Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

Im sure it will be asked in press tour but why wasn't the fight in the Allegiant Stadium?

20k isnt a big statement that fans are back, considering 12k will be in florida next week

it would have sold 70k in minutes.

The same night Garth Brooks is playing to 70k in the Allegiant, so why not have the fight a week after.

unless the agreement was in place with T-Mobile before it was announced fans can come in, but Dana would be on the ball with this thing.

anyway, 70k cowgirls and 20k UFC/Irish fans across the road from each other on the same night.

2022 will have some amount of red headed cowboy babies!

rob316 wrote: »

The gate is much higher on a Vegas arena show than a stadium one, that's why.

Exactly.

20k Vegas tickets will bring in much more money than 70k stadium seats.

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

Got my ticket today. A grand so hopefully the fight goes ahead!

Nice!

Blow out in Vegas and a McGregor card. Great way to see off the Covid situation!

MrStuffins wrote: »

Exactly.

20k Vegas tickets will bring in much more money than 70k stadium seats.

not by much I would think? on a Conor card?

Khabib was the highest gate at 17m (17k seats) mcg v Poirier 2 wont beat it I dont think.

70,000 at an average ticket of $200 gets you 14m, the gate means nothing when there are 1m+ buys at home

They aren't that far off it, this could be a spectacle first ever in a brand new stadium. UFC could cement themselves as the top dog in contact sport

Looks like now Joshua v Fury will get there first

Again, there is obviously a valid reason, Dana isnt stupid, but from the outside in, For me Dana missed the mark.

FileNotFound wrote: »

I wonder if the vegas venue also covers all costs v a stadium wanting the UFC to cover costs + extra for rental?

Not sure, there is obviously a reason he didnt go for it, im sure the question will be asked of him.

For me a Conor fight or Jones V Francis are the only 2 that could fill it out at prices to cover costs and make a high profit.

In boxing Canelo (mexicans turn up for everything Saul), or Fury V Joshua

The UFC are also an anchor tenant of the T-Mobile and are contracted to put on 4 fights a year there

My opinion too is you cheapen the product by putting it on in a stadium.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Ah, was unaware the stadium was in Vegas. Forgot they had that new one.

That’s fair enough. If it was Miami stadium or wherever I’d agree.
I’d say it was down to a contractual thing, or a Covid thing. They definitely want to do it at some point.

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Considering this Government's love affair with lockdowns [we haven't even unlocked from this one yet and they already seem eager to lock us down again come Winter] I wouldn't blame him if he did. Its the smartest thing he [or any other fighter in this country] can do.

Elite sportspeople can still train. SBGs have been open the whole time and never closed. I know people who have been training at various SBGs as never skipped a beat.

So the lockdown situation won't really make a difference

The Floyd p wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs when the main storyline driving this trilogy can't be discussed on the thread bearing the co-headliner's name, but UFC Gate estimates are considered more relevant? Seems a little silly.

MMA only discussion about McGregor is impossible, it was easy when he trained and seemed innovative, but that’s over.

Fight talk only + Good Fight Foundation = chat the sh1t.

That aside, very quick turnaround given the outcome of the last one. Also, who is McGregor sparring with these days? Dustin trains in a shark tank and seems very much to have Mike Brown overseeing everything.

McGregor has the cut of an old rockstar making yet another sh1te album and nobody around him willing to tell him the same.

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Fight talk only + Good Fight Foundation = chat the sh1t.

That aside, very quick turnaround given the outcome of the last one. Also, who is McGregor sparring with these days? Dustin trains in a shark tank and seems very much to have Mike Brown overseeing everything.

McGregor has the cut of an old rockstar making yet another sh1te album and nobody around him willing to tell him the same.

it's proved by the godfather of mma (although he doesn't like to be called it) the great Coach Kavanagh's latest Twitter post on the askren fight
"Win or Earn" that's the true motto

John is a hungry hole that won't say boo as long as the money and free merch comes in

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

Hard to believe Mcg is still at SBG, they are a complete failure of a gym.
John isn't the only one that's a useful as a chocolate teapot, that cyclist doctor fella who is behind the FAST program is another one. Owen Roddy doing mits for Conor while he was preparing to fight Mayweather was another funny one.

