Meghan and Harry Interview (Mod Warning in First Post)

meeeeh · 08-03-2021 12:17pm

LillySV wrote: »

Are you in a relationship? Feel for that person if this is a representation of how you handle or process things you don’t like....

Thanks for your concern.

Sir_Name · 08-03-2021 12:17pm

BettyS wrote: »

Equality or not, why didn’t he receive the title? Look at how Andrew’s daughters all received the title. It may seem trivial, but they are wondering why.

Nobody will come out well from this. It is sad to see a family so broken.

That said, no family is worth suicide!

Honestly, why do people take be it papers or their words as fact. A simple verification check instead of taking anything as gospel would dispel you from repeating nonsense.

Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.

At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild. So not entitled... and nothing to do with equality :rolleyes:

MarshmallowPop · 08-03-2021 12:18pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’d say other “minor” members of the royal family the likes of princess anne etc who have kept their head down over the years and got on with the boring public service work must be very annoyed with Meghan and Harry

Princess Anne is no Saint either.

I'm also sure that she will find some comfort in her multi million pound Equestrian Centre paid for by yours truly (the British hardworking taxpayer).

08-03-2021 12:20pm

extra gravy wrote: »

Fair play to her for talking about her mental health problems, that will resonate with a lot of people. Not an easy thing to do and will of course be dismissed as attention seeking by the usual gob****es here.

10 years ago it would maybe have been considered brave to talk about mental health problems.

Nowadays it's de rigeur for celebs to talk about it.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 12:22pm

Sir_Name wrote: »

Honestly, why do people take be it papers or their words as fact. A simple verification check instead of taking anything as gospel would dispel you from repeating nonsense.

Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.

At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild. So not entitled... and nothing to do with equality :rolleyes:

I am sure there are protocols. But Jesus, the whole thing is utterly archaic!

08-03-2021 12:22pm

All I can think of when I see the clips is that she's an actress.

How much of her is genuine and how much of her is a "role" she is playing. She is someone who is able to pretend to be someone else. A useful skill in situations like this.

Sir_Name · 08-03-2021 12:24pm

BettyS wrote: »

I am sure there are protocols. But Jesus, the whole thing is utterly archaic!

Utterly archaic maybe but that wasn't your point...

08-03-2021 12:28pm

Little interest in the interview or Meghan Markle.

But don't understand the scepticism about what she says. The Queen's husband can't stop making racist comments, her son is accused of sex with underage girls...why is anyone annoyed with Markle's comments. How could she possibly harm their reputation?

BettyS · 08-03-2021 12:28pm

Sir_Name wrote: »

Utterly archaic maybe but that wasn't your point...

They seriously need to modernise the institution.

xzanti · 08-03-2021 12:31pm

meeeeh wrote: »

I couldn't care less who is right or wrong in royal saga. But this kind of reply and post you quoted is something posted by people who big themselves up by downgrading others. Maybe some intelligent company would benefit in your case too.

LillySV wrote: »

Who did I downgrade? How can you conclude that I’m not intelligent ? If you don’t like something someone says, do you automatically lash out or try insult someone? Are you in a relationship? Feel for that person if this is a representation of how you handle or process things you don’t like....

MOD: Keep it civil please folks.

Deeec · 08-03-2021 12:32pm

Sadly I think this is another doomed royal marriage. I like Harry and feel sorry for him. Meghan I think is calling all the shots and he is just following along. It sounds like they want nothing to do with the Royal family but still want all the benefits attached to being a member of the Royal family which is a complete contradiction. I would have more respect for them if they kept quiet and lived a normal life which is what they wanted but instead Meghan is using the media at every opportunity ( for money and keeping her name out there ).

Icsics · 08-03-2021 12:33pm

Interesting no questions at all about her father or estranged family. He’s really thrown his family under the bus

08-03-2021 12:34pm

banie01 wrote: »

Also the entire someone said what colour is the baby going to be bit?
Why raise that, if you are not going to tell the whole story?
Would be as offensive to ask if the baby was going to be ginger?
Or worse yet, biracial and ginger?

