Clerical Officer (Dublin) 2019

applejunkie · 26-04-2019 8:37am #1

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.php?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=101163

Just opened this morning , closing date 30/4 .

Riskymove · 26-04-2019 10:16am

only open until Tuesday?? a bit of rush isn't it

Wheety · 26-04-2019 11:40am

Crazy that it's only open for 5 days.

thebond · 26-04-2019 12:01pm

only 200 jobs aswell, no 2nd test, just online, and then interviews

GalwayGirl00 · 26-04-2019 1:21pm

Wow, so no supervised tests??That seems bonkers

Sartre · 26-04-2019 1:59pm

Wasn't this expected to open a while ago? And now it's only for 250 jobs? Maybe there's a recruitment slowdown because of Brexit.

nickidd · 27-04-2019 10:15am

Could it be a competition providing a way for current Dublin TCO’s to be made permanent?

job seeker · 27-04-2019 8:19pm

I can't imagine that people could afford to move to Dublin on the starting wage. Dublin is so expensive to rent accommodation..

lass1 · 28-04-2019 10:59am

I was a TCO and would love to have stayed/ made permanent, I don't see why they can't keep you on if all parties agree.
I applied for the permanent role last year but froze in the supervised test. It's mad when as a TCO you are ok for the job without doing the supervised test bit not for a permanent one...
Where's the logic to it?

Sartre · 28-04-2019 12:17pm

lass1 wrote: »

I was a TCO and would love to have stayed/ made permanent, I don't see why they can't keep you on if all parties agree.
I applied for the permanent role last year but froze in the supervised test. It's mad when as a TCO you are ok for the job without doing the supervised test bit not for a permanent one...
Where's the logic to it?

Perhaps the competency-based approach to this year's TCO interviews means they are changing it so that TCOs can be made permanent. There was a bit in the 2019 TCO booklet that seemed to suggest as much. Something about holding confined selection processes in certain instances. Might also explain why they are taking on less permanent COs now.

I had the TCO interview yesterday and found it quite tough considering it's for a temp role with (traditionally) no opportunity to be made permanent.

Augme · 28-04-2019 2:41pm

lass1 wrote: »

I was a TCO and would love to have stayed/ made permanent, I don't see why they can't keep you on if all parties agree.
I applied for the permanent role last year but froze in the supervised test. It's mad when as a TCO you are ok for the job without doing the supervised test bit not for a permanent one...
Where's the logic to it?

It would get too complicated. There isn't spsce for every temp CO to become permenant. The nature of the temp roles is to cover for certain shortfalls in work. Summer times, sickness, maternity leave etc.

While some temps could be accomdated for full time work the problem then becomes which temp would get it? That just becomes a can of worms for the local department to sort out.

There are two streams for a reason, one is to cover for one area of business needs, and the other another one.

For the 2019 competition there are no supervised tests and no verbal or numerical test either so it will be a lot easier for people who struggle in that area.

lass1 · 28-04-2019 2:48pm

Augme wrote: »

It would get too complicated. There isn't spsce for every temp CO to become permenant. The nature of the temp roles is to cover for certain shortfalls in work. Summer times, sickness, maternity leave etc.

While some temps could be accomdated for full time work the problem then becomes which temp would get it? That just becomes a can of worms for the local department to sort out.

There are two streams for a reason, one is to cover for one area of business needs, and the other another one.

For the 2019 competition there are no supervised tests and no verbal or numerical test either so it will be a lot easier for people who struggle in that area.

Fingers crossed for us all good luck ty

jodibobs · 28-04-2019 6:28pm

Hi, doing application,sorry to sound dumb,but do you fill in the attachments on line? Declaration form won't let me tick the boxes. Thanks to anyone who replies

Samjd · 28-04-2019 7:40pm

jodibobs wrote: »

Hi, doing application,sorry to sound dumb,but do you fill in the attachments on line? Declaration form won't let me tick the boxes. Thanks to anyone who replies

Hi, you download the application form and the statement of suitability, maybe save them to your desktop, fill them in and save them, go back to the job ad and click apply now and fill in the basic application form and when you proceed with that it will ask you to upload the two forms you’ve filled in. I hope that makes sense. I’d say just put a tick or an X beside the boxes you can’t tick. Good Luck

Gavin "shels" · 28-04-2019 8:32pm

Samjd wrote: »

Hi, you download the application form and the statement of suitability, maybe save them to your desktop, fill them in and save them, go back to the job ad and click apply now and fill in the basic application form and when you proceed with that it will ask you to upload the two forms you’ve filled in. I hope that makes sense. I’d say just put a tick or an X beside the boxes you can’t tick. Good Luck

Were you able to get this done? My fiancee is applying, when we try scan in the document pages you need to sign it's going over the 5MB limit...

