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Dr Vernon Coleman: They want to kill 6 Bn of us, enslave us [Covid-19]

Dionaibh

Has anybody here heard Dr Vernon Coleman's thoughts on COVID-19? I don't know much about Dr Coleman, but I watched a few of his videos on YouTube.

Here are a couple of videos I watched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K66EDRFvEUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHV2wHH-IVk

Dr Coleman has been speaking out against lockdowns, social distancing and masks for months.

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4068ac1elhodqr

Haven't heard of the chap before, but seems he's already sold 2m+ health-realted books in the uk across the last 30yrs or so, and as had list of glowing testimonials on his website (although his own personal site is rather amateur looking to say the least).

A video of a chap in a chair, really isn't the correct media approach for such vblogs, unless there's information graphics, animations and so on to be used.

A googlebot (well...rather a 'Bing', as google is now asking everyday to accept their ad settings) leads to a (4.6*) Podcast: some chap that claims to be the largest indie news show in Europe. And the (very recent) Vernon one 14th Sept registers as perhaps the most popular show he's over done (a bog accept chap {R'Allen} based in Salford). It's a bit too long to listen to it all, or even most, but the presenter style is perhaps more skilled and humourous than his very initial impression might give.

Be warned however, there is also a lot (most of it really) of 'common sense' sprinkled in, which really isn't ideal during this/any state of pandemic panic.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-richie-allen-show/id1090284266

Dohnjoe

He's a complete moonbat, fraud, aids-denier and anti-vaxxer who has been "has been censured by the Press Complaints Commission and banned by the Advertising Standards Authority." and has had material removed/banned from social media

Here's an overview
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816/an-old-man-in-a-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

He's a complete moonbat, fraud, aids-denier and anti-vaxxer who has been "has been censured by the Press Complaints Commission and banned by the Advertising Standards Authority." and has had material removed/banned from social media

Here's an overview
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816/an-old-man-in-a-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths

He addresses that article in the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnX4nerxXk

Dionaibh

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/everything-that-has-happened-was-meant-to-happen_YzirTosrfBeJD65.html

Parabellum9

I think he might be just a tiny bit senile.

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

He addresses that article in the following video:

He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.

He says in his latest video that the reason for the pandemic is to implement Agenda 21 and that Goldman Sachs told WHO to force people to wear muzzles.

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

He says in his latest video that the reason for the pandemic is to implement Agenda 21 and that Goldman Sachs told WHO to force people to wear muzzles.

Indeed and Alex Jones says something different, and another conspiracy theorist says something else, and another one has a slightly different take, for another conspiracy theorist it's all a plan by the UN, for yet another it's a massive secret plan by certain pharmaceutical companies, the Jews, 5G, Bill Gates, Chinese lab, US experimentation, etc, etc, etc..

You get to take your pick and that becomes the "truth". This man is no different from some flat earther - both are selling bull****, just slightly different audiences.

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Indeed and Alex Jones says something different, and another conspiracy theorist says something else, and another one has a slightly different take, for another conspiracy theorist it's all a plan by the UN, for yet another it's a massive secret plan by certain pharmaceutical companies, the Jews, 5G, Bill Gates, Chinese lab, US experimentation, etc, etc, etc..

You get to take your pick and that becomes the "truth". This man is no different from some flat earther - both are selling bull****, just slightly different audiences.

I'm watching his latest video. He says that mask wearers are "sleepwalking to their death".

He's going to write a book about Agenda 21.

In the following video about Agenda 21 people quote from the document: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

Did they make quotes up?

washman3

Dohnjoe wrote: »

He's another snake-oil salesman who sells convenient conspiracy ideas to paranoid people. It's a lucrative industry as we know. He's well-spoken and a qualified doctor, so that works in his favor.

Just like 'professor' Luke O'Neill so..??
And Luke has now become the RTE 'poster boy' for information on the virus.
Only a short while back he slated healthy people for wearing masks (Late Late Show) saying these type of people were watching too many horror movies..!!!

