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Hair transplant diary (ongoing)
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13-month update!
Hey guys. So today was my first haircut in four months. Decided to see what the hair would look like if it was grown fairly long. Answer was... not so great. Truth is there's only so much you can do with grafts that are there to cover a problem. The grafts I got were there to fill out what I had and look a lot better with the length haircut I've had in all the picture postings. Longer it went, the more I looked like Nathan Drake's brother in Uncharted 4.
As you can see below, hair is shorter than previous haircut. Left side looks thinner before due to the parting. I'd say that the overall hair is thinner than before (which was quite pronounced when hair was longer) but overall, still very happy with how things are going thus far.
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St1mpMeister wrote: »So where is the cheapest place to get it at the mo? Regaine from boots UK with Parcel Wizard?
Answered your own question there.
This was the most affordable option for me a few years ago anyway. 0 -
Answered your own question there. This was the most affordable option for me a few years ago anyway.
Cool, and once the new follicles have grown out, I'd like all remaining DHT-affected hair to fall out so I can get the rest replaced (donor area is great thankfully but I still have pending areas where hair will fall out over next few months/years and was too early to do it now).
So does hair fall happen pretty soon after stopping Regaine?
Also foam or liquid better?0 -
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Hello fellas. I'm currently thinking about getting a hair transplant done myself but I still have a lot more questions than answers at this point. The biggest question of all is: do you need to take, and keep taking finasteride (or anything else which may have a similar effect) for the transplant to work long term? I seem to be hearing different opinions. Having read some of the horror stories about finasteride, it's really something I don't want to take. Although with that being said, I am currently taking saw palmetto and astaxanthin. I did this out of curiosity rather than any real expectation..
Another really big question for me is what clinic to actually go to. I don't know anyone who has had this procedure done so I can only really try my best to look at reviews and get advice on forums like this.
I got mine done in Dublin recently availing of the Ailesbury Clinic 25% boards.ie discount (not sure if it's still available but worth a shot asking).
Very impressed with the results and professionalism of all staff involved. Had 3,500 implants (they ended up doing around 3,754!). I'm actually amazed that after only 3 weeks the areas I had done actually look like relatively full hair under normal light compared to the almost complete baldness before (you're not really supposed to see a real difference for a few months). The areas now look like "thinning hair" as opposed to "bald" and will thicken up over time.
The main reason I got it done is that I didn't fancy getting started on any medication that I'd have to take for the rest of my life e.g. Finasteride. So I haven't bothered trying out anything, even Rogaine, as I know I wouldn't have the discipline to keep it going while I'm off backpacking or on a few nights out etc.
Just get it done. It's like going to the dentist (albeit you have a bad haircut for 2 weeks after!) 0 -
Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »No, taking Fin is not a requirement in order to get a hair transplant but it is encouraged in most cases, especially in younger patients, in order to slow further loss. An additional reason that a hair transplant doctor may encourage its use is that if taken for a period prior to the transplant sufficiently long for the drug to take effect, if the patient is an excellent responder it may reduce the amount of grafts required for an acceptable result, or encourage the doctor to be more aggressive with placement knowing that the patient responds well to the drug or even, to be more cynical, simply because if taken at the time of the transplant will add to the perception of a successful result.
Note however that the efficacy of the drug tends to decrease over the years with time, so any expectation that Fin plus hair transplant means sorted for life is a misguided one.
I see that you take Saw Palmetto which is a DHT inhibitor like Fin, if you are worried about taking Fin, asking yourself why you don't feel the same about Saw Palmetto would be worthwhile in my opinion.
Just FYI one of the top clinics in the world were providing their patients with topical fin, https://hassonandwong.com/topical-finasteride-solution-prescription/ with a view to minimizing side effects but I have no knowledge of how successful it is in that regard and whether it is as effective as normal Fin wrt to slowing hair loss
Transplanted hair itself is not necessarily immune to MPB. Youre reliant on the doctor accurately determing the safe zone from which to extract donor hair but they cannot predict with 100% certainty the extent of your safe zone in say 20 years time, but top doctors should be able to minimiize these risks, which obviously are higher with FUE than FUT. Another, probably less likely possibility is, if your hairloss is more diffuse in nature then donor hair from within the safe zone may later miniaturise, but again hopefully top doctors would be able to recognize/predict this
With respect to getting a hair transplant and choosing a doctor, this is an absolute minefield in my opinion and even in 2018 getting a hair transplant is still a very big gamble for many reasons, not least achiveing a good result initially is not guranteed and even if a good result is achieved how will it look 10 years later? Will you have sufficient donor hair/cash etc. for further work if needed?
