WandaVision - Disney+ (Spoilers)

bunny_ · 16-01-2021 1:13am

they look so cute together. they really match each other. and the costumes are great

JP Liz V1 · 16-01-2021 1:25am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I thought it was only okay. I like that it's different but the concept was starting to wear thin with me by the middle of the second episode. I think it's a good idea you can't binge watch the entire series as I imagine that would soon become tiresome.

I think I would prefer binge watch altogether

Olsen and Bethany would well together, good chemistry

CastorTroy · 16-01-2021 1:36am

Onscreen wife is Elizabeth Olsen and offscreen is Jennifer Connelly. He's not doing too bad for himself.

Slydice · 16-01-2021 1:58am

1: Seems to be setting the scene. Nothing huge jumped out at me from the black and white story. That hand at the end though.. that's gotta be Maria Hill right?

Birneybau · 16-01-2021 2:06am

Basq wrote: »

Let's face it..

.. if this didn't have the Marvel link, not a chance would this have been commissioned.

Who possibly could it be marketed at beside "Marvel head's" (and I include myself in that)?

Reminds me of when Mr Robot did that 20 minutes sitcom set in the 80's.. that was way more entertaining and funny than this.

Obviously. Obviously it wouldn't exist without its link to the MCU. Why on Earth would you think otherwise?

I thought it was funny enough, weird enough and very entertaining.

The humour adds to the weirdness of it. It's otherworldly.

The White Wolf · 16-01-2021 2:18am

Hoping the theory that all the supporting characters are in fact attempted infiltrators is true. Would love to see Emma Caulfield as a regular in the MCU

Bacchus · 16-01-2021 9:47am

Really enjoyed it. Nice to see something a bit off the wall from the MCU. I definitely feel these early episodes will be stronger on repeat viewing when we learn what's going on. For now, they are nailing the sitcom vibe, and the odd moments have a good creepy vibe in contrast.

My theory

is that Vision is dead. He's just another part of this world that Wanda had created (or its someone else manipulating her powers to some end and she still has some control). They even call Vision "Illusion" in their magic act. Feels like a little hint.

Basq · 16-01-2021 9:56am

Birneybau wrote: »

Obviously. Obviously it wouldn't exist without its link to the MCU. Why on Earth would you think otherwise?

You're missing the point entirely!

pjohnson · 16-01-2021 10:04am

Bacchus wrote: »

Really enjoyed it. Nice to see something a bit off the wall from the MCU. I definitely feel these early episodes will be stronger on repeat viewing when we learn what's going on. For now, they are nailing the sitcom vibe, and the odd moments have a good creepy vibe in contrast.

My theory
is that Vision is dead. He's just another part of this world that Wanda had created (or its someone else manipulating her powers to some end and she still has some control). They even call Vision "Illusion" in their magic act. Feels like a little hint.

Re your spoiler.

Glamour and Illusion are call outs to a pair of "Magicians" from Scarlet Witchs solo series. They are actually superhumans but pretend to be human magicians to avoid prejudice.

Midlife crisis man · 16-01-2021 2:34pm

Watched the 2 episodes last night. Worst pile of muck I've seen on tv in a long time

Dravokivich · 16-01-2021 3:14pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Captain Marvel's little friend all grown up as well.

How many of the other villagers are Superheros.

That's why it reminds me of The Prisoner the elaborate scheme of a Village trying find out what they know.

That's not what the prisoner was about. The prisoner was about attempting to catalogue an individual. Essentially what browser cookies are now.

Agent Coulson · 16-01-2021 3:25pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

That's not what was about. The prisoner was about attempting to catalogue an individual. Essentially what browser cookies are now.

The Prisoner was about breaking number 6 down using elaborate scheme of a supernatural Village and find out what made him tick by putting him with others who may or may not be in the same vote and not knowing who to trust to try break him down and make him conform and give up his secrets on why he is an individual.