Dionaibh

An old article about Agenda 21: https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/14/the-u-n-s-earth-summit-has-its-head-in-the-clouds/#66cdeb5187ca

What do you make of the following quotes from the article:

"Earth Summit chairman Maurice Strong left no doubt about where to place blame for global problems, stating in the conference report: "It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class…involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, golf courses, small electric appliances, home and work place air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable…A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.""

"Addressing the Summit audience, Strong also suggested a primary remedy, whereby: We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse." Former Senator Timothy Wirth, representing the Clinton-Gore administration as undersecretary of state for global affairs, stated that public concern about global warming could be used to advance that cause: "We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy." Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which has lobbied for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change."

"The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism. If this sounds a bit like conspiratorial paranoia, let's review some words spoken by then-President Jacques Chirac of France in a 2000 speech supporting a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective: "For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environment Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established."

4068ac1elhodqr

You'd likey trust Dr.Coleman a bit more than the actual proper moonbat and snakeoil backed (most likely Pharma paid for) chap: Professor Neil Ferguson
Sure Ferguson hasn't got a prediction even close in 10yrs, from BSE/CJD/Swine/F&M/Covid, all hugely over-estimated to assist his ICL sponsors.

The BBC of course had the (discredited, and poorly looking) Ferg' on their news channel today, for his 'advice'.
Sure he had to quit as a government {author of apocalyptic modeling} advisor, yet is still giving out advice on semi-state TV.
They should have given him some advice instead:
Don't go swinging and driving up the country (to someone elses wife, a possible STI risk), and all during peak phase lockdown.

Dionaibh

Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »

You'd likey trust Dr.Coleman a bit more than the actual proper moonbat and snakeoil backed (most likely Pharma paid for) chap: Professor Neil Ferguson
Sure Ferguson hasn't got a prediction even close in 10yrs, from BSE/CJD/Swine/F&M/Covid, all hugely over-estimated to assist his ICL sponsors.

The BBC of course had the (discredited, and poorly looking) Ferg' on their news channel today, for his 'advice'.
Sure he had to quit as a government {author of apocalyptic modeling} advisor, yet is still giving out advice on semi-state TV.
They should have given him some advice instead:
Don't go swinging and driving up the country (to someone elses wife, a possible STI risk), and all during peak phase lockdown.

Says it all. And still people believe him and the government and obediently wear the muzzle.

More from the people behind Agenda 21:

“If we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecology sound society under socialism. I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism.” Judi Bari (Earth First)

“We must make this place an insecure and inhospitable place for Capitalists and their projects – we must reclaim the roads and plowed lands, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres or presently settled land.” Dave Foreman, Earth First

“Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective.” Harvey Ruvin, Vice Chairman, ICLEI, The Wildlands Project

“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Earth Summit, 1992

“Land…cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth, therefore contributes to social injustice.” The Local Agenda 21 Planning Guide, published by ICLEI, 1996

“The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.” Michael Oppenheimer (Environmental Defence Fund)

“The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable, indeed a sacred principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperations.” UN Commission on Global Governance.

“Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance as a means to solving otherwise unmanageable crises.” Lester Brown (WorldWatchInstitute)

“Regionalism must precede globalism. We foresee a seamless system of governance from local communities, individual states, regional unions and up through to the United Nations itself.” UN Commission on Global Governance

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

I'm watching his latest video. He says that mask wearers are "sleepwalking to their death".

He's going to write a book about Agenda 21.

In the following video about Agenda 21 people quote from the document: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

Did they make quotes up?

It's nonsense

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's nonsense

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/23/fact-check-uns-agenda-21-2030-agenda-wont-create-new-world-order/5474884002/

But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

Agenda 21/2030 sounds nice, but the quotes I posted tell a different story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnyj258IarU

What are your thoughts on that video?

[Deleted User]

Dionaibh wrote: »

But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

Agenda 21/2030 sounds nice, but the quotes I posted tell a different story.

