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Dr Vernon Coleman: They want to kill 6 Bn of us, enslave us [Covid-19]

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  • #2
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Haven't heard of the chap before, but seems he's already sold 2m+ health-realted books in the uk across the last 30yrs or so, and as had list of glowing testimonials on his website (although his own personal site is rather amateur looking to say the least).

    A video of a chap in a chair, really isn't the correct media approach for such vblogs, unless there's information graphics, animations and so on to be used.

    A googlebot (well...rather a 'Bing', as google is now asking everyday to accept their ad settings) leads to a (4.6*) Podcast: some chap that claims to be the largest indie news show in Europe. And the (very recent) Vernon one 14th Sept registers as perhaps the most popular show he's over done (a bog accept chap {R'Allen} based in Salford). It's a bit too long to listen to it all, or even most, but the presenter style is perhaps more skilled and humourous than his very initial impression might give.

    Be warned however, there is also a lot (most of it really) of 'common sense' sprinkled in, which really isn't ideal during this/any state of pandemic panic.
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-richie-allen-show/id1090284266


  • #3
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    He's a complete moonbat, fraud, aids-denier and anti-vaxxer who has been "has been censured by the Press Complaints Commission and banned by the Advertising Standards Authority." and has had material removed/banned from social media

    Here's an overview
    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816/an-old-man-in-a-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths


  • #4
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    He's a complete moonbat, fraud, aids-denier and anti-vaxxer who has been "has been censured by the Press Complaints Commission and banned by the Advertising Standards Authority." and has had material removed/banned from social media

    Here's an overview
    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816/an-old-man-in-a-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths

    He addresses that article in the following video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnX4nerxXk


  • #5
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/everything-that-has-happened-was-meant-to-happen_YzirTosrfBeJD65.html


  • #6
    Parabellum9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    I think he might be just a tiny bit senile.


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  • #7
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    He addresses that article in the following video:

    He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.


  • #8
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.

    He says in his latest video that the reason for the pandemic is to implement Agenda 21 and that Goldman Sachs told WHO to force people to wear muzzles.


  • #9
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    He says in his latest video that the reason for the pandemic is to implement Agenda 21 and that Goldman Sachs told WHO to force people to wear muzzles.

    Indeed and Alex Jones says something different, and another conspiracy theorist says something else, and another one has a slightly different take, for another conspiracy theorist it's all a plan by the UN, for yet another it's a massive secret plan by certain pharmaceutical companies, the Jews, 5G, Bill Gates, Chinese lab, US experimentation, etc, etc, etc..

    You get to take your pick and that becomes the "truth". This man is no different from some flat earther - both are selling bull****, just slightly different audiences.


  • #10
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Indeed and Alex Jones says something different, and another conspiracy theorist says something else, and another one has a slightly different take, for another conspiracy theorist it's all a plan by the UN, for yet another it's a massive secret plan by certain pharmaceutical companies, the Jews, 5G, Bill Gates, Chinese lab, US experimentation, etc, etc, etc..

    You get to take your pick and that becomes the "truth". This man is no different from some flat earther - both are selling bull****, just slightly different audiences.

    I'm watching his latest video. He says that mask wearers are "sleepwalking to their death".

    He's going to write a book about Agenda 21.

    In the following video about Agenda 21 people quote from the document: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

    Did they make quotes up?


  • #11
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.


    Just like 'professor' Luke O'Neill so..??
    And Luke has now become the RTE 'poster boy' for information on the virus.
    Only a short while back he slated healthy people for wearing masks (Late Late Show) saying these type of people were watching too many horror movies..!!!


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  • #12
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    An old article about Agenda 21: https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/14/the-u-n-s-earth-summit-has-its-head-in-the-clouds/#66cdeb5187ca

    What do you make of the following quotes from the article:

    "Earth Summit chairman Maurice Strong left no doubt about where to place blame for global problems, stating in the conference report: "It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class…involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, golf courses, small electric appliances, home and work place air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable…A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.""

    "Addressing the Summit audience, Strong also suggested a primary remedy, whereby: We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse." Former Senator Timothy Wirth, representing the Clinton-Gore administration as undersecretary of state for global affairs, stated that public concern about global warming could be used to advance that cause: "We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which has lobbied for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change."

    "The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism. If this sounds a bit like conspiratorial paranoia, let's review some words spoken by then-President Jacques Chirac of France in a 2000 speech supporting a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective: "For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environment Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established."