So far from the two episodes shown it seems Wanda could well be in the same kind of place where someone/group is trying to figure her out and what makes her tick to get her secrets.

riclad · 16-01-2021 3:35pm

I think each episode is a tribute to old sitcom,s , eg the first is like a 60,s comedy, the 2nd is like a 70,s sitcom, , and its filmed in a certain style to match the old tv programs .its like a sitcom mixed with black mirror .eg wanda can use her powers to change reality .its something different, imagine if 2 superpowered characters from marvel tried to live
a normal life in the suburbs as a married couple .its nice to see a marvel tv show with some humour in it.

Mitch Connor · 16-01-2021 5:05pm

Watched the first two episodes. Assume this is essentially one story split into 9 parts rather than 9 traditional episodes and taking it that way I can accept there being no progression in the first two.

Acceptable or not, I reckon the 9 episodes will need to be judged as a whole.

I did think there would be something more explained in episode two to give you something to latch on to for week 2, having got 1 and 2 together.

Interested to see where it goes because I believe the story is going to have an impact, and I'm willing to give marvel and Disney the benefit of the doubt having been a fan of all the movies and the mandalorian. If they feel a slow build will pay off, let's see.

Skerries · 16-01-2021 5:48pm

was the beekeeper a reference to A.I.M?

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Slydice · 16-01-2021 5:58pm

2: I thought the scene with the glass breaking was done well for the break-in of reality. That maybe sounded like Rhodes on the radio and at the end?

Gunmonkey · 16-01-2021 6:00pm

Skerries wrote: »

was the beekeeper a reference to A.I.M?

Dont think so, he had a SWORD logo on his back. As did the helicopter.

Loughc · 16-01-2021 6:03pm

Slydice wrote: »

2: I thought the scene with the glass breaking was done well for the break-in of reality. That maybe sounded like Rhodes on the radio and at the end?

It was shield agent Jimmy Woo on the radio.

EoinMcLovin · 16-01-2021 7:10pm

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Dont think so, he had a SWORD logo on his back. As did the helicopter.

What if AIM infiltrated SWORD like Hydra did with SHIELD. Or what if this is a faction within SWORD that eventually become AIM with this being used to introduce them to MCU

Mitch Connor · 16-01-2021 8:14pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

What if AIM infiltrated SWORD like Hydra did with SHIELD. Or what if this is a faction within SWORD that eventually become AIM with this being used to introduce them to MCU

AIM was already in MCU, with Iron Man 3.

EoinMcLovin · 16-01-2021 8:47pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

AIM was already in MCU, with Iron Man 3.

Completely forgot about that, good catch

FunLover18 · 16-01-2021 9:03pm

Would it not be best to spoiler tag any speculation for reveals and future episodes especially on a show like this which is based (however loosely) on existing material and characters. I've been following the development of this show and had forgotten certain castings so it would be nice of the show still had some surprises.

Ridley · 16-01-2021 9:15pm

Copy/pasting from another thread if I may.

Lord TSC wrote: »

Thoughts and theories:
“The Devil is in the details”
“That’s not the only thing he’s in!”

That feels like a massive tease for a certain Marvel character.

The fact they announced who Gabrielle is in the show when the actress was cast feels like a little bit of a misstep, so be careful of people want to avoid spoilers on who she is.

My thoughts are Wanda is stuck in some sort of prison which is manifesting itself as the TV shows, hooking in people and capturing them as the show goes on (multiple characters seem to be introduced after she finds the SWORD helicopter), but she clearly has some level of control over it.

Maybe SWORD trying to get in to save either her or the other captives.

What

SWORD

stands for in the MCU is out in the wilds of the Internet which might give the game away with where the neighbourhood is. Not posting it in here cause I don't actually want to spoil people. :P

I'm wondering if the whole situation is an attempt at grief counselling for Wanda that's backfired and the fantasy is simply so preferable to reality that any attempts to pull her out of it is rejected

and she's dragging those around her in with her

. I suspect that the

Grim Reaper helmet easter egg in the Bescarletwitched titles

is just a reminder that Vision's gone.

Heard a theory recorded before WandaVision launched on, iirc, the Cinematic Universe podcast that Wanda is what opens up the multiverse. Could be the MCU's version of the comics'

"No more mutants."

moment.