But it's the same kinda stuff you've been doing for other things.
They are totally innocent quotes you are taking out of context to make them sound sinister.

Again, you are deciding these are sinister even though you're not able to explain why.

Again, you should stop reading things from the internet cause you don't seem to know how to properly process them.

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

But look at the quotes from people who were involved with Agenda 21. The ones I posted above.

The "quotes" are out of context. This concept has been explained to you in a previous post here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114590578&postcount=40

I have provided a link that fact-checks this Agenda 21 conspiracy stuff. Here is another straight-forward explainer: https://www.splcenter.org/20140331/agenda-21-un-sustainability-and-right-wing-conspiracy-theory

If you want to ignore the facts, and believe in this conspiracy, no one can help you with that, that's your choice

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The "quotes" are out of context. This concept has been explained to you in a previous post here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114590578&postcount=40

I have provided a link that fact-checks this Agenda 21 conspiracy stuff. Here is another straight-forward explainer: https://www.splcenter.org/20140331/agenda-21-un-sustainability-and-right-wing-conspiracy-theory

If you want to ignore the facts, and believe in this conspiracy, no one can help you with that, that's your choice

I read that report from The Southern Poverty Law Center, an extreme left wing organisation, a few months ago. SPLC is not an impartial source.

"The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism."

What context can make that okay? I accept that I was wrong about the 'global surveillance' in the book on The Great Reset.

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

"The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform to enable the U.N. to advance large philosophical visions, wealth redistribution agendas, and world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism."

What context can make that okay?

Simple

"The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform": Global climate change has given us a basis (a platform) to take global action.

"Wealth redistribution agendas": Income equality, reducing the gap between rich and poor. Standard economic goals.

"world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism": Leadership making decisions based on protecting the environment.

I accept that I was wrong about the 'global surveillance' in the book on The Great Reset.

Is someone supposed to explain every line in every one of these books and documents for you? The issue is your paranoid interpretation of standard books/documents all of which is fuelled by extreme conspiracy sites and pundits

4068ac1elhodqr

Isn't the simple truth that the (all x20) important UN sustainability targets (set in 2010) can't be met, not in 2015, not now in 2020 (as proven last week)
...and likely not any by 2020, 2025 and so on.

The only way they can all be met, in what the WEF/Davos {The Great Reset 2021}, call a 'short window of opportunity' is through dramatic sudden changes.
Perhaps addressing an already overpopulated world is one viewpoint considered.

Even family planning and normal interventions won't prevent e.g. The continent of Africa to double it's entire population by 2050^.
With widespread fammines: crop failures likely, thus wars and internal conflicts there, their 2.5bn will become the single biggest issue for the EU's 500m in/before 2050.

^According to UN estimates, the population of Africa may reach 2.5 billion by 2050 (about 26% of the world's total) and nearly 4.5 billion by 2100 (about 40% of the world's total). Sep 5 2019

Dohnjoe

Avalyn Unimportant Trader wrote: »

Isn't the simple truth that the (all x20) important UN sustainability targets (set in 2010) can't be met, not in 2015, not now in 2020 (as proven last week)
...and likely not any by 2020, 2025 and so on.

The only way they can all be met, in what the WEF/Davos {The Great Reset 2021}, call a 'short window of opportunity' is through dramatic sudden changes.
Perhaps addressing an already overpopulated world is one viewpoint considered.

Even family planning and normal interventions won't prevent e.g. The continent of Africa to double it's entire population by 2050^.
With widespread fammines: crop failures likely, thus wars and internal conflicts there, their 2.5bn will become the single biggest issue for the EU's 500m in/before 2050.

^According to UN estimates, the population of Africa may reach 2.5 billion by 2050 (about 26% of the world's total) and nearly 4.5 billion by 2100 (about 40% of the world's total). Sep 5 2019

I don't even know what you are writing about. Is there a conspiracy?

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Simple

"The global warming rubric has served as an ideal platform": Global climate change has given us a basis (a platform) to take global action.

