Normal People, is it realistic?

lainey_d_123 · 12-05-2020 2:42pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think the first year i worked at 15 i earned something like 900 that entire year after tax and having to hand up money at home ...buses etc.

Either you're ancient or you were exploited, but this is not remotely typical.

I worked in a factory on Saturdays and Sundays and made about 200 euro a week - 800 a month. I saved literally thousands of euro per year and had enough when I went to college to support myself there, including paying rent. And you think it's far fetched that a fella bought a car and insured it?

cj maxx · 12-05-2020 2:43pm

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

He’s some guy though, working after school and weekends, has an active social life, drives his mother around, plays lots of sports, has a secret girlfriend and still gets enough points to do literature at Trinity.

He did sound like some man till you mentioned literature

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 2:45pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s cliched pretentious rubbish that depends on sensationalistic sex scenes for publicity.

Its just so ...Romeo and Juliet ..so over dramatic!

mariaalice · 12-05-2020 2:48pm

The posts here are showing up something interesting the big divide is between the academic highflyers and the rest.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 2:52pm

mariaalice wrote: »

The posts here are showing up something interesting the big divide is between the academic highflyers and the rest.

You can choose to be an academic highflyer. I went from where i was to doing a degree. But its not as easy for some.

We don't all start off the same.

TBH the whole programme is getting to feel sorry for an upper middle class girl over a working class guy...because she is awkward. So i guess that is the target audience.

Ten of Swords · 12-05-2020 2:53pm

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ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 2:55pm

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Either you're ancient or you were exploited, but this is not remotely typical.

I worked in a factory on Saturdays and Sundays and made about 200 euro a week - 800 a month. I saved literally thousands of euro per year and had enough when I went to college to support myself there, including paying rent. And you think it's far fetched that a fella bought a car and insured it?

Average hrly wage for an apprentice hairdresser today is 7 euro per hr.

https://www.payscale.com/research/IE/Job=Apprentice_Hairdresser/Hourly_Rate

No I am not ancient.

If you are 16 today ....working full time 5 dys a week in the hairdressing industry your average hrly wage is 7 euro.

Tork · 12-05-2020 3:04pm

Connell wasn't working as a hairdresser. Anyway, can we move on. We get your point. You don't think it's realistic that a teenager can afford to run a car. Some of us think it is. The end.

facehugger99 · 12-05-2020 3:05pm

I was driving a car in secondary school.

My Dad's car.

posturingpat · 12-05-2020 3:08pm

This place is hilarious 😂

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-05-2020 3:09pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Normal/Boring people. My god it was a yawn fest.

Sounds like the title should have been a clue.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:14pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Sounds like the title should have been a clue.

True.

Also is it just me or does Paul Mescal look much older than 24??

His bio says 24.

The English actress does a great Irish accent though.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:15pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s cliched pretentious rubbish that depends on sensationalistic sex scenes for publicity.

I definitely wouldnt classify those sex scenes as "sensationalistic" have you watched the whole thing?
Fairly normal imo.
Euphoria on HBO/Sky Atlantic...now those were "sensationalistic".

I read the book when it came out (it wouldn't be my normal genre) and enjoyed it. The tv show is excellent imo (bar episode 9 which I thought was poor) but obviously not for everyone, I found it hugely effecting and realistic the main two are hugely compelling and talented.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:20pm

gmisk wrote: »

I definitely wouldnt classify those sex scenes as "sensationalistic".
Fairly normal imo.
Euphoria on HBO/Sky Atlantic...now those were "sensationalistic".

I read the book when it came out and enjoyed it. The tv show is excellent imo but obviously not for everyone, I found it hugely effecting and realistic the main two are hugely compelling and talented.

I think the actress is.

The guy ...it was a bit awkward.

Some of the lines are a bit cringey...

COnnal ... 'Her new boyfriend is more in line with her social class' etc...i giggled.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:23pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think the actress is.

The guy ...it was a bit awkward.

Some of the lines are a bit cringey...

'Her new boyfriend is more in line with her social class' etc...i giggled.