Something's off about the neighbourhood but it hasn't gotten Strange yet..?

kerplun k · 16-01-2021 9:18pm

E2: continues to be underwhelming. Again I’ve no doubt the payoff is going to be great, but still think it’ll be a chore getting there. I think this is one where I should have waited until they where all out before watching.

horgan_p · 16-01-2021 10:03pm

No.More.Spoilers.

(either you'll get it or you wont)

pjohnson · 16-01-2021 10:08pm

horgan_p wrote: »

No.More.Spoilers.

(either you'll get it or you wont)

So thats just 198 spoilers left then :P

Foxtrol · 16-01-2021 11:27pm

Loughc wrote: »

Disney plus came out and admitted they planned it weekly to keep monthly subscribers engaged and subscribed for longer. Even if you wait til March to binge watch the whole season Loki is releasing then.

You watch one episode of that or wait until May to binge that.

It’s a clever model and I don’t blame them for doing it. Parts of me wishes I waited to binge it but the genie is out of the bottle now.

I wouldn't call it clever because it isn't a unique approach, basically every streaming service aside from Netflix is doing this now with their big name shows.

I know we're in a world of demanding instant gratification but this complaint seems to come up on every thread of new shows released weekly. Sure it is nice to binge but I don't get these complaints coming up every single time. A show like this with mystery it is good to build off things week to week. It isn't a bad thing to be left wanting more.

The White Wolf · 16-01-2021 11:43pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

I wouldn't call it clever because it isn't a unique approach, basically every streaming service aside from Netflix is doing this now with their big name shows.

I know we're in a world of demanding instant gratification but this complaint seems to come up on every thread of new shows released weekly. Sure it is nice to binge but I don't get these complaints coming up every single time. A show like this with mystery it is good to build off things week to week. It isn't a bad thing to be left wanting more.

Weekly is fine as long as a compelling hook is established from the first episode. The "hook" people are latching onto here, of course in my opinion, isn't earned by the first two episodes but rather what people are already aware of between the MCU and the comics it's based on.

We readily hear the argument in the genre of "can it stand on its own two feet" without having to fill in dots. I don't believe this show achieved it in its first two episodes. The mystery is redundant because we already know what's happening; the show is just dicking about with it.

Really is no excuse for it in a 9-10 episode run and the more it's forgiven, the more we're going end up with crap like Stark Trek Discovery masquerading as prestige TV.

The Inbetween is mine · 17-01-2021 12:59am

Absolute rubbish

siblers · 17-01-2021 1:43am

First episode was weird, felt like just a very generic sitcom. If they are going for parody, it's not working yet.

Second episode was better, felt darker and can tell something is going to go down although very run of the mill

Ill continue to watch out of curiosity. Can't say it's all that enjoyable though

Is it a laughter track or live audience? Cause I've no idea how anyone could laugh out loud for anything in the first 2 episodes

Birneybau · 17-01-2021 11:43am

Laugh track.

Ridley · 17-01-2021 12:00pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpzqDoEHS08

Audience.

Nigzcurran · 17-01-2021 12:03pm

Crap unfortunately

paulie1983 · 17-01-2021 12:24pm

If you have a familiarity with classic early sitcoms such as I Love Lucy, The Dick Van Duke Show, Bewitched and I Dream of Jeanie you will enjoy Wandavision opening two episodes if you don't well maybe binge watch some episodes of those shows during lockdown.

So many great sitcoms dont get repeated today especially black and white.

The Inbetween is mine · 17-01-2021 12:39pm

paulie1983 wrote: »

If you have a familiarity with classic early sitcoms such as I Love Lucy, The Dick Van Duke Show, Bewitched and I Dream of Jeanie you will enjoy Wandavision opening two episodes if you don't well maybe binge watch some episodes of those shows during lockdown.

So many great sitcoms dont get repeated today especially black and white.

Other than it being in b&w there are absolutely no similarities to those well written and perfectly timed comedies.
Wandavision is someones masturbatory ego trip so far and nothing more imo

RobbingBandit · 17-01-2021 1:32pm

I feel when this show has run its course it will be a watch from end to beginning to understand what's going on will probably come with a disclaimer of you should know the smallest background info on the characters involved before watching.

kerplun k · 17-01-2021 2:00pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I feel when this show has run its course it will be a watch from end to beginning to understand what's going on will probably come with a disclaimer of you should know the smallest background info on the characters involved before watching.

