Lord Mayor of Dublin harassed at her home by protesters

22-01-2021 10:34am

Misleading headline is misleading.

riffmongous · 22-01-2021 10:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

It's clear what you WANT the agenda to be.

Not everything can be the fault of racism, sexism, fascism, islamaphobia, homoohobia or whatever ism or phobia you want to level at people.

Why did the Barret's go after her then?

Effects · 22-01-2021 10:34am

What's the point in protesting against masks at the Mayor's residence anyway? What has the Mayor got to do with deciding or implementing that type of policy?

22-01-2021 10:35am

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Are you sure? maybe she didn't as lads like you would be saying "sure every interaction she has she calls racism, uses the race card" maybe she's avoiding that - who knows... not me or you anyway, as we weren't there...

Haha, so she didn't mention racism as racists don't allow her to use her her race because of racism.

So if there IS a mention of racism, it's because of racists, and if there ISNT a mention of racism, it's because of racists.

paw patrol · 22-01-2021 10:36am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and for the year she is lord mayor she is living there with her family. that makes it her home. To suggest otherwise is to downplay what happened.

are protests not allowed at the mansion house ?

Seems a bit odd to say that considering it's a official building for the lord mayor - it's not a private residence. Of course, the lord mayor lives there but there is a lot more that happens there in an official capacity

Is the aras out of bounds too for a protest?

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 10:37am

olestoepoke wrote: »

The article says 'her home' what did I miss here? And my post did not defend the actions of these people, so please read it again. ffs

you missed the bit where she is lord mayor of dublin and is currently living there with her family.

robodonkey · 22-01-2021 10:37am

Deleted User wrote: »

It's clear what you WANT the agenda to be.

Not everything can be the fault of racism, sexism, fascism, islamaphobia, homoohobia or whatever ism or phobia you want to level at people.

"The word 'racism' is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything - and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.'"

Thomas Sowell

olestoepoke · 22-01-2021 10:38am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you missed the bit where she is lord mayor of dublin and is currently living there with her family.

That's kind of the very definition of a home no?

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 10:38am

paw patrol wrote: »

are protests not allowed at the mansion house ?

where did I suggest that? can you quote the post where i suggested that?

paw patrol wrote: »

Seems a bit odd to say that considering it's a official building for the lord mayor - it's not a private residence. Of course, the lord mayor lives there but there is a lot more that happens there in an official capacity

Is the aras out of bounds too for a protest?

nothing odd about it. she lives there with her family. that makes it her home. a building can have multiple uses.

KevRossi · 22-01-2021 10:39am

For the years that's in it, it's her home. She also has a small kid, so that would make it more uncomfortable and dangerous. Can that crowd be trusted? I wouldn't trust them to not harm her or the kid if they got the chance. Would be very frightening and upsetting for the kid anyway.

And for the record, I don't like her too much, I find she's very abrasive, and a bit of a media attention seeker, and FWIW I've voted Green in most elections.

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 10:39am

olestoepoke wrote: »

That's kind of the very definition of a home no?

it is but you wouldn't think so with the number of posters saying it isn't her home.

mariaalice · 22-01-2021 10:40am

I can't believe there is anyone who believes it is not far-right in Ireland they might be a tiny insignificant noisy group but they are there.

suicide_circus · 22-01-2021 10:44am

Was it a violent protest?

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 10:47am

.anon. wrote: »

Not condoning it (oh, no siree!), just downplaying it. As long as she is holder of the position, it's her home. I strongly doubt that these people would have had any moral issue with turning up at the house that she owns either, if she was actually residing there.

As they did to Simon Harris (and I included in the link!)

biko · 22-01-2021 10:47am

suicide_circus wrote: »

Was it a violent protest?

No, but it was uncomfortable for Hazel (her words).

dennispenn · 22-01-2021 10:48am

suicide_circus wrote: »

Was it a violent protest?

somebody's feelings were hurt.

Invidious · 22-01-2021 10:53am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and for the year she is lord mayor she is living there with her family. that makes it her home. To suggest otherwise is to downplay what happened.

Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

dan1895 · 22-01-2021 10:54am

I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.

dan1895 · 22-01-2021 10:56am

Invidious wrote: »

Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

They are the leaders of the country not someone holding a ceremonial position. I'm also pretty sure that you can't walk up to the PM or president at the front door.

mariaalice · 22-01-2021 10:57am

Invidious wrote: »

Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

Very disingenuous there was a lot about the dangers of extremists, especially after the Simon Harris incident.

ohnonotgmail · 22-01-2021 10:57am

Invidious wrote: »

Protests take place outside 10 Downing Street and the White House all the time, for the obvious reason that they're the official residences of the UK's prime minister (well, he actually lives in 11, but 10 is still the official home) and the US president. If these public representatives were complaining that people shouldn't be allowed to protest outside the homes where they live with their families, they would look like fools -- because people have always protested outside such official residences, which are state-owned buildings and not privately owned residences. Protesting outside the Mansion House is exactly analogous.

Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

you cannot protest on downing st or at the front door of the white house.

suicide_circus · 22-01-2021 11:04am

If it was her and her husband's private house in suburbia i'd have a big problem with it but i feel there is a bit of a difference when it's a large and fairly ostentatious mansion owned by the state, the official residence which comes with her office, slap bang in the city centre.

Effects · 22-01-2021 11:12am

suicide_circus wrote: »

If it was her and her husband's private house in suburbia i'd have a big problem with it but i feel there is a bit of a difference when it's a large and fairly ostentatious mansion owned by the state, the official residence which comes with her office, slap bang in the city centre.

Again, it's her home. And no one has answered about why people are protesting at her residence/temporary mansion, about face masks.

Effects · 22-01-2021 11:13am

robodonkey wrote: »

"The word 'racism' is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything - and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.'"

Thomas Sowell

That goes both ways really. Racist posters on boards are always demanding 'evidence', then ignore it when it's presented.

22-01-2021 11:18am

I agree that using "her home" instead of Mansion House is manipulative. Its the official and ceremonial residence of her position and that is obviously relevant.

That said, it was wrong when people did this to Simon Harris and its wrong now.

riffmongous · 22-01-2021 11:20am

Invidious wrote: »

Did we also have threads about the anti-austerity protesters who gathered outside the privately owned residences of Simon Harris, Richard Bruton, and Leo Varadkar, and who attempted to intimidate Harris's wife and her newborn baby? I don't recall the hand-wringing then about the danger of extremists gathering outside people's homes.

I can definitely remember a big Harris thread. And he was Minister for Health at the time, not some up-to-now barely noticed ceremonial role.

mariaalice · 22-01-2021 11:21am

As a few have asked why would anti-mask protest target the Lord Mayor of Dublin? Has she something to do with the mask-wearing policy of the government.

CrazyFather1 · 22-01-2021 11:21am

You had someone posting on here last night saying the IRA shooting someone in the head is the same as a politician making a decision error in the response to COVID. This is Ireland 2020/21. Just read the pages of bile on any of the government threads with posters tripping over the other to make more and more disgusting comments
What happens when they get bored of spewing it one the internet? then you start to see them showing up in person to events etc.
I don't support the government and the sooner they move on the better but at the end of the day these are just people doing a job. Nothing else

riffmongous · 22-01-2021 11:22am

dan1895 wrote: »

I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.

Effects wrote: »

Again, it's her home. And no one has answered about why people are protesting at her residence/temporary mansion, about face masks.

Going to be a long time waiting for an answer there lads

mariaalice · 22-01-2021 11:27am

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

You had someone posting on here last night saying the IRA shooting someone in the head is the same as a politician making a decision error in the response to COVID. This is Ireland 2020/21. Just read the pages of bile on any of the government threads with posters tripping over the other to make more and more disgusting comments
What happens when they get bored of spewing it one the internet? then you start to see them showing up in person to events etc.
I don't support the government and the sooner they move on the better but at the end of the day these are just people doing a job. Nothing else

Boards is a great form of entertainment but very disappointed with what's allowed on some of the political threads here the same with the racists who get their say.

I know it's almost impossible to moderate and there is the issue of free speech.

WrenBoy · 22-01-2021 11:31am

dan1895 wrote: »

I still don't understand why you would protest the lord mayor over face masks.

Who knows man, your expecting logic from this crowd. Im all for making your voice heard and not mollycoddling politicians but this one makes zero sense in terms of the demands and the the venue.
I can only assume it was to gain publicity for the anti-mask movement, which has worked.

GarIT · 22-01-2021 11:31am

Interesting that she complained about not being able to go out for lunch. If she could let us know where is open for lunch that would be great.

Does seem a bit of a stupid protest.

Protestors shouldn't touch or encircle anyone, especially these days.

It's a bit different to protesting Simon Harris' home, but it's still wrong. Protesting where people live, home or house shouldn't be something we do here.

She did put her foot in it when she called the killing of George a racist murder by Gardaí and saying it wouldn't have happened to a white person within an hour of the news breaking.

CrazyFather1 · 22-01-2021 11:31am

mariaalice wrote: »

Boards is a great form of entertainment but very disappointed with what's allowed on some of the political threads here the same with the racists who get their say.

I know it's almost impossible to moderate and there is the issue of free speech.

Just look at the FF/FG thread now and you have someone accusing FG supporters of murdering a councillor. Nothing to back it up. This on the same page as saying the current TD's are the same as members of the IRA.
How is that free speech?

22-01-2021 11:33am

Effects wrote: »

Again, it's her home.

The White House is Joe Bidens home. No protesting allowed near that building then.

Beechwoodspark · 22-01-2021 11:34am

Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door

touts · 22-01-2021 11:38am

It is her home at the moment. The racists on here claiming it isn't because it is a state property are simply deflecting from the actions of their fellow racists.