  • #13
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    You'd likey trust Dr.Coleman a bit more than the actual proper moonbat and snakeoil backed (most likely Pharma paid for) chap: Professor Neil Ferguson
    Sure Ferguson hasn't got a prediction even close in 10yrs, from BSE/CJD/Swine/F&M/Covid, all hugely over-estimated to assist his ICL sponsors.

    The BBC of course had the (discredited, and poorly looking) Ferg' on their news channel today, for his 'advice'.
    Sure he had to quit as a government {author of apocalyptic modeling} advisor, yet is still giving out advice on semi-state TV.
    They should have given him some advice instead:
    Don't go swinging and driving up the country (to someone elses wife, a possible STI risk), and all during peak phase lockdown.


  • #14
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »
    You'd likey trust Dr.Coleman a bit more than the actual proper moonbat and snakeoil backed (most likely Pharma paid for) chap: Professor Neil Ferguson
    Sure Ferguson hasn't got a prediction even close in 10yrs, from BSE/CJD/Swine/F&M/Covid, all hugely over-estimated to assist his ICL sponsors.

    The BBC of course had the (discredited, and poorly looking) Ferg' on their news channel today, for his 'advice'.
    Sure he had to quit as a government {author of apocalyptic modeling} advisor, yet is still giving out advice on semi-state TV.
    They should have given him some advice instead:
    Don't go swinging and driving up the country (to someone elses wife, a possible STI risk), and all during peak phase lockdown.

    Says it all. And still people believe him and the government and obediently wear the muzzle.

    More from the people behind Agenda 21:

    “If we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecology sound society under socialism. I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism.” Judi Bari (Earth First)

    “We must make this place an insecure and inhospitable place for Capitalists and their projects – we must reclaim the roads and plowed lands, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres or presently settled land.” Dave Foreman, Earth First

    “Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective.” Harvey Ruvin, Vice Chairman, ICLEI, The Wildlands Project

    “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Earth Summit, 1992

    “Land…cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth, therefore contributes to social injustice.” The Local Agenda 21 Planning Guide, published by ICLEI, 1996

    “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.” Michael Oppenheimer (Environmental Defence Fund)

    “The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable, indeed a sacred principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperations.” UN Commission on Global Governance.

    “Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance as a means to solving otherwise unmanageable crises.” Lester Brown (WorldWatchInstitute)

    “Regionalism must precede globalism. We foresee a seamless system of governance from local communities, individual states, regional unions and up through to the United Nations itself.” UN Commission on Global Governance


  • #15
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'm watching his latest video. He says that mask wearers are "sleepwalking to their death".

    He's going to write a book about Agenda 21.

    In the following video about Agenda 21 people quote from the document: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

    Did they make quotes up?

    It's nonsense

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/


  • #16
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's nonsense

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/

    But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

    Agenda 21/2030 sounds nice, but the quotes I posted tell a different story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnyj258IarU

    What are your thoughts on that video?


  • #17
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

    Agenda 21/2030 sounds nice, but the quotes I posted tell a different story.
    But it's the same kinda stuff you've been doing for other things.
    They are totally innocent quotes you are taking out of context to make them sound sinister.

    Again, you are deciding these are sinister even though you're not able to explain why.

    Again, you should stop reading things from the internet cause you don't seem to know how to properly process them.


  • #18
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

    The "quotes" are out of context. This concept has been explained to you in a previous post here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114590578&postcount=40

    I have provided a link that fact-checks this Agenda 21 conspiracy stuff. Here is another straight-forward explainer: https://www.splcenter.org/20140331/agenda-21-un-sustainability-and-right-wing-conspiracy-theory

    If you want to ignore the facts, and believe in this conspiracy, no one can help you with that, that's your choice


  • #19
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    The "quotes" are out of context. This concept has been explained to you in a previous post here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114590578&postcount=40

    I have provided a link that fact-checks this Agenda 21 conspiracy stuff. Here is another straight-forward explainer: https://www.splcenter.org/20140331/agenda-21-un-sustainability-and-right-wing-conspiracy-theory

    If you want to ignore the facts, and believe in this conspiracy, no one can help you with that, that's your choice

    I read that report from The Southern Poverty Law Center, an extreme left wing organisation, a few months ago. SPLC is not an impartial source.

    "The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism."

    What context can make that okay? I accept that I was wrong about the 'global surveillance' in the book on The Great Reset.


