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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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  • #2902
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Grueller wrote: »
    How much space does the elephant trunk leave between bales?

    Depends on the use case. Stacking on a trailer you need to leave space for the roller to get down to pick up again. In a yard, just enough to take out the roller and you can push in the bale then. Or if you're more skilled put the bottom nearest the loader down first and release the trunk. Other end should fall in close to the bales behind. That one takes practice :D


  • #2903
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    roosterman71 wrote: »
    Depends on the use case. Stacking on a trailer you need to leave space for the roller to get down to pick up again. In a yard, just enough to take out the roller and you can push in the bale then. Or if you're more skilled put the bottom nearest the loader down first and release the trunk. Other end should fall in close to the bales behind. That one takes practice :D

    stacking on the trailer is one of the main problems with soft hands bales need to be spaced a few inches to avoid pinching the plastic


  • #2904
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,255 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Gillespy wrote: »
    Two variations, you have the elephant trunk and the swan neck. Its where the ram is positioned and how they open. Both are excellent. The option of using the other one for the winter is fine but it's extra wear and they get sloppy fast.




    Which one is better though? Between those two - elephant trunk or swan neck? For different circumstances/uses


  • #2905
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Which one is better though? Between those two - elephant trunk or swan neck? For different circumstances/uses

    I went with the elephant trunk. Easier turn them up on their end if you want to stack that way


  • #2906
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,255 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    roosterman71 wrote: »
    I went with the elephant trunk. Easier turn them up on their end if you want to stack that way


    Any difference in price?



    If you don't want to put them on their ends, then how would they compare otherwise?


  • #2907
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    We got ours made by a local engineer/fabricator lad
    Michael Holohan Engineering Steel Fabricator
    The father actually had the swan one bought but I got that changed when I heard as a lot of lads we move bales for stack on the end and I felt it would be much harder to move the end out of the way when turning up the bale. We got him to make the elephant trunk one instead. It was the first one yer man built. Few pics here
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114144913&postcount=1322

    I know the elephant one is more expensive but I couldn't tell ya how much. The father drove a hard bargain and gave nothing extra only the promise to promote his work. So far he's got him 5/6 orders


  • #2908
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,255 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    roosterman71 wrote: »
    We got ours made by a local engineer/fabricator lad
    Michael Holohan Engineering Steel Fabricator
    The father actually had the swan one bought but I got that changed when I heard as a lot of lads we move bales for stack on the end and I felt it would be much harder to move the end out of the way when turning up the bale. We got him to make the elephant trunk one instead. It was the first one yer man built. Few pics here
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114144913&postcount=1322

    I know the elephant one is more expensive but I couldn't tell ya how much. The father drove a hard bargain and gave nothing extra only the promise to promote his work. So far he's got him 5/6 orders




    There are one on DD with a price of 1400 but don't look as heavy or well made as your one


    https://www.donedeal.ie/silagegrabs-for-sale/new-elephant-trunks-squeezers/27872225?campaign=14


    The JM ones look fairly well made. No idea of the price though


    Edit: Your one on DD for 1250 https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/elephant-trunk-c-w-euro-hitch/26016652?campaign=14


  • #2909
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    That's actually my one in the picture. It was left in that shop as a bit of advertisement for yer man making them.

    Neighbour has the Shirley one. Got it last year too. Dunno what he thinks of it. He'll be over giving a hand moving bales shortly and I'll ask him. Definitely isn't as heavy as my own


  • #2910
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    What about the TR3 ones?


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  • #2911
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Reggie. wrote: »
    What about the TR3 ones?

    They are supposed to be very good alright. No idea of price. Never looked into it.


  • #2912
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    roosterman71 wrote: »
    They are supposed to be very good alright. No idea of price. Never looked into it.

    1400


  • #2913
    grassroot1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Grueller wrote: »
    I am going to look at a bogballe fertiliser spreader at the weekend. What are the common issues to look out for lads?
    This one is being sold following the passing of the owner. The man selling it has had it valued but can't tell me if it is 1.5 or 2 tonne nor what spread width the discs are. I have no experience of disc spinners as we always had wagtails here until now. So how do I know the spread width and how will I know the hopper capacity?

    i can forget about it so.....


  • #2914
    timple23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Reggie. wrote: »
    1400

    1700 incl vat


  • #2915
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    timple23 wrote: »
    1700 incl vat

    Holy jaysus. I thought the 1400 was inc


  • #2916
    timple23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Holy jaysus. I thought the 1400 was inc

    https://jmagridesign.com/product/tr-3-bale-handler/

    Add to cart and vat will show in checkout.

    There one up for auction maybe a month ago, second hand, was bid to 1600 excluding fees, new one would be cheaper.


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  • #2917
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    i can forget about it so.....

    You were thinking of it too? A brand new 2 tonne with lights and cover in farm services in Coolgreaney is €7500 including VAT. This one might be too dear with that info in mind.


  • #2918
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,159 ✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/28199218

    This look ok lads? Just looking for a simple way of stacking silage bales. Will need to get brackets changed by the looks of it. Assuming 200 euro cost or there about for that.


