Foxhunter Pub Closed by Revenue ?

RunDMC · 16-06-2020 10:31am

New windows going in yesterday.

R

16-06-2020 10:34am

I believe these guys are going in there

https://pressup.ie/bars/

Interesting....

degsie · 16-06-2020 9:50pm

5555555555 wrote: »

I believe these guys are going in there

https://pressup.ie/bars/

Interesting....

source?

17-06-2020 3:16pm

My mate told me :pac:

We all live in Lucan

magicray · 17-06-2020 7:54pm

Actually heard it was to be a bar/restaurant myself and that planning permission wasn't needed as that's what was there before

Who knows !

alias no.9 · 17-06-2020 8:08pm

Saw an AMG Mercedes GWagon pulling in there around lunchtime, someone with deep pockets anyway

Mary BS · 19-06-2020 2:26pm

Saw Gecko Catering Equipment Van in the Foxhunter Carpark today, this would suggest restaurant/ cafe on the site as suggested in previous post.
Gecko supply catering equipment to commercial premises, so it looks promising for the area, finally....yippee!

r93kaey5p2izun · 20-06-2020 3:08am

I heard it was pressup too.

iggy · 20-06-2020 4:50pm

It is pressup

" brand new digs now in The Slipper Bar, Glasnevin and Cherry Tree Pub, Walkinstown… stay tuned as Wowburger get set to open even more burger hotspots in The Foxhunter, Lucan

https://pressup.ie/happenings/wow-and-proud/

degsie · 20-06-2020 5:34pm

Heroditas · 20-06-2020 7:39pm

Ah FFS, the last thing we need in Lucan is another effin' fast food place.
I'd heard it was Press Up but was hoping it would be Union Cafe or something like Dollard and Co or Elephant and Castle.

Instead ... a fancy chipper.
To go with all the others that are in Lucan

Gotta say I'm disappointed with that. Looks like I'll have to keep heading out to Maynooth or the city centre for a decent meal.

L1011 · 20-06-2020 8:41pm

It probably will be a Union Cafe (or Elephant & Castle) - its FAR too big to be a standalone Wowburger.

They now run Wowburger delivery out of basically every kitchen they can get their hands on including all the Union Cafe/E&C kitchens

megaten · 20-06-2020 8:52pm

L1011 wrote: »

It probably will be a Union Cafe (or Elephant & Castle) - its FAR too big to be a standalone Wowburger.

They now run Wowburger delivery out of basically every kitchen they can get their hands on including all the Union Cafe/E&C kitchens

Funny you should say that I saw Wowburger and Elephent and castle show up on Just eat in lucan this evening and didn't know what to make of it.

L1011 · 20-06-2020 9:10pm

I seriously doubt the kitchen is ready yet so I'd imagine they're being covered from the Captain Americas in Blanchardstown for now - looong waits if so.

Heroditas · 21-06-2020 12:06am

megaten wrote: »

Funny you should say that I saw Wowburger and Elephent and castle show up on Just eat in lucan this evening and didn't know what to make of it.

Hopefully that's the case.
Anyway, tonnes of work to be done on the place. I reckon it won't be ready until Hallowen at the very earliest

average_runner · 21-06-2020 1:49pm

L1011 wrote: »

I seriously doubt the kitchen is ready yet so I'd imagine they're being covered from the Captain Americas in Blanchardstown for now - looong waits if so.

Apparently there is a porta cabin there cooking the food

DopeTech · 21-06-2020 4:39pm

average_runner wrote: »

Apparently there is a porta cabin there cooking the food

Brings a whole new meaning to the wow in wow burger. Provided they are nice I suppose it will build up a bit of demand for the place.

I imagine they will turn it into a kind of truck-stop. It could do well provided it's not crazy expensive.

average_runner · 21-06-2020 5:24pm

DopeTech wrote: »

Brings a whole new meaning to the wow in wow burger. Provided they are nice I suppose it will build up a bit of demand for the place.

I imagine they will turn it into a kind of truck-stop. It could do well provided it's not crazy expensive.

Once trucks dont block the slip road

DopeTech · 21-06-2020 6:18pm

average_runner wrote: »

Once trucks dont block the slip road

The carpark should be big enough to hold a good few.

L1011 · 21-06-2020 6:43pm

average_runner wrote: »

Apparently there is a porta cabin there cooking the food

With no planning permission presumably

degsie · 21-06-2020 9:54pm

DopeTech wrote: »

Brings a whole new meaning to the wow in wow burger. Provided they are nice I suppose it will build up a bit of demand for the place.