  • #20
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    "The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism."

    What context can make that okay?

    Simple

    "The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform": Global climate change has given us a basis (a platform) to take global action.

    "Wealth redistribution agendas": Income equality, reducing the gap between rich and poor. Standard economic goals.

    "world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism": Leadership making decisions based on protecting the environment.
    I accept that I was wrong about the 'global surveillance' in the book on The Great Reset.

    Is someone supposed to explain every line in every one of these books and documents for you? The issue is your paranoid interpretation of standard books/documents all of which is fuelled by extreme conspiracy sites and pundits


  • #21
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Isn't the simple truth that the (all x20) important UN sustainability targets (set in 2010) can't be met, not in 2015, not now in 2020 (as proven last week)
    ...and likely not any by 2020, 2025 and so on.

    The only way they can all be met, in what the WEF/Davos {The Great Reset 2021}, call a 'short window of opportunity' is through dramatic sudden changes.
    Perhaps addressing an already overpopulated world is one viewpoint considered.

    Even family planning and normal interventions won't prevent e.g. The continent of Africa to double it's entire population by 2050^.
    With widespread fammines: crop failures likely, thus wars and internal conflicts there, their 2.5bn will become the single biggest issue for the EU's 500m in/before 2050.

    ^According to UN estimates, the population of Africa may reach 2.5 billion by 2050 (about 26% of the world's total) and nearly 4.5 billion by 2100 (about 40% of the world's total). Sep 5 2019


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  • #22
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »
    Isn't the simple truth that the (all x20) important UN sustainability targets (set in 2010) can't be met, not in 2015, not now in 2020 (as proven last week)
    ...and likely not any by 2020, 2025 and so on.

    The only way they can all be met, in what the WEF/Davos {The Great Reset 2021}, call a 'short window of opportunity' is through dramatic sudden changes.
    Perhaps addressing an already overpopulated world is one viewpoint considered.

    Even family planning and normal interventions won't prevent e.g. The continent of Africa to double it's entire population by 2050^.
    With widespread fammines: crop failures likely, thus wars and internal conflicts there, their 2.5bn will become the single biggest issue for the EU's 500m in/before 2050.

    ^According to UN estimates, the population of Africa may reach 2.5 billion by 2050 (about 26% of the world's total) and nearly 4.5 billion by 2100 (about 40% of the world's total). Sep 5 2019

    I don't even know what you are writing about. Is there a conspiracy?


  • #23
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Simple

    "The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform": Global climate change has given us a basis (a platform) to take global action.

    "Wealth redistribution agendas": Income equality, reducing the gap between rich and poor. Standard economic goals.

    "world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism": Leadership making decisions based on protecting the environment.



    Is someone supposed to explain every line in every one of these books and documents for you? The issue is your paranoid interpretation of standard books/documents all of which is fuelled by extreme conspiracy sites and pundits

    Thanks. Good explanation.

    I read the following comment on an article in the Daile Mail:

    "ALL about control! This has NOTHING to do with a virus. It's a global economy reset together with the introduction of an authoritarian state. Look at the rights and freedoms which every person has had STOLEN from them since January. You realise they won't be returned, don't you??"

    He seems to be certain that that's what's going on.


  • #24
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Thanks. Good explanation.

    I read the following comment on an article in the Daile Mail:

    "ALL about control! This has NOTHING to do with a virus. It's a global economy reset together with the introduction of an authoritarian state. Look at the rights and freedoms which every person has had STOLEN from them since January. You realise they won't be returned, don't you??"

    He seems to be certain that that's what's going on.

    Yup, sounds very certain so it must be true. I guess your only choice now is do you capitulate with our new authoritarian state overlords, or do you join the resistance against them?


  • #25
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yup, sounds very certain so it must be true. I guess your only choice now is do you capitulate with our new authoritarian state overlords, or do you join the resistance against them?

    He has a point about the stolen freedoms. No sign of them ever being returned to the people.

    The solution is emigration.


