Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

Inquitus

A good read on the circumstances around the plea deal, I wonder how many powerful men's heads were on the potential chopping block for such a travesty of justice to be facilitated by Alex Acosta.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

BorneTobyWilde

Jeffrey Epstein right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDEPob22tHs

BorneTobyWilde

The man knows too much, one call and he'll walk.

AngeloArgue

I wouldn't count on anyone else being indicted as a result of this.

It seems prosecutors at all levels seemed to be mysteriously on Epsteins side throughout.

Of the original charges of the 2005 case, police had evidence of scores of underage girls being solicited for sexual acts.
Palm beach state attorney Barry Krischer decided only to indict Epstein on one count of soliciting Prostitution after evidence of one girl
which omitted her age was presented to a grand jury.

The investigating officers and police chief Micheal Reiter were outraged and referred the case to the federal justice department and FBI.
The FBI took many witness statements and amassed evidence of crimes involving many girls, but the now Labor Secretary Alex Acosta, who was then Florida's Federal prosecutor decided to give Epstein an unprecedented plea deal of guilty of two prostitution charges given a 13 month sentence, which he was allowed out to continue his daily work, unnamed co-conspirators were given blanket immunity for unnamed crimes, and girls involved were not to be informed of the plea deal.

In 2011, Epstein petitioned to have his sex offender status reduced in New York, where he was living requiring him to register every 90 days. A Prosecutor under New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance argued on Epstein’s behalf, telling New York Supreme Court Judge Ruth Pickholtz that the Florida case never led to an indictment and that his underage victims failed to cooperate in the case. The Judge denied the petition, expressing astonishment that a New York prosecutor would make a request on behalf of a serial sex offender accused of molesting so many girls.

drunkmonkey

Ms Maxwell could be hauled in, https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-madam.html

Probably nonsense I read on twitter, but Epstein lawyer looked for a plea to give up names as long as he gets no more than 5years.

BoJack Horseman

The Clintons try to get ahead of the coming storm by releasing a statement

He admits being on the Lolita Express.... just not as often as the 26 times we know he was

https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1148365761171378177

mcmoustache

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The Clintons try to get ahead of the coming storm by releasing a statement

He admits being on the Lolita Express.... just not as often as the 26 times we know he was

https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1148365761171378177

In terms of the twitter age, this took a long time. Also worth considering is the purpose of Epstein's parties - get some powerful people drunk and tempt them with young girls. It's not a new or innovative trick. A poster earlier suggested that someone with as much testosterone as Clinton, or was that Trump... can't remember but the point stands - get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls, record it and it seems that you too could get a lenient sentence for the kind of thing that would get a lesser person a century in prison.


The only thing surprising here is that this hasn't been quashed yet. Despite being handled by new york, this is still federal, so it could be quashed by Barr or pardoned by whoever happens to be president. It was already covered up in Florida by the current president's Labour Secretary. Ironically, human trafficking is actually one of that department's responsibilities and he was questioned about Epstein during his confirmation hearing. I don't remember how the vote went but around 4 or 5 from one party and 50 odd from another party were ok with him. In any case, it was somewhat bipartisan.



There might still be an attempt to cover this up, but it might be a bit late for that. A lot of this is an open secret. The fallout will be interesting, whatever that might be.

mcmoustache

mcmoustache wrote: »

In terms of the twitter age, this took a long time. Also worth considering is the purpose of Epstein's parties - get some powerful people drunk and tempt them with young girls. It's not a new or innovative trick. A poster earlier suggested that someone with as much testosterone as Clinton, or was that Trump... can't remember but the point stands - get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls, record it and it seems that you too could get a lenient sentence for the kind of thing that would get a lesser person a century in prison.

What was the purpose of writing this paragraph?

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

What was the purpose of writing this paragraph?

To have it placed on a server on the internet to read by other people on the internet. It's been a thing for some time.


If you're more interested in the content itself, it's to point out that the likes of Epstein covers his bases. He doesn't care who's in charge. If he was compromising powerful people, he won't have cared about their political leanings so people shouldn't view this through a partisan lens. If, and it's a big "if", powerful people get wound up in this, it's going to be quite bipartisan.

kowloon

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Remember he was an acquaintance of Trrump, Prince Andrew and others.

Weren't there a few stories drifting around about him when all the Operation Yewtree arrests started?

mcmoustache

mcmoustache wrote: »

If you're more interested in the content itself, it's to point out that the likes of Epstein covers his bases. He doesn't care who's in charge. If he was compromising powerful people, he won't have cared about their political leanings so people shouldn't view this through a partisan lens. If, and it's a big "if", powerful people get wound up in this, it's going to be quite bipartisan.

"get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls" is just a bizarre statement unless you believe that men are by their nature liable to get drunk and want to rape underage girls.

drunkmonkey

What was the point in Clinton releasing a statement that could be false isn't that only drawing attention on himself. https://www.foxnews.com/us/billionaire-sex-offender-epstein-once-claimed-he-co-founded-clinton-foundation

The roundup begins
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/epstein_cartoon.jpg

evolving_doors

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls" is just a bizarre statement unless you believe that men are by their nature liable to get drunk and want to rape underage girls.

