Open racism is ok if it's for the progressive cause.

The Highwayman · 06-06-2019 11:29pm #1

So as the title goes I was just flicking around on my phone and went into the Irish Independent and saw an article about some unemployed people protesting Trump in Dublin today.(Yes they were that lazy the didn't even go down to Clare)

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/thousands-attend-antitrump-demonstration-in-dublin-as-us-president-enjoys-casual-dinner-party-at-doonbeg-38189745.html

Now if you read the story you can see some of the placards of the usual dross from the professionally offended jobless.

I found it very ironic and with a roll of the eyes bloody typical that what would be considered racism is fine when this cohort of hysterical loons get a bee in their collective bonnet.

Naturally the Irish Independent proudly tells us that the illegal immigrant, Lesley Mkoko who hates white people was leading the charge. Hilarious! I wonder if I had a placard with "Be a good African and go home" how long it would have lasted, what kind of racist I'd be called?

Now you might like, hate or be totally ambivalent about President Trump but it does not change the issue.

Racism, bigotry and hate are all fine if directed at the enemy of the outraged mob on the left where they even celebrate a criminal like Lesley Mkoko because they are on your side.

Personally I'm sick of the double standard in the media and online when it comes to these kind of issues. You can scream and jump up and down about the catholic church but woe betide you bring up islam.

Why is that? It's an issue very prevalent here in boards. Where you can be banned for wrong think.

Now personally I believe in total free speech I don't recognise the idea of hate speech, so yes I'd agree with the great unwashed they can have whatever placards they want but only if i can do the same.

Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

SirGerryAdams · 06-06-2019 11:33pm

"We have to fight racism in all its forms and show our support for asylum seekers, the undocumented Irish in the US and also the LGBT+ community.

They forgot to call them illegals.

Calhoun · 06-06-2019 11:38pm

There was a protest at the GPO over the weekend, where a Palestinian woman said white Irish need to understand/check their privilege.

It doesn't matter to parts of the left that you say as long as you are on the rung of hierarchy of victimhood.

I personally would have thought standing particularly in front of the GPO it was a very bold statement but telling people who are supporting you to the possible detriment to their own economy to check their privilege is fairly ****ed up and smacks a bit of racism.

kneemos · 06-06-2019 11:39pm

The oddest thing among many odd things is that the Trump blimp got permission from the Irish Aviation Authority.

chalkitdown1 · 06-06-2019 11:39pm

U ok hun? xxx

Sleeper12 · 06-06-2019 11:40pm

Asylum seeker is now called an illegal immigrant? That is news to me. I read the link and failed to see all of the unemployed described in the op.

What is it about trump that his fans feel threatened about a few protesters? There were protesters for Obama and Clinton when they visited but I think don't recall people being outraged by the protesters. It seems unique to trump supporters for some reason

Sonny noggs · 06-06-2019 11:42pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Asylum seeker is now called an illegal immigrant? That is news to me. I read the link and failed to see all of the unemployed described in the op.

What is it about trump that his fans feel threatened about a few protesters? There were protesters for Obama and Clinton when they visited but I think don't recall people being outraged by the protesters. It seems unique to trump supporters for some reason

Did those protests get wall to wall front page and radio / TV news bulletin coverage including quotes and photos?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-06-2019 11:43pm

The Highwayman wrote: »

So as the title goes I was just flicking around on my phone and went into the Irish Independent and saw an article about some unemployed people protesting Trump in Dublin today.(Yes they were that lazy the didn't even go down to Clare)

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/thousands-attend-antitrump-demonstration-in-dublin-as-us-president-enjoys-casual-dinner-party-at-doonbeg-38189745.html

Now if you read the story you can see some of the placards of the usual dross from the professionally offended jobless.

I found it very ironic and with a roll of the eyes bloody typical that what would be considered racism is fine when this cohort of hysterical loons get a bee in their collective bonnet.

Naturally the Irish Independent proudly tells us that the illegal immigrant, Lesley Mkoko who hates white people was leading the charge. Hilarious! I wonder if I had a placard with "Be a good African and go home" how long it would have lasted, what kind of racist I'd be called?

