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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #552
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    He's lived up to his promise of Making America Great again!


  • #553
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    If you had told me in 2016 that we'd be seeing over a hundred thousand dead Americans, burning cities, unaccountable government squads arresting people, the US humiliated on the world stage, a crashed economy and racial tensions at their highest by the next election, I'd have believed you.

    And all that commented on, if not exacerbated by, tweets.


  • #554
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Yet there's a distinct difference between a slowed down or edited video and then a (withdrawn) witness testimony saying that the candidate raped when when they 13, saying they could do anything they wanted whilst they penatrated her

    What? This is news to me. Have you got any further information on that please.

    The Biden videos weren't slowed down. That's just how he moves. He will be 80 in 2 years


    (No more links to unfunny female comedians )


  • #555
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    The promised Mexico border wall has grown by hundreds of miles since 2016

    go on then, proof for this one


  • #556
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,716 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    And here’s me thinking the US was on the brink of civil war.

    Yeah, things not exactly looking good over there.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #557
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    What? This is news to me. Have you got any further information on that please.

    The Biden videos weren't slowed down. That's just how he moves. He will be 80 in 2 years


    (No more links to unfunny female comedians )

    Joe is 4 years older than trump and much physically fitter than trump. and if you dont know about the rape allegations you need to inform yourself better on the person you support. it's not exactly a secret. I could provide a link but you probably wouldn't read it so what is the point.


  • #558
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Field of Dreams, is that why he hasn't built the wall?


  • #559
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Joe is 4 years older than trump and much physically fitter than trump. and if you dont know about the rape allegations you need to inform yourself better on the person you support. it's not exactly a secret. I could provide a link but you probably wouldn't read it so what is the point.

    Hang on. They are just allegations were they . Nothing happened. No court no arrests.

    Joe is 80 in 2 years. Doesn't matter which way you paint it. Hes too old for the most powerful position on the planet.


  • #560
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Hang on. They are just allegations were they . Nothing happened. No court no arrests.

    a civil suit so no arrests. trump has a long history of paying off the women he raped and getting them to sign NDAs.

    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe is 80 in 2 years. Doesn't matter which way you paint it. Hes too old for the most powerful position on the planet.

    you said Joe moves slowly. that is patently untrue. we have never seen trump move faster than a shuffle.


  • #561
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    go on then, proof for this one

    As of April 2020, he had increased the size of the wall by 200 miles:

    https://abc13.com/supreme-court-allows-border-wall-construction-to-continue/6346755/

    So the claim that the wall has increased in size by "hundreds of miles" is true. I believe there is close to another 100 miles built since then so he is on target to his promised 450 miles by the end of 2020.


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  • #562
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    a civil suit so no arrests. trump has a long history of paying off the women he raped and getting them to sign NDAs.




    you said Joe moves slowly. that is patently untrue. we have never seen trump move faster than a shuffle.

    You or one of the others said the video was slowed down. Is it possible for some to type a post without typing Trump in there somewhere.


  • #563
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    As of April 2020, he had increased the size of the wall by 200 miles:

    https://abc13.com/supreme-court-allows-border-wall-construction-to-continue/6346755/

    So the claim that the wall has increased in size by "hundreds of miles" is true. I believe there is close to another 100 miles built since then so he is on target to his promised 450 miles by the end of 2020.

    sorry, but no
    from your own link
    Very little new wall construction has actually taken place. The administration celebrated the completion of 100 miles of construction in January, but most of what's been completed thus far has been replacements of the smaller barrier designs that were constructed with decades-old technology. Trump visited the border in late June to celebrate 200 miles of construction even as the administration has shifted focus to the coronavirus pandemic.
    CBP data released in the past week shows just three miles of wall have been built where no barriers previously existed, with lawsuits from private property owners delaying the federal land acquisition process.


  • #564
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,753 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Hang on. They are just allegations were they . Nothing happened. No court no arrests.

    Joe is 80 in 2 years. Doesn't matter which way you paint it. Hes too old for the most powerful position on the planet.

    So only arrests count? So stop with the Creepy Joe insults. He has never been charged, never mind found guilty.


  • #565
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    I'm finding it difficult to reply to you. One minute my post is there. The next it's gone and I'm back in page 36. Iv replied twice but I cant see either.

    I think the site is under attack from banned far right operatives


  • #566
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    sorry, but no
    from your own link

    To be fair the old fence had a lot of issues with it , so even the 200 mile refurbishment program would have helped a lot thats still a piecemeal 200 mile border now a uniform strong one fit for purpose


  • #567
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    You or one of the others said the video was slowed down. Is it possible for some to type a post without typing Trump in there somewhere.

    i didnt say that. i replied to you who said that Joe is slow. that is patently untrue.


  • #568
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    So only arrests count? So stop with the Creepy Joe insults. He has never been charged, never mind found guilty.

    he has never been accused.