I'll try to reply with more information in a later post if you're interested but for now, with respect, I suspect that based on your questions you have a significant amount of research to do before deciding to go ahead with a transplant. Just my opinion, I mean no offence, it's just that you really do not want to rush into this and make some bad decisions that can have life long consequencesSt1mpMeister wrote: »I got mine done in Dublin recently availing of the Ailesbury Clinic 25% boards.ie discount (not sure if it's still available but worth a shot asking).
Very impressed with the results and professionalism of all staff involved. Had 3,500 implants (they ended up doing around 3,754!). I'm actually amazed that after only 3 weeks the areas I had done actually look like relatively full hair under normal light compared to the almost complete baldness before (you're not really supposed to see a real difference for a few months). The areas now look like "thinning hair" as opposed to "bald" and will thicken up over time.
The main reason I got it done is that I didn't fancy getting started on any medication that I'd have to take for the rest of my life e.g. Finasteride. So I haven't bothered trying out anything, even Rogaine, as I know I wouldn't have the discipline to keep it going while I'm off backpacking or on a few nights out etc.
Just get it done. It's like going to the dentist (albeit you have a bad haircut for 2 weeks after!)
I have done my homework on the basics but there is a lot to learn so I appreciate the replies. I know that saw palmetto is supposed to work in the same way as finasteride, but going by everything I have read, it is not anywhere near as potent, and in the cases where it did have a negative effect it was more likely to be reversed. Going by the Norwood Scale, I seem to be type 3 vertex, which is ''receding hairline and thinning hair on the vertex.'' So not too extreme. Although I do have a naturally high hairline and seem to have had a widow's peak since I was a teenager. Since the bald gene is supposed to be on the mother's side of the family, I asked my Mum how bald my Granddad was and she said he was similar to myself, and was never at the more extreme end of the baldness scale, so maybe that's a little bit of good news.
I turned 33 in August there and I suppose I sort of view this hair transplant idea as a kind of centrepiece to the improvements I will have made when I have finished with the things I want to do. I made a decision last year to really polish up my appearance, and not do anything half heartedly (joined a good dentist, had my first fraxel laser treatment, going for hair removal treatment soon etc.) So I may differ from some of you guys in that this is not a just a single issue, but part of a bigger idea. I have checked out the Ailesbury Clinic and it looks decent enough from what I've read. I'd definitely rather go somewhere within Ireland/UK, unless I know for sure that going further afield to places like Turkey and Poland is worth it. I must say, I'd rather go somewhere with good customer support, and deal with someone who is honest, and will not just tell me things I want to hear.0 -
St1mpMeister wrote: »I got mine done in Dublin recently availing of the Ailesbury Clinic 25% boards.ie discount (not sure if it's still available but worth a shot asking).
Very impressed with the results and professionalism of all staff involved. Had 3,500 implants (they ended up doing around 3,754!). I'm actually amazed that after only 3 weeks the areas I had done actually look like relatively full hair under normal light compared to the almost complete baldness before (you're not really supposed to see a real difference for a few months). The areas now look like "thinning hair" as opposed to "bald" and will thicken up over time.
The main reason I got it done is that I didn't fancy getting started on any medication that I'd have to take for the rest of my life e.g. Finasteride. So I haven't bothered trying out anything, even Rogaine, as I know I wouldn't have the discipline to keep it going while I'm off backpacking or on a few nights out etc.
Just get it done. It's like going to the dentist (albeit you have a bad haircut for 2 weeks after!)
I've arranged a consultation with Ailesbury. So you would recommend? If you don't mind me asking how much did your operation cost?0 -
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Dr.Winston O'Boogie wrote: »I've arranged a consultation with Ailesbury. So you would recommend? If you don't mind me asking how much did your operation cost?
Yeah I recommend them as:
- They are in Ireland so easy to go for follow-up consultations (they request you come back after 10 months for a free follow-up and they will fill in any gaps (for free, again as part of the original fee) where the new follicles didn't take or where gaps are more apparent when the hair is longer)
- Additionally the fact it's in Ireland makes it a hell of a lot easier to do the aftercare procedure in the comfort of your own home, which lasts for around 4-5 days without having the stress of being shipped back on a plane straight away! Stress is bad after the operation as you want to keep your blood pressure low. Read my notes below...
