Seems like a good deal on firewood....

Muahahaha · 29-11-2020 5:10pm

I use four small firelighters and about 6 sticks of the kindling from Aldi which is always super dry (unlike their logs). I always put small logs on first so you can get that bed of glowing embers, the larger logs then take easier once you have that.

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 5:25pm

Got this just now

chris_ie · 29-11-2020 6:19pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

I use balled up newspaper (thanks galway/mayo advertiser) and 4 bits of kindling, lights easy. I only need firelighters if I'm using coal.

I leave the door of the stove cracked and all vents open when the kindlnig is getting going, once there's a good draw going I stick in two or three logs, close the door fully but leave the vents open for another bit. Once the logs are lit I fully close all the lower vents that bring the air in from under the grate and only leave the airwash/top vent partially open then that's it.

Every stove is a bit different though i suppose.

Do you not find the temperature of the stove drops when you close off the primary air? I have an Erin stove, if I close of the primary air stove temp drops, only concern I’d have then is around non optimal burning and creosote

deisedav · 29-11-2020 6:40pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Do you recommend any please?

I tried the burner firelighters recently with my order of wood from surefirewood. They are individually wrapped so no smell of kerosene in the room or off your fingers when lighting the fire . They burn hot with a good flame for about 5 minutes and only 2 are needed to get a good hot fire going. I was so impressed I recently bought a full box (500) from amazon. Cost about 30 pounds but hopefully will last me 3 winters.

deisedav · 29-11-2020 6:40pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Do you recommend any please?

I tried the burner firelighters recently with my order of wood from surefirewood. They are individually wrapped so no smell of kerosene in the room or off your fingers when lighting the fire . They burn hot with a good flame for about 5 minutes and only 2 are needed to get a good hot fire going. I was so impressed I recently bought a full box (500) from amazon. Cost about 30 pounds but hopefully will last me 3 winters.

oleras · 29-11-2020 6:53pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

What's the best material to get the fire started? I have used dry sticks but struggled to get the fire going.

The pallet that the logs came in, break it down into kindling.

Mickeroo · 29-11-2020 7:08pm

chris_ie wrote: »

Do you not find the temperature of the stove drops when you close off the primary air? I have an Erin stove, if I close of the primary air stove temp drops, only concern I’d have then is around non optimal burning and creosote

No not in my experience, I just adjust the air wash if it needs a bit more air. If its fully open there will be a big flame and the wood will be burned in no time, I always try make sure there's a nice flame. I'm pretty sure it says in my stove's manual to close the primary air when burning wood once you have the fire going.

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 7:14pm

Could you please share the Amazon link?

deisedav wrote: »

I tried the burner firelighters recently with my order of wood from surefirewood. They are individually wrapped so no smell of kerosene in the room or off your fingers when lighting the fire . They burn hot with a good flame for about 5 minutes and only 2 are needed to get a good hot fire going. I was so impressed I recently bought a full box (500) from amazon. Cost about 30 pounds but hopefully will last me 3 winters.

OmegaGene · 29-11-2020 7:22pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Could you please share the Amazon link?

See how the aldi firefighters work first, they never fail me and I only use 2 cubes with bits of kindling

chris_ie · 29-11-2020 8:40pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

No not in my experience, I just adjust the air wash if it needs a bit more air. If its fully open there will be a big flame and the wood will be burned in no time, I always try make sure there's a nice flame. I'm pretty sure it says in my stove's manual to close the primary air when burning wood once you have the fire going.

All ours says is keep secondary air open for wood. We usually mostly close the the primary air too but the temperature of the stove drops. As I mentioned, the only concern I’d have is creosote build up in the long run.

vicwatson · 29-11-2020 9:38pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Could you please share the Amazon link?

Did you look at the YouTube video as per my suggestion a few posts back? The firelighters from Aldi and kindling will work no problem, look at the video for the top down lighting method. It never fails.

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 9:56pm

Guys,

The fire smoke alarm went on 4 times in a matter of 1 hour!!

It's a new house. Could it be possible that smoke alarm is too sensitive?

I had to eventually turn off the fire by shutting down both primary and secondary vents.

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 9:57pm

This is closest link I found

https://youtu.be/433myBuH18g

vicwatson wrote: »

Did you look at the YouTube video as per my suggestion a few posts back? The firelighters from Aldi and kindling will work no problem, look at the video for the top down lighting method. It never fails.

OmegaGene · 29-11-2020 10:00pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Guys,

The fire smoke alarm went on 4 times in a matter of 1 hour!!

It's a new house. Could it be possible that smoke alarm is too sensitive?

