Kildare GAA General Discussion Thread

klairondavis · 13-05-2013 11:46pm

JTB suffer from having so many players away with the county team. Whoever beats them will win the intermediate championship.

I wouldn't rule Moorefield out of the running in the senior. They are capable of grinding most teams down. I think Sarsfields will miss Gary White the further the championship goes on with Earley looking likely to hang up his boots shortly sadly. Athy are probably worthy favourites now. Celbridge and Larries have the squads to take out one of those three but I'm not sure they can go all the way. Carbury have been in the last two finals but that defeat on Sunday will take some recovering from to say the least!

DARK-KNIGHT · 14-05-2013 12:55am

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

Ah, what happened to Kill Klairondavis?

Huge win for Athy, they've really put down a marker.

hey give kill a break

athy setting massive marker alright..

klairondavis · 17-05-2013 8:47pm

Draw for IFC Rd 2
Losers group:
Kill vs Sallins
Robertstown vs Nurney
Castledermot vs Clogherinkoe
Eadestown vs Kilcullen

Winners group:
Kilcock vs Ballyteague
Rathangan vs Ellistown
Caragh vs Raheens
Johnstownbridge vs Round Towers

Draw for SFC Rd 2
Losers group:
St. Kevins vs Monasterevan
Naas vs Carbury
Ballymore vs Leixlip
Allenwood vs Suncroft

Winners group:
St. Laurences vs Confey
Maynooth vs Clane
Athy vs Sarsfields
Moorefield vs Celbridge

Kinder Bueno · 17-05-2013 8:55pm

I bet you're happy enough with that draw Klairondavis.

Sarsfields v Athy is a tasty fixture.

klairondavis · 17-05-2013 9:15pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

I bet you're happy enough with that draw Klairondavis.

Sarsfields v Athy is a tasty fixture.

Local derby sure. Form book goes out the window!

Athy/Sash definitely the standout tie in the senior championship, JTB/Towers in the intermediate.

klairondavis · 19-05-2013 11:38am

Excellent win for the hurlers down in Arklow yesterday. Through to the semi final now against Kerry.

Minors were predictably well beaten by Kilkenny but hopefully the experience will stand to them in the future.

Kinder Bueno · 19-05-2013 6:46pm

Dermot Earley officially announces his retirement. What a legend he has been! Good luck to him in his future.

DARK-KNIGHT · 19-05-2013 7:16pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

Dermot Earley officially announces his retirement. What a legend he has been! Good luck to him in his future.

What a footballer earley was..

Talking to a few (supporters) :@ earlier and they were slating earley for stepping down FFS that man gave everything he had to Kildare he is an absolute gentleman too. I swiftly told those fair weather fans they had not got a clue what dermot did for the county he is an icon..

Thank you for the memories dermot I wish you well!! And you were a beast at fielding in midfield.

klairondavis · 19-05-2013 8:30pm

The man gave it everything in a white shirt for 16 years. It's been a privilege to have witnessed so many great displays. You could go to the ends of Ireland and not find a nicer man than Dermot. A truly great ambassador for the county.

Lemlin · 19-05-2013 9:36pm

klairondavis wrote: »

The man gave it everything in a white shirt for 16 years. It's been a privilege to have witnessed so many great displays. You could go to the ends of Ireland and not find a nicer man than Dermot. A truly great ambassador for the county.

Well said. It's a great pity he never got his hands on an elusive All Ireland. He is one player who truly deserved it.

Syferus · 19-05-2013 9:50pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Well said. It's a great pity he never got his hands on an elusive All Ireland. He is one player who truly deserved it.

Like father like son. I doubt he'll let it define him.

kencoo · 19-05-2013 11:16pm

Earley will be considered one of the best midfielders kildare have ever had. Its a pity that injury plagued him for the past few years. That said he went through alot of operations and pain just to pull on a white shirt. Lesser men would have thrown in the towel years ago.
I hope that he stays in the kildare set up for the future.

rebel girl 15 · 19-05-2013 11:58pm

Sad to see Earley being forced to retire - read an article about him this week and how the injuries have completely crippled him, so much so that he could hardly walk. Pity he is not ending it on his terms, but thats the way things go unfortunately

qwerty93 · 20-05-2013 9:04am

Hope Dermot mantains a presence in the dressing room, an inspiration to many players on the panel. An absolute gent, I wish him all the best.

celt262 · 20-05-2013 10:00pm

Did Johnston play for St Kevins in Kildare Championship last weekend?

klairondavis · 20-05-2013 10:04pm

celt262 wrote: »

Did Johnston play for St Kevins in Kildare Championship last weekend?