Samjd · 28-04-2019 9:04pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Were you able to get this done? My fiancee is applying, when we try scan in the document pages you need to sign it's going over the 5MB limit...

I wouldn’t scan it, just save it as a document and type in your name, date etc, I know it says signature but if they require a signature they can get you to sign it at a later stage.

job seeker · 28-04-2019 9:05pm

Just applying for this now. it gives an option to upload an application form. But they haven't supplied any application form to fill up!?

EDIT I got sorted!

Gavin "shels" · 29-04-2019 10:39am

Samjd wrote: »

I wouldn’t scan it, just save it as a document and type in your name, date etc, I know it says signature but if they require a signature they can get you to sign it at a later stage.

Ended up using my IT skills and just copied in the scan of the signatures and ticks :pac:

Cocopup · 01-05-2019 4:45pm

When is the next stage

n!ghtmancometh · 01-05-2019 6:56pm

Sister has applied for this. I'm an EO now but when I did the CO entrance in 2016 there was online tests, repeat of online test in public jobs office to prove you did the online yourselves, and then interview. Have they removed the supervised portion for this competition? bit mad if they have.

Cocopup · 01-05-2019 7:39pm

I’m same as u , EO now but . Had to do the CO supervised in 2016 . Must be doing this process as supply of COs must be short

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Sister has applied for this. I'm an EO now but when I did the CO entrance in 2016 there was online tests, repeat of online test in public jobs office to prove you did the online yourselves, and then interview. Have they removed the supervised portion for this competition? bit mad if they have.[/quote

natc · 01-05-2019 8:03pm

Cocopup wrote: »

I’m same as u , EO now but . Had to do the CO supervised in 2016 . Must be doing this process as supply of COs must be short.

I reckon it’s due to mobilization finally taking off and there has been a mass exodus of COs transferring closer to home.

natc · 02-05-2019 2:48pm

When does the online questionnaire assessment start? Uploaded the forms for the job in a hurry Monday evening for my husband (was only informed of it mon afternoon) and I can’t see it listed under his current applications on public jobs.

Looks like it didn’t go through for some reason. Feck it anyway!!

Blubelle18 · 02-05-2019 4:44pm

Interviews to be held May 18th..this comp is moving very quickly!

lass1 · 02-05-2019 4:59pm

Just got an email to log on for the online test, very quick campaign,,
Good luck to all.

natc · 02-05-2019 5:06pm

lass1 wrote: »

Just got an email to log on for the online test, very quick campaign,,
Good luck to all.

No sign of an email coming through here so must have messed up the upload somehow!

Ah well, best of luck everyone!

Dublintigger · 02-05-2019 8:15pm

This is a very quick turn around...... scarely so
Good luck every one!

Damienthorn · 02-05-2019 11:17pm

Just completed test fairly straight forward. Should hear back by 13/05 . If successful interviews on 18/05 . No supervised assesments..!!!

Cocopup · 03-05-2019 12:37pm

Is this competition for temporary or permanent roles

quote="Damienthorn;110085307"]Just completed test fairly straight forward. Should hear back by 13/05 . If successful interviews on 18/05 . No supervised assesments..!!![/quote]

lass1 · 03-05-2019 1:19pm

Cocopup wrote: »

Is this competition for temporary or permanent roles

Permanent roles

quote="Damienthorn;110085307"]Just completed test fairly straight forward. Should hear back by 13/05 . If successful interviews on 18/05 . No supervised assesments..!!!

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wicklow girl · 03-05-2019 2:45pm

what's involved in tests, is it just an assessment?

GalwayGirl00 · 03-05-2019 3:01pm

wicklow girl wrote: »

what's involved in tests, is it just an assessment?

Stage 1 - Online Assessment Questionnaire Live-2nd May 2019
Stage 1 - Online Assessment Questionnaire Close-7th May 2019 at 12 noon
Stage 2- Interview-18th May 2019

Dublintigger · 03-05-2019 7:35pm

Damienthorn wrote: »

Just completed test fairly straight forward. Should hear back by 13/05 . If successful interviews on 18/05 . No supervised assesments..!!!

Excellent - how long did it take you?

Damienthorn · 03-05-2019 10:44pm

Dublintigger wrote: »

Excellent - how long did it take you?

20 to 30 mins if you familiar with the format. But give yourself an hour in a quite room if not.

Dublintigger · 03-05-2019 10:52pm

Damienthorn wrote: »

20 to 30 mins if you familiar with the format. But give yourself an hour in a quite room if not.

