounds like it's rife and well known but a well protected 'secret'.

It definitely means some democrats are likely in the firing line.

Dohnjoe · 07-07-2019 11:42pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Why in God’s name would it be “wishful” thinking. What would I get out of it.

I can see why abuse was able to flourish in Ireland for so long.

You are engaging in complete speculation and guilt by association. It's wishful thinking, people are salivating at the thought that some "elites" might be exposed. Happens every time there's a high profile predator/offender. Conspiracies forums are going berserk.

A surprising amount of people love this ****, engage in all the village mob speculative nonsense, and cover it all up with the usual virtue signalling crap.

Am only interested in the facts not the speculation circus

ceadaoin. · 07-07-2019 11:45pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yup.

It's a "guilt by association" frenzy. Many famous personalities were friends with e.g. Jimmy Saville, even when rumours started to surface, doesn't mean they were automatically child molesters.

It's more than "association". These people are known to have travelled on Epstein's private jet on multiple occasions to his private island where abuse is known to have taken place. Victims have testified that they were trafficked to rich and powerful people , and at least one of these alleged abusers were even photographed with these victims. I mean, come on.

BorneTobyWilde · 07-07-2019 11:50pm

Epstein still at it ,on any giving day multiple 18 year olds come and go from his home. The life of a billionaire. He's staying within the law, but clearly has't changed.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-07-2019 11:53pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You are engaging in complete speculation and guilt by association.

I didn’t engage in any speculation.

It's wishful thinking, people are salivating at the thought that some "elites" might be exposed. Happens every time there's a high profile predator/offender.

Wishful thinking would assume that I wished something.

This particular guy had sex parties to which he bought the famous and elites.

Conspiracies forums are going berserk.

A surprising amount of people love this ****, engage in all the village mob speculative nonsense, and cover it all up with the usual virtue signalling crap.

Am only interested in the facts not the speculation circus

The facts are clear that Epstein engaged in under aged sex and got a pretty light sentence for that. That he is now being investigated for sex trafficking.

It was once a conspiracy theory that the Catholic Church engaged in child sexual abuse, a theory that turned out to be true.

The only sanctimonious virtue signalling here, btw, is from you.

Gimme A Pound · 08-07-2019 12:01am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sounds to me like donny was trying to imply what epstein was at without getting sued, years before anyone else.

Now THAT seems like straw clutching/wishful thinking.

Clinton is a creep - I don't care what party he is affiliated with. It's not about republicans versus democrats for me - that would be nonsense.

I know too that people come up with right nonsense about Trump.

I can't know either whether there is anything to implicate him - hopefully not, seeing as he is the president.

But that quote would totally be held up by the Trump fans here if it was said by someone they don't like.

The actual meaning of virtue signalling doesn't match what it's being described as here, btw.

AngeloArgue · 08-07-2019 12:03am

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

He was hardly the only one molesting minors on his island.

I've heard talk of private plane dubbed the "Lolita express" taking powerful business, political and media friends to his private island hideaway for parties that allegedly included sex with underage girls.
Has any of this ever being investigated?
I know he was a billionaire that for many years rubbed shoulders with the rich and powerful of every political persuasion. He was convicted of soliciting minors for sex acts at his Palm Beach Florida home in 2008.
He has now been charged with sex trafficking.
I have not heard of any other suspects being questioned or charged. I've not heard of his Caribbean island home being searched for evidence.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 08-07-2019 12:04am

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

Now THAT seems like straw clutching/wishful thinking.

Clinton is a creep - I don't care what party he is affiliated with. It's not about republicans versus democrats for me - that would be nonsense.

I know too that people come up with right nonsense about Trump.

I can't know either whether there is anything to implicate him - hopefully not, seeing as he is the president.

But that quote would totally be held up by the Trump fans here if it was said by someone they don't like.

The actual meaning of virtue signalling doesn't match what it's being described as here, btw.

There’s one recent case where trump was mentioned. If he has had sex with a minor then impeachment is assured. You’d hope.

Dohnjoe · 08-07-2019 12:07am

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I didn’t engage in any speculation.

You did.

Bit more than guilt by association here. He was hardly the only one molesting minors on his island.

He’s probably been protected up until now precisely because he could spill the beans on so many.

is speculation, note the "was hardly" and "probably"

As mentioned, Jimmy Saville met a lot of famous people, repeatedly, they went to his house, he went to theirs, they had dinner with him, it doesn't mean they were "probably" molesting kids - although that was precisely the speculation at the time when the story broke. Am more interested in the facts than the speculation and wishful thinking

Gimme A Pound · 08-07-2019 12:09am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Bit much dragging the Fonz into this.

Lol I did a double take too!

Blueshoe · 08-07-2019 12:22am

This guy is a billionaire is politically connected and it's in America

Aka he is Bullet proof

volchitsa · 08-07-2019 12:25am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's the way he said young girls after saying they both like pretty women, your too hard on the Donald, I assume this was authorized by Trump, the Clinton's/Democrats got too dirty now there going to pay for messing with el President.

Yes I understood your point, I just don't agree with it, for the reason I gave.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 08-07-2019 12:28am

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You did.

is speculation, note the "was hardly" and "probably"

As mentioned, Jimmy Saville met a lot of famous people, repeatedly, they went to his house, he went to theirs, they had dinner with him, it doesn't mean they were "probably" molesting kids - although that was precisely the speculation at the time when the story broke. Am more interested in the facts than the speculation and wishful thinking

I don’t think you are really comparing apples with apples here. Jimmy Seville (whose actions were covered up by plenty of people in the BBC, the NHS, and other places) was never the less not running a sex trafficking ring which is what Epstein is accused of.

To wit.

The FBI had prepared a 53-page sex crimes indictment for Epstein in 2007 that could have sent him to prison for life, according to the Herald. Instead, he cut a deal with Alexander Acosta, then the US attorney in Miami, which allowed him to serve just 13 months — not in federal or state prison, but in a private wing of a Palm Beach county jail.

He was granted work release to go to a “comfortable office” for 12 hours a day, six days a week, despite the fact that the Palm Beach Sheriff’s Department prohibited work release for sex offenders.

Epstein’s deal, called a “non-prosecution agreement,” granted immunity to “any potential co-conspirators,” meaning that if any of Epstein’s powerful friends were involved in his crimes, they would face no consequences. And Acosta agreed that the deal would be kept secret from the victims, preventing them from showing up in court to try to challenge it.

The non prosecution agreeement was recently declared unconstitutional. As we can see it was designed to let him off the hook and protect “co-conspirators”. Which means there were co-conspirators. (There’s that conspiracy again). And why would someone try to protect these guys? Could they be powerful?

I’ll leave the working out as an exercise to the reader.

Edit:

Acosta is now working in the White House.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 08-07-2019 12:30am

Blueshoe wrote: »

This guy is a billionaire is politically connected and it's in America

Aka he is Bullet proof

Up until now, certainly.

Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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