I had to eventually turn off the fire by shutting down both primary and secondary vents.

Am I right in saying it’s a new stove ? If so you’re meant to have a few small and large fires may have caused some smoke, I’ve never had the smoke alarm go off from the stove
Do some googling

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 10:10pm

Yes, it's a new vitae inset stove.

I had put in only 2 logs of oak wood.

Carbon monoxide alarm remained okay throughout.

Am I supposed to fire small quantity only?

OmegaGene wrote: »

Am I right in saying it’s a new stove ? If so you’re meant to have a few small and large fires may have caused some smoke, I’ve never had the smoke alarm go off from the stove
Do some googling

OmegaGene · 29-11-2020 10:15pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Yes, it's a new vitae inset stove.

I had put in only 2 logs of oak wood.

Carbon monoxide alarm remained okay throughout.

Am I supposed to fire small quantity only?

I was told to light small fires for a few days anyway and there was a smell from the stove at the start so maybe that’s what set the alarm off but I’m only guessing
All the smoke should be going up the chimney

deisedav · 29-11-2020 10:20pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Could you please share the Amazon link?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B075NV7PYJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

shanec1928 · 29-11-2020 10:24pm

masterboy123 wrote: »

Yes, it's a new vitae inset stove.

I had put in only 2 logs of oak wood.

Carbon monoxide alarm remained okay throughout.

Am I supposed to fire small quantity only?

Yes first few fires should be tiny, a fire log is more than enough to burn off all the chemicals in the stove from manufacturing

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 10:25pm

We didn't see any smoke with our eyes. But yes there was smell and I read that it is from the paint that needs to be cured.

I am check more info on Google now.

Thanks

OmegaGene wrote: »

I was told to light small fires for a few days anyway and there was a smell from the stove at the start so maybe that’s what set the alarm off but I’m only guessing
All the smoke should be going up the chimney

RonTon · 29-11-2020 10:26pm

What the vitae stove like ? You like it so far?
Build quality ok?

masterboy123 wrote: »

Yes, it's a new vitae inset stove.

I had put in only 2 logs of oak wood.

Carbon monoxide alarm remained okay throughout.

Am I supposed to fire small quantity only?

masterboy123 · 29-11-2020 10:35pm

It's in inset stove with a solid built quality.
Very easy to clean.
Modern looking.

Only issue that has put me off is that it triggered fire alarm 4 times today. But I believe its part of curing the paint.

RonTon wrote: »

What the vitae stove like ? You like it so far?
Build quality ok?

vicwatson · 30-11-2020 12:34am

masterboy123 wrote: »

This is closest link I found

https://youtu.be/433myBuH18g

That’s it, follow him and you won’t go wrong

Large bottle small glass · 30-11-2020 10:23am

masterboy123 wrote: »

What's the best material to get the fire started? I have used dry sticks but struggled to get the fire going.

I assume you are trying to start the fire with your oak? That's not easy or a good strategy.

Oak is a brilliant fuel, assuming its properly seasoned, but is hard to get started even when dry.

A light hardwood, like ash, sally etc or softwood would make for good starter fuel. Once these are cut to kindling size you will have no difficulty getting fire started, once you have it going add your oak then.

A woodfire like any fire is a chemical reaction. With wood the heat from your firelighter will initially "excite" the non carbon parts of wood to form a wood gas which will then ignite. The lighter, smaller drier the wood is the quicker this will happen.

Once this gets started and you keep air supply up the rest of wood will ignite. Once wood gas are burned off you will be left will emebers which is a carbon fire which needs less air.

TLDR, buy some kindling or a small hatchet and go to work on a dry bag of softwood/ash

joujoujou · 30-11-2020 4:38pm

One ZIP (individually wrapped) firelighter + 3-4 oak kindlings (chopped them myself from Monahan's logs), set logs on fire no problem. :cool:

OmegaGene · 30-11-2020 5:00pm

joujoujou wrote: »

One ZIP (individually wrapped) firelighter + 3-4 oak kindlings (chopped them myself from Monahan's logs), set logs on fire no problem. :cool:

check you out with the posh single wrapped zip

Blowheads · 04-12-2020 10:34pm

Where the best place to buy kiln dried hardwood in Galway/Tuam/Athenry?

vicwatson · 04-12-2020 10:42pm

Blowheads wrote: »

Where the best place to buy kiln dried hardwood in Galway/Tuam/Athenry?

You can buy it from MONAHANS, they deliver countrywide

aw · 05-12-2020 12:04am

Blowheads wrote: »

Where the best place to buy kiln dried hardwood in Galway/Tuam/Athenry?

