Administrative Officers 2019 in Revenue - Audit and Compliance

doc22 · 11-10-2020 1:19pm

AtticusFinch86 wrote: »

Anyone know what exactly the training involves. I've only applied for Donegal office so very unlikely to get a job. However I'm curious about

1. Nature and location of training
2. Duration of training
3. Support available in terms of reimbursements

I've heard varying reports on all above items

I would also hope that, given the current climate, majority of training could be performed remotely

AO have relevant degrees so formal training won't be given initially, unlike EOs and HEO's and AP promoted from other departments who have 2 years ITI training/diploma from the off

AtticusFinch86 · 14-10-2020 11:10am

Just finished my interview. Certainly more difficult than I was expecting. I thoguh I'd be asked very open questions to display certain competencies that would allow me to give any example that highlighted the competency. And I prepared for that. A lot of my examples were irrelevant because of the specific phrasing of the question.

However i found it to be much more specific. For example, i had mentioned in the interview that i was recently promoted and quite a few questions drew from this e.g. tell us how your promotion changed how you interact and communicate. This was very difficult to answer as my day to day job was largely unchanged with some exceptions.

Board were very good and helpful in trying to draw out answers but Imust say it was a challenge. There were at least 3 questions I could not give examples of so quite disappointed. Glad it's all done and dusted though. I'm hopeful of qualifying for the board but I certainly don't expect a high placing

14-10-2020 11:37am

I did my Interview Monday & your response sums up my own experience.

Felt very complex questions asked & the board didn't really ask much about my specific example, they used the outline of examples given in the A part of the Competency & zoned in very much on little details here.

The board were very nice & helpful but very intense & tough questions.
Mine lasted nearly 50 minutes, longest Interview I have ever done. I also had 2-3 questions I couldn't answer so your not alone with that.

Glad it's over, best of luck to everyone who has the interview still to come & best wishes with results to everyone in general.

Galantis · 14-10-2020 2:23pm

It really sounds like they have increased the intensity of the interviews since week 1. Well done on getting through them and best of luck with the results

Madamhindsight · 14-10-2020 7:11pm

3002 wrote: »

I did my Interview Monday & your response sums up my own experience.

Felt very complex questions asked & the board didn't really ask much about my specific example, they used the outline of examples given in the A part of the Competency & zoned in very much on little details here.

The board were very nice & helpful but very intense & tough questions.
Mine lasted nearly 50 minutes, longest Interview I have ever done. I also had 2-3 questions I couldn't answer so your not alone with that.

Glad it's over, best of luck to everyone who has the interview still to come & best wishes with results to everyone in general.

Totally felt the same. Very much focused on the experience example section. Intense for sure!

Ollie321 · 14-10-2020 8:00pm

Does anyone know how many came of each panel last year ie how many were appointed from tax/accounting/data/law? All I can find is that 77 AO's were recruited.

doc22 · 14-10-2020 8:30pm

Ollie321 wrote: »

Does anyone know how many came of each panel last year ie how many were appointed from tax/accounting/data/law? All I can find is that 77 AO's were recruited.

Many of that 77 were taken from PAS open and Revenue AO IT panels too. I'd guess it was something like 35 tax/Acc, 5 data and 5 law, 20 IT and remainder from PAS open panels(gen/fin/econ panel) 13ish. But outside of Dublin and Limerick I can't see anything but AO Tax/Acc placements(I'm open to correction) the other work isn't really based in regions(the few exceptions have little turnover in staff)

barneystinson · 15-10-2020 9:05am

Ollie321 wrote: »

Does anyone know how many came of each panel last year ie how many were appointed from tax/accounting/data/law? All I can find is that 77 AO's were recruited.

There's very little benefit in looking at things like that to try to guess what's going to happen with future panels. It's entirely dependent on what vacancies arise over the life of the panel. What can / will happen with recruitment from this competition will be heavily influenced by Covid and Brexit.

Pogue eile · 15-10-2020 10:32am

barneystinson wrote: »

There's very little benefit in looking at things like that to try to guess what's going to happen with future panels. It's entirely dependent on what vacancies arise over the life of the panel. What can / will happen with recruitment from this competition will be heavily influenced by Covid and Brexit.

Correct and it should also be noted that there has been a much higher number of retirements in the last number of weeks and this will continue for the rest of this year - a number of factors have contributed to this including a massive recruitment campaign exactly 40 years ago and the 2% restoration which became payable on 1 Oct.

While it is unlikely that any of these retirees were at AO level there is a massive knock on effect from AP/PO retirements.

Galantis · 15-10-2020 11:01pm

Is this week the last week of interviews or is there more next week?

redbarndoor · 16-10-2020 7:14am

I think the last interviews will be held on Monday next. Definitely a very chellenging interview!

16-10-2020 7:06pm

Galantis wrote: »

Is this week the last week of interviews or is there more next week?

Nearly sure someone mentioned on this thread earlier that they had an Interview on Monday 19th & someone else tried to change their interview to later in the month & they were only allowed to push it out to the end of this wk so thinking nxt Monday the last lot.

