Downton Abbey

njs030 · 13-11-2015 1:21pm

Stinjy wrote: »

Okay, I've been thinking, maybe Gregson shows up. He's been kept prisoner or something... that woukd be a fantastic ending for edith..

But he's dead and his body was found? Mary's haircut completely overshadowed the news of his remains being found if so few people remember it!

Though I love your idea of the baby being called Mary!!!

iguana · 13-11-2015 1:32pm

Stinjy wrote: »

Mary didn't deserve the marriage shes such a bitch. Its getting tiring and Edith started out worse than mary!!

I don't like Mary but I didn't like her marriage because tbh, I don't think even she deserved to be stuck in what will surely end up a deeply abusive marriage. I mean this guy told her that if she wanted to break up with him he would make it as 'hard and horrible' for her as possible. I'd be calling the guards if a man I broke up with spoke to me like that. Even if I'd been feeling sad at our break-up, as soon as those words were out of his mouth I'd be terrified. And this was just after he started hurling insults at her because she wouldn't take him back. To top it off, it later turned out that when he decided to drop in on the woman who had recently ended her relationship with him, he had first procured a marriage license!:eek: Jesus Christ! Mary needed a restraining order at the end of the episode, not a wedding.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 13-11-2015 1:52pm

iguana wrote: »

I don't like Mary but I didn't like her marriage because tbh, I don't think even she deserved to be stuck in what will surely end up a deeply abusive marriage. I mean this guy told her that if she wanted to break up with him he would make it as 'hard and horrible' for her as possible. I'd be calling the guards if a man I broke up with spoke to me like that. Even if I'd been feeling sad at our break-up, as soon as those words were out of his mouth I'd be terrified. And this was just after he started hurling insults at her because she wouldn't take him back. To top it off, it later turned out that when he decided to drop in on the woman who had recently ended her relationship with him, he had first procured a marriage license!:eek: Jesus Christ! Mary needed a restraining order at the end of the episode, not a wedding.

I agree. I hate when TV shows/films have the man behave like that and we're supposed to swoon. Everyone sticking their oar in and giving Mary a hard time over it was annoying too. I don't even understand why she changed her mind in the end anyway? The underlying reason for her rejecting him was the fact he was a racing driver. She didn't want to have to live in fear all the time that she'd lose another husband to a car accident. She didn't even discuss that with him in the end.

spurious · 13-11-2015 3:16pm

I'm not sure the body they found was properly identified. I remember the Earl saying something like 'what little was left of him' at the time.
It would be just like Julian Fellowes to bring him back - just like Matthew's remarkable re-working legs and other bits.

Radio5 · 13-11-2015 7:16pm

The happy ending for Mary just didn't ring through in the light of what she had done to her sister. Yes, it could have happened over a couple of episodes but to have it in one episode was just ridiculous.

I hope Bertie comes back from Tangiers and decides to marry Edith anyway. It would be a bit far fetched to have Gregson alive after all this time but of course far fetched is a common theme in storylines on Downton.

I think Carson has turned awkward as a kind of defence mechanism. The only world he has ever known, that of service, blind loyalty and deference to the artisocracy is coming to an end. He is trying to stay in control and finding that he can't. Staff are leaving to find other jobs and the old ways are gone. He compensates by being unpleasant and trying to wield whatever power he has left. His wife is more of a realist but he is still more in tune to the old ways.

Have said it before, but Cora really just wallpaper this series. Edith's chance of happiness and future security is scuppered by her sister and most unrealistic to have no scene with Cora going to try and comfort Edith before she goes to London. No, it's all about Mary and even then, it's left to Tom and Granny to sort that out.

ollaetta · 13-11-2015 7:22pm

As someone who used to think Tom to be more wooden than a Barna shed I have to hold my hand up and say that Allen Leech's acting and the character's role in the last two episodes has been very good. There, I've said it.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 13-11-2015 8:41pm

ollaetta wrote: »

As someone who used to think Tom to be more wooden than a Barna shed I have to hold my hand up and say that Allen Leech's acting and the character's role in the last two episodes has been very good. There, I've said it.

I agree. Mary was much better than usual in a lot of the scenes the last 2 weeks. I think the writing was better in places too. They must have let an intern write a few pages of script.

Tom sounded very Dublin when he was shouting at Mary too. I think him trying to sound proper takes away from his acting at times.

Stinjy · 14-11-2015 8:39am

Tom is definitely more of a Dub when he rants, it's great!!

SarahBM · 14-11-2015 6:14pm

Well after weeks of avoiding this thread I have finally gotten round to catching up on Downton! Until today I had only seen the first two episodes so I have just binge watched the rest. OMFG great season! I don't even know where to begin.
I think I will start with Thomas. I know many people will say that he made his bed and should lye in it, but I did feel sorry for him in the end. It was sad that no one could believe he had feelings. He was a tortured soul but he made everyone his enemy and pushed everyone away, and therefore ended up sad and alone. Just such a sad situation.