Eamon at No Bother is great to deal with... You shouldn't have to pay for delivery and his selling point is that he will stack the fuel for you. Bring it to your house, and unload it from the crate neatly into your shed: https://nobother.ie/

Connolly Sawmills in Turloughmore have a good product and are good to deal with, although you might be waiting a while for delivery: http://www.connollysawmills.com/firewood-galway.html

Ecofuel are not the cheapest but have top quality product: https://www.ecofuel.ie/

soap1978 · 05-12-2020 2:24am

Is this good value?

mjp · 05-12-2020 10:12am

aw wrote: »

Eamon at No Bother is great to deal with... You shouldn't have to pay for delivery and his selling point is that he will stack the fuel for you. Bring it to your house, and unload it from the crate neatly into your shed: https://nobother.ie/

Connolly Sawmills in Turloughmore have a good product and are good to deal with, although you might be waiting a while for delivery: http://www.connollysawmills.com/firewood-galway.html

Ecofuel are not the cheapest but have top quality product: https://www.ecofuel.ie/

Get mine from connolly's in turloughmore and by far the cheapest of the options mentioned above. Normally collect it from there in a small van and will get 1 cubic metre crate in it.

€130 for ash or else they have red deal(softwood) for €80. Mixed up the red deal in ash there during the week and good heat off it eventhough it doesn't last as long as the ash.

tabby aspreme · 05-12-2020 10:44am

soap1978 wrote: »

Is this good value?

It's costing €170-200 / cubic metre, depending on whether the crate dimensions given, are internal or external.

soap1978 · 05-12-2020 10:52am

tabby aspreme wrote: »

It's costing €170-200 / cubic metre, depending on whether the crate dimensions given, are internal or external.

not a great deal then? would it fill a 8 x 4 trailer no sides on it

chris_ie · 05-12-2020 11:45am

Just over three weeks in with our first batch of wood. Bought the €175 jumbo bag from Surefire. So much cleaner than coal in the house. Great in that regard so far. Cleaner in the shed too! But we’ve flown through the bag, probably get another 3 days out of it. So it’s working out more expensive but to be honest still don’t reckon we’d go back to coal.

tabby aspreme · 05-12-2020 12:14pm

soap1978 wrote: »

not a great deal then? would it fill a 8 x 4 trailer no sides on it

You would need 18-20 inch sides on the trailer

snor · 05-12-2020 12:29pm

Any good deals in Dublin area - Southside. Need individual bags as limited storage space. Many thanks.

Muahahaha · 05-12-2020 3:41pm

soap1978 wrote: »

Is this good value?

It is 1.6m3 of ash for 295 so yeah it is decent value provided its dry to below 20%

chris_ie wrote: »

Just over three weeks in with our first batch of wood. Bought the €175 jumbo bag from Surefire. So much cleaner than coal in the house. Great in that regard so far. Cleaner in the shed too! But we’ve flown through the bag, probably get another 3 days out of it. So it’s working out more expensive but to be honest still don’t reckon we’d go back to coal.

yeah between less dust in the house and less ash to clean up burning wood is definitely preferable. But if burning it every night of the week the costs would soon stack up.How many fires a week are you typically burning? If its a lot I think it makes sense to buy in bigger bulk like trailer loads as the price goes down with bigger quantities.

chris_ie · 05-12-2020 6:55pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah between less dust in the house and less ash to clean up burning wood is definitely preferable. But if burning it every night of the week the costs would soon stack up.How many fires a week are you typically burning? If its a lot I think it makes sense to buy in bigger bulk like trailer loads as the price goes down with bigger quantities.

Yeah at the minute it’s a fire every day. Will look into get a bigger bulk load. Surefire was handy cos I know now the driver has no problems getting up the driveway to the shed. Will check out a few other places. Wondering if the likes of surefire would give a discount if ordering multiples of the super jumbo bags for example.

Muahahaha · 05-12-2020 7:14pm

Yeah at a fire a day you would fly through it. I would definitely be asking Surefirewood or any other supplier for a discount if ordering multiple bags. Even though they say free delivery ultimately the cost of it is in each bag so if they're delivering several bags in one drop you'd expect some money off.

john_doe. · 13-12-2020 3:13pm

Was wondering are these any good and which is the best value. All kiln dried and in Cork.