Anonire · 20-10-2020 1:42pm

Have the interview finished up. Hopefully we will have results in the next couple of weeks. Best of luck everyone.

monkeylover10 · 22-10-2020 12:10am

Anonire wrote: »

Have the interview finished up. Hopefully we will have results in the next couple of weeks. Best of luck everyone.

Hopefully, I see on the 2018 AO thread that interviews were done by 30/01/19, results out on 04/02/19 & offers made on 08/02/19. May not be as quick for this one, if going by all the other stages of the competition!!

Are interviews definitely over since Monday?

Rikand · 22-10-2020 1:03am

I had my interview on tuesday. I found it much tougher than the 2018 one. Doubt I'll be getting through

Rikand · 22-10-2020 1:10am

At one point, i asked them to rephrase a question 3 or 4 times and i still had no answer. Just felt like I couldn't get up a head of steam with it at all.

redbarndoor · 22-10-2020 7:22am

Take comfort from the fact that everyone found the interview very tough - definitely the most intense that I've ever done. They seemed nice / fair people though and they'll know that everyone found it really challenging. Hopefully we get the results one way or the other soon.

Anonire · 22-10-2020 9:54am

Rikand wrote: »

At one point, i asked them to rephrase a question 3 or 4 times and i still had no answer. Just felt like I couldn't get up a head of steam with it at all.

I had the same. Its only one question out of many. You never know.not all but alot of people had the same feedback if this thread is anything to go by they can't fail everyone surely.

Madamhindsight · 22-10-2020 10:15am

Anonire wrote: »

I had the same. Its only one question out of many. You never know.not all but alot of people had the same feedback if this thread is anything to go by they can't fail everyone surely.

Very true. I haven't heard many who have said it was an easy interview and they have to take this into account along with the current covid situation.

Galantis · 22-10-2020 9:12pm

Madamhindsight wrote: »

Very true. I haven't heard many who have said it was an easy interview and they have to take this into account along with the current covid situation.

In fairness to them they are usually quick enough to process results

Madamhindsight · 23-10-2020 10:55am

Galantis wrote: »

In fairness to them they are usually quick enough to process results

Ya they are to be fair

AtticusFinch86 · 23-10-2020 1:06pm

When you are on the panel, what exactly is the process for filling job positions.

Would people on panel be invited to interview for a vacancy? Or would you simply be offered the job?

I assume a number of candidates would be invited to apply to a vacancy and then interviewed? If so, is the interview likely to be similar to recent Skype interview?

West17 · 23-10-2020 1:17pm

We have done the final interview so if you are on the panel and they get to your number and location you will be offered the position

Galantis · 27-10-2020 6:38pm

Hopefully we hear this week

StevenToast · 27-10-2020 8:05pm

Hopefully

monkeylover10 · 27-10-2020 9:16pm

Hopefully &#55357;&#56833;

Rikand · 28-10-2020 11:02am

hopefully :pac::pac:

Anonire · 28-10-2020 12:30pm

Any internal applicants have an update? Think there is some system where you can see the status saw it mentioned on a different thread a while back?

Hopefully they will put us out of our misery soon either way.

Best of luck everyone.

Galantis · 28-10-2020 12:35pm

Anonire wrote: »

Any internal applicants have an update? Think there is some system where you can see the status saw it mentioned on a different thread a while back?

Hopefully they will put us out of our misery soon either way.

Best of luck everyone.

The only note after the competition name is results of interview to be issued. That is only telling you the stage they are at but not giving a timeframe ie interviews have been completed.

Anonire · 28-10-2020 12:44pm

Galantis wrote: »

The only note after the competition name is results of interview to be issued. That is only telling you the stage they are at but not giving a timeframe ie interviews have been completed.

Ah thanks for that. Was worth a shot.

emmaneiser · 29-10-2020 5:24pm

Check your emails folks

AtticusFinch86 · 29-10-2020 5:28pm

Roughly how many people would be on a panel? Just placed 26th on accounting panel but no idea if that's likely to lead to an offer ?? I've only applied to one region, which only contains one office (probably a small one at that)

West17 · 29-10-2020 5:32pm

Just got email, didn't get through to panel, congrats to all that did.

emmaneiser · 29-10-2020 5:36pm

Does anyone know how your place on the panel relates to the locations we picked? I thought we'd get placed on each of the different panels but it seems to be one overall panel?

Anonire · 29-10-2020 5:45pm

emmaneiser wrote: »

Does anyone know how your place on the panel relates to the locations we picked? I thought we'd get placed on each of the different panels but it seems to be one overall panel?

If you email panel placing they will give you that info.

Congrats to all getting through. Sorry to those that didn't make it. It's been a long road.

Anonire · 29-10-2020 5:46pm

AtticusFinch86 wrote: »

Roughly how many people would be on a panel? Just placed 26th on accounting panel but no idea if that's likely to lead to an offer ?? I've only applied to one region, which only contains one office (probably a small one at that)

It really depends how you have placed for the county you picked and then if a position comes up. It's a bit of a lottery unfortunately.

