Survivor: Winners at War

seligehgit wrote: »

Wow the survivor premiere truly lived up to all the hype.Simply epic.

I did not truly give credit to how strong a player Natalie is.Her swimming ability and physical strength were awesome to witness.Very unlucky to be voted out due to her tightness to Jeremy.Impressive in her attainment of the HII.Bizarre decision to give the Queen same?

Tyson is one of my favourite players but is in trouble due to his likeability,several appearances and past connections.

Danni does not strike me as a winner.Good call to put out Rob's name for a first vote out but she did not anticipate Ben throwing her under the bus.She dug herself out of a hole by telling the truth and subsequently aligned with Rob's older era alliance.

Sophie has aligned herself with Yul and the others outside of the so called poker alliance and the Tony/Sarah alliance.This alliance has potential to dominate this tribe.

Jeremy is now a tad on the outs after Natalie's vote out,we never did get to see Ben disclose to him who was the mastermind behind the vote.

LOL at Sandra taking such umbrage at Boston Rob's failure to disclose his partaking whilst they were hitched up on the Island of the Idols last season.I can't hide my dislike for her and I'm happily in the camp that she's the most over rated of 2 time winners.She won both seasons simply by spreading rumour,innuendo,lies and a small smattering of truths.She won season 20 simply because Hantz was disliked so much and Parvati was guilty by association.Amber could barely hide her dislike for her after Sandra's in all probability truth that Amber was no longer up to the pace of the game nor likely ruthless enough.She has a huge target on her back from Amber's better half's direction.

Disappointed with Ben,I can't understand why he chose to disclose Dani's intentions to Rob other than he was awe struck or to try to buy some loyalty.But he ended up doing it in a half assed fashion with his initial reluctance to name the person who threw Rob's name out.He got well and truly schooled by Rob.A lesson hard learned.Thankfully he subsequently came to the realisation of the error of his ways and the need for a solid alliance to counteract Rob's preeminence.

I am afraid Michelle appears to be largely lost at sea and was on the outs on the initial vote out.She readily admits she would have scant appearances on any venn diagrams outlining friendships/connections.She will be an early vote out or a goat.

Wendell is a part of what appears to be a solid alliance and is very sociable and can built a shelter.He has all the attributes required to progress deep into the game.

Adam made the schoolboy error of immediately post arrival at camp heading/scampering off for water with Denise and getting lost.:D Nothing surer to put a target on your back.Both parties seem to have survived this miscalculation.

Yul is truly on of the great thinkers of this game and although he admitted it is a long time since he has played he still has so solid a game in his tank.He revealed all re the now infamous poker game and the multitude of connections that return players possess of.I can only imagine he watched back all the seasons to connect all the dots/make sense of all the venn diagrams and kept afoot of any celebrity survivor reunions.Although I was devastated when Ozzy lost the vote to him on Cook Island I could'nt and still can't but admire his game intelligence.An early favourite for me.He is in remarkably good shape for somebody who has not played in over 10 years.

Sarah is tight with Tony and is a player to be respected with a strong physical,strategic game with a touch of ruthlessness.She has not got a big edit thus far.

Amber was a real sweetheart in her first 2 seasons and I do not believe much has changed.Except the game is now more frenetic and there some many new additions Advantages,Fire Tokens,Idol Neutralisers,Island of Extinction.She could not get the stench of the poker alliance/part of a pair off her back.Good call to vote her out.

Boston Rob was quite amazingly not voted out at the initial vote.Great kudos to his brilliance.He absolutely schooled Ben who fell at his feet which are unbelievably made of clay.Through a mixture of intimidation and forthrightness he got Dani on side for his alliance.Not the first time such strong armed tactics have worked,although same will not work against a stronger character.Yet his tribe that should vote him out so badly need him.He virtually singlehandedly drove them to an unlikely come from behind victory in the second IC.His locking horns with Sandra will be awesome.His brilliance as a player is underlined by his ability to keep schtum re his intentions for this season whilst breaking bread with Sandra throughout the entirety of the last season.I think in the end the newer members will see sense and vote him out when the opportunity arises.He's simply too great a threat.

Parvati has come back a different player as a married mother who will no longer flirt her away to victory like a venus fly trap.To typecast her as same takes away from her previous brilliance as a player.Yet she admits she will have to perhaps approach the game from a more motherly angle and make alliances with past sworn enemies ( Rob ).

Kim was a worthy winner in her past season but the edit thus far has given her an isolated and distant role.She seems pigeon holed into the poker alliance and appears unilkely to be in a position to strategise her way out of an early exit.

Tony is one of my favourite machiavellian type players,I was a huge fan of Hantz.It's only a game lol.He was a worthy winner of his season but only won out of a friendship that all but doomed Woo to certain loss.No doubts he was the best player that season.He locked horns upon his return and I'm in no way convinced the claimed ceasefire is anything more than a facade.He has tried to rein in his urge to scamper off looking for HIIs and strategise at every opportunity but a leopard never changes his spots and he will revert back to playing hard when necessary as he rightly told Amber when she called him out.I think his willingness to play hard will ultimately prove his downfall.It appears he survived the ladder!

Nick is one of the more recent winners and same is an advantage in terms of the type of gameplay required.He is part of a power alliance yet there is a perception he is a bit devious.

Great to see Ethan from Africa living life full as part of the Survivor experience.A welcome distraction from thoughts of one's mortality and fears of relapse.He's a part of Rob's alliance but I can not see him surviving deep into the game.

TBH i am not that mad on these fire tokens,buy a pizza and a few other silly ones.Yet as I think Nick mentioned the ability to use them correctly could be very important in terms of the game's outcome.

Again I am not sold on the Island of Extinction.I do not think it worked particularly well previously and ultimately a vote out should mean your torch is snuffed once and for all.

Interesting conversation re survivor(s) Amber/Sandra willingness to sacrifice friendships for the 2 million bucks.All these guys presumably are still millionaires post their initial win and monies made post same from endorsements,celebrity appearances.

Amber still has two shots are the 2 million bucks and will at least not have to sacrifice one friendship.

S.M.B. wrote: »

I can live with Idols being easily found on EoE if it means no Idols are hidden on the main island especially if it means that you can't simply go running around looking for Idols at the back end of the game, make a fire and all of a sudden you are in the final 3.

If Idols can only be gifted from / purchased on EoE it places a bit more weight on the social game which I've no issue with at all.

Also looks like someone arriving late to EoE will have more tokens and is then more likely to afford the advantage to get back into the game which could only be a good thing.

PS: strong opener, cracking cast, wanted Natalie to go deep.

kingtut wrote: »

Episode 3 - enjoyed this episode and the likes of Sarah having to go to the other camp to get the steal a vote advantage. This is how difficult getting advantages through fire tokens should be!!

Can't believe Adam is playing such a silly game, why the hell are you telling everyone all of your alliances plans? Idiot!

Good move getting Ethan out of the trio. Definitely the easiest to target from that group. Hopefully Rob and Parvati are now on edge although I doubt it.