€199
Hand Stacked Ash Hardwood. Comes In A Crate. 450kg. Crate dimensions: 1.2M (H) x 1.15M (W) x 0.85M (D)

€199
Premium Oak Log 25cm Crate 1m (430KG)
Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97 m. Volume of Firewood 0.80m

€199
Kiln Dried Beech Logs 430kg.Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97M. Volume of Firewood 0.80M

€220
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Birch Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Ash Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Oak Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

limnam · 13-12-2020 3:16pm

john_doe. wrote: »

Was wondering are these any good and which is the best value. All kiln dried and in Cork.

€199
Hand Stacked Ash Hardwood. Comes In A Crate. 450kg. Crate dimensions: 1.2M (H) x 1.15M (W) x 0.85M (D)

€199
Premium Oak Log 25cm Crate 1m (430KG)
Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97 m. Volume of Firewood 0.80m

€199
Kiln Dried Beech Logs 430kg.Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97M. Volume of Firewood 0.80M

€220
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Birch Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Ash Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Oak Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

Can you also mention shop name/URL etc

masterboy123 · 13-12-2020 7:03pm

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Ash Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

I would go with this

john_doe. wrote: »

Was wondering are these any good and which is the best value. All kiln dried and in Cork.

€199
Hand Stacked Ash Hardwood. Comes In A Crate. 450kg. Crate dimensions: 1.2M (H) x 1.15M (W) x 0.85M (D)

€199
Premium Oak Log 25cm Crate 1m (430KG)
Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97 m. Volume of Firewood 0.80m

€199
Kiln Dried Beech Logs 430kg.Pallet Dimensions, 110 x 80 x 100cm. Pallet size 0.97M. Volume of Firewood 0.80M

€220
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Birch Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Ash Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

€230
1.2 Cubic Metre Crate of Kiln Dried Oak Firewood Logs. H 49" x B 34" x W 46"

OmegaGene · 13-12-2020 7:06pm

This is where I got the crate of oak in cork for €230 inc delivery

https://www.coughlanfuels.com/kiln-dried-logs.html

deadduck · 15-12-2020 12:06am

savemejebus wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003CSNV2Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Finally got the moisture meter (and subsequently a 9v battery to go with it) and sure enough, any decent sized logs are reading upwards of 23-24%, and as previous poster mentioned, you can probably add 5% to that for the log centre. Smaller logs are less than 20%.

A good middle ground I’ve found so far is to get a decent fire going with the supertherm, and then throw a decent sized log or 2 on. Even with little to no air from the top or bottom, the logs catch fairly handy and burn goodo.

The supertherm is savage stuff, if I throw a decent amount on the heat out of the stove is fantastic. Certainly allayed any fears I had on insert stoves not being able to throw out decent heat!

Stihl waters · 15-12-2020 12:11am

How long is a cubic metre of hardwood lasting anyone that's buying it and how many bags of coal would ye burn with it

limnam · 15-12-2020 6:02am

Stihl waters wrote: »

How long is a cubic metre of hardwood lasting anyone that's buying it and how many bags of coal would ye burn with it

I have the stove going all day and night. Lasts about 7 weeks. No coal.

worlds goodest teecher · 15-12-2020 9:33pm

Anyone know of any deals on offer north sligo/south Donegal?

vicwatson · 16-12-2020 1:38am

worlds goodest teecher wrote: »

Anyone know of any deals on offer north sligo/south Donegal?

Monahans ship countrywide free

Muahahaha · 16-12-2020 1:29pm

worlds goodest teecher wrote: »

Anyone know of any deals on offer north sligo/south Donegal?

Surefirewood in Fermanagh will also deliver to you. I bought from Monahans and am very happy with the quality of wood (oak).

As for offers not really, they all seem to be within 10 or 20 euro of each other for a crate of hardwood. The more buik you buy the cheaper it is per cubic metre so if you have the storage space and are confident of the quality it makes sense to buy as much as you can in one go.

Check out fuel merchants in your local area, they may be slightly cheaper than those delivering nationwide. But remember quality is important, there no point ending up with a big load of poor burning wood and then being stuck with it for the next few months. That way lies smokey fires with little heat and a lot of frustration.

Markcheese · 06-01-2021 2:41pm

I just bought some pressed oak "logs" in the co-op (bought the wrong ones ) ,and surprisingly I'm impressed , they chucked out loads of heat , had a really nice flame and were cheap as chips, 5 packs for 20 euro ,( 5x10kg )
They do swell up a bit but I was putting in half logs sideways into the stove so no problem ,

Glebee · 06-01-2021 5:46pm

No comparison between the Thorntons Ecoblaze Exta Wood briquettes versus the Bord Na Mona Firewood Eco Logs. Thorntons so much better for burn time and heat production. Not sure on cost as I got the Bord Na Mona ones for a gift.

Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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