Now you might like, hate or be totally ambivalent about President Trump but it does not change the issue.

Racism, bigotry and hate are all fine if directed at the enemy of the outraged mob on the left where they even celebrate a criminal like Lesley Mkoko because they are on your side.

Personally I'm sick of the double standard in the media and online when it comes to these kind of issues. You can scream and jump up and down about the catholic church but woe betide you bring up islam.

Why is that? It's an issue very prevalent here in boards. Where you can be banned for wrong think.

Now personally I believe in total free speech I don't recognise the idea of hate speech, so yes I'd agree with the great unwashed they can have whatever placards they want but only if i can do the same.

Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

No mention or racism either - in addition to the "Jobless" and "illegal immigrants" bull****. But you're not coming going to reply to these, are you?

The Highwayman · 06-06-2019 11:47pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

No mention or racism either - in addition to the "Jobless" and "illegal immigrants" bull****. But you're not coming going to reply to these, are you?

Wut? English please!

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 06-06-2019 11:49pm

Not seeing the racism. Is it the use of yank?

Atoms for Peace · 06-06-2019 11:50pm

kneemos wrote: »

The oddest thing among many odd things is that the Trump blimp got permission from the Irish Aviation Authority.

It's not a blip it a large balloon ffs floating all of six foot of the ground.

Sleeper12 · 06-06-2019 11:50pm

Sonny noggs wrote:

Did those protests get wall to wall front page and radio / TV news bulletin coverage including quotes and photos?

Yes. Maybe you only want to see the trumps protesters but protesters against other us presidents got plenty of coverage on each visit.

Has any other presidents sons get wall to wall coverage off pulling pints? It works both ways. The idiot & half idiot were well received and they got plenty of TV time here and in the states buying the village a round of drinks. They are getting much more positive coverage than negative. If you took a step back you might see that. Irish Americans will see this and its a major publicity achievement for trump. He's won Irish American votes from this trip

Arghus · 06-06-2019 11:51pm

Go home Yank.

Atoms for Peace · 06-06-2019 11:54pm

Growing numbers seem to be succumbing to a mysterious illness, symptoms include foaming at the mouth, incoherent mumbling, dislike of physical activity and waving Palestinian flags.

Sleeper12 · 06-06-2019 11:54pm

The Highwayman wrote:

Wut? English please!

Having read your op and claims I wonder if English is your first language? You don't seem to understand what racist/racism means. You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word unemployed or illegal immigrant for that matter.

Typical Trump supporter.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 06-06-2019 11:55pm

Calhoun wrote: »

There was a protest at the GPO over the weekend, where a Palestinian woman said white Irish need to understand/check their privilege.

It doesn't matter to parts of the left that you say as long as you are on the rung of hierarchy of victimhood.

I personally would have thought standing particularly in front of the GPO it was a very bold statement but telling people who are supporting you to the possible detriment to their own economy to check their privilege is fairly ****ed up and smacks a bit of racism.

That was dumb, indeed. The reason why Irish people support Palestine is precisely because we have a history that’s not quite the same as many other Western European nations. As the Palestinian ambassador recently opined. Northern Irish people see the settlements there as similar to the Irish plantations.

I’m relatively pro Palestinian but if you are going to import American **** then I’m out of it. Palestinians can take their cause to the US and good luck with that one.

bodice ripper · 06-06-2019 11:58pm

Arghus wrote:

Go home Yank.

**** that, I am not going back there.

JohnnyFlash · 07-06-2019 12:07am

The proper socialists (collectivised farming, nationalisation of industry, housing for all, distrust of small business owners) need to get rid of all this twitter nonsense about 200 identities and people suffering from micro aggressions. Need to realise that working class people don't like immigration either.

The 'far left' that people are getting angry about seems only to be about globalisation and capitalism under the guise of not trying to seem like a shíte because other people want a go at that too. Middle class white lads with about 7 ways of accessing the internet giving out about why other white middle class lads with 7 ways of accessing the internet are allowed have differing opinions than they do. Cucks the lot of them.