I think that is the character though...he is socially extremely awkward and clearly over analyses and over thinks everything. People that age say cringey things as well lol, Have you watched the whole thing?
Paul Mescal in episode 10 especially is absolutely outstanding.

I am not sure if that particular line is from the book or not tbh.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:26pm

gmisk wrote: »

I think that is the character though...he is socially extremely awkward and clearly over analyses and over thinks everything. People that age say cringey things as well lol, Have you watched the whole thing?

I am not sure if that particular line is from the book or not tbh.

I haven't read the book.

But they ALL say cringey things.

Also if he is so popular etc ...how is it he is so awkward? He's not a well constructed character.

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:32pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I haven't read the book.

But they ALL say cringey things.

Also if he is so popular etc ...how is it he is so awkward? He's not a well constructed character.

I would say watch the whole thing or read the book. There honestly are reasons behind the way he behaves etc, I don't want to post spoilers.

Some of the dialogue at the Trinity parts are very cringey alright...but having gone their I don't think they are far from the truth...

People can be popular (he is the all conquering, handsome, intelligent jock you could say) and still be awkward or shy or put up a front of being laid back etc when they are anything but.

I personally think he is really well constructed but hey like I said the show/book isn't for everyone.

hynesie08 · 12-05-2020 3:33pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I haven't read the book.

But they ALL say cringey things.

Also if he is so popular etc ...how is it he is so awkward? He's not a well constructed character.

He's popular because he plays GAA, again it's the lazy storytelling trope that's existed since media. He'd be a nobody if he couldn't kick a ball.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:34pm

gmisk wrote: »

I would say watch the whole thing or read the book. There honestly are reasons behind the way he behaves etc, I don't want to post spoilers.

Some of the dialogue at the Trinity parts are very cringey alright...but having gone their I don't think they are far from the truth...

People can be popular (he is the all conquering, handsome, intelligent jock you could say) and still be awkward or shy or put up a front of being laid back etc when they are anything but.

I personally think he is really well constructed but hey like I said the show/book isn't for everyone.

I felt there were several flaws.

The girl who wrote it is the editor of the stinging fly. I could be prejudiced against her ..as i didnt like it of late ..its gotten very conventional.

Maybe I will try to read the book. I am not sure it would be for me though.

NSAman · 12-05-2020 3:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not a N plate either, so he must be a bit slow? At least 19 and in school!

For someone so intelligent, that was my thought too.... he must have been held back.;)

dd973 · 12-05-2020 3:36pm

Does Longford even exist? They must be the Belgians of Ireland, can you think of any famous Longfordians without consulting Wikipedia?

(Wrong thread. :oP )

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:37pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I felt there were several flaws.

The girl who wrote it is the editor of the stinging fly. I could be prejudiced against her ..as i didnt like it of late ..its gotten very conventional.

Maybe I will try to read the book. I am not sure it would be for me though.

It is not some flawless masterpiece of literature in my opinion. But I found it hugely involving and relatable and pretty much devoured the book in a very short time frame. It might just not be your thing, sure there is nothing wrong with that.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:38pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

He's popular because he plays GAA, again it's the lazy storytelling trope that's existed since media. He'd be a nobody if he couldn't kick a ball.

I'd have to read the book. But from the T.V programme he lacks the charm and ...certain emotional intelligence of the 'popular guy' at school ..

They were never the cruel ones. It was always their mates.

The popular guys were the ones who could talk and relate to anyone. They might be the most dare devil ish and the most sporty. But that alone wouldn't make you popular. He had to at least be witty ...and be savvy.

If he was awkward ..he would be bullied.

Im not sure he would have fancied her in real life either. Also he would have had so much more choice ....not sure he would have fallen so hard.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:41pm

gmisk wrote: »

It is not some flawless masterpiece of literature in my opinion. But I found it hugely involving and relatable and pretty much devoured the book in a very short time frame. It might just not be your thing, sure there is nothing wrong with that.

Sure its great there is an Irish writer getting anything on TV at all TBH.

I am probably being really harsh on it.

Its probably great ..she is editor of the stinging fly. What do i know?