Thank you.
I take it that its a mixture of numerical and reasoning.questions?
It seems all very speedy!
I wonder if it all has to the new office for the financial ombudsman?

Carlylara13 · 05-05-2019 9:31am

Have never done tests before, anywhere can get any tips or samples on what the tests will be like///

solidasarock · 06-05-2019 6:30pm

Carlylara13 wrote: »

Have never done tests before, anywhere can get any tips or samples on what the tests will be like///

There is a short formulation test that gives you a idea. its just a bunch of vague questions about workplace situations.

"Barry did X which might have been a breach of policy", do you
A- talk to Barry about it,
B- talk to Barrys manager about it without telling Barry
C- tell Barry to talk to his manager

Or similar questions but with customer situations.

Honestly. I have dont a bunch of them in the past and been successful and unsuccessful and have no idea what the logic is. Even people I know in the civil service dont understand them as its more physiological and practical. Just pick whatever feels right.

MrSphincter · 06-05-2019 7:55pm

solidasarock wrote: »

There is a short formulation test that gives you a idea. its just a bunch of vague questions about workplace situations.

"Barry did X which might have been a breach of policy", do you
A- talk to Barry about it,
B- talk to Barrys manager about it without telling Barry
C- tell Barry to talk to his manager

Or similar questions but with customer situations.

Honestly. I have dont a bunch of them in the past and been successful and unsuccessful and have no idea what the logic is. Even people I know in the civil service dont understand them as its more physiological and practical. Just pick whatever feels right.

The secret to success according to my HEO is that you don't say you're better than most because it means your far too confident and obviously lying according to the people that created the test.

Cocopup · 08-05-2019 3:59pm

Any suggestions when results out? Friday ?

Dublintigger · 08-05-2019 4:53pm

Cocopup wrote: »

Any suggestions when results out? Friday ?

I read that we'll hear on Monday, 13.5.19

Eod100 · 08-05-2019 9:16pm

I was trying to find information but couldn't find that date but guess it would have to be a few days notice. Munster playing Leinster same afternoon so trains could be busy for anyone travelling up for it. Think Irish Rail doing maintenance work same day too, so might be timetable changes too.

Linking123! · 09-05-2019 10:56pm

MrSphincter wrote: »

solidasarock wrote: »

There is a short formulation test that gives you a idea. its just a bunch of vague questions about workplace situations.

"Barry did X which might have been a breach of policy", do you
A- talk to Barry about it,
B- talk to Barrys manager about it without telling Barry
C- tell Barry to talk to his manager

Or similar questions but with customer situations.

Honestly. I have dont a bunch of them in the past and been successful and unsuccessful and have no idea what the logic is. Even people I know in the civil service dont understand them as its more physiological and practical. Just pick whatever feels right.

The secret to success according to my HEO is that you don't say you're better than most because it means your far too confident and obviously lying according to the people that created the test.

I'm worried now I put in a few of them, if you worked ten years in one place and can do your job eyes closed, that makes you better than someone only being there 3 years. Doesn't mean you are better aa a person just more experienced?

lass1 · 10-05-2019 5:02pm

God damn it, just got a message saying my files didnt load properly, my application won't go any further, I feel like an idiot ðŸ˜£

Sinus pain · 10-05-2019 5:10pm

Your application form or your test files? If it’s your test files appeal it

lass1 · 10-05-2019 5:23pm

Unfortunately my application forms

Dublintigger · 10-05-2019 8:26pm

lass1 wrote: »

Unfortunately my application forms

Ah here - thats crap...... hopefully the next CO comp.

jock 1 · 11-05-2019 3:21pm

Does anyone know if many have applied for this? I was told they did this s while back also and basically told candidates to wait around after interviews and then told them there and then if that were successful. Anyone else hear anything like this ?

Cocopup · 11-05-2019 3:22pm

Are the results out Monday and then interviews in saturday. ?

jock 1 · 11-05-2019 3:28pm

Dublintigger wrote: »

I read that we'll hear on Monday, 13.5.19

Was that on the information given at the start , I don’t remember seeing it or did you read that somewhere else? Although I’ve so many applications in for different things at the moment I can’t keep track ðŸ˜¬, anyway fingers crossed everyone

jock 1 · 13-05-2019 9:44am

Anyone hear anything back yet ?

Eod100 · 13-05-2019 10:05am

No nothing yet. If it's today it probably won't be until afternoon at earliest though. I had it in my head it was Wednesday. Was anyone on to PAS to check?

Clerical Officer (Dublin) 2019

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