The Highwayman · 07-06-2019 12:12am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Having read your op and claims I wonder if English is your first language? You don't seem to understand what racist/racism means. You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word unemployed or illegal immigrant for that matter.

Typical Trump supporter.

Oh the white knight to the rescue:)

You don't like the term illegal immigrant? Fine illegal alien is more accurate and I know people like you get more upset by it so I'll use it from now on.

Your post points to your obvious ignorance of the United Nations declaration on refugees and displaced persons. Lesley Mkoko has NO right to be in this country under international law. Deport now and enforce the laws of the land.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-06-2019 12:14am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The proper socialists (collectivised farming, nationalisation of industry, housing for all, distrust of small business owners) need to get rid of all this twitter nonsense about 200 identities and people suffering from micro aggressions. Need to realise that working class people don't like immigration either.

The 'far left' that people are getting angry about seems only to be about globalisation and capitalism under the guise of not trying to seem like a shíte because other people want a go at that too. Middle class white lads with about 7 ways of accessing the internet giving out about why other white middle class lads with 7 ways of accessing the internet are allowed have differing opinions than they do. Cucks the lot of them.

Woke capitalism, some call it.

Geuze · 07-06-2019 12:19am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Asylum seeker is now called an illegal immigrant? That is news to me.

The vast majority of AS are bogus.

They are illegal immigrants.

Ruraldweller56 · 07-06-2019 12:20am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

It's not a blip it a large balloon ffs floating all of six foot of the ground.

It's one of the most sad, pathetic things you could ever ask to see and does far more to promote trump and his ideas than anything he could ever do himself.

I've always said his biggest asset is the people who claim to be so strongly opposed to him.

Arghus · 07-06-2019 12:31am

Open racism is okay if it's a thread in After Hours.

RWCNT · 07-06-2019 12:39am

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

It's one of the most sad, pathetic things you could ever ask to see and does far more to promote trump and his ideas than anything he could ever do himself.

I've always said his biggest asset is the people who claim to be so strongly opposed to him.

How does it promote his ideas? How are his opposition his greatest asset?

This is the most trite observation doing the rounds at the moment and it's never accompanied by any further explanation.

07-06-2019 12:43am

Calhoun wrote: »

There was a protest at the GPO over the weekend, where a Palestinian woman said white Irish need to understand/check their privilege.

It doesn't matter to parts of the left that you say as long as you are on the rung of hierarchy of victimhood.

I personally would have thought standing particularly in front of the GPO it was a very bold statement but telling people who are supporting you to the possible detriment to their own economy to check their privilege is fairly ****ed up and smacks a bit of racism.

That 'check your privilege' nonsense is not going to wash in this country. Whatever privilege we as Irish people have was hard fought for by our parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc.

IAMAMORON · 07-06-2019 12:47am

Another Racist thread, probably opened by a closet racist who thinks that by rationalising the racism that it is ok, as long as no one is racist.

I hope your happy now Op. Get on with your life and please stop being so racist. It's racist to be racist, it's pure racism.

Discussing and rationalising racism gives it an identity. Stop being a racist.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

dxhound2005 · 07-06-2019 12:50am

The Highwayman wrote: »

Now personally I believe in total free speech I don't recognise the idea of hate speech, so yes I'd agree with the great unwashed they can have whatever placards they want but only if i can do the same.

There lies anarchy. You cannot have total free speech. And hate speech can lead to genocide.

mdk_kdm · 07-06-2019 12:50am

Why do they call Trump a fascist and a Nazi?

Why do they even call him a racist?

Calhoun · 07-06-2019 12:54am

RWCNT wrote: »

How does it promote his ideas? How are his opposition his greatest asset?

This is the most trite observation doing the rounds at the moment and it's never accompanied by any further explanation.

Well you can see an example of this in the Doonbeg thread, locals that are happy for investment in their town are being looked down upon and going through the Irish version of being unpersoned.

Trump like the Healy-Raes, Lowry, or Mcelvaney trade on division. Its not exactly promoting his ideas as it is leaving people with an idea that they have to support him because what else have they got.