  • #26
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Another interesting comment on that article:

    "This is part of a planned and manufactured CRISIS using a pandemic. Western governments have been compromised by placemen installed by the globalist cabal. They are using COVID19 in an old socialist style tactic for DEMORALISATION AND DESTABILISATION. It involves the DIGITISATION of everyone on the planet by using mandatory vaccines with certification (COVI-PASS and ID2020). The agenda is TOTALITARIANISM to achieve UN AGENDA 21 for redistribution of wealth and FORCED reduction in global CO2 by eco-FASCISM (using LOCKDOWNS/FEAR). They will impose a new DIGITAL CRYPTO currency on the world, controlled by them (their GLOBAL RESET). The NORMALISATION stage (their New Normal) will include future monitoring of all using 5G social credit monitoring and more RESTRICTIONS as they see fit. Their grip on our freedoms will only get stronger unless we reject it. Please research, study, inform and warn your family and friends we have to REJECT THIS or our children's future is at risk."

    Is he wrong as well?


  • #27
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Another interesting comment on that article:

    "This is part of a planned and manufactured CRISIS using a pandemic. Western governments have been compromised by placemen installed by the globalist cabal. They are using COVID19 in an old socialist style tactic for DEMORALISATION AND DESTABILISATION. It involves the DIGITISATION of everyone on the planet by using mandatory vaccines with certification (COVI-PASS and ID2020). The agenda is TOTALITARIANISM to achieve UN AGENDA 21 for redistribution of wealth and FORCED reduction in global CO2 by eco-FASCISM (using LOCKDOWNS/FEAR). They will impose a new DIGITAL CRYPTO currency on the world, controlled by them (their GLOBAL RESET). The NORMALISATION stage (their New Normal) will include future monitoring of all using 5G social credit monitoring and more RESTRICTIONS as they see fit. Their grip on our freedoms will only get stronger unless we reject it. Please research, study, inform and warn your family and friends we have to REJECT THIS or our children's future is at risk."

    Is he wrong as well?

    Yes.


  • #28
    bobbyy gee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    Pulling rabbits out of a hat

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816


  • #29
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    bobbyy gee wrote: »
    Pulling rabbits out of a hat

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816

    He addresses that article in the following video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnX4nerxXk


  • #30
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yes.

    He sounds pretty sure.


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  • #31
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    He sounds pretty sure.

    Alex Jones always sounded "pretty sure", would you believe anything he says?


  • #32
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Alex Jones always sounded "pretty sure", would you believe anything he says?

    Funny enough, one often reads, in comments' section of Youtube videos about COVID-19, comments such as "Alex Jones was right", or "Alex Jones has been saying all of this for years".


  • #33
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Funny enough, one often reads, in comments' section of Youtube videos about COVID-19, comments such as "Alex Jones was right", or "Alex Jones has been saying all of this for years".

    But Alex Jones admitted himself that his show was only for "entertainment", He admits himself that he made things up because he was an "entertainer".


  • #34
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    But Alex Jones admitted himself that his show was only for "entertainment", He admits himself that he made things up because he was an "entertainer".

    Did he? I didn't know that. He never mentioned that when he was on with Joe Rogan.


  • #35
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Did he? I didn't know that. He never mentioned that when he was on with Joe Rogan.

    My apologies, not an entertainer but a "performance artist"

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html%3famp
    InfoWars' Alex Jones is a 'performance artist playing a character', says his lawyer


  • #36
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Funny enough, one often reads, in comments' section of Youtube videos about COVID-19, comments such as "Alex Jones was right", or "Alex Jones has been saying all of this for years".

    Yeaaaahh, I think you're taking the mick here :)


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  • #37
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yeaaaahh, I think you're taking the mick here :)

    Here are a few comments on the Joe Rogan and Alex Jones interview:

    "everything he’s talking about is literally happening"

    "Dude im telling you, Alex Jones might be fried but alot of what he says is spot on."

    "AND ITS SCARY HOW CLOSE AJ GETS WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF> JUST LOOK AT 2020 ITS ALL TRUE. OUCH"


  • #38
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Here are a few comments on the Joe Rogan and Alex Jones interview:

    "everything he’s talking about is literally happening"

    "Dude im telling you, Alex Jones might be fried but alot of what he says is spot on."

    "AND ITS SCARY HOW CLOSE AJ GETS WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF> JUST LOOK AT 2020 ITS ALL TRUE. OUCH"

    Comments = evidence :pac:


  • #39
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Comments = evidence :pac:

    Not evidence. Just people who are looking at what's going on and remembering that Alex Jones said that all of what's going on would happen.


  • #40
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Not evidence. Just people who are looking at what's going on and remembering that Alex Jones said that all of what's going on would happen.

