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    #92
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    heebusjeebus wrote: »
    Eh? How does that work?

    Like any other digital purchase on PSN but Sony bought Gaikai so will try to get streaming to work even though it doesn't suit any country without (a)Top quality & (b) Unlimited broadband


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    #93
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    ERG89 wrote: »
    Like any other digital purchase on PSN but Sony bought Gaikai so will try to get streaming to work even though it doesn't suit any country without (a)Top quality & (b) Unlimited broadband

    Ya but that would require emulation software to run the PS3 games.
    The PS4 does not have the grunt to do it.


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    #94
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,231 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    There's plenty of PS3 games on the Now service so it can't be that much of an issue.

    That would be streaming though, not playing directly from a PS4, so it's not using the PS4 architecture to actually play the game.

    I did read that there may be some trouble with PS3 games alright. Think I read emulators generally need 10 times more power than the original source or something. Apparently it's fairly difficult to emulate the PS3 architecture.

    Maybe the option will only be there for PS4 games on PS Now.


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    #95
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Penn wrote: »
    That would be streaming though, not playing directly from a PS4, so it's not using the PS4 architecture to actually play the game.

    I did read that there may be some trouble with PS3 games alright. Think I read emulators generally need 10 times more power than the original source or something. Apparently it's fairly difficult to emulate the PS3 architecture.

    Maybe the option will only be there for PS4 games on PS Now.

    I read a bit more in the meantime and my answer does come across a tad slow… If they are looking at a download option to the service though, maybe they've come up with a different form of emulation, who knows.


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    #96
    Penn
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    kunst nugget wrote: »
    I read a bit more in the meantime and my answer does across a tad slow… If they are looking at a download option to the service though, maybe they've come up with a different form of emulation, who knows.

    Well that's it, if anyone knows how to best break down the architecture of the PS3 and be able to emulate it on a PS4, it's Sony. Maybe they have found a way to do it. I think I did read that the PS4 architecture actually could be capable of doing it, but it's take time and money on Sony's part to figure it out. Maybe now they have, hence the resurgence of interest in PS Now in recent months (as I'd barely heard it mentioned in the past year or two until a recent update bumped it back onto my PS menu)


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    #97
    OhHiMark
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    Penn wrote: »
    Well that's it, if anyone knows how to best break down the architecture of the PS3 and be able to emulate it on a PS4, it's Sony. Maybe they have found a way to do it. I think I did read that the PS4 architecture actually could be capable of doing it, but it's take time and money on Sony's part to figure it out. Maybe now they have, hence the resurgence of interest in PS Now in recent months (as I'd barely heard it mentioned in the past year or two until a recent update bumped it back onto my PS menu)

    That recent update was it being released in Ireland.


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    #98
    Penn
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    OhHiMark wrote: »
    That recent update was it being released in Ireland.

    Oh yeah. Forgot it was never actually out here before that. To be honest I've never had much interest in it at all as it is. If it let you download games, I'd give it a shot.


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    #99
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,231 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Almost confirmed downloads coming to PS Now, but for PS4 games only, at least for now.

    http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/06/19/source-playstation-now-will-offer-downloads-later-this-year

    I'll probably try it out for a few months, get some of the games on it and then use that to try streaming some PS3 games.


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    #100
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    As this change allows you to download a digital copy of a PS4 game from their sub library it's be nice if it went the other way as well, if you had a digital copy you'd get access to that game on Now.

    There'd be a cost involved for Sony but using Now, but it'd be another plus for buying from their store. Maybe have PS plus as a requirement.


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    #101
    Rossi IRL
    Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    I saw an article there today that downloading was now available.


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    #102
    Dravokivich
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    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    I saw an article there today that downloading was now available.

    Article I saw was on a US psn blog. Unsure if there's anything stated for us. I 2ould be interested in psn now, but my broadband wouldn't be up to scratch to stream. Allowing downloads would make me reconsider it.


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    #103
    Racket
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Article I saw was on a US psn blog. Unsure if there's anything stated for us. I 2ould be interested in psn now, but my broadband wouldn't be up to scratch to stream. Allowing downloads would make me reconsider it.

    The first article I read it in said it was unconfirmed as to when it was coming to Europe, but when I went to PS Now straight afterwards, I was given a splash for the download feature, then downloaded a game and played it just fine. Haven't seen anyone else in Europe say it's working for them, but I'd find it strange to find myself an anomaly for having access to it in these parts by myself.


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    #104
    Doodah7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    I guess this was the reason that firmware 6.0 was so large with no obvious benefit...


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    #105
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,231 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Racket wrote: »
    The first article I read it in said it was unconfirmed as to when it was coming to Europe, but when I went to PS Now straight afterwards, I was given a splash for the download feature, then downloaded a game and played it just fine. Haven't seen anyone else in Europe say it's working for them, but I'd find it strange to find myself an anomaly for having access to it in these parts by myself.

    Link to European PS blog post, as tweeted by Playstation Europe https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2018/09/21/new-update-lets-you-download-your-favourite-ps-now-games-onto-your-ps4/#sf198085696
    This feature will be gradually rolled out to users in September, so if you don’t see the feature on your PS Now app today, make sure to check back again soon.

    *PS Now is available in UK, Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Ireland, Austria and Switzerland.