Carson and Mrs Huges, well they are a match made in heaven, aren't they?! She has the measure of him. He is HER curmudgeon:D

I do hope Anna and Bates end up happy. They, out of everyone (bar perhaps Lady Edith) deserve it.

Mary. I just don't think she deserved a happy ending. She is the most cold hearted horrible person ever! She doesn't deserve to get what she wants, but then I guess life doesn't always work out the way we think it should.
Her and Tom's scenes were just brilliant! He really is the only one besides Granny who has the gumption to put her in her place. Granny has really accepted him. Which is nice.
I loved the scene at dinner when Gwen came back. And she was telling them all what Lady Sybil had done for her. TThey were all so surprised except Tom. They had no idea, imagine, that their own daughter was such a kind and giving person. They must have been horrified to realise that they didn't know her half as much as one of the maids.
I have to give a mention to one of my favourite, if not the least popular character, Mr Molesley. What a lovely man. So kind and generous to Daisy and I am delighted to see him getting his just rewards. I would love to see him and Baxter get together.
and Andy and Daisy too

Perhaps Mrs Pattmore and Mr Mason may have a thing at Christmas. There must be a Christmas special.
I felt like that episode wasn't over. Edith surely deserves a proper ending.

Baby4 · 16-11-2015 11:42am

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FloatingVoter · 16-11-2015 6:14pm

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Yes, she should have tact in the blood and bone - revenge is a dish best served etc. But the writing and characterisation have gone to hell in general. Edith couldn't run a bath never mind a magazine by remote control. Carson is well able to make a bed (starting as a footman) and can cook all by himself (all single men could knock out a decent fry and a pot of spuds back in the day). And he is not a bully or a fool. The Dowager couldn't give a monkeys about anybody and would not take the EasyJet;) back from the south of France to impart wisdom.

They are in the process of a hasty conclusion.

Radio5 · 16-11-2015 7:40pm

Baby4 wrote: »

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A little but it's always been there, just not as obvious while she's been busy running the estate and searching for 2nd hubby.

Agree with the poster about the scenes when Gwen came back. Her memories of Sybil rang so true and all she had done for her. As you said, it was sad that her family seemed to know so little of her character. Of course she was the 3rd daughter, so never likely to be the one who got the most attention. The priority even then was a suitable marriage for Mary, after the cousin had died on the Titanic, preferably to Matthew when he was located.

There have been a lot of fortuitous deaths over the years. All Lavinia's father's heirs died pretty conveniently so Matthew got Mr Swire's money and saved Downton. Now Bertie's cousin dying and him becoming a Marquis.

Will Lady Rose and hubby return for Christmas?

SarahBM · 16-11-2015 7:55pm

Will Bertie?!?!?!?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 16-11-2015 7:55pm

Radio5 wrote: »

Will Lady Rose and hubby return for Christmas?

I believe Lady Rose will be in the Christmas one. Lily James has been busy since she left so nice of her to squeeze them in.

syklops · 17-11-2015 2:20am

Baby4 wrote: »

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Nope. She sabotaged Edith's engagement once before already. At best, she just fell into old habits.

jezzer · 17-11-2015 4:28pm

Tom and Mary would have made a great couple, a bit like John and Mary from Fr Ted...

FloatingVoter · 17-11-2015 6:13pm

jezzer wrote: »

Tom and Mary would have made a great couple, a bit like John and Mary from Fr Ted...

You spoiled the ending where he whisks her off to a desert(ed) island and they have 15 kids. The inbred grandkids constitute the entire population of Craggy Island. Overheard in a script conference between Julian Fellowes and Linehan / Matthews.
You heard it here first - Downton Abbey was always really Ted - The Early Years.

brian_t · 02-12-2015 9:52pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 02-12-2015 10:05pm

It's definitely on Stephen's Day on TV3, for those of us stuck with UTV Ireland.

Asarlai · 02-12-2015 11:04pm

brian_t wrote: »

sniff...

brian_t · 06-12-2015 4:25pm

BAFTA Celebrates Downton Abbey

ITV is showing it at 9.00pm on Monday 21st December.
TV3 is showing it at 9.00pm on Wednesday 23rd December

Back in August the cast and crew were honoured with a special award presented by Julie Walters at the Richmond Theatre in London,
Jonathan Ross hosts.
Dame Maggie Smith and Hugh Bonneville perform a specially written sketch, and Dame Kiri Te Kanawa and Julian Ovenden perform live.

brian_t · 22-12-2015 2:09pm

Michelle Dockery, Hugh Bonneville and Allen Leech perform a scene from "Downton Abbey" using good ol' American accents.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 22-12-2015 2:17pm

brian_t wrote: »

Michelle Dockery, Hugh Bonneville and Allen Leech perform a scene from "Downton Abbey" using good ol' American accents.