- They have a written guarantee that 90% of the follicles placement will be successful (or whatever the wording is) and as mentioned before they will replace any gratis that didn't take.
- Their pre/after support is fantastic and have answered my 100 or so questions with no problems.
- They weren't EXTRAORDINARILY expensive as I've heard a certain south Dublin establishment is
- Finally, they did a fantastic job, and the staff were very attentive throughout calming any nerves I might have had going into the operation.
Regarding pricing, they had a sponsored forum up on boards where they detail the sort of pricing in post #16: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103723124
So I got the 25% boards discount off that rate. The discount was only until end of 2017 but maybe they'll keep it going for Jan 2018 (you'd probably need to pay a deposit to secure the price though).
A few things to note though...
- You need to cut the back and sides down to 1mm (not a 1 blade which is actually 3mm) so be prepared to rock the hipster look for a few weeks
- You'll have to spray saline solution on the implant area every 30-60 mins for the first 3-4 days. It's a real hassle, but gotta be done. This is why it's better to take a 2 week holiday off for this.
I'm fortunately working from home at the moment so it worked out fine but I don't think I'd like to have to do this working in an office environment.
You're housebound for a few days after anyway unless you want to wear a goofy hat which protects your implant area.
- You can't exercise for a few days after as you need to keep your blood pressure fairly even to avoid too much blood rushing to the head area possibly having an effect on the roots taking hold (they can give you the proper reasoning at the consultation).
- Get a travel pillow! I toss and turn in bed at night so a travel pillow helped to keep me in the same position through the first few nights. You also can't let anything touch your implant area for the first few nights, and again the pillow raises your crown off the back of the bed.
I've only lost 3-4 follicles out of the 3700+ I had implanted so I probably went OTT with the aftercare, perhaps you don't need to be quite as strict as I was on myself
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St1mpMeister wrote: »Yeah I recommend them as:
- They are in Ireland so easy to go for follow-up consultations (they request you come back after 10 months for a free follow-up and they will fill in any gaps (for free, again as part of the original fee) where the new follicles didn't take or where gaps are more apparent when the hair is longer)
- Additionally the fact it's in Ireland makes it a hell of a lot easier to do the aftercare procedure in the comfort of your own home, which lasts for around 4-5 days without having the stress of being shipped back on a plane straight away! Stress is bad after the operation as you want to keep your blood pressure low. Read my notes below...
- They have a written guarantee that 90% of the follicles placement will be successful (or whatever the wording is) and as mentioned before they will replace any gratis that didn't take.
- Their pre/after support is fantastic and have answered my 100 or so questions with no problems.
- They weren't EXTRAORDINARILY expensive as I've heard a certain south Dublin establishment is
- Finally, they did a fantastic job, and the staff were very attentive throughout calming any nerves I might have had going into the operation.
Regarding pricing, they had a sponsored forum up on boards where they detail the sort of pricing in post #16: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103723124
So I got the 25% boards discount off that rate. The discount was only until end of 2017 but maybe they'll keep it going for Jan 2018 (you'd probably need to pay a deposit to secure the price though).
A few things to note though...
- You need to cut the back and sides down to 1mm (not a 1 blade which is actually 3mm) so be prepared to rock the hipster look for a few weeks
- You'll have to spray saline solution on the implant area every 30-60 mins for the first 3-4 days. It's a real hassle, but gotta be done. This is why it's better to take a 2 week holiday off for this.
I'm fortunately working from home at the moment so it worked out fine but I don't think I'd like to have to do this working in an office environment.
You're housebound for a few days after anyway unless you want to wear a goofy hat which protects your implant area.
- You can't exercise for a few days after as you need to keep your blood pressure fairly even to avoid too much blood rushing to the head area possibly having an effect on the roots taking hold (they can give you the proper reasoning at the consultation).
- Get a travel pillow! I toss and turn in bed at night so a travel pillow helped to keep me in the same position through the first few nights. You also can't let anything touch your implant area for the first few nights, and again the pillow raises your crown off the back of the bed.
I've only lost 3-4 follicles out of the 3700+ I had implanted so I probably went OTT with the aftercare, perhaps you don't need to be quite as strict as I was on myself
Wow amazing advice and much appreciated thanks!0 -
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