Nobelium · 07-06-2019 12:56am

Calhoun wrote: »

There was a protest at the GPO over the weekend, where a Palestinian woman said white Irish need to understand/check their privilege.

It doesn't matter to parts of the left that you say as long as you are on the rung of hierarchy of victimhood.

I personally would have thought standing particularly in front of the GPO it was a very bold statement but telling people who are supporting you to the possible detriment to their own economy to check their privilege is fairly ****ed up and smacks a bit of racism.

Common place now.

Have a look at this speech warning Irish manginas to "know your place", openly applauded and cheered on.

Calhoun · 07-06-2019 1:02am

Nobelium wrote: »

Common place now.

Have a look at this Irish manginas know your place speech openly applauded and cheered on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtpyB0GMVc - that white privilege though.

Nobelium · 07-06-2019 1:04am

Calhoun wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtpyB0GMVc - that white privilege though.

Ironic, seeing that Palestinian terrorists wouldn't think twice of executing any Irish person as an infidel.

Ruraldweller56 · 07-06-2019 1:27am

RWCNT wrote: »

How does it promote his ideas? How are his opposition his greatest asset?

This is the most trite observation doing the rounds at the moment and it's never accompanied by any further explanation.

Because who in ****s name is going to take a bunch of pro open borders extremist loons with a balloon the size of an opel corsa who claim they need council permissions to fly this thing 30ft high seriously? You'd have to be suffering a serious mental illness to think of it as some type of 'win', which it would appear many of his detractors suffer from.

I was never the man's biggest fan but **** me would I hate to be lumped in with the anti Trump brigade. That sends a chill down my spine.

Geuze · 07-06-2019 1:28am

Nobelium wrote: »

Common place now.

Have a look at this speech warning Irish manginas to "know your place", openly applauded and cheered on.

Did this speech occur in Ireland?

Ruraldweller56 · 07-06-2019 1:30am

Nobelium wrote: »

Ironic, seeing that Palestinian terrorists wouldn't think twice of executing any Irish person as an infidel.

They just don't get it.

Incidentally, here's one of the most stupid photos you're ever likely to see.

Protest outside RTÉ over the Eurovision being held in Israel.

No wonder people think these guys are bat**** crazy.

Nobelium · 07-06-2019 1:31am

Geuze wrote: »

Did this speech occur in Ireland?

of course it did, where else would it happen?

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/video-men-should-know-their-place-in-abortion-debate-rally-told-30526016.html

Ruraldweller56 · 07-06-2019 1:31am

Geuze wrote: »

Did this speech occur in Ireland?

Yes, sadly.

She'll be a Sinn Féin Councillor soon.

Geuze · 07-06-2019 1:42am

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

Yes, sadly.

She'll be a Sinn Féin Councillor soon.

OK.

How is this African person in Ireland?

Doctor?

Illegal AS?

Nobelium · 07-06-2019 1:47am

Geuze wrote: »

OK.

How is this African person in Ireland?

Doctor?

Illegal AS?

does it matter, such controls exist on paper only, not in reality.

Ruraldweller56 · 07-06-2019 1:47am

Geuze wrote: »

OK.

How is this African person in Ireland?

Doctor?

Illegal AS?

Clearly Doctor/Engineer/Architect/Brain Surgeon/David Attenborough

Outlaw Pete · 07-06-2019 1:55am

lol. Love this parody account :P

https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1136276603829440515

The Highwayman · 07-06-2019 2:06am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That 'check your privilege' nonsense is not going to wash in this country. Whatever privilege we as Irish people have was hard fought for by our parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc.

You'd think that, but its more and more prevalent in our university's these days. You ask the average fat blue haired feminists who hangs around the SU about your privilege you won't be long getting both barrels of nonsense. Unfortunately this is where it begins and spreads into society. Look at the US, UK or Aus it's like a cancer.

Outlaw Pete · 07-06-2019 2:56am

The Highwayman wrote: »

You'd think that, but its more and more prevalent in our university's these days. You ask the average fat blue haired feminists who hangs around the SU about your privilege you won't be long getting both barrels of nonsense. Unfortunately this is where it begins and spreads into society. Look at the US, UK or Aus it's like a cancer.