  • #2919
    roosterman71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    893bet wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/28199218

    This look ok lads? Just looking for a simple way of stacking silage bales. Will need to get brackets changed by the looks of it. Assuming 200 euro cost or there about for that.

    I'd be hoping to get something a lot cleaner for 650


  • #2920
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,159 ✭✭✭893bet


    roosterman71 wrote: »
    I'd be hoping to get something a lot cleaner for 650

    There ain’t a lot out there really. Second hand machinery thin on ground. Could prob get new for 1100 or so.


  • #2921
    grassroot1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Grueller wrote: »
    You were thinking of it too? A brand new 2 tonne with lights and cover in farm services in Coolgreaney is €7500 including VAT. This one might be too dear with that info in mind.

    Just caught my eye when I was going through the list have been thinking of changing. Plus23% vat and commission of 5 or 10% makes it scaldy if your not careful.


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  • #2922
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Just caught my eye when I was going through the list have been thinking of changing. Plus23% vat and commission of 5 or 10% makes it scaldy if your not careful.

    The VAT is a killer when you're not registered alright


  • #2923
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    new prodig handler with the spikes and removable rollers is €1350 inc vat

    fairbrother and jm agri elephants trunk handlers are €1700 inc vat

    scully handler is €1550 inc vat

    looking like ill be working the softhands for another season anyway at that money!


  • #2924
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Is the soft hands really that bad??or just if your bales are a touch soft?


  • #2925
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    ruwithme wrote: »
    Is the soft hands really that bad??or just if your bales are a touch soft?

    i just dont get on with it,leafy grass bales are better stacked on their side which isn't really an option with the softhands and unless you leave a gap between bales on a trailer or stack you will damage the plastic


  • #2926
    hopeso
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭hopeso


    weatherbyfoxer wrote: »
    i just dont get on with it,leafy grass bales are better stacked on their side which isn't really an option with the softhands and unless you leave a gap between bales on a trailer or stack you will damage the plastic

    Would you not be able to slide them gently together in the stack once you've tipped them?


  • #2927
    DBK1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    weatherbyfoxer wrote: »
    i just dont get on with it,leafy grass bales are better stacked on their side which isn't really an option with the softhands and unless you leave a gap between bales on a trailer or stack you will damage the plastic
    Elephant trunk is something I’ve been meaning to buy the last few years but there’s just always somewhere else the money is needed.

    We’ve static lifters, the roller type and soft hands and we use them all depending on where and what way we’re stacking. I’m not a fan of the soft hands at all. It’s fine to use on strong dry silage but for anyone trying to make leafy quality bales I think they do more harm than good. First of all I think squeezing the bales in to load and unload can cause air pockets to form. It’s hard to stack them tight unless you can come at the stack from a 45 degree angle. I do the same when unloading from the trailer, come at them at a 45 degree angle so you’re not trying to get the hands in between 2 bales. If it’s a short draw or no road work on the draw I leave them well spaced out on the trailer, much easier then.


  • #2928
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Just caught my eye when I was going through the list have been thinking of changing. Plus23% vat and commission of 5 or 10% makes it scaldy if your not careful.

    Last local Quinn machinery auction there I had a few pieces for sale.
    The commission was taken off me not the buyer.
    So say it made 900. 90 was taken off my 900 leaving me with 810.
    Could be the same this time.


  • #2929
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Say my name wrote: »
    Last local Quinn machinery auction there I had a few pieces for sale.
    The commission was taken off me not the buyer.
    So say it made 900. 90 was taken off my 900 leaving me with 810.
    Could be the same this time.

    I think both sides pay SMN.


  • #2930
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Grueller wrote: »
    I think both sides pay SMN.

    They're definitely raking in then so.

    Still ..might be worth a phone call.


  • #2931
    French Toast
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Thinking about the economics of a 2000 gallon tanker and a dribble bar / trailing shoe. I'd get 60% back via TAMS.

    There seems to be reasonable value in 2nd hand tanks. Would a man be better off buying one of those and drawing the grant on the shoe alone? Or going all out and buying a new tanker, shoe and all? Don't want blowing money on brand new gear if there's value 2nd hand.

    Any opinions welcome.


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  • #2932
    Morris Moss
    Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    French Toast wrote: »
    Thinking about the economics of a 2000 gallon tanker and a dribble bar / trailing shoe. I'd get 60% back via TAMS.

    There seems to be reasonable value in 2nd hand tanks. Would a man be better off buying one of those and drawing the grant on the shoe alone? Or going all out and buying a new tanker, shoe and all? Don't want blowing money on brand new gear if there's value 2nd hand.

    Any opinions welcome.

    Ordered a tank 9 months ago and still no sign of it, they're after going up about 25% in the last 6 months as well, think you'd be as well off looking at second hand tanks, lots of good ones around for reasonable money, if I could go back I'd do it myself.


