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Oozamine · 18-09-2014 10:34pm #1

Haven't seen a thread about poetry so i thought id make one!
So, what poets have yous covered in class and what ones would you like to come up?

Ive covered;
John Montague,
Thomas Hardy
eilean ni chuilleanain

is mise spartacus · 18-09-2014 10:44pm

Donne
Frost
that's all we've done

Jijsaw · 19-09-2014 6:58pm

We have done:
Dickinson
Plath
Frost
Montague
Yeats

I'm going studying the top 4 and perhaps Hardy. God damn you Plath coming up last year!

Peg14 · 19-09-2014 11:40pm

We've done Montague, Frost, Yeats and Dickinson. I like them all EXCEPT Montague, his poetry is the most pointless, boring stuff ever (imo) The only poem I do from him like is Killing the Pig cause it gives me lots to write about :P

d1234 · 20-09-2014 9:52am

We've done:

Frost
Yeats
Plath
Dickinson
Montague

Really liked Frost and ... fingers crossed!

is mise spartacus · 20-09-2014 10:22am

Wow I seem to have covered so little

Digital Solitude · 20-09-2014 8:26pm

We've done Montague and Donne...

One of my friends has a theory that Montague's "The Trout" is about him masturbating in the bath. I know.

xLisaBx · 20-09-2014 8:37pm

Lads ye know there's gonna be no plath. Might aswell just have 7 poets

is mise spartacus · 20-09-2014 9:00pm

xLisaBx wrote: »

Lads ye know there's gonna be no plath. Might aswell just have 7 poets

Most likely won't have Dickinson either

xLisaBx · 20-09-2014 9:14pm

is mise spartacus wrote: »

Most likely won't have Dickinson either

True story

Jijsaw · 20-09-2014 9:26pm

is mise spartacus wrote: »

Most likely won't have Dickinson either

That's what they said with Plath last year

Heaney is definitely coming up this year lads, I can feel it!

Nah Montague/Frost ftw!

is mise spartacus · 20-09-2014 9:33pm

Heaney isn't on our course.....

Is mise John · 20-09-2014 9:35pm

Ive covered : Plath, Donne, Yeats and Frost . Also did 2 poems of ni chuileanain. Dickson and Plath probably won't be up. Good chance Eilean ni chuilleanain will tho

is mise spartacus · 20-09-2014 9:37pm

And I hate her poetry with a passion
Hi is mise john I'm is mise Spartacus

Jijsaw · 20-09-2014 9:39pm

is mise spartacus wrote: »

Heaney isn't on our course.....

Whaa.... you mean I've been studying Heaney for no reason at all...bo*locks! :pac:

Haven't even done Ní Chuileanain and I hate her with a passion, horrible stuff!

is mise spartacus · 20-09-2014 9:44pm

Poets Prescribed for Higher Level:

DICKINSON, Emily (4)
DONNE, John (1)
FROST, Robert (2)
HARDY, Thomas
MONTAGUE, John
NÍ CHUILLEANÁIN, Eiléan
PLATH, Sylvia (3)
YEATS, William

I'll probably just do those 4 because I really don't like the rest

PeterJC! · 20-09-2014 10:06pm

So far we've done Dickinson, Yeats and Ní Chuilleanáin, I'd say that there's a fair chance of Ní Chuilleanáin coming up. Rue the day when there isn't a woman on the paper; plus she's Irish.

Oozamine · 21-09-2014 11:47am

My teachers convined that Montague and ENC will come up.
Dont know why people dont like Montague, i feel his poetry is the easiest to get your head around and straight forward enough quotes !

The Adversary · 21-09-2014 3:12pm

Eilean Ni Chuilleanain is well overdue.

Peg14 · 21-09-2014 4:40pm

Oozamine wrote: »

My teachers convined that Montague and ENC will come up.
Dont know why people dont like Montague, i feel his poetry is the easiest to get your head around and straight forward enough quotes !

My teacher too. And its not exactly that with Montague, i think because he is so straightforward, i find his poetry boring to talk about or like i just find myself summarising instead of find a meaning or whatever :P

Jijsaw · 22-09-2014 5:03pm

Montague ftw lads!
Such an easy poet

d1234 · 22-09-2014 6:32pm

How do ye guys learn poetry? The last thing I want to do is match up the wrong poet with the wrong poem!

Anonymagician · 22-09-2014 6:36pm

We've done Plath, Dickinson, Frost and Ní Chuilleanáin. We're going to do Montague and Yeats, I think.