Rikand · 29-10-2020 5:54pm

Didnt get through this year. Ah well, always next year. Congrats to all who got through

StevenToast · 29-10-2020 5:59pm

I did not make the cut unfortunately....

Congrats to those that did....you deserve an award for getting this far...

Ollie321 · 29-10-2020 7:08pm

Congratulations to those who passed and commiserations to those who did not, it is a testing process for sure. How long will this panel be active for?

emmaneiser · 29-10-2020 8:50pm

Ollie321 wrote: »

Congratulations to those who passed and commiserations to those who did not, it is a testing process for sure. How long will this panel be active for?

One year from date of formation

29-10-2020 9:55pm

Congrats to all who made their panel & best of luck to us all with the Panel waiting game.

Sorry to those who didn't make a panel. Don't give up on it, the next Revenue AO comp hopefully be opening again end of this yr/start of next yr as this panel is only for a year. The experience ye got will stand to you all in the next comp. Best wishes for the future.

StevenToast · 29-10-2020 10:54pm

3002 wrote: »

Congrats to all who made their panel & best of luck to us all with the Panel waiting game.

Sorry to those who didn't make a panel. Don't give up on it, the next Revenue AO comp hopefully be opening again end of this yr/start of next yr as this panel is only for a year. The experience ye got will stand to you all in the next comp. Best wishes for the future.

Great advice, I will be keenly following this thread to see how all the successful candidates progress...

Best of luck

Just wondering about the feedback that we can get on the unsuccessful interview....what will it look like...just numbers or abit of detail?

Thanks

29-10-2020 11:39pm

StevenToast wrote: »

Great advice, I will be keenly following this thread to see how all the successful candidates progress...

Best of luck

Just wondering about the feedback that we can get on the unsuccessful interview....what will it look like...just numbers or abit of detail?

Thanks

Thanks
Feedback will give you a numerical mark for each of the competencies (normally out of 100) & a few sentences of how you performed overall at the end.
Make sure to look for feedback for both the Video Assessment + Interview as a good learning tool for future Interviews.

Pogue eile · 30-10-2020 11:08am

StevenToast wrote: »

Great advice, I will be keenly following this thread to see how all the successful candidates progress...

Best of luck

Just wondering about the feedback that we can get on the unsuccessful interview....what will it look like...just numbers or abit of detail?

Thanks

As 3002 says it will also give you a narrative on what you did well and where you may have come up short, I would strongly advise all applicants, both successful and unsuccessful, to apply for feedback, it is priceless info on both yourself as an interviewee but also on the mindset of an interview panel and exactly what they pick up on, you literally cannot pay for that kind of insight.

monkeylover10 · 30-10-2020 11:28am

Pogue eile wrote: »

As 3002 says it will also give you a narrative on what you did well and where you may have come up short, I would strongly advise all applicants, both successful and unsuccessful, to apply for feedback, it is priceless info on both yourself as an interviewee but also on the mindset of an interview panel and exactly what they pick up on, you literally cannot pay for that kind of insight.

I agree, I was successful but I have already emailed for feedback. It will interesting to know what they picked up from me, what notes they made & how I was scored.

What happens now, just wait for an email when your chosen location comes up. How do the different panels work? I was successful on 2 & picked 2 locations. Does that mean I have a choice of 4 if offered?

Anonire · 30-10-2020 12:22pm

I've found the written feedback a little generic at times even copy and paste. And also the notes the interviewers have taken haven't always been provided with the feedback. However the numerical feedback is great to even know what areas you have gone down in, and like monkey I would request that regardless of a pass or fail.

Monkey I imagine you will have a different placing on each of the County panels. And whichever one is reached first will be the one you are offered. I don't know how they decide which stream you are chosen off.

BLOSSOM11 · 30-10-2020 12:40pm

Just wondering have they merged the 3 streams into one for the order of merit or are there 3 different panels? Also is the result we received a nationwide wide result? I've emailed the panel email provided but can only imagine they are up the walls busy

Rikand · 30-10-2020 2:47pm

I wont be looking for the feedback, I know where I went down. Just not a fan of video interviews. I feel totally uncomfortable in them and I never do as well on them as I do on an in person one

Anonire · 30-10-2020 4:16pm

BLOSSOM11 wrote: »

Just wondering have they merged the 3 streams into one for the order of merit or are there 3 different panels? Also is the result we received a nationwide wide result? I've emailed the panel email provided but can only imagine they are up the walls busy

I think there is 4 different streams and the oom are for each individual stream. People will have different oom on each stream. I believe the results were overall nationwide.

BLOSSOM11 · 30-10-2020 4:18pm

Anonire wrote: »

I think there is 4 different streams and the oom are for each individual stream. People will have different oom on each stream. I believe the results were overall nationwide.

Thanks for that. Makes sense.

Administrative Officers 2019 in Revenue - Audit and Compliance

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