    I think this is a bit of a spiel but anyway

    Alex Jones is in court for claiming that relatives of slain children from the Sandy Hook shooting massacre were actors. Which he carried on with for years. These family members were harassed by conspiracy theorists, some had to move house multiple times, couldn't visit their children's graves, etc. When legal action appeared he admitted it was a lie and that the shootings were real. He's a real piece of ****.


  • #41
    I see sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Says it all. And still people believe him and the government and obediently wear the muzzle.

    More from the people behind Agenda 21:

    “If we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecology sound society under socialism...

    I agree with nearly all those quotes, what's the problem with them?


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  • #42
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    I see sheep wrote: »
    I agree with nearly all those quotes, what's the problem with them?

    I don't know. When I think of socialism Venezuela comes to mind.


  • #43
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    I see sheep wrote: »
    I agree with nearly all those quotes, what's the problem with them?
    Surely there is only on fire way to 'save the world, ecologically'

    It isn't simply a socio-economic model factor. The only way to achieve it (in this short window of opportunity), is best not to mention (see thread title).

    Some would argue that some type of WW3 is inevitable, perhaps it is, with China growing into an all powerful Dragon, that would reduce populations, and thus some areas of the environment.

    The big problem with that is many fields would no longer produce safe to eat foodstuffs for many years after. All the billionaires seem to have bunkers in NZ these days, perhaps that's an option. Much of S.America would also be unscaved.


  • #44
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »
    Surely there is only on fire way to 'save the world, ecologically'

    It isn't simply a socio-economic model factor. The only way to achieve it (in this short window of opportunity), is best not to mention (see thread title).

    Some would argue that some type of WW3 is inevitable, perhaps it is, with China growing into an all powerful Dragon, that would reduce populations, and thus some areas of the environment.

    The big problem with that is many fields would no longer produce safe to eat foodstuffs for many years after. All the billionaires seem to have bunkers in NZ these days, perhaps that's an option. Much of S.America would also be unscaved.

    Totally normal to have a great reset for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. How nice of the Davos crowd to decide for the world that a reset is needed (without asking the world, of course).

    How convenient that a virus comes along to destroy the global economy to enable them to pursue their reset. How convenient that MIT knew in March that the world would not go back to normal. But somehow we're conspiracy theorists for being a bit suspicious.


  • #45
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Charles calling for the economy to be "reset" today to be "sustainable and inclusive". Agendas 21 and 2030.


  • #46
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Charles calling for the economy to be "reset" today to be "sustainable and inclusive". Agendas 21 and 2030.

    Thats a great trolling style you've developed this time around, irritating to read and draws a lot of replies but nothing that will get you banned, I'd say you'll be able to ride this one for a good long while.


  • #47
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Charles calling for the economy to be "reset" today to be "sustainable and inclusive". Agendas 21 and 2030.
    He warned the impact of climate change will "dwarf" coronavirus, and called for "swift (and immediate)" action. Also uses the now familar term 'short window of opportunity'.
    All sounds a bit like making an 'opportunity out of a crisis' does it not?

    Let's not forget, in 1988, the Duke of Edinburgh joked about deadly viruses when speaking to Deutsche Press Agentur. Prince Philip reportedly said:
    “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”
    This was just a bit of light hearted banter, apparently.


  • #48
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »
    He warned the impact of climate change will "dwarf" coronavirus, and called for "swift (and immediate)" action. Also uses the now familar term 'short window of opportunity'.
    All sounds a bit like making an 'opportunity out of a crisis' does it not?

    Let's not forget, in 1988, the Duke of Edinburgh joked about deadly viruses when speaking to Deutsche Press Agentur. Prince Philip reportedly said:

    This was just a bit of light hearted banter, apparently.

    Charles is at the forefront of WEF's Great Reset, so it's not surprising that he's speaking of a "short window of opportunity". The Secretary-General of the UN, António Guterres, another reset man, recently declared that the pandemic had exposed the evils of the patriarchy. Funny he hasn't reisgned and stepped aside to allow a woman to take over. One rule for thee ...

    The amazing thing about all of this is how open they're being. They're telling the world what they're planning to do and people still carry on as though there's nothing sinister afoot.

    One hears talk of "Build Back Better" in different parts of the world. So that's "build back better", "we're all in this together", "new normal" and "a short window of opportunity". Almost as though they're reading from a script.

    But let's keep worrying about cases, about the importance of healthy people getting tested, and adding to the 15% unemployment rate. Don't be surprised if it hits 30% soon.