No.

celt262 · 20-05-2013 10:11pm

klairondavis wrote: »

No.

I had heard a story but didn't know if it was true.

Kinder Bueno · 20-05-2013 10:16pm

What was the story?

celt262 · 20-05-2013 10:19pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

What was the story?

That he didn't bother going to the game and just sent a text message to management.

Lemlin · 20-05-2013 10:22pm

klairondavis wrote: »

No.

Very short answer there Klarion. You're usually well informed when it comes to the Kildare GAA scene.

Any truth in this rumour?

Kinder Bueno · 20-05-2013 10:23pm

celt262 wrote: »

That he didn't bother going to the game and just sent a text message to management.

If that's true, it's bad form. He did play a challenge game for Kildare against Waterford last week.

Annddd here comes Mr.Cavan..

klairondavis · 20-05-2013 10:28pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Very short answer there Klarion. You're usually well informed when it comes to the Kildare GAA scene.

Any truth in this rumour?

It wouldn't be a surprise.

At a time when one of our greatest ever servants has retired, I cannot be bothered discussing Seanie Johnston all over again. People have made their beds, they'll have to lie in them now.

Kinder Bueno · 20-05-2013 10:33pm

Great photo here of Earley and McGeeney going at it back in their day.

klairondavis · 20-05-2013 11:04pm

Great photo. The reaction to this announcement shows how the respect for Dermot transcends county rivalries, just like his father. It's a shame we won't see him in a white jersey soaring to the clouds to catch a kickout anymore.

Lemlin · 21-05-2013 12:08am

klairondavis wrote: »

It wouldn't be a surprise.

At a time when one of our greatest ever servants has retired, I cannot be bothered discussing Seanie Johnston all over again. People have made their beds, they'll have to lie in them now.

You seem to hint at some discontent with Johnston's overall attitude?

ProudDUB · 21-05-2013 12:45am

DE was the featured guest on Monday nights Off The Ball. He was on for the first two hours of the show, talking about himself, his recent injury & retirement, and other sporting stories of the day. The podcast should be up on the Newstalk website soon, if its not up already. He acquitted himself well. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets invited back on a more frequent basis. He has a lot more to offer than that Parkinson muppet imo. :rolleyes:

Gaa1 · 21-05-2013 12:57am

Johnston didnt line out in the club championship because of hamstring injury. He also didnt play any part in the challenge match v Galway in moorefield either.
http://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/2013/05/20/good-news-for-geezer-as-injury-worries-ease/ Mcgeeney talks about kildare's injuries including Seanies in this.
Yawn its not 2012 move on.

Kinder Bueno · 21-05-2013 1:06am

ProudDUB wrote: »

DE was the featured guest on Monday nights Off The Ball. He was on for the first two hours of the show, talking about himself, his recent injury & retirement, and other sporting stories of the day. The podcast should be up on the Newstalk website soon, if its not up already. He acquitted himself well. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets invited back on a more frequent basis. He has a lot more to offer than that Parkinson muppet imo. :rolleyes:

I'll look forward to hearing that, never knew he was on. He was on KFM this morning talking about his whole career. I've met him a couple of times and he is a total gent of a man. I really don't get the appeal of Colm Parkinson, the man was never a great footballer, he wouldn't be fit to lace Earley's boots.

KFM interview-http://kildaretoday.podomatic.com/entry/2013-05-20T06_02_06-07_00

Syferus · 21-05-2013 1:07am

Gaa1 wrote: »

Johnston didnt line out in the club championship because of hamstring injury. He also didnt play any part in the challenge match v Galway in moorefield either.
http://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/2013/05/20/good-news-for-geezer-as-injury-worries-ease/ Mcgeeney talks about kildare's injuries including Seanies in this.
Yawn its not 2012 move on.

Is that you, Seanie!?

Anyways, yeah, there's always going to be a lot of black rumours floating around after the whole transfer business so I wouldn't believe much of anything I hear on that front without multiple confirmations.

klairondavis · 21-05-2013 11:13am

I heard Johnston played a half during the challenge match against Waterford at the weekend. His availability for St Kevin's is their business alone but I would suggest they'll need him against Monasterevin or else they will be battling relegation again.