He's not talking about all men. He's talking about some men.
Anyway, that's what happened.

evolving_doors

The me too movement must have fizzled out.
Are there any significant protests going on?

dr.fuzzenstein

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What was the point in Clinton releasing a statement that could be false isn't that only drawing attention on himself. https://www.foxnews.com/us/billionaire-sex-offender-epstein-once-claimed-he-co-founded-clinton-foundation

The roundup begins
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/epstein_cartoon.jpg

Trump on the high horse? That is ridiculous.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I have to agree with those who say keep party politics out of this. Democrat or Republican, anyone who is revealed to have been involved was a sick fück, full stop.

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

"get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls" is just a bizarre statement unless you believe that men are by their nature liable to get drunk and want to rape underage girls.

To be fair, there's no need to get them drunk. Some old guys simply find an attractive young woman coming on to them to be too good to refuse and they don't need to be made aware that they were under age until after the fact.

Dave0301

Deleted User wrote: »

"get some horny powerful old dudes drunk and horny in the company teen girls" is just a bizarre statement unless you believe that men are by their nature liable to get drunk and want to rape underage girls.

He said "some" men, not all men.

It is even in the bit of his post you quoted!

Eric Cartman

evolving_doors wrote: »

The me too movement must have fizzled out.
Are there any significant protests going on?

That movement was supposed to knock the republican party for 6, but after it just got a few letcherous old jewish lads in hollywood, kevin spacey and a few democrats/ friends of democrats it lost all its steam.

mcmoustache

Eric Cartman wrote: »

That movement was supposed to knock the republican party for 6, but after it just got a few letcherous old jewish lads in hollywood, kevin spacey and a few democrats/ friends of democrats it lost all its steam.

Who was claiming that? If I remember correctly, this was mainly about Weinstein when it took off.

Eric Cartman

mcmoustache wrote: »

Who was claiming that? If I remember correctly, this was mainly about Weinstein when it took off.

It was but it only got massive traction with the trump election , timing was everything , people knew weinstein was a creep for decades, but it was a strategy to lump them all together. Ended up doing noting to the republicans and just jailed hollywood to the wall.

Stop moaning ffs

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It was but it only got massive traction with the trump election , timing was everything , people knew weinstein was a creep for decades, but it was a strategy to lump them all together. Ended up doing noting to the republicans and just jailed hollywood to the wall.

So it was all a conspiracy to get republicans and trump?


Seriously?

osarusan

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I have to agree with those who say keep party politics out of this. Democrat or Republican, anyone who is revealed to have been involved was a sick fück, full stop.

Until everybody knows who's involved, both sides will probably be wary of too much commentary/criticism, in case it backfires.

Eric Cartman

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

So it was all a conspiracy to get republicans and trump?


Seriously?

No. It was staryed to root out anyone behaving badly, but it was hyped and money poured into it to get republicans, when that didnt happen the cash dried up and it returned to being a small movement on twitter targetting mostly hollywood types and teachers but without the media fanfare and backing or big ticket ‘exposes’

Penn

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

So it was all a conspiracy to get republicans and trump?


Seriously?

Err... yeah. Of course. Journalists worked tirelessly for months following and corroborating stories about sexual abuse allegations against a film producer in order to take down the Republican Party which ended up not taking down the Republican Party because reasons.

What part of that isn't clear?

ohnonotgmail

Penn wrote: »

Err... yeah. Of course. Journalists worked tirelessly for months following and corroborating stories about sexual abuse allegations against a film producer in order to take down the Republican Party which ended up not taking down the Republican Party because reasons.

What part of that isn't clear?

well when you put it like that suddenly the bat**** insane becomes incredibly logical.

Eric Cartman

Penn wrote: »

Err... yeah. Of course. Journalists worked tirelessly for months following and corroborating stories about sexual abuse allegations against a film producer in order to take down the Republican Party which ended up not taking down the Republican Party because reasons.

What part of that isn't clear?

Believing that any movement that became big in 2016-17 stateside in relation to racism, activism. Sexual assault, gun control or minorities is non political or would have gotten as much traction without political donations is just living in fantasy land.

Stop moaning ffs

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Believing that any movement that became big in 2016-17 stateside in relation to racism, activism. Sexual assault, gun control or minorities is non political or would have gotten as much traction without political donations is just living in fantasy land.

Women all over the world coming out and finally being able to tell of the creepy to grotesque treatment they received at the hands of men theyve encountered in their lives wasn’t funded or bankrolled by anyone.

You’ve a serious amount of tinfoil on there if you believe otherwise.
But to follow, funded by who? And why? And where’s the evidence?
Thanks

Eric Cartman

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Women all over the world coming out and finally being able to tell of the creepy to grotesque treatment they received at the hands of men theyve encountered in their lives wasn’t funded or bankrolled by anyone.

You’ve a serious amount of tinfoil on there if you believe otherwise.
But to follow, funded by who? And why? And where’s the evidence?
Thanks

Do you think that this movement gaining traction at the exact same time that democrats are trying to pin sexual assault allegations on a republican candidate is complete coincidence ?

Stop moaning ffs

Fairly certain the guy who pressed charges against Kevin spacey wasn’t a republican sabateour. Nor the many women came out about Bill cosby raping them.

This was a groundswell long before your frankly silly conspiracy idea that it was all to take out Republicans