  • #2933
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Whatever the difference between air brakes and hydraulic on a dump trailer lads? Which is more reliable


  • #2934
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    French Toast wrote: »
    Thinking about the economics of a 2000 gallon tanker and a dribble bar / trailing shoe. I'd get 60% back via TAMS.

    There seems to be reasonable value in 2nd hand tanks. Would a man be better off buying one of those and drawing the grant on the shoe alone? Or going all out and buying a new tanker, shoe and all? Don't want blowing money on brand new gear if there's value 2nd hand.

    Any opinions welcome.

    The big hidden cost in second hand tanks is tyres,could set you back 4k to get good rating tyres in bigger ones.also the cheaper tanks tend to be the tanks with axle too far forward and not very suitable fordribble/trailing conversions.


  • #2935
    davidk1394
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Could anyone tell me if I can buy spurious Malone tedder tines anywhere in Ireland?


  • #2936
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭enricoh


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Whatever the difference between air brakes and hydraulic on a dump trailer lads? Which is more reliable

    I think air brakes come on a split second faster. No real difference reliability wise, maybe the hydraulic rams would get slacker after a good few years.


  • #2937
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Say a 20 ton dump trailer, how much stone would it fit?


  • #2938
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Whatever the difference between air brakes and hydraulic on a dump trailer lads? Which is more reliable

    Air brakes are safer because you’ve to build up air pressure to release them...hydraulic brakes build pressure to apply the brakes. Therefore you’ve brakes with a broken air hose, and no brakes with a broken hydraulic hose.


  • #2939
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Say a 20 ton dump trailer, how much stone would it fit?

    Depends on the size of the stone...!

    Sounds like you’re going at ‘the buildings’?


  • #2940
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Was thinking of trading in my 10 ton, she has no brakes and I do a nice bit of work with it! A good dump trailer lasts along time


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  • #2941
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Depends on the size of the stone...!

    Sounds like you’re going at ‘the buildings’?

    Lol, has machinery prices risen over in France? Do you see them stabilising?


  • #2942
    grassroot1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Say my name wrote: »
    Last local Quinn machinery auction there I had a few pieces for sale.
    The commission was taken off me not the buyer.
    So say it made 900. 90 was taken off my 900 leaving me with 810.
    Could be the same this time.

    Commission rate of 5% plus 23% VAT applies to all items.
    Did I read it wrong is the 23% charged on top of the hammer price or vat on the commission?


  • #2943
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    Commission rate of 5% plus 23% VAT applies to all items.
    Did I read it wrong is the 23% charged on top of the hammer price or vat on the commission?

    Vat only on commission.
    No vat on items unless stated there's a vat docket.

    E.g e10,000 bid. e500 com. e115 vat.
    Total e10,615 pay.


  • #2944
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    currently trying to buy a 20ft silage rake,after being halfway across the country looking at used ones that are basically bet to death from contract work.im starting to look at new ones.
    have it down to 3 20ft machines
    massey ferguson 662 at 17000
    claas 2600 at 19500
    krone tc640 at 19000

    sort of swaying towards the krone as it seems the best made machine and is the most compact..anyone have any recommendations?


  • #2945
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Grueller wrote: »
    You were thinking of it too? A brand new 2 tonne with lights and cover in farm services in Coolgreaney is €7500 including VAT. This one might be too dear with that info in mind.

    Congratulations!! :D


  • #2946
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Say my name wrote: »
    Congratulations!! :D

    Who said I bought it? Did you get anything?


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  • #2947
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Grueller wrote: »
    Who said I bought it? Did you get anything?

    I didn't even get a click on.

    Very hot sale.
    I may go and wash my own tractors now..

    €52,000 for a 2008 JD 6330.
    €62,500 for a 2013 JD 6630.
    €14,600 for a 2007 redrock grain trailer.
    €13,000 kv 4 f plough.
    €35,000 1999 jcb site master.
    €15,600 Toomey 22ft grain trailer.
    €25,000 2002 mf 4355.

    Com + vat on that too.


  • #2948
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Say my name wrote: »
    I didn't even get a click on.

    Very hot sale.
    I may go and wash my own tractors now..

    €52,000 for a 2008 JD 6330.
    €62,500 for a 2013 JD 6630.
    €14,600 for a 2007 redrock grain trailer.
    €13,000 kv 4 f plough.
    €35,000 1999 jcb site master.
    €15,600 Toomey 22ft grain trailer.
    €25,000 2002 mf 4355.

    Com + vat on that too.

    What did the pallet forks and Morris trailer make Say?
    I had my eye on them but ended up missing the complete auction!


  • #2949
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    What did the pallet forks and Morris trailer make Say?
    I had my eye on them but ended up missing the complete auction!

    €650 pallet fork
    €2900 Morris trailer.

    €7100 2006 Mercedes E220 not running.


  • #2950
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Say my name wrote: »
    €650 pallet fork
    €2900 Morris trailer.

    €7100 2006 Mercedes E220 not running.

    Jeepers that was an expensive pallet forks
    Trailer probably wasn't bad value


  • #2951
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I bought the spinner.


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