Leper played at centre back which is an interesting and potentially quite positive development. If he could solve that problem position Kildare would be in quite decent shape. Kildare play Roscommon either tonight or tomorrow night. The team captain for the championship will also be revealed before the Offaly match. The captaincy was rotated during the league.

Kinder Bueno · 22-05-2013 9:13pm

Seán Hurley thrown off the Kildare senior panel again it seems.

Lemlin · 22-05-2013 9:56pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

Seán Hurley thrown off the Kildare senior panel again it seems.

Is he the young lad attended Oxegen before?

Kinder Bueno · 22-05-2013 10:11pm

Yes.

klairondavis · 22-05-2013 11:13pm

I'm not sure if he's gone indefinitely.

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 9:45am

klairondavis wrote: »

I heard Johnston played a half during the challenge match against Waterford at the weekend. His availability for St Kevin's is their business alone but I would suggest they'll need him against Monasterevin or else they will be battling relegation again.

Leper played at centre back which is an interesting and potentially quite positive development. If he could solve that problem position Kildare would be in quite decent shape. Kildare play Roscommon either tonight or tomorrow night. The team captain for the championship will also be revealed before the Offaly match. The captaincy was rotated during the league.

You said you wouldn't be surprised if Johnston had shown a poor attitude towards his club though, just wondering was there any reason behind you saying that?

DARK-KNIGHT · 23-05-2013 10:21am

Lemlin wrote: »

You said you wouldn't be surprised if Johnston had shown a poor attitude towards his club though, just wondering was there any reason behind you saying that?

I know a guy in Kevin's and he said he was seriously annoyed over Johnstons availability for Kevin's.

Klairon has a point without Johnston Kevin's will have backs against the wall against monasterevin they are a lovely little footballing outfit.

Last thing we need is more Johnston crap though.

But my opinion is Johnston should have been left where he was. I am seriously against him taking a native Kildare mans spot. Although kavanagh is out this year doesn't matter we should be vetting kildare men for the counties future IMO.

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 10:56am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

I know a guy in Kevin's and he said he was seriously annoyed over Johnstons availability for Kevin's.

Klairon has a point without Johnston Kevin's will have backs against the wall against monasterevin they are a lovely little footballing outfit.

Last thing we need is more Johnston crap though.

But my opinion is Johnston should have been left where he was. I am seriously against him taking a native Kildare mans spot. Although kavanagh is out this year doesn't matter we should be vetting kildare men for the counties future IMO.

Your opinion has changed over the past twelve months then? Last year iirc you proclaimed Johnston a Lily and seemed to think he would be an asset. You also pointed to McGeeney stating Johnston had trained as hard as anyone in the panel.

To be honest, I always had my doubts that McGeeney was blowing smoke into the whole issue with that comment.

There are always going to be problems with a player living such a significant distance from the county.

klairondavis · 23-05-2013 11:30am

I have no idea what Johnston's relationship with St Kevin's is like and it's their own business after all. Their manager was quoted in the local press that he was injured. I saw him play a few matches for them last year and he did not stand out as an inter-county player but I understand he had a good game in the relegation play-off.

As for his involvement with Kildare this summer, I think he will struggle to force his way into the team. Doyle is a certain starter in the full forward line and McGeeney will usually only pick one other inside forward in his teams - Johnston is not able to play a deeper role like many of the other Kildare players. If Smith shows a return to his 2012 form then I expect he will start. Johnston is probably a more accurate point kicker but Smith's workrate is better, he's a better ball winner and he's a greater goal threat.

DARK-KNIGHT · 23-05-2013 11:42am

Lemlin wrote: »

Your opinion has changed over the past twelve months then? Last year iirc you proclaimed Johnston a Lily and seemed to think he would be an asset. You also pointed to McGeeney stating Johnston had trained as hard as anyone in the panel.

To be honest, I always had my doubts that McGeeney was blowing smoke into the whole issue with that comment.

There are always going to be problems with a player living such a significant distance from the county.

Nah my opinion to myself is the same. I bleed white and support the county team either way hence why I was saying seanie is a lily etc.

I know it's straffans business what goes on there but believe me it's not a bed if roses there.

I still don't think seanie has earned a starting place in the side and if smith is sacrificed to play Johnston ill be sick...

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 11:44am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Nah my opinion to myself is the same. I bleed white and support the county team either way hence why I was saying seanie is a lily etc.

I know it's straffans business what goes on there but believe me it's not a bed if roses there.

I still don't think seanie has earned a starting place in the side and if smith is sacrificed to play Johnston ill be sick...