We laugh because we are Irish but MMA gyms around the world are the same its such a new sport,look at Jackson- Wink ,


Jackson isn't an expert in any one thing he made up his own Martial art Gaidojutsu imagine if an Irish lad done that you'd think he was nuts , I don't think he ever even fought ,


Winkeljohn is a former Muay Thai World champion and was a very good kickboxer but no MMA experience


Even Trevor Wittman is failed boxer ,

Wasn't John the first blackbelt in this country ? is there anyone else in Ireland who would be abetter head coach than him ?


Not sure what you expect the coaches be like in such a young sport,

yourdeadwright wrote: »

We laugh because we are Irish but MMA gyms around the world are the same its such a new sport,look at Jackson- Wink ,


Jackson isn't an expert in any one thing he made up his own Martial art Gaidojutsu imagine if an Irish lad done that you'd think he was nuts , I don't think he ever even fought ,


Winkeljohn is a former Muay Thai World champion and was a very good kickboxer but no MMA experience


Even Trevor Wittman is failed boxer ,

Wasn't John the first blackbelt in this country ? is there anyone else in Ireland who would be abetter head coach than him ?


Not sure what you expect the coaches be like in such a young sport,

All good if you're fighting at a local level.

But if you're fighting at a world level, you need world level coaching. Which he isn't getting

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Kavanagh is focusing all his attention on Conor for his next fight. No time for the wannabe Conor

James to be fair to him is doing something Conor should have done years ago, went to a gym in America. He's been over with Glory MMA for the last few months.

Mellor wrote: »

Plus many of the top fighters are top gyms were developed at local gyms and moved.

This is the key. There is so much to indicate that Conor would benefit massively by improving his training. Also, by removing himself from the Yes-Men surrounding him.

I mean, look no further than Poirier. He used to be with Tim Creduer at his gym. His loss to Korean Zombie prompted him to go to ATT. Many great fighters before him have done this. Look what he's done since. Would he have been as successful anyway? Probably not. Successful, sure. But AS successful?


Conor won't do this though. He has talked so much sh*t in the past about loyalty and about fighters switching gyms..... I'm not sure his ego would allow it

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

It will when it's too late, he'll move to some big gym and he'll be 1/2 the fighter he was.

I genuinely don't believe he's 100% fit, I know his knee has never been right after the ACL tore. Knee injuries are dreadful, they never fully repair to the before injury level. You seen in the film he did the panic when he heard a pop in it, and this was when he was training for Mendez. You can never fully trust it, it's maybe why he moved to a more boxing type game.

Excuses,

He tore his ACL during Holloway , all his best wins came after that ?


If he is not 100% fit that is his own fault and part of being a great fighter , Fitness is the exact same as any other part of the game something you have to work on to have and if you don't have it its your own fault ,

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

It will when it's too late, he'll move to some big gym and he'll be 1/2 the fighter he was.

I genuinely don't believe he's 100% fit, I know his knee has never been right after the ACL tore. Knee injuries are dreadful, they never fully repair to the before injury level. You seen in the film he did the panic when he heard a pop in it, and this was when he was training for Mendez. You can never fully trust it, it's maybe why he moved to a more boxing type game.

Very much doubt that any top level fighter is 100% fit tbh. They all accumulated some damage and are carrying some sort of injury.

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

Yeah true, especially in MMA as the damage is exponential compared to most other sports. Most fighters might not be 100% but carrying a debilitating injury like Mcg is changes everything. Knee injuries stop careers, same with hip injuries.

You've literally guessed that his knew is bad and are running with it.,


He had the best guys in the world work on it ,Where have you got that it still effects him from ?


His training clips he posts have show nothing to suggest its seriously debilitating not even in the slightest ?

ElBastardo1 wrote: »

I got a bit of inside information, he's been in a certain Sports clinic a good few times over the past few years seeing a surgeon and one time apparently went to the US to see a Orthopedic surgeon on his knee issues. It's meant to be the reason he trains on the bike more and swims as he can't do the miles jogging.
Might be a false rumor, but I've heard it from 2 sources.

He had surgery in the US after the Holloway fight. Same surgeon as GSP iirc. That's not really a secret.

Knees are a pain, and very slow to heel, sometimes they never do fully. But I very much doubt it's debilitated him. As mentioned above; His best performances, almost his entire UFC career came post ACL pop.

Ush1 wrote: »

Likely a lot more decorated and respected as a fighter, but not as wealthy.

Would you be more decorated being a world champion at one division with loads of title defences or a world champion at two weight division's ?