  • #569
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    ...


    I get what your saying but the wall is being built no matter how you look at it. It would be pointless to construct new, modern walls immediately after a section of old, dilapidated wall. Its not being made simple for the president either, he has had the pandemic curve ball to deal with for instance, as well as democrats trying to withhold construction funds.


  • #570
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Its akin to making Ken Barlow PM of the Uk


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  • #571
    tonycascarino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Trump could cure all world sickness, eradicate world poverty and give 1 billion dollars to every American but the wacky people on the left/democrats would still ''protest'' and moan. In any case, Trump will get re-elected. His opposition is someone who is seemingly at the early stages of dementia and who wouldn't be able to hang with Trump in a live TV debate in any case. Also, the silent majority have seen what America would be like under Biden if all these ''protests'' in democrat run cities are anything to go by.


  • #572
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The world is safer because of Trump?

    How much do you get paid for this satire?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #573
    [Deleted User]
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Its akin to making Ken Barlow PM of the Uk

    Not really, Biden has a far more established political than Trump for example. He also tends to be more respected both domestically and globally than Trump. It's not gonna be an exciting presidency in all likelihood but that's a hell of a lot better than the events of the last 4 years. It's some much needed stability, particularly in the current situation.


  • #574
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not really, Biden has a far more established political than Trump for example. He also tends to be more respected both domestically and globally than Trump. It's not gonna be an exciting presidency in all likelihood but that's a hell of a lot better than the events of the last 4 years. It's some much needed stability, particularly in the current situation.

    In fairness I agree with you about stability. Trump spoke about America first. In international politics he has definitely put America first. Countries putting themselves first isnt a crime though. China put themselves first as do Russia etc.

    But from a global point of view Biden would be a better president for everyone if the USA wants to be seen as world leader.

    The tension with China will only escalate no matter who is in charge. For people who live in the western world a strong America is vital.


  • #575
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    The world is safer because of Trump?

    How much do you get paid for this satire?

    Safer from north korean missiles - yes
    Safer from isis - yes
    Safer from any other risk - no
    More in danger from any risk - no

    The rise of radical political groups left and right causing issues is one of the most media talked about things, but we had the same under obama with the occupy movement etc... so its nothing new.


  • #576
    [Deleted User]
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Safer from north korean missiles - yes
    Safer from isis - yes
    Safer from any other risk - no
    More in danger from any risk - no

    Isis was a strategy that was ongoing from before his presidency iirc. North Korea blew up a shared facility only a month back so there's no real indication that there's been any real deescalation.

    In addition to that, he escalated a situation with Iran and wrecked relations with Iraq in the process.


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  • #577
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eh, domestically he has managed to be entirely divisive. During a pandemic he has managed to politicise wearing masks. Has gone against state wishes in relation to Floyd protests and has managed to escalate situations. When a woman was killed by a White supremacist in Charlottesville, he said there was good people even on the white supremacist side. He has treated the press as an enemy of the people resulting in them being targeted by terrorists.

    So he has terrible domestically as well.


  • #578
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    What? This is news to me. Have you got any further information on that please.

    The Biden videos weren't slowed down. That's just how he moves. He will be 80 in 2 years


    (No more links to unfunny female comedians )

    There you go, there's the court documents

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

    also to note that Trump has history of paying off accusers and if they don't accept a pay off then intimidating them, like what Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, testified and alleged respectively


  • #579
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.


  • #580
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    Still nobody has provided any credible proof of him having dementia. It's basically like the efforts to claim Clinton was dying. (that predated her fainting) Meanwhile Trump uses the presidency for his ego, says ridiculous things all the time and it seems to be ignored by supporters. He also seems to be incredibly poorly informed on everything. But that's not worrying?


  • #581
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    You know that we hear people calling Trump a dictator, time and time again.

    where do you hear this?


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  • #582
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    Having a president that doesn't pour oil on every fire they come across would be a vast improvement


  • #583
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    Who has dementia? Can you personal verify this? Have you a medical qualification to make this prognosis?


  • #584
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    How will Biden make things more chaotic?

    He will listen to the scientists and doctors, he won’t surround himself with lying sociopaths.
    He will take responsibility.


  • #585
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    Trumps behaviours are worringly akin to a dictator. He doesn't listen to reason around him or advice from the experts. The only people he listens to are business friends, Ivanka and the two sons. Also people in the media that are nice to him.

    Biden will listen to advisors and experts and make informed decisions off the back of that like any normal president. That in itself is a vast improvement.

    This is an abnormal presidency with a narcissistic man child in power.


  • #586
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Trumps behaviours are worringly akin to a dictator. He doesn't listen to reason around him or advice from the experts. The only people he listens to are business friends, Ivanka and the two sons. Also people in the media that are nice to him.