I wonder when this was filmed? Her fiancee died on the 13th. Can't imagine she was off in the US in the days leading up to it.

brian_t · 22-12-2015 2:40pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I wonder when this was filmed? Her fiancee died on the 13th. Can't imagine she was off in the US in the days leading up to it.

The show was broadcast on December 9th and is pre-recorded in the afternoon according to - http://www.freetoursbyfoot.com/how-to-get-tickets-to-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 22-12-2015 4:00pm

brian_t wrote: »

The show was broadcast on December 9th and is pre-recorded in the afternoon according to - http://www.freetoursbyfoot.com/how-to-get-tickets-to-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

Still seems weird she was away. I suppose they have certain press obligations but you'd think they'd have let her off.

Richard Hillman · 26-12-2015 1:22am

I don't care how predictable it was, I was not looking for anything else. It was glorious. It was a glorious period in our lives.

FloatingVoter · 26-12-2015 2:47am

A very good send off. Some laughs. Definitely made for the people who stuck with the show through thick and very thin times. Sure it wasn't Fargo or Breaking Bad but it never intended to be - just daft fluffy nonsense.
If you are reading this and yet to watch on TV3 get some alcohol in first. Older family members can do the drugs of their choice.

Btw....this explains the Clara Bow reference.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 27-12-2015 12:33am

Sneaky buggers showing that precise part of Edith's wedding where they ask if anyone objects. We were watching with bated breath full sure something bad was going to happen.

It was all fairly predictable and cheesy but that's what Downton has been for most of its run.

I'm off to write Return to Downton. Set in the 40's the focus is on George and the other kids. Now grown up George doesn't want to run the estate, he wants to join up and go to war. Meanwhile Sibby and Marigold (and Mary's new baby) are left running the estate as it is housing a boat load of kids who have been evacuated from the city because of air raids. Mary's youngest and Anna's are the will they/won't they of the piece.

Snoopy1 · 28-12-2015 5:31pm

Oh My
I sneakily watched it in work and now im crying loads. Happy tears i mean.
Cant believe its all over

SarahBM · 28-12-2015 9:52pm

Thoroughly enjoyed the finale and I thought it was the perfect send off!

syklops · 28-12-2015 10:29pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I'm off to write Return to Downton. Set in the 40's the focus is on George and the other kids. Now grown up George doesn't want to run the estate, he wants to join up and go to war. Meanwhile Sibby and Marigold (and Mary's new baby) are left running the estate as it is housing a boat load of kids who have been evacuated from the city because of air raids. Mary's youngest and Anna's are the will they/won't they of the piece.

I'm off to write the adventures of the Young Mr Bates. Forger, Spy, Batman to the Earl of Grantham....

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 28-12-2015 10:42pm

syklops wrote: »

I'm off to write the adventures of the Young Mr Bates. Forger, Spy, Batman to the Earl of Grantham....

Ooh, that's a good one. How did he hurt his leg? How did he come to get tangled up with that auld bitch Mrs. Bates? Lots of scope for adventure.

syklops · 28-12-2015 11:32pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Ooh, that's a good one. How did he hurt his leg? How did he come to get tangled up with that auld bitch Mrs. Bates? Lots of scope for adventure.

Its Indiana Jones meets James Bond only instead of Nazis and Soviets there are Zulus.

FloatingVoter · 28-12-2015 11:43pm

syklops wrote: »

Its Indiana Jones meets James Bond only instead of Nazis and Soviets there are Zulus.

..and the timeline is right to fit in Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper. Handy with a steak knife is our Mr Bates.

Waitsian · 31-12-2015 8:37pm

Mr Bates, aka Brendan Coyle, popped up as a baddie in the Xmas episode of Murdoch Mysteries.

syklops · 31-12-2015 8:51pm

mod9maple wrote: »

Mr Bates, aka Brendan Coyle, popped up as a baddie in the Xmas episode of Murdoch Mysteries.

Is there anything he can't do?

JP Liz V1 · 21-05-2019 11:35pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu3mP0c51hE

angeleyes · 22-05-2019 8:45am

It looks fabulous - can't wait for September.

brian_t · 19-04-2021 5:25pm

Film sequel coming for Christmas.

The as yet untitled film began shooting last week, with all key cast members – including Hugh Bonneville and Maggie Smith – returning alongside new faces including Hugh Dancy, Laura Haddock and Dominic West.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/apr/19/downton-abbey-film-sequel-set-for-christmas-2021-release

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