Surely Plath or Dickinson wouldn't appear.

Digital Solitude · 22-09-2014 6:41pm

d1234 wrote: »

How do ye guys learn poetry? The last thing I want to do is match up the wrong poet with the wrong poem!

After a while Im sure you'll know which goes to who? Like you will be writing several full essays on each throughout the year

if832uspx4eogt · 22-09-2014 7:25pm

ENC is almost a dead set. She's Irish and a woman!

Hopefully John Donne doesn't show up, his poetry is a pile of ****.

Blue giant · 22-09-2014 7:27pm

I've done Frost, Plath and Dickinson so far. Favourite so far would have to be Frost. Will be doing Montague and Ní Chuileanán.

9de5q7tsr8u2im · 22-09-2014 7:59pm

cant remember what the teacher said so how many women + men poets do we have to do?

Blue giant · 22-09-2014 8:04pm

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

cant remember what the teacher said so how many women + men poets do we have to do?

There is 8 poets on the course and 4 come up on the paper. If you do 5 you're guaranteed at least one will come up. Every year there is always a female poet and Irish poet hence why ENC is well tipped to come up.

9de5q7tsr8u2im · 22-09-2014 8:07pm

Blue giant wrote: »

There is 8 poets on the course and 4 come up on the paper. If you do 5 you're guaranteed at least one will come up. Every year there is always a female poet and Irish poet hence why ENC is well tipped to come up.

thanks for your post, also i remember him mentioning about learning a number of poets and you'll be sorted type of thing, can you care to explain?

Blue giant · 22-09-2014 8:20pm

Bishop Gigantic Trout wrote: »

thanks for your post, also i remember him mentioning about learning a number of poets and you'll be sorted type of thing, can you care to explain?

I just did

LCK97 · 10-12-2014 7:38pm

we've done Plath, Dickinson, Frost and Chuilleanain, female and irish poet usually comes up so Chuilleanain seems like a safe enough bet:)

AulBiddy · 12-12-2014 9:00pm

We've done Frost, Plath, Dickinson, Montague, Ni Chuilleanain, Hardy, Yeats and Donne. Our teacher wants us to cover all the poets.. frankly I think its a waste of time

oktplz · 27-12-2014 4:33pm

Guys was just wondering how ye write your poetry essays?
Am looking for a high grade in English but I write my essays in the following format:
Intro
Poem 1
Poem 2
Poem 3
Poem 4...
Conclusion.
Is there a better way to write the essay that will maximise my grade, (I get A's with this style anyway but not sure if it's just our teachers preference)
Please help!

Frigating · 27-12-2014 5:11pm

oktplz wrote: »

Guys was just wondering how ye write your poetry essays?
Am looking for a high grade in English but I write my essays in the following format:
Intro
Poem 1
Poem 2
Poem 3
Poem 4...
Conclusion.
Is there a better way to write the essay that will maximise my grade, (I get A's with this style anyway but not sure if it's just our teachers preference)
Please help!

It depends on the question. For some I might do it by technique, or if the question has two sections (eg style and subject matter) I'll do it by that. For others I do it by poem. I personally worry about repeating myself constantly if I only have a bit to say on how a technique is used or on a poem, but the way you structure your essay is fine. I think doing it by poem is easiest, but it can depend on the poet.

oktplz · 27-12-2014 5:17pm

Thank you so much, omg i was so worried that I was doing it wrong

I'm the same and also scared of not going into enough depth if I do it the other way, thanks so much for the reply, I think for the most part I'll stick to poem by poem unless it's an absolute necessary to go the other way...

d1234 · 27-12-2014 5:31pm

Agree with ye on the subject of type of question asked. However, it's now harm to give a brief referral to one of the other poems studied e.g. if you are discussing the poem The Locket by Montague give a little cut as to how it differs to The Cage. The main thing to remember about poetry is personal reflection! But otherwise that strategy is good

oktplz · 05-01-2015 11:34pm

Thanks d1234, you've really cleared things up for me

While we've here guys, what's your predictions for the Othello question? :P

cookiecutter99 · 26-01-2015 10:06pm

kcull wrote: »

English
- literary genre for comparative (been yonks)

I havent done literary genre but hope gvvp doesnt come up and instead theme comes up

Katie97123 · 26-01-2015 10:47pm

Do you not think Ni chuilleanain will come up? And were the papers not made in like November before Charlie Hebdo?

cookiecutter99 · 27-01-2015 7:46am

Katie97123 wrote: »

Do you not think Ni chuilleanain will come up? And were the papers not made in like November before Charlie Hebdo?

Our english class had not done Ni chuilleanain and i might be wrong but werent the papers finalised 1st/2nd week of january?

Katie97123 · 27-01-2015 9:15am

Ok! And we were told November, but you're probs right! Terrorism could probably come up anyway regardless of Charlie Hebdo I'd say!

DarraghF197 · 28-01-2015 7:27pm

Does anyone know what poets are coming up in 2016? Since it's Ni Chuileanain's first year, she might instead make an appearance on the 2016 one. I'd love it if Plath or Dickinson come up, the other poets we've done are a bit of a snooze sometimes.

DarraghF197 · 28-01-2015 7:37pm

Anonymagician wrote: »

Plath, Dickinson and Yeats came up last year. It was Plath's second year in a row. Obviously nothing can be ruled out completely but if you were going to leave poets out, it'd be those. Ní Chuilleanáin is a seemingly safe bet but I also feel like Montague and Frost would be there.

Oh, I did not realise that Plath cane up two years in a row! They won't play the same trick twice on a female poet in successive years so. Looks like they probably won't appear because of that. Maybe they might decide not to have that system of one poet per category.. Especially since a load of people studied the exact same poet because he was the only one in his category last year. I just don't think she'll come up, but I think it's wishful thinking lol thanks

BoyceLeaving15 · 29-01-2015 12:15am

hafsa_28 wrote: »

I havent done literary genre but hope gvvp doesnt come up and instead theme comes up

Yeah we're studying Theme/Issue and Lit Genre and I find theme so much easier to write on. Basically retelling the story by referencing the scenes that the theme is seen in. Fingers crossed.

kamiljkamil · 23-03-2015 12:31am

I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam

DarraghF197 · 23-03-2015 8:38am

kamiljkamil wrote: »

I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam

Too risky! Both could easily not come up. Maybe if you really wanted to do only two poets you could do Montague and Yeats or Nu Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. Either way, still very risky.

kamiljkamil · 23-03-2015 6:25pm

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Too risky! Both could easily not come up. Maybe if you really wanted to do only two poets you could do Montague and Yeats or Nu Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. Either way, still very risky.

Yeah I suppose you are right. I mean I have 6 poets studied very well but would like to focus on those 2 real well just before the exam 😄

DarraghF197 · 23-03-2015 7:59pm

kamiljkamil wrote: »

Yeah I suppose you are right. I mean I have 6 poets studied very well but would like to focus on those 2 real well just before the exam ðŸ˜„

Oh yeah I Thought you were going all out on those two! I'll probably specialise in one or Two as well, and have five studied.

I Think it might be better if you were to specialise in two similar poets, like, as I said, Montague and Yeats, or Donne, Frost and Hardy or Dickinson and Ni Chuilleanáin. Hardy and Ni Chuilleanáin don't link and both can come up the same time and also both could not come up.

But, if they're your favourite, then go for it, but maybe do another one alongside. I'll be doing Plath just because she's interesting even though she has such a low chance of coming up.

cookiecutter99 · 23-03-2015 9:07pm

kamiljkamil wrote: »

I'm hoping for :Eileann Ni Chilleanain & Thomas Hardy
Hardy hasn't appeared in a while and Eilenn first time
Would think it's a safe bet learning off these 2 really well before the exam

Our techer told us Thomas Hardy has a high chance as he wasnt on the course since the last 2/3 years and he is not on the course for another 2 year after us.Also john Montague has a very high chance...but only learning 2 poets is very risky as people predicted Seamus Heaney to come up in the poetry section in 2014 but he came up in the reading comprehensation

kamiljkamil · 24-03-2015 1:12am

hafsa_28 wrote: »

Our techer told us Thomas Hardy has a high chance as he wasnt on the course since the last 2/3 years and he is not on the course for another 2 year after us.Also john Montague has a very high chance...but only learning 2 poets is very risky as people predicted Seamus Heaney to come up in the poetry section in 2014 but he came up in the reading comprehensation

Oh yeah definitely learning just two is basically suicide 😃 But yeah what you are saying is true I really hope for either Chuilleanain,Hardy or Donne to appear as I know them inside out and love their poetry
But then again even looking at past papers you can always be wrong even if everything points that this poet is coming up for definite

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