What to do during hosepipe ban?

standardg60 · 30-06-2018 9:33pm

Alijah Breezy Globe wrote: »

Ah come on anyone buying this next week will have it ripped out of the packaging and on the lawn in under 30mins. They not going to wait, it's 30oC outside.

The best time to buy these is mid-winter, a regular summer weather is fine (rainy), but looks like no rain for weeks, possible summer of '76-78 type records broken and yellow grass galore.

Agreed. I'd imagine these will be withdrawn from sale for the moment.

Dial Hard · 30-06-2018 9:41pm

Alijah Breezy Globe wrote:

Bits of it, imposed water restrictions and such. 7,000+ litres is a fair bit of hosepipe, bucket or mains connection.

That pool has come up already.

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-06-2018 9:45pm

This post has been deleted.

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-06-2018 9:46pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

That pool has come up already.

Cool, 7,000 litres is worth thinking about twice.

Maybe the FireBrigade (many have drones now) can do a quick 'eye in the sky' scan next weekend to count the 'blue pools of pleasure', in between detecting early gorse fire hazards.

Dial Hard · 30-06-2018 9:46pm

Patww79 wrote:

This post has been deleted.

It's really not.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 30-06-2018 9:47pm

Alijah Breezy Globe wrote: »

Cool, 7,000 litres is worth thinking about twice.

Maybe the FireBrigade (many have drones now) can do a quick 'eye in the sky' scan next weekend to count the 'blue pools of pleasure', in between detecting early gorse fire hazards.

They can sell plenty outside Dublin.

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-06-2018 9:47pm

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

True, more a case of temporary 'social responsibility'. They're good at all the charity stuff and sponsoring sports clubs, so not unthinkable.
// As mentioned above just now, might only affect Dublin sales, so not going to impact on the end of year Balance Sheet.

Ms2011 · 30-06-2018 9:49pm

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

The purpof a hammer is not to bludgeon your neighbour to death with it, the sole purpose of a pool is to be filled with water.

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-06-2018 9:51pm

This post has been deleted.

LirW · 30-06-2018 9:51pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

There is not half as much as you would think. It doesn't rain for close to half the time. That said it does rain enough to keep a small sparsely populated place like Ireland well supplied.

Well in that case I think the population should think even more about a private tank for rainwater harvesting, especially with the prospect of that happening a lot more. Even I thought of getting a second one in the back garden so there's one in the front and one in the back.
Said it before, why aren't new houses fitted with harvesting systems for outside taps and all non-drinking water jobs like the toilet.

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-06-2018 9:52pm

This post has been deleted.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 30-06-2018 10:04pm

So anyway, gardening.....would you mow the lawn (albeit quite high) to remove stalky growth while it's brown or leave it alone?

LirW · 30-06-2018 10:19pm

Esmeralda Tasty Soreness wrote: »

So anyway, gardening.....would you mow the lawn (albeit quite high) to remove stalky growth while it's brown or leave it alone?

I wouldn't, if you cut short it can burn the remaining lawn down with strong sun exposure, lawn has a better chance to stay grand when you don't mow in the time strong heat.

May Contain Small Parts · 30-06-2018 11:