My son is biracial. I'm white and his mam is from SE Asia. When we were expecting him, we sometimes wondered aloud what features he'd get from each of us. It's just part of expecting a baby - the excitement of wondering what the little bundle will be like.

There need not be any badness in the comment; if you're woke with a victim complex however, the tendency is to take great umbrage at every remark and revel in how righteous you deem yourself to be.

paw patrol · 08-03-2021 12:35pm

extra gravy wrote: »

Fair play to her for talking about her mental health problems, that will resonate with a lot of people. Not an easy thing to do and will of course be dismissed as attention seeking by the usual gob****es here.

the mental health card and add that to the vague racism claims.
Twitter oppression Level : Full House.

If she played the woman card she'd be hitting Straight Flush territory
Lob in the LGBT card and she'd have the Twitter God Tier Oppression level :Royal Flush

xzanti · 08-03-2021 12:38pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

tell ye one thing..she's packed on the weight. is that a double chin an all now?

She's pregnant.

Also, her weight is completely irrelevant.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 12:43pm

Icsics wrote: »

Interesting no questions at all about her father or estranged family. He’s really thrown his family under the bus

I wonder will the royal family respond? Or just do their usual ‘say nothing’

08-03-2021 12:43pm

It's all a very sad sight playing out before us. I think there are a lot of damaged people on all sides. By damaged, I mean harbouring unresolved psychological traumas from various past events in their lives. The result is what we are seeing today and a bloodthirsty press preying on these fragilities and stoking the fire.

I think Harry is definitely a very vulnerable human. That child who walked behind his mother's coffin is still there.

The monarchy will protect the monarchy, but they are taking the wrong approach here and it will cost them dearly in how they are perceived by the new generation of the public when the Queen passes.

Turbohymac · 08-03-2021 12:45pm

Wouldn't be interested at all in the royal family or any of that now out of date royalty crap ..but I suppose Meghan and harry are now actually coming to realize that money actually doesn't grow on trees..
It would be interesting to know how much there getting paid directly and indirectly for appearing on oprah..
On a positive it's good to see Meghan and harry moving on with their lives outside of Windsor and all the BS that goes with it..let alone the staggering high cost to the British taxpayers

meeeeh · 08-03-2021 12:50pm

Turbohymac wrote: »

Wouldn't be interested at all in the royal family or any of that now out of date royalty crap ..but I suppose Meghan and harry are now actually coming to realize that money actually doesn't grow on trees..
It would be interesting to know how much there getting paid directly and indirectly for appearing on oprah..
On a positive it's good to see Meghan and harry moving on with their lives outside of Windsor and all the BS that goes with it..let alone the staggering high cost to the British taxpayers

She is beautiful American biracial Princess. Their ability to make money is significant. I don't think they needed to do the interview I think they wanted to do the interview.

Anyway the most entertaining part of this is British media meltdown. BoJo could probably increase taxes for 50% and it would end up somewhere on page 6.

Leroy42 · 08-03-2021 12:52pm

Deeec wrote: »

Sadly I think this is another doomed royal marriage. I like Harry and feel sorry for him. Meghan I think is calling all the shots and he is just following along. It sounds like they want nothing to do with the Royal family but still want all the benefits attached to being a member of the Royal family which is a complete contradiction. I would have more respect for them if they kept quiet and lived a normal life which is what they wanted but instead Meghan is using the media at every opportunity ( for money and keeping her name out there ).

So you just ignore all his talk about the media prior to meeting Meghan? You ignore what he says about his family not supporting him?

You just think that he was perfectly happy and then she got her claws into him and turned him?

Cienciano · 08-03-2021 12:52pm

Seems that the attitude in America is the Royal Family is a toxic institution. And in UK it's Meghan that's the problem.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 12:55pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Seems that the attitude in America is the Royal Family is a toxic institution. And in UK it's Meghan that's the problem.

I am surprised it hasn’t been made a partisan issue in the US yet

Coybig_ · 08-03-2021 12:59pm

Icsics wrote: »

Interesting no questions at all about her father or estranged family. He’s really thrown his family under the bus

Her and broken relationships seem to go hand in hand at this point.