Yep, you just know the payoff is gonna be good. But I do think getting there is a bit of chore. They really could have put a bit more work into the early episodes to make it more interesting.

klose · 17-01-2021 5:55pm

No idea what's really going on but it has me interested atleast. Got caught out with the ending thought there would be some post credit scene as it ended but had 6 minutes of running time left but only ended up being credits for all the different national voice actors.

Brief_Lives · 17-01-2021 7:00pm

Disney+ is 7€ a month here... what is for you people back in Ireland?

flazio · 17-01-2021 7:41pm

About the same.

klose · 17-01-2021 8:28pm

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Disney+ is 7€ a month here... what is for you people back in Ireland?

6.99,i assume they will be gradually upping the price as more of these style of shows release?

Loughc · 17-01-2021 8:47pm

klose wrote: »

6.99,i assume they will be gradually upping the price as more of these style of shows release?

Price increase is coming mid-Feb but they are Adding Stars channel to the lineup.

Sarn · 17-01-2021 10:32pm

I enjoyed the two episodes, but knowing that there will be a payoff makes all the difference. Trying to spot clues or other Marvel nuggets also helps.

expectationlost · 18-01-2021 6:18pm

Ridley wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpzqDoEHS08

Audience.

audience and crew that dressed in the era clothes

Agent Coulson · 18-01-2021 6:40pm

Disney own the rights to Fantasy Island maybe Wanda want on holiday there and wished to have Vision back and now the Island's magic is clashing with her magic.

Foxtrol · 18-01-2021 7:30pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Weekly is fine as long as a compelling hook is established from the first episode. The "hook" people are latching onto here, of course in my opinion, isn't earned by the first two episodes but rather what people are already aware of between the MCU and the comics it's based on.

We readily hear the argument in the genre of "can it stand on its own two feet" without having to fill in dots. I don't believe this show achieved it in its first two episodes. The mystery is redundant because we already know what's happening; the show is just dicking about with it.

Really is no excuse for it in a 9-10 episode run and the more it's forgiven, the more we're going end up with crap like Stark Trek Discovery masquerading as prestige TV.

Disagree with your perspective. To me you can't assess a show or movie in isolation because practically no one else is. A large majority of the audience are watching because they have a connection or 'hook' to the characters and the show is developed knowing this fact. Comments like 'this wouldn't work if it wasn't MCU (or Star Wars etc) don't make sense because these are MCU and they are leveraging this in their approach.

Personally I have never enjoyed any form of 'dream sequence' on any show or movie so what we've seen so far is very much outside my comfort zone. Given how most, if not all, of the MCU shows lined up will be very much back to real world action, and basically everything we've seen already in MCU movies, I'm willing to see where this show takes us.

Bacchus · 18-01-2021 8:40pm

Ridley wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpzqDoEHS08

Audience.

That's quite spoilery towards the end.

kerplun k · 18-01-2021 9:08pm

Remind me again what they did in Wakanda with Vision. I know they tried to separate the Mindstone from him, I also remember Shuri doing something just before the Thanos army infiltrated the base. Was anything ever explained after that scene. Like what was the end result? Did they manage to copy him or anything? Or was it just assumed they couldn’t separate him in time before Thanos got to him and removed it.

FunLover18 · 18-01-2021 9:15pm

I rewatched the first episode today and I'm not really sure what people expected from it, like any pilot it was about setting up the "sit" in sitcom with hints of something more going on. I think maybe what's throwing people off how far down the sitcoms path the show is prepared to go and just like with any comedy humour is subjective.

Sleeper12 · 18-01-2021 9:43pm

I don't know what to make of it to be honest. Switched it off half way through the first episode. Came back a few days later and watched it to the end of the 2nd episode. So far I can't see what audiences it's aimed at.

I'm a big Marvel movie fan so hopefully it will get better

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