So you portray one opinion on here yet have your own opinion which you keep to yourself? That doesn't really make sense tbh.

Why come onto an internet forum that's about posting your opinions and post an opinion which isn't your true opinion?

DARK-KNIGHT · 23-05-2013 11:48am

Lemlin wrote: »

So you portray one opinion on here yet have your own opinion which you keep to yourself? That doesn't really make sense tbh.

Why come onto an internet forum that's about posting your opinions and post an opinion which isn't your true opinion?

Lemlin I was on a wind up last year because of the whole debacle and this thread being completely derailed with arguments about Johnston.

I'm not discussing this on thread again I am not gonna let this thread be filled with crap again. Tell you what if you wanna discuss anything we have been talking about pm me to be fair to the other users here

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 11:56am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Lemlin I was on a wind up last year because of the whole debacle and this thread being completely derailed with arguments about Johnston.

I'm not discussing this on thread again I am not gonna let this thread be filled with crap again. Tell you what if you wanna discuss anything we have been talking about pm me to be fair to the other users here

I don't think this thread was derailed. There was a separate Johnston thread iirc.

I honestly don't see the issue with the player being discussed. I think you want to move away from the debate because you don't want to admit that you were wrong in your opinion last year.

The argument above you have given makes no sense whatsoever. You're trying to say that you come onto an internet forum, which is about people posting their opinion, and post an opinion which isn't your own?

I'm sure other users may be interested in reading this also. Celt brought up an alleged rumour about Johnston. Now two of you have alluded to Johnston having problems with his club side. If ye didn't want to discuss the issue, why did ye mention it in the first place?

Of course people are going to ask questions when the topic is alluded to. Even above you say "it's straffans business what goes on there but believe me it's not a bed if roses there". Of course that is going to have someone asking, what are Straffan's problems then?

Kinder Bueno · 23-05-2013 12:03pm

He plays with Kevin's not Straffan!

Lemlin, you seem to have some gripe with SJ that's bordering on the obsessive. Anytime there's a whiff of his name on here you jump in like a scolded cat.

Klairon is correct, I was at that relegation final and only for Johnston, St. Kevin's would now be an Intermediate team. I think there's a very good chance Johnston will play a big role in the championship for us this year, I think the full forward line will be JD, Brophy and SJ. The whole O'Connor experiment is over and rightly so, it works against the weaker teams but not against the big boys. Alan Smith has never convinced me, he blows too hot and cold for my liking and he seems to have an attitude problem at times too. Fogarty and Dowling are not quite ready yet especially after the U21 semi disaster.

I can't believe one year later we are still having a debate about Johnston..

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 12:08pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

Lemlin, you seem to have some gripe with SJ that's bordering on the obsessive. Anytime there's a whiff of his name on here you jump in like a scolded cat.

Klairon is correct, I was at that relegation final and only for Johnston, St. Kevin's would now be an Intermediate team. I think there's a very good chance Johnston will play a big role in the championship for us this year, I think the full forward line will be JD, Brophy and SJ. The whole O'Connor experiment is over and rightly so, it works against the weaker teams but not against the big boys. Alan Smith has never convinced me, he blows too hot and cold for my liking and he seems to have an attitude problem at times too. Fogarty and Dowling and not quite ready yet especially after the U21 semi disaster.

I can't believe one year later we are still having a debate about Johnston..

I'd imagine its for the same reason:

a)straight away a few papers ran a story on Monday morning that Martin Dunne said he still regularly talks to Johnston and would love to play with him for Cavan again.
b)The first tweet the Sunday Game read out on Sunday night was one from Johnston.
c)Johnston tweeted about Cavan after the game and tweeted some players directly.
d)Cavan media like the Anglo Celt still regularly report on Johnston's progress in Kildare.

I don't see how its bordering on the obsessive to follow the progress of a player who relocated from the county to Kildare. How many years is it since Larry Tompkins relocated and is it not still talked about in Kildare?

The responses from all of ye above also show its still obviously a touchy subject in the county. Straight away ye close ranks.

To be honest, my interest today is more in the fact that Dark Knight won't admit his opinion has clearly changed? Last year SJ was a bastion of greatness, this year he clearly isn't, yet DK reckons that's because he didn't want to give his true opinion on here last year

klairondavis · 23-05-2013 12:09pm

Kinder Bueno wrote: »

Alan Smith has never convinced me, he blows too hot and cold for my liking and he seems to have an attitude problem at times too. Fogarty and Dowling are not quite ready yet especially after the U21 semi disaster.