I imagine they will turn it into a kind of truck-stop. It could do well provided it's not crazy expensive.

Not so handy for trucks heading city bound.

Heroditas · 21-06-2020 10:24pm

Ok so I looked at the Elephant and Castle website and you can order for collection from the Foxhunter. Currently listed as closed and pre-order only.

average_runner · 22-06-2020 11:17am

L1011 wrote: »

With no planning permission presumably

Why would they need one? Foxhunter was allowed to serve food before.

L1011 · 22-06-2020 1:11pm

average_runner wrote: »

Why would they need one? Foxhunter was allowed to serve food before.

A portakabin would need it regardless

average_runner · 22-06-2020 1:55pm

L1011 wrote: »

A portakabin would need it regardless

Wonder how many building sites has that .

L1011 · 22-06-2020 3:54pm

average_runner wrote: »

Wonder how many building sites has that .

Basically all of them would have permission for the site compound during construction

There is no permission for anything here as they are just refurbishing an existing pub.

The widespread idea that something being temporary means it doesn't need planning is entirely wrong. But I suspect SDCC would either not do anything or would take an eternity to do anything; by which time it'd be gone.

DopeTech · 22-06-2020 5:04pm

L1011 wrote: »

Basically all of them would have permission for the site compound during construction

There is no permission for anything here as they are just refurbishing an existing pub.

The widespread idea that something being temporary means it doesn't need planning is entirely wrong. But I suspect SDCC would either not do anything or would take an eternity to do anything; by which time it'd be gone.

To be fair to them who is it harming? It's not as if the place is overlooked.

L1011 · 22-06-2020 7:02pm

DopeTech wrote: »

To be fair to them who is it harming? It's not as if the place is overlooked.

Issue with planning laws is that if you start ignoring them for one thing it becomes extremely hard to enforce them for another.

But that's what's done here a lot of the time!

emo72 · 30-06-2020 2:01pm

Seems to be going full pelt down there. I seen the wowburger van. It's that what it is? A burger place? Or is there a bar as well?

ArthurG · 30-06-2020 3:26pm

There was also an Elephant & Castle van food truck there over the weekend

Spanish Eyes · 30-06-2020 4:49pm

I used to live out that direction many moons ago. The Foxhunter had a great Jazz Session at lunchtime on Sundays, a great buffet grub set up and a nice atmosphere, IMO.

The outside area is immense and on a good day was very pleasant to sit outside at the back. A kids playground in view of the adults was an added bonus. Then plenty of parking to the right of the site.

I do hope that whatever ends up there is a nice set up. We shall see.

L1011 · 30-06-2020 6:49pm

emo72 wrote: »

Seems to be going full pelt down there. I seen the wowburger van. It's that what it is? A burger place? Or is there a bar as well?

Its currently a delivery kitchen only; the bar licence wasn't renewed as of last months register update (there'll be a new one some time this week or early next week).

The windows that have gone in look rather cheap and cheerful which is a little concerning for the fitout - Press Up usually go high end.

unkel · 01-07-2020 10:58am

Got takeaway from Wowburger last night. Pretty decent burgers!

average_runner · 01-07-2020 8:43pm

unkel wrote: »

Got takeaway from Wowburger last night. Pretty decent burgers!

E&C was good also. Got wings and ribs

Heroditas · 02-07-2020 4:47pm

unkel wrote: »

Got takeaway from Wowburger last night. Pretty decent burgers!

We did the same last Saturday. Ordered on Friday night for Saturday evening but the order appeared to have been lost in the system as it wasn't ready when I got there.
I could see why because they were flat out with deliveries for Just Eat and also people collecting. Roaring trade.
Very happy with the food. Tasty and hot and I'd go there again rather than McDonalds for stuff like that.

Saw elsewhere that E&C, Wow Burger and also a Dollar & Co are going into the site? I guess it's big enough to accommodate all 3, particularly if Wow are just doing takeaway.

unkel · 02-07-2020 11:48pm

We got a large portion of the wings from E&C a few days before the burgers. They were decent too and also decent value for money. Not perfect though, the additional sauce had not enough real butter in it and its acidity was too high (not boiled off long enough). Apologies but I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to Buffalo wings

average_runner · 07-07-2020 12:35pm

unkel wrote: »

We got a large portion of the wings from E&C a few days before the burgers. They were decent too and also decent value for money. Not perfect though, the additional sauce had not enough real butter in it and its acidity was too high (not boiled off long enough). Apologies but I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to Buffalo wings

Avenue in Maynooth does the best wings. E&C are good but I didnt pure the sauce over them, just dipped them in.