"Wealth redistribution agendas": Income equality, reducing the gap between rich and poor. Standard economic goals.

"world governance goals under the banner of environmentalism": Leadership making decisions based on protecting the environment.

Is someone supposed to explain every line in every one of these books and documents for you? The issue is your paranoid interpretation of standard books/documents all of which is fuelled by extreme conspiracy sites and pundits

Thanks. Good explanation.

I read the following comment on an article in the Daile Mail:

"ALL about control! This has NOTHING to do with a virus. It's a global economy reset together with the introduction of an authoritarian state. Look at the rights and freedoms which every person has had STOLEN from them since January. You realise they won't be returned, don't you??"

He seems to be certain that that's what's going on.

Dohnjoe

Dionaibh wrote: »

Thanks. Good explanation.

I read the following comment on an article in the Daile Mail:

"ALL about control! This has NOTHING to do with a virus. It's a global economy reset together with the introduction of an authoritarian state. Look at the rights and freedoms which every person has had STOLEN from them since January. You realise they won't be returned, don't you??"

He seems to be certain that that's what's going on.

Yup, sounds very certain so it must be true. I guess your only choice now is do you capitulate with our new authoritarian state overlords, or do you join the resistance against them?

Dionaibh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yup, sounds very certain so it must be true. I guess your only choice now is do you capitulate with our new authoritarian state overlords, or do you join the resistance against them?

He has a point about the stolen freedoms. No sign of them ever being returned to the people.

The solution is emigration.

Dionaibh

Another interesting comment on that article:

"This is part of a planned and manufactured CRISIS using a pandemic. Western governments have been compromised by placemen installed by the globalist cabal. They are using COVID19 in an old socialist style tactic for DEMORALISATION AND DESTABILISATION. It involves the DIGITISATION of everyone on the planet by using mandatory vaccines with certification (COVI-PASS and ID2020). The agenda is TOTALITARIANISM to achieve UN AGENDA 21 for redistribution of wealth and FORCED reduction in global CO2 by eco-FASCISM (using LOCKDOWNS/FEAR). They will impose a new DIGITAL CRYPTO currency on the world, controlled by them (their GLOBAL RESET). The NORMALISATION stage (their New Normal) will include future monitoring of all using 5G social credit monitoring and more RESTRICTIONS as they see fit. Their grip on our freedoms will only get stronger unless we reject it. Please research, study, inform and warn your family and friends we have to REJECT THIS or our children's future is at risk."

Is he wrong as well?

Timberrrrrrrr

Dionaibh wrote: »

Another interesting comment on that article:

"This is part of a planned and manufactured CRISIS using a pandemic. Western governments have been compromised by placemen installed by the globalist cabal. They are using COVID19 in an old socialist style tactic for DEMORALISATION AND DESTABILISATION. It involves the DIGITISATION of everyone on the planet by using mandatory vaccines with certification (COVI-PASS and ID2020). The agenda is TOTALITARIANISM to achieve UN AGENDA 21 for redistribution of wealth and FORCED reduction in global CO2 by eco-FASCISM (using LOCKDOWNS/FEAR). They will impose a new DIGITAL CRYPTO currency on the world, controlled by them (their GLOBAL RESET). The NORMALISATION stage (their New Normal) will include future monitoring of all using 5G social credit monitoring and more RESTRICTIONS as they see fit. Their grip on our freedoms will only get stronger unless we reject it. Please research, study, inform and warn your family and friends we have to REJECT THIS or our children's future is at risk."

Is he wrong as well?

Yes.

bobbyy gee

Pulling rabbits out of a hat

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816

Dionaibh

bobbyy gee wrote: »

Pulling rabbits out of a hat

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1941816

He addresses that article in the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnX4nerxXk

Dionaibh

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Yes.

He sounds pretty sure.

Timberrrrrrrr

Dionaibh wrote: »

He sounds pretty sure.

Alex Jones always sounded "pretty sure", would you believe anything he says?