I don't agree. Smith's attitude is fantastic. He was Kildare's best forward last year and was the best forward in the club championship too. It was just unfortunate that he got injured against Ballymun in the Leinster Championship. He was one of the few Kildare players to come out of the Meath and Cork matches last year with their reputation intact.

Fogarty isn't on the senior panel as far as I'm aware. He has a ridiculous training schedule with the army and doesn't feel he can give the necessary commitment. I think Eoghan O'Flaherty won't be far away from the starting lineup. He has shown signs of a return to form recently and that is a positive for Kildare.

klairondavis · 23-05-2013 12:16pm

Lemlin wrote: »

The responses from all of ye above also show its still obviously a touchy subject in the county. Straight away ye close ranks.

Of course it's a divisive subject. A large proportion of the GAA membership in the county were uncomfortable with what went on. There's no point in raking it up again. He's here now and we'll all just get on with it whatever our feelings are. There's nothing more to add to it at this stage.

Lemlin · 23-05-2013 12:30pm

klairondavis wrote: »

Of course it's a divisive subject. A large proportion of the GAA membership in the county were uncomfortable with what went on. There's no point in raking it up again. He's here now and we'll all just get on with it whatever our feelings are. There's nothing more to add to it at this stage.

And that reasoning above is why I would respect your opinion and thanked your response above.

Dark Knight's however for me is full of waffle and that is why I questioned it. I don't see the problem with him admitting his opinion on the player in question has changed.

Kinder Bueno · 23-05-2013 12:34pm

klairondavis wrote: »

I don't agree. Smith's attitude is fantastic. He was Kildare's best forward last year and was the best forward in the club championship too. It was just unfortunate that he got injured against Ballymun in the Leinster Championship. He was one of the few Kildare players to come out of the Meath and Cork matches last year with their reputation intact.

Fogarty isn't on the senior panel as far as I'm aware. He has a ridiculous training schedule with the army and doesn't feel he can give the necessary commitment. I think Eoghan O'Flaherty won't be far away from the starting lineup. He has shown signs of a return to form recently and that is a positive for Kildare.

I don't agree, Eoghan O'Flaherty was far and away the best forward in the club championship.

Smith was ok last year, he kicked a few scores against Cork and Meath, games that we both lost. I think it was more of a case of teams easing off rather than Smith been brilliant.

Going on recent challenge matches it seems Eamon Callaghan might very well be the latest experiment at CB. If that's the case I'd have a forward line of Eoghan O'Flaherty, Conway, Daniel Flynn, JD, Brophy and Seanie.

We really need to get midfield sorted this year, Daryl Flynn doesn't seem to be fully fit yet, going on reports from a recent club game he played, it seems he's a long way off it. Hurley has been suspended from the panel so it's anyone's guess as to who will partner Flynn if he is fit. Gary White will be a bigger loss than we first thought!

One player who I'm looking forward to seeing in this years championship is Paul Cribbin, he has a massive engine and he can take a score too. I was also looking forward to seeing Eoin Doyle at CB but it looks like he is injured hence Callaghan @CB. Doyle has all the attributes to be a good CB IMO.

klairondavis · 23-05-2013 12:39pm

Conway won't get near the team. He was the fall guy for the Dublin defeat in the league.

Smith for me is the best inside forward in Kildare club football. He beat Michael Shields to every single ball last year. The trouble was that Kildare could not get enough ball into him. He was excellent against Cavan and Sligo too. I think he was Kildare's top scorer from play last year.

DARK-KNIGHT · 23-05-2013 12:44pm

Lemlin wrote: »

And that reasoning above is why I would respect your opinion and thanked your response above.

Dark Knight's however for me is full of waffle and that is why I questioned it. I don't see the problem with him admitting his opinion on the player in question has changed.

I said Johnston was a lily purely to rile you... Because you were obsessing at one point last year to be honest. My opinion is seanie should have stayed where he was. I said that last year also the whole thing is embarrassing for Cavan and Kildare

I openly said pm me lemlin stop baiting me here saying I'm full of waffle etc..

And where straffan are concerned if you want call the club and ask the board what u want yo know. I know a player that said that Johnston was devoted to kildare but was not as devout to saint kevins. take from that what you want it is a fellow club players opinion.

Lemlin can you please stop what you are doing here debating is one thing but stirring the pot is another.

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