  • #49
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »
    He warned the impact of climate change will "dwarf" coronavirus, and called for "swift (and immediate)" action. Also uses the now familar term 'short window of opportunity'.
    All sounds a bit like making an 'opportunity out of a crisis' does it not?

    Let's not forget, in 1988, the Duke of Edinburgh joked about deadly viruses when speaking to Deutsche Press Agentur. Prince Philip reportedly said:

    This was just a bit of light hearted banter, apparently.

    you think he was foreshadowing covid 32 years in advance? or maybe he was just talking his usual ****e. I worry about somebody who puts too much credence on the words of some who says stuff like:


    1966: "British women can't cook".

    1969: "What do you gargle with, pebbles?" To Sir Tom Jones after a Royal Variety Performance.

    1981: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed." During the 1981 recession.

    1984: "You are a woman, aren't you?" In Kenya after accepting a small gift from a local woman.

    1986: "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed." To a group of British students during a royal visit to China.

    1988: "It looks like a tart's bedroom." On seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park.

    1992: "Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." In Australia when asked to stroke a koala.

    1993: "You can't have been here that long, you haven't got a pot belly". To a Briton he met in Hungary.

    1994: "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" To a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands.

    1995: "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test." To a Scottish driving instructor.

    1996: "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" In response to calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting.

    1997: "Bloody silly fool!" Referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him.

    1999: "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." Speaking to a group of young deaf people in Cardiff who were standing near a steel band.

    1999: "It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." Referring to an old-fashioned fuse box in a factory near Edinburgh.

    2001: "You're too fat to be an astronaut." To 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Prince Philip he wanted to go into space.

    2002: "Still throwing spears?" Question put to an Australian Aborigine during a visit.

    2002: "You look like a suicide bomber." To a young policewoman wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis.

    2009: "There's a lot of your family in tonight." After looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians.

    2009: "Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" To designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard.

    2010: "Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" To Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie Pointing while pointing to some tartan in Edinburgh.

    2010: "Do you work in a strip club?" To 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub.

    2012: "I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." To 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent.

    2013: "The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." On meeting a Filipino nurse at Luton and Dunstable Hospital.

    2013: "[Children] go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." To Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban and now campaigns for the right of girls to go to school without fear.

    2017: "You look starved." To a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men.


  • #50
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you think he was foreshadowing covid 32 years in advance? or maybe he was just talking his usual ****e. I worry about somebody who puts too much credence on the words of some who says stuff like:


    1966: "British women can't cook".

    1969: "What do you gargle with, pebbles?" To Sir Tom Jones after a Royal Variety Performance.

    1981: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed." During the 1981 recession.

    1984: "You are a woman, aren't you?" In Kenya after accepting a small gift from a local woman.

    1986: "If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed." To a group of British students during a royal visit to China.

    1988: "It looks like a tart's bedroom." On seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park.

    1992: "Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." In Australia when asked to stroke a koala.

    1993: "You can't have been here that long, you haven't got a pot belly". To a Briton he met in Hungary.

    1994: "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" To a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands.

    1995: "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test." To a Scottish driving instructor.

    1996: "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" In response to calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting.

    1997: "Bloody silly fool!" Referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him.

    1999: "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." Speaking to a group of young deaf people in Cardiff who were standing near a steel band.

    1999: "It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." Referring to an old-fashioned fuse box in a factory near Edinburgh.

    2001: "You're too fat to be an astronaut." To 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Prince Philip he wanted to go into space.

    2002: "Still throwing spears?" Question put to an Australian Aborigine during a visit.

    2002: "You look like a suicide bomber." To a young policewoman wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis.

    2009: "There's a lot of your family in tonight." After looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians.

    2009: "Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" To designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard.

    2010: "Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" To Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie Pointing while pointing to some tartan in Edinburgh.

    2010: "Do you work in a strip club?" To 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub.

    2012: "I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." To 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent.

    2013: "The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." On meeting a Filipino nurse at Luton and Dunstable Hospital.

    2013: "[Children] go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." To Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban and now campaigns for the right of girls to go to school without fear.

    2017: "You look starved." To a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men.

    While he has come out with a few clangers, as you've outlined, he's undoubtedly a very powerful and influential man.


  • #51
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    While he has come out with a few clangers, as you've outlined, he's undoubtedly a very powerful and influential man.

    a man who has to walk a few steps behind his wife is not a very powerful and influential man.


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