100% agree. This about sums it up:

The 'Late Night Comedy' one is particularly annoying as I used to love watching American chat shows. Ferguson and Letterman in particular, but Leno also. The latter two had political jokes and guests that would have some also but there was balance. There's a level of dismissal of the other side which I've never seen before.

Letterman was a liberal, and clearly voted democrat, but he didn't use The Late Show as a soap box nor did he let guests grandstand the way Colbert does and if they tried to, he'd make fun of them, even if they were expressing views he was in agreement with. Had Bill O'Reilly regular to ensure that balance even though he never agreed with one thing he said.

Fallon has done the same with The Tonight Show. Never really liked Leno but he knew there was a line was when it came to politics and that the show was there to entertain the whole country and not just the side that voted democrat. SNL another show which had historically tried to be impartial and lampoon politicians on either side but they to have made the show unwatchable the last few years.

Conan is about the only show now I'll watch as it is the only American late night show that gets the balance right. He'll have Trump jokes but funny ones and not overly political. Travesty that he was robbed of the Tonight Show.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 07-06-2019 3:03am

Calhoun wrote: »

There was a protest at the GPO over the weekend, where a Palestinian woman said white Irish need to understand/check their privilege.

It doesn't matter to parts of the left that you say as long as you are on the rung of hierarchy of victimhood.

I personally would have thought standing particularly in front of the GPO it was a very bold statement but telling people who are supporting you to the possible detriment to their own economy to check their privilege is fairly ****ed up and smacks a bit of racism.

There’s always some mad protest or other going on at the GPO. People just take no notice of them really. They tend to be pretty niche protests attended by very few people and often are just a single loon talking into a megaphone.

pjohnson · 07-06-2019 5:29am

Are the "professionally offended jobless" the OP and the other lads who see racism/nasty liberals/sjw's everywhere and have to create threads daily to cry about it?

Zorya · 07-06-2019 6:12am

Nobelium wrote: »

Common place now.

Have a look at this speech warning Irish manginas to "know your place", openly applauded and cheered on.

Oh dear. Always uncomfortable to watch people perform on the verge of an apoplexy.

Sonny noggs · 07-06-2019 6:28am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Yes.

Complete BS

Sleeper12 · 07-06-2019 7:44am

The Highwayman wrote:

You don't like the term illegal immigrant? Fine illegal alien is more accurate and I know people like you get more upset by it so I'll use it from now on.

Another well educated trump supporter reply.

An illegal immigrant is someone here illegally. A person who is here as an asylum seeker isn't here illegally & are not illegal immigrant or illegal alien. An asylum seeker is perfectly legal here in Ireland till they are either granted asylum or sent home.

If you don't have a dictionary in your house you can look up the meaning of words on the Internet. Internet can be a learning toolkit & doesn't always have to be used for negative hate speach and porn.

Baggly · 07-06-2019 7:51am

The Highwayman wrote: »

You'd think that, but its more and more prevalent in our university's these days. You ask the average fat blue haired feminists who hangs around the SU about your privilege you won't be long getting both barrels of nonsense. Unfortunately this is where it begins and spreads into society. Look at the US, UK or Aus it's like a cancer.

Mod

Tone down the hyperbole or don't post in this thread again. Thanks.

Sleeper12 · 07-06-2019 7:56am

Sonny noggs wrote:

Complete BS

You haven't been watching the news when presidents & Royal family or even the pope visit Ireland over the last 25 or 30 years so. There have been large protests at them all & well covered. Even the well liked presidents like Clinton and Obama had a lot of protesters and well covered. There will always be someone protesting for an American president because American is always at war and because we have plains with weapons using Shannon Airport.

The problem with trump is that he always has to comment on the protesters giving the protesters twice the publicity. Trump will argue that there were little or no protesters forcing the media to fact check him & show the size of the crowd again. Everyone else from Clinton to the Queen never mention the protesters that seems to follow them around the world

tigerboon · 07-06-2019 8:06am

The article says there's thousands there. All bar a few hundred must be camera shy

Open racism is ok if it's for the progressive cause.

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