After you manage to fall out with virtually your entire family, and your first marriage fails, then you manage to fall out with your new husbands family to the point where they effectively disown the pair of you - maybe it's time to start looking inward.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 1:00pm

meeeeh wrote: »

She is beautiful American biracial Princess. Their ability to make money is significant. I don't think they needed to do the interview I think they wanted to do the interview.

Anyway the most entertaining part of this is British media meltdown. BoJo could probably increase taxes for 50% and it would end up somewhere on page 6.

She is beautiful, yes. However, there are any number of talented and beautiful women in LA. The concept of the monarchy was just some obscure, quirky and British institution.

They were relatively unknown. This will generate significant exposure and interest. This in turn will generate more opportunities. Opportunities will generate revenue. They have put themselves forward as the champion of the persecuted underdog.

You cannot pretend that there were no benefits to the interview for them?!? It was a carefully calculated move

08-03-2021 1:00pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Seems that the attitude in America is the Royal Family is a toxic institution. And in UK it's Meghan that's the problem.

I wonder how much of people's perceptions have been shaped by TV series like The Crown.

Kaybaykwah · 08-03-2021 1:01pm

BettyS wrote: »

Googling some of Prince Philip’s quotes from over the years is shocking

Stiff Upper Philip coming soon to a cemetary near you.

08-03-2021 1:02pm

Coybig_ wrote: »

Her and broken relationships seem to go hand in hand at this point.

After you manage to fall out with virtually your entire family, and your first marriage fails, then you manage to fall out with your new husbands family to the point where they effectively disown the pair of you - maybe it's time to start looking inward.

Objectively speaking, her family have shown themselves as fairly disfunctional.

Same thing has probably led to some of the hostilities in the new husbands family. "Not one of us" etc.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 1:03pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wonder how much of people's perceptions have been shaped by TV series like The Crown.

The book “And What Do You Do” came out recently. It is pretty shocking stuff. Does not paint the monarchy in a good light at all. I was always surprised that it wasn’t peddled by the media

Kaybaykwah · 08-03-2021 1:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder how much of people's perceptions have been shaped by TV series like The Crown.

Why d'ya axe?

They bin lovin' and hatin' Chump fer 4 years.

UsBus · 08-03-2021 1:07pm

Am behind on my Netflix, but have been watching Suits from the start the last while. Every now and then I'd say Christ, Harry the poor fecker, while watching MM. The other half would tell me, she's only playing a part. To which i'd reply, she's not that good of an actor.
Whatever about not wanting to be part of the Royal circus and all that entails is perfectly understandable. Harry has really walked himself to the edge of the cliff with this one.
Can see him on his todd in a few years, trying to patch up with his family.

As someone else pointed out, how naïve was she to believe she could go from her privileged modern lifestyle as an actor in the US and settle into the goldfish bowl of the Royal family..?
Harry probably didn't let her know how it would be for fear of her changing her mind.

08-03-2021 1:08pm

I’d like to know what the Archbishop makes of the secret wedding.

Anniepowaaa · 08-03-2021 1:10pm

when you go on tv for a big wad of cash you have no credibility in my eyes

meeeeh · 08-03-2021 1:10pm

BettyS wrote: »

You cannot pretend that there were no benefits to the interview for them?!? It was a carefully calculated move

I didn't say that. I think they were so intent on settling the scores they would do it even if there was no financial benefit. It's way more personal than just making money.

As for their monetary value, this is supposed to be watched by more people than Super Bowl, it tells you all about their ability to make money. They would be fine flogging some vegan coffees and Netflix stuff.

Be right back · 08-03-2021 1:10pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’d like to know what the Archbishop makes of the secret wedding.

Why would they have had to get married before their church wedding?

BettyS · 08-03-2021 1:14pm

meeeeh wrote: »

I didn't say that. I think they were so intent on settling the scores they would do it even if there was no financial benefit. It's way more personal than just making money.

As for their monetary value, this is supposed to be watched by more people than Super Bowl, it tells you all about their ability to make money. They would be fine flogging some vegan coffees and Netflix stuff.