Im just jealous because i couldn't write something that good! :P

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:44pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Sure its great there is an Irish writer getting anything on TV at all TBH.

I am probably being really harsh on it.

Its probably great ..she is editor of the stinging fly. What do i know?

That's true and plenty of Irish talent involved in it behind the scenes and on screen as well.

You know more than me, I have never even heard of the stinging fly....it sounds like a nickname for an STD.

NSAman · 12-05-2020 3:47pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think the actress is.

The guy ...it was a bit awkward.

Some of the lines are a bit cringey...

COnnal ... 'Her new boyfriend is more in line with her social class' etc...i giggled.

Oh come on,,,, that is most of the conversations had at that age....

were you never in the canteen in University with your mates, while the ‘intellectuals” were trying to out-do each other all the time your mates and yourself were eye-rolling at the utter stupidity of the pretension?

I know us as a gang of lads lived beside the 4 nuns (the nickname)... very prim and proper and we of course were not. While I do not want to go into details (to protect the guilty) there was little of the pranks and actual ‘stupidity’ that people get up to in university.. it seems much less fun than when I went (mind you they seemed to have a LOT more sex than we did)

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:48pm

gmisk wrote: »

That's true and plenty of Irish talent involved in it behind the scenes and on screen as well.

You know more than me, I have never even heard of the stinging fly....it sounds like a nickname for an STD.

Oh sorry its an Irish literary magazine ..i think i submitted a story to it ..a while ago ..it didn't get printed of course. Or maybe i didn't submit it and i am remembering that wrong. :pac:

Tork · 12-05-2020 3:48pm

NSAman wrote: »

For someone so intelligent, that was my thought too.... he must have been held back.;)

Not necessarily. If he started school at 5 and did transition year, he'd easily be 19 doing the Leaving Cert.

NSAman · 12-05-2020 3:52pm

Tork wrote: »

Not necessarily. If he started school at 5 and did transition year, he'd easily be 19 doing the Leaving Cert.

Relax lad, It was purely a brief comment...the first thought on watching episode 1;)

gmisk · 12-05-2020 3:53pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Oh sorry its an Irish literary magazine ..i think i submitted a story to it ..a while ago ..it didn't get printed of course. Or maybe i didn't submit it and i am remembering that wrong. :pac:

Hmm interesting... you might relate to the Connell character more as it goes along...

Tork · 12-05-2020 3:55pm

Ah, see I've already been on the thread in the Television forum and there are people going on about the actors' ages. One person thought it was borderline paedophilia because they thought the actress's body looked like that of a developing girl. Another thought the actor looked about 30 and more like the age where he could be dating his mother...

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 3:59pm

NSAman wrote: »

Oh come on,,,, that is most of the conversations had at that age....

were you never in the canteen in University with your mates, while the ‘intellectuals” were trying to out-do each other all the time your mates and yourself were eye-rolling at the utter stupidity of the pretension?

No.

I know us as a gang of lads lived beside the 4 nuns (the nickname)... very prim and proper and we of course were not. While I do not want to go into details (to protect the guilty) there was little of the pranks and actual ‘stupidity’ that people get up to in university.. it seems much less fun than when I went (mind you they seemed to have a LOT more sex than we did)

How do i put this??? Chats about BDSM experimentation were routine. Actual BDSM experimentation was routine. I joined a pagan society and was nude (skyclad ) regularly out in the west meath mountains along with others.

I slept with an actual priest. He was french.Well studying to be a priest.

I only tried drugs twice though. A fellow pagan mate who was much more acclimatized to them rolled me a joint. It blew my head off. It also made my pee smell. So i decided to try it a few more times.

That's just the beginning.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:00pm

Tork wrote: »

Another thought the actor looked about 30 and more like the age where he could be dating his mother...

I thought that too!

I feel bad now ..he's only 24.

The girl is in her twenties.

rdwight · 12-05-2020 4:01pm

dd973 wrote: »

Does Longford even exist? They must be the Belgians of Ireland, can you think of any famous Longfordians without consulting Wikipedia?