Hudson room which does takeway from Palmerstown aren't bad either.

Heroditas · 07-07-2020 11:28pm

average_runner wrote: »

Avenue in Maynooth does the best wings. E&C are good but I didnt pure the sauce over them, just dipped them in.

Hudson room which does takeway from Palmerstown aren't bad either.

+1 on the Avenue wings.

leinster93 · 20-10-2020 9:28pm

Interesting planning application for a 20 story building at the Foxhunter with an through road application to go through the Hermitage estate at the rear...
http://www.sdublincoco.ie/Planning/Details?p=1&r=SD20A%2F0259&regref=SD20A%2F0259

L1011 · 20-10-2020 9:32pm

There'll be war over that.

Applicant is, unsurprisingly, a Press Up Group associated company.

Heroditas · 20-10-2020 9:35pm

From having a quick look at the proposed development, it breaches quite a number of regulations. Can't see the original proposal being allowed anyway.

leinster93 · 20-10-2020 9:36pm

I'd say the idea is put in for 20 storey and settle on 10 which is nuts all the same. The making of an acces point into an existing estate will no doubt cause war to an established estate which probably already has its difficulties on exiting the estate...

leinster93 · 20-10-2020 9:38pm

Heroditas wrote: »

From having a quick look at the proposed development, it breaches quite a number of regulations. Can't see the original proposal being allowed anyway.

What regs would be breached?

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2020 9:38pm

L1011 wrote: »

There'll be war over that.

Applicant is, unsurprisingly, a Press Up Group associated company.

Back the road in Palmerstown on the Vincent Byrne site planning has been granted for a truly humungous build to rent apartment development. I know the site and the access and egress will be terrible at that junction.

So I wouldn't hold my breath about planning being ditched for the Foxhunter.

Heroditas · 20-10-2020 9:38pm

leinster93 wrote: »

I'd say the idea is put in for 20 storey and settle on 10 which is nuts all the same. The making of an acces point into an existing estate will no doubt cause war to an established estate which probably already has its difficulties on exiting the estate...

I'd say they'd be happy to get everything else bar the 20 storey. 10 is still ridiculous given the rest of the buildings in the area. Just can't see it being allowed.

leinster93 · 20-10-2020 9:40pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Back the road in Palmerstown on the Vincent Byrne site planning has been granted for a truly humungous build to rent apartment development. I know the site and the access and egress will be terrible at that junction.

So I wouldn't hold my breath about planning being ditched for the Foxhunter.

Can the planning be appealed with An Botd Planala?

Heroditas · 20-10-2020 9:50pm

leinster93 wrote: »

What regs would be breached?

Overlooking nearby properties.
Out of proportion with the whole area
Another simple one is inadequate car parking available, given the number of apartments. A certain number of parking spots must be provided, depending on the zone the development is in.
Any planning engineer or architect worth their salt will be able to lodge a complaint that will shoot it down easily enough. They they'll revise and resubmit.
However, if nobody objects, then it'll be approved.

Look at it this way - its taller than Liberty Hall. Imagine Liberty Hall sitting in that car park

leinster93 · 20-10-2020 10:00pm

Thanks, Liberty Hall puts it in perspective.

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2020 10:42pm

leinster93 wrote: »

Can the planning be appealed with An Botd Planala?

Appealed to ABP and can go ahead.

L1011 · 21-10-2020 9:26am

Heroditas wrote: »

Overlooking nearby properties.
Out of proportion with the whole area
Another simple one is inadequate car parking available, given the number of apartments. A certain number of parking spots must be provided, depending on the zone the development is in.
Any planning engineer or architect worth their salt will be able to lodge a complaint that will shoot it down easily enough. They they'll revise and resubmit.
However, if nobody objects, then it'll be approved.

Look at it this way - its taller than Liberty Hall. Imagine Liberty Hall sitting in that car park

Overlooking and "out of proportion" are not regulations, as such.

Parking wise, this would be a "intermediate urban location" on a high-density public transport route and hence not have parking requirements. This is why there's such a high bike parking provision.

This isn't Oakmounts first rodeo, basically.

Foxhunter Pub Closed by Revenue ?

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