Their ability to draw viewers was not based on themselves as people. It was based on them breaking the tradition of silence about the inner-workings of the monarchy. People were anticipating a spilling of salacious gossip about the monarchy.

By your comment, if they went on Oprah to discuss general and impersonal topics, they would have had the same viewing! I don’t think so!

People just wanted the dirt!

Itssoeasy · 08-03-2021 1:14pm

I read more of the comments from the interview and some of the quotes don’t help them. Why is Harry surprised that he’s been cut off financially(I assume this is the civil list money) when he’s no longer a working member of the royal family. Also, the comment about Archie not being a Prince is a sign they don’t know the rules(stupid as they may be) that he isn’t by birth entitled to one. Neither were Williams kids until it was changed. So it’s got nothing to do with race or anything else it’s one of the many weird rules that make up the bizarre institution that is the British royal family. The person who made the comment about skin colour like I said this morning should’ve been named. I agree it would be very harmful for that person but by not saying who it is leaves it open.

Snickers Man · 08-03-2021 1:18pm

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banie01 · 08-03-2021 1:19pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’d like to know what the Archbishop makes of the secret wedding.

I tweeted him to ask.
Nicely of course.

The whole we were already married when we got married thing is frankly a little out there!
It's so easily refutable by the simple fact there was just 3 of them.
A wedding requires at least 5 including 2 witnesses.

They may have had a run through, exchanged meaningful vows or something.
But!
Being so adamant that they were married in secret, prior to the state spunking £30odd million on a then meaningless ceremony?

It won't help win friends or influence people.
Now imagine what happens when the claim is refuted?
Any credibility afforded the rest of the claims has to be reconsidered too IMO.

08-03-2021 1:20pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

Didn't watch this. No interest.
After all, if I want to watch a wealthy successful African American bitching on TV about their first world problems, I'll just watch the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.

Yet here you are... showing an interest.

BettyS · 08-03-2021 1:25pm

Reese Silly Flick wrote: »

Yet here you are... showing an interest.

It beats the misery of Brexit and COVID. The stakes are zero for us!

retro:electro · 08-03-2021 1:25pm

The whole thing is just completely tacky. Did we really need to know any of this information? Just another PR campaign by the two of them to ensure Meghan stays firmly positioned as victim #1 no matter what. A lot of dangling carrots without any actual information to form any proper conclusions and a lot said without context. “Kate did something but she owned it, sent me flowers and apologised”. Well what did she do? Saying something like that is completely pointless and without actually telling us what it is she did, it allows people to draw all sorts of ridiculous conclusions. Did she stab you in the face with a stiletto on purpose or was it something as innocuous as she deleted something you had recorded off Sky. Without details, this shlt is meaningless.

Again, someone is meant to have said something about Archie like “Will he be dark” sounds pretty nefarious when framed in a way that implies racial undertones but it could have been something as innocent as “I wonder what he will look like”.. and again, not saying WHO said it just leaves the whole palace open to racist accusations.
I just don’t understand the pair of them. You couldn’t pay me to involve myself in that institution and it’s no secret that it has its problems, but equally a pair of self righteous pontificating whingebags I’ve never come across. If Meghan was so concerned about not being able to defend herself while part of the firm and feeling trapped, does she not feel for Kate who she has just thrown under the bus so publicly with a vague accusation of making her cry, I doubt Kate has the ability to counteract or clarify that. I just wish they’d piss off now. The rest of the interview sounds like a load of paranoid drivel out of the two of them and just pure speculation on why they believe people acted like they did towards them. Nothing concrete. The whole interview seemed to have been based on that one step forward two steps back, say things without saying anything kind of notion. Absolutely pointless but perfect if your only intention was to stir the pot.

I’m sick of seeing the pair of them every bloody day now crying about something else. You wanted privacy, now go live in peace and have it. For someone who suffered a miscarriage last year you’d think Meghan would want to be minding herself now and not stirring up a worldwide ****storm, and all for what? Whatever about her, she can move on from this. Harry has destroyed every meaningful relationship with his family with this tacky display of victim hood that absolutely nobody needed to see. And the most pathetic thing a near 40 year old man whinging about being cut off financially from his family. They’re so out of touch it’s unreal.