(Wrong thread. :oP )

Please link to thread. Sounds more interesting than this one

NSAman · 12-05-2020 4:01pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No.

How do i put this??? Chats about BDSM experimentation were routine. Actual BDSM experimentation was routine. I joined a pagan society and was nude (skyclad ) regularly out in the west meath mountains along with others.

I slept with an actual priest. He was french.Well studying to be a priest.

I only tried drugs twice though. A fellow pagan mate who was much more acclimatized to them rolled me a joint. It blew my head off. It also made my pee smell. So i decided to try it a few more times.

That's just the beginning.

So you went to Maynooth,,,;)

rdwight · 12-05-2020 4:01pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I felt there were several flaws.

The girl who wrote it is the editor of the stinging fly. I could be prejudiced against her ..as i didnt like it of late ..its gotten very conventional.

Maybe I will try to read the book. I am not sure it would be for me though.

No longer (since 2018) the editor.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:02pm

gmisk wrote: »

Hmm interesting... you might relate to the Connell character more as it goes along...

I would say so....but then no

I am awkward. But wasn't popular in secondary. I was like Daisy ....unpopular in secondary popular in Uni. Although we didn't have a cleaner!

And i didn't go for awkward guys. I went for suave and usually foreign!

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:04pm

rdwight wrote: »

No longer (since 2018) the editor.

Oh ...pardon my mistake. I am sure she was very good.

I wonder who it is now. Or i wondered so i checked

Its Danny Denton.

rdwight · 12-05-2020 4:08pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I wonder what the target audience thought. I mean real 17 yr olds.

You might get in trouble with some of the literati if you suggest Rooney belongs in the Young Adult section. Or are you sliding the stiletto in?

Sardonicat · 12-05-2020 4:09pm

NSAman wrote: »

So you went to Maynooth,,,;)

LOL. Connell would have been sooo much happier there.

Thelonious Monk · 12-05-2020 4:11pm

Could a girl that beautiful really be unpopular in school?

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:11pm

rdwight wrote: »

You might get in trouble some of the literati if you suggest Rooney belongs in the Young Adult section. Or are you sliding the stiletto in?

ooops no. She is literary of course!

That's the section i want to get into ....only i write in swearing too much prolly! I am a huge fan of pulp fiction!

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:12pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Could a girl that beautiful really be unpopular in school?

Not in a mixed school no. She would definitely be having more fun in a mixed school. And none of the lads would be slagging her.

In an all girls school ..yes. She could be.

MoonUnit75 · 12-05-2020 4:12pm

dd973 wrote: »

Does Longford even exist? They must be the Belgians of Ireland, can you think of any famous Longfordians without consulting Wikipedia?

(Wrong thread. :oP )

Albert Reynolds was from Longford I think, but then he isn't very realistic.

circadian · 12-05-2020 4:19pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Not in a mixed school no. She would definitely be having more fun in a mixed school. And none of the lads would be slagging her.

In an all girls school ..yes. She could be.

Not necessarily true. One of my exes from A-level years was stunningly attractive but had a hard time at a mixed school because some of the girls didn't like her.

gourcuff · 12-05-2020 4:19pm

conall being popular is entirely believable, in secondary school the best footballers were almost automatically popular, hes not a legend hes just one of the lads from what i can see, even in university the best sigerson players had some social status.

Teenagers being awkward is hardly that rare...

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:20pm

circadian wrote: »

Not necessarily true. One of my exes from A-level years was stunningly attractive but had a hard time at a mixed school because some of the girls didn't like her.

This can happen. But usually her new BF would sort them out for her!

That can happen though.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:23pm

If he was really popular he would have a stalker girl ..or an ex stalker GF. Every popular guy at my school had one of those.

olestoepoke · 12-05-2020 4:23pm

The ignorance in this thread is astonishing. Ya'll need to go read the book or go find something else to moan about.

ILoveYourVibes · 12-05-2020 4:24pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

The ignorance in this thread is astonishing. Ya'll need to go read the book or go find something else to moan about.

I sorry! I didn't start the thread!

Normal People, is it realistic?

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