    So it's definitely coming, but being rolled out in stages so you might have just been one of the lucky ones in the first batch.

    Will definitely check the list of games on PSNow and might subscribe for a couple of months. Downloading games is a huge plus as even though I do have decent internet, the idea of streaming the games never fully appealed to me just in case there were issues.


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    #106
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    Need to bring it down to the €10 a month sweet spot, still too expensive in my opinion


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    #107
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    The design of this is terrible. Can they not just list new games added or downloadable games?


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    #108
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-09-playstation-now-brought-in-usd143-million-last-quarter-report

    Really surprised by this, EA and MS both do download rather than streaming which you'd think would have more appeal but Sony still raking in more.


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    #109
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Well there's far more PS4 users than XBOX.


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    #110
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Jerichoholic wrote: »
    Well there's far more PS4 users than XBOX.

    Don't need a PS4 for Now or any console.

    And EA is on PC and Xbox with both services being more traditional non streaming.


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    #111
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Yeah but, there's not a whole lot of people would know about EA origins outside of the bubble. PS Now is right there when you turn on the console so it makes sense the figures are that way.


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    #112
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    I'd love a game pass style service on ps4 but giving away your first party titles like that only makes sense if they are multiplayer & microtransaction/season pass focused. Single player titles are f**ked if you put them on that at launch. People would pay for a month instead of buying a Spiderman or God of War at retail.


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    #113
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    XBOX needed something to get going. Seems to be working so far though.


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    #114
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    ERG89 wrote: »
    I'd love a game pass style service on ps4 but giving away your first party titles like that only makes sense if they are multiplayer & microtransaction/season pass focused. Single player titles are f**ked if you put them on that at launch. People would pay for a month instead of buying a Spiderman or God of War at retail.

    Bought Sea of Thieves ( PC at a discount) at lanuch so didn't pay that much and it'll still be there.

    But that would be a game where they didn't have additional revenue but it does(or could) keep people on the platform for other games.


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    #115
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,231 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Gamepass seems to be a great system and the value is amazing compared to PS Now. I agree in a way that the benefit is more for multiplayer games where they can bring in loads of dlc or microtransactions. At the same time though, exclusives sell consoles, and that's been a big factor in why PS4 is still selling so well. If they did the same as MS and offer their single-player exclusives on PS Now, they'd quite possibly make more money through the PS Now subscriptions and console sales to offset the money lost on the games, and you could still have single-player dlc like Horizon's The Frozen Wilds, or Spider-Man's dlc story missions which would have to be purchased separately (without having to delve into microtransaction/lootbox stuff).

    With MS really pushing Gamepass as they are, even if they took the lead and outsold Sony at the start of next-gen forcing Sony to play catch-up, MS can't go back on what they've been doing with Gamepass, which means Xbox exclusive titles will be free on Gamepass with day one release for the foreseeable future. I think Sony are going to be forced into doing the same in the next year or two, otherwise it's going to start to harm them. But I think it'll be beneficial to Sony overall to do it. They need to make PS Now a proper counter to Gamepass, and with the known quality, first party studios and exclusive franchises they have, they could really sell PS Now hard.

    While I look forward to what the studios MS have done first-party deals with will offer, that's all very much an unknown quantity at the minute. Sony replicating the Gamepass model with PS Now for the end of the PS4 cycle and start of the PS5 cycle could cut the feet from under MS.


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    #116
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,483 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Anyone know if the trial 7 days was renewed on accounts? I had heard about it last year but not sure if it was for a limited time. For me, I already used the trial last year but if I click on ps now from the store, it says click for free trial. Still asks for credit card but I'm not sure if it will charge me for a month or give me 7 days allowing me to cancel when they are up?


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    #117
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Anyone know if the trial 7 days was renewed on accounts? I had heard about it last year but not sure if it was for a limited time. For me, I already used the trial last year but if I click on ps now from the store, it says click for free trial. Still asks for credit card but I'm not sure if it will charge me for a month or give me 7 days allowing me to cancel when they are up?

    Think it charges you man, I had trial before but tried to sign up on one of the recent free trials and when I got to checkout the full 14.99 (or whatever monthly sub is)was the amount to be paid.


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    #118
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,483 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The Specialist wrote: »
    Think it charges you man, I had trial before but tried to sign up on one of the recent free trials and when I got to checkout the full 14.99 (or whatever monthly sub is)was the amount to be paid.

    Ah alright sound man, will wait for there next offer to pop up.


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    #119
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,483 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Ha, just tried with my US account and worked perfectly, never asked for a credit card (I have no payment setup on that account). I thought you hadn't to have a payment option so the 7 days goes straight into a month with payment unless cancelled. Must work for any new PSN account so.


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    #120
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,808 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I finally have decent internet, so in your opinions, is this worth it yet? I agree, it's a bit steep at 14.99/month, but if the content was there it could be worth it. But doesn't allow you to download yet?


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    #121
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    I finally have decent internet, so in your opinions, is this worth it yet? I agree, it's a bit steep at 14.99/month, but if the content was there it could be worth it. But doesn't allow you to download yet?

    You can download certain games meaning you don't have to stream them. I think it's just PS4 games. Also if you sign up for the year it's €99.99 which works out at about €8.50 per month.


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