Itssoeasy · 08-03-2021 1:28pm

banie01 wrote: »

I tweeted him to ask.
Nicely of course.

The whole we were already married when we got married thing is frankly a little out there!
It's so easily refutable by the simple fact there was just 3 of them.
A wedding requires at least 5 including 2 witnesses.

They may have had a run through, exchanged meaningful vows or something.
But!
Being so adamant that they were married in secret, prior to the state spunking £30odd million on a then meaningless ceremony?

It won't help win friends or influence people.
Now imagine what happens when the claim is refuted?
Any credibility afforded the rest of the claims has to be reconsidered too IMO.

They got married prior to the actual day ? That’s new but also as you say a wedding requires five people even in Vegas. It’s easily provable because the Archbishops office could easily disprove it.

The old chestnut of how that money could have been spent will no doubt come up because 30 million notes could be spent elsewhere.

meeeeh · 08-03-2021 1:28pm

BettyS wrote: »

Their ability to draw viewers was not based on themselves as people. It was based on them breaking the tradition of silence about the inner-workings of the monarchy. People were anticipating a spilling of salacious gossip about the monarchy.

By your comment, if they went on Oprah to discuss general and impersonal topics, they would have had the same viewing! I don’t think so!

People just wanted the dirt!

They have 100 million dollar production deal with Netflix and 30 million pound deal with Spotify (according to Google). They were all done before CBS Oprah interview which I don't think they are paid for. They will have another child which will just increase their marketability. Don't underestimate the ability of Americans to buy nonsense their princess sells them.

Cienciano · 08-03-2021 1:34pm

Anniepowaaa wrote: »

when you go on tv for a big wad of cash you have no credibility in my eyes

They weren't paid for it. They did it to get their side of the story out. Apparently that's one of the first things covered in the interview.

"Before we get in to it, I just want to make it clear to everybody that even though we’re neighbors … that there has not been an agreement, you don’t know what I’m going to ask, and there is no subject that’s off-limits and you are not getting paid for this interview."

Meghan responded: "All of that is correct."

BettyS · 08-03-2021 1:34pm

meeeeh wrote: »

They have 100 million dollar production deal with Netflix and 30 million pound deal with Spotify (according to Google). They were all done before CBS Oprah interview which I don't think they are paid for. They will have another child which will just increase their marketability. Don't underestimate the ability of Americans to buy nonsense their princess sells them.

“Fame is a fickle food, upon a shifting plate.”

Their novelty will wear off very quickly!

Gael23 · 08-03-2021 1:36pm

Well the **** has well and truly hit the fan

banie01 · 08-03-2021 1:37pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

They got married prior to the actual day ? That’s new but also as you say a wedding requires five people even in Vegas. It’s easily provable because the Archbishops office could easily disprove it.

That was the claim made during the interview, I'm looking forward to seeing a statement from the Archbishop's office or a copy of the wedding cert TBH.

Be right back · 08-03-2021 1:39pm

Gael23 wrote: »

Well the **** has well and truly hit the fan

Can imagine that there's steam coming out of William's ears this morning.

BettePorter · 08-03-2021 1:40pm

Alluding to someone in the family making a racist comment about 'what if the baby is dark' yet refusing to mention the context or name who said it is up there with Trump and his 'Many People say' goto response.

Why bring it up if you're not going to name them! If they said it and you truly believe it was racially intended...shame them ! Otherwise you're just creating the clickbait you yourself claim to be victim of !

Itssoeasy · 08-03-2021 1:40pm

banie01 wrote: »

That was the claim made during the interview, I'm looking forward to seeing a statement from the Archbishop's office or a copy of the wedding cert TBH.

Right. Big claim and if the statement from the Archbishop’s office is along the lines of “no such event took place” or something like that then that’s an own goal.

Meghan and Harry Interview (Mod Warning in First Post)

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