    Biden will listen to advisors and experts and make informed decisions off the back of that like any normal president. That in itself is a vast improvement.

    This is an abnormal presidency with a narcissistic man child in power.

    Biden won't be running the country. The democratic party will . You will hear very little from him. He is more likely to be having nap time in a quiet room in the White House. Otherwise he will be sitting with a blanket over his lap and a nice cup of bovril on the go


  • #587
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Threads merged


  • #588
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    The current old fool was advising people to inject themselves with disinfectant so it's odd to see his defenders here pretend to care about cognitive ability when it's clearly no problem for them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #589
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Biden won't be running the country. The democratic party will . You will hear very little from him. He is more likely to be having nap time in a quiet room in the White House. Otherwise he will be sitting with a blanket over his lap and a nice cup of bovril on the go

    do you not tire of posting the same nonsense on a loop?


  • #590
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Biden won't be running the country. The democratic party will . You will hear very little from him. He is more likely to be having nap time in a quiet room in the White House. Otherwise he will be sitting with a blanket over his lap and a nice cup of bovril on the go

    I notice you haven't responded to the court documents that I posted, willful ignorance?


  • #591
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you not tire of posting the same nonsense on a loop?

    https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-preparing-to-announce-running-mate/

    I hope its Elizabeth Warren. But it has been suggested his VP running mate should be a black woman.


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  • #592
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-preparing-to-announce-running-mate/

    I hope its Elizabeth Warren. But it has been suggested his VP running mate should be a black woman.

    Still not reading them documents? Seems you're up to your old tricks of ignoring a reply that refutes or claim or else attacking the source


  • #593
    [Deleted User]
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-preparing-to-announce-running-mate/

    I hope its Elizabeth Warren. But it has been suggested his VP running mate should be a black woman.

    Why are you ignoring the court documents?


  • #594
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    duploelabs wrote: »
    I notice you haven't responded to the court documents that I posted, willful ignorance?

    it was clear they were never interested in them


  • #595
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    https://www.oann.com/joe-biden-preparing-to-announce-running-mate/

    I hope its Elizabeth Warren. But it has been suggested his VP running mate should be a black woman.

    what does have to do with your continued posting of the sleepy joe nonsense?


  • #596
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    da_miser wrote: »
    Harris to be VP

    Dems do not want a debate , will show Joes is senile.
    Watch as all is done to avoid a debate.
    Biden to quit after a year or 2 at best,
    Harris to be president and Buttigieg will be VP

    Pray Trump wins as alternative is..........

    He had zero trouble debating in the primaries.

    Trump is just going to talk/shout over him anyway.


  • #597
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    tonycascarino wrote: »
    I agree with the O.P. for the most part. Trump could cure all world sickness, eradicate world poverty and give 1 billion dollars to every American but the wacky people on the left/democrats would still ''protest'' and moan. In any case, Trump will get re-elected. His opposition is someone who is seemingly at the early stages of dementia and who wouldn't be able to hang with Trump in a live TV debate in any case. Also, the silent majority have seen what America would be like under Biden if all these ''protests'' in democrat run cities is anything to go by.

    And the same tired lines get trotted out yet again.

    Accuse Biden of "early stages of dementia" while ignoring Trumps issues and visits to hospitals, Claim Biden wouldnt be able for live debates while ignoring the fact that its the Republicans saying Trump shouldn't do live debates unless he gets to control the venues and the narrative of said debates.


  • #598
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    If you think things are bad in the US now, they will be absolutely chaotic when a dementia ridden senile old fool is in charge, keep an eye out on who Biden picks as his VP, because that's the next president of the US.

    He already is in charge, thats why its important for the American people to vote him out come November.


  • #599
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And the same tired lines get trotted out yet again.

    Accuse Biden of "early stages of dementia" while ignoring Trumps issues and visits to hospitals, Claim Biden wouldnt be able for live debates while ignoring the fact that its the Republicans saying Trump shouldn't do live debates unless he gets to control the venues and the narrative of said debates.

    Even the ridiculously biased CNN (Clinton News Network) are running the Biden shouldn't debate Trump story

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/08/01/should-biden-debate-trump.cnn

    Biden has hid away from day one and will continue to do so. Such a weak candidate


  • #600
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Biden won't be running the country. The democratic party will . You will hear very little from him. He is more likely to be having nap time in a quiet room in the White House. Otherwise he will be sitting with a blanket over his lap and a nice cup of bovril on the go

    And here qe have a prime example of yet another idiotic post making the same idiotic claims, it's getting boring now lads, if that's the best you have then it just goes to show how much trouble Trumps presidency is in.


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  • #601
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    duploelabs wrote: »
    I notice you haven't responded to the court documents that I posted, willful ignorance?

    Poster has a habit of demanding proof and not reading it.


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