It is time the state got serious with groups like these. The idea that 30 could turn up and only one be arrested is unacceptable. All 30 of them should have been arrested. If they tried this stunt in France or most other EU nations they would have had their heads cracked by the riot squad and the ringleaders would have started a lengthy jail sentence already.

Beechwoodspark · 22-01-2021 11:40am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door

Another thing is Ppl have long memories in this country - I’d say even in ten years time ppl will be reminding each other of Hazel chu’s tweets about the knife man

paw patrol · 22-01-2021 11:41am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

where did I suggest that? can you quote the post where i suggested that?

when you were critical of the protests at "her home"

but you say below.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

nothing odd about it. she lives there with her family. that makes it her home. a building can have multiple uses.

does this not mean they cannot protest at the mansion house cos (you claim) it is her home.

enlighten me then, when can they protest at the mansion in your opinion?

Tacitus Kilgore · 22-01-2021 11:41am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Considering Hazel chu’s social media reaction to the death of a violent knife man I was expecting some form of protest to arrive at her door

For masks?

"Ah we're not here cos we're racists, its... eh masks, yeah masks!"

What does the lord mayor of Dublin have to do with public health advice? fuck all.

francois · 22-01-2021 11:41am

Desperate spinning from the usual cohort. She currently resides at the Mansion House. It is her current home.

mariaalice · 22-01-2021 11:41am

We have this thing called elections both local and national if anyone does not agree with a politician do not voter them back in it's as simple as that.

22-01-2021 11:41am

touts wrote: »

It is her home at the moment. The racists on here claiming it isn't because it is a state property are simply deflecting from the actions of their fellow racists.

It is time the state got serious with groups like these. The idea that 30 could turn up and only one be arrested is unacceptable. All 30 of them should have been arrested. If they tried this stunt in France or most other EU nations they would have had their heads cracked by the riot squad and the ringleaders would have started a lengthy jail sentence already.

No protests allowed at Mansion House, Áras an Uachtaráin, The White House, An Dáil Eireann, 10 Downing Street and every other home of private citizens.

Got it.

Tacitus Kilgore · 22-01-2021 11:42am

paw patrol wrote: »

when you were critical of the protests at "her home"

but you say below.

does this not mean they cannot protest at the mansion house cos (you claim) it is her home.

enlighten me then, when can they protest at the mansion in your opinion?

Protesting = harassing someone on the doorstep of where they live, for a policy that they have nothing to do with?

Nah, it's something else, and you all know it.

22-01-2021 11:42am

boombang wrote: »

I don't think Chu played a blinder in response to George Nkencho, but there's been a nasty, grossly disproportionate backlash. Crazy stuff.

She's been receiving overtly racist abuse long before that

22-01-2021 11:43am

mariaalice wrote: »

We have this thing called elections both local and national if anyone does not agree with a politician do not voter them back in it's as simple as that.

So you disagree with all forms of political protest. Ok.

Tacitus Kilgore · 22-01-2021 11:44am

Deleted User wrote: »

She's been receiving overtly racist abuse long before that

Ah but they have a tweet now to "justify" their shit you see.

Racists, completely and utterly blind to their own racism.

BattleCorp · 22-01-2021 11:46am

mariaalice wrote: »

Are you actually victim-blaming her, they were an anti-mask protest.

I'd imagine a lot of the anti-mask gobsh1tes are also not fond of immigrants coming to this country.

So yeah, I'll double down on my comment where I insinuate this protest probably has something to do with her comments about G. Nkencho.

FTA69 · 22-01-2021 11:46am

Chu didn’t once say in the article that the protestors showed up at the Mansion House because she was Chinese to be fair to her; the article did mention that she has received loads of racist commentary and hassle online - something which is true.

Are all anti-mask conspiracists in the far right? No. But much of the anti-mask/anti-lockdown stuff in Ireland has been driven by far-right groups as well as neo-fascist groups like the National Party. They’re the ones who organised many of the protests we saw in Dublin year. There is often an organisational or political link between Covid conspiracy and far-right political sentiment in Ireland.

I’ve nothing politically in common with Chu and can’t stand the party she’s a member of, but equally she shouldn’t be harassed coming out of her front door by a shower of headbangers shouting about nonsense.

Annasopra · 22-01-2021 11:47am

enfant terrible wrote: »

I edged towards the door and when I got there one shouted: 'Hazel Chu, you're going to turn into a shapeshifting dragon someday and we're going to catch it on camera'. It was bizarre.

Sounds more like conspiracy theorists than Nazis.

It doesnt matter. Its still harassment and its still wrong.

BattleCorp · 22-01-2021 11:47am

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

So when you say something disagreeable, it gives licence to be harassed by the far right - for an entirely different thing - mask wearing?

You're saying she's fair game to be harassed for something completely unrelated because she said something completely unrelated?

Sounds classy, sounds like an apologist for racists harassing a woman on her doorstep (like it or not, it's her doorstep). victim blaming to the extreme. Jesus h christ.

Stall the ball there boss. Can you show me where I have backed the protesters?

I'll wait.

Lord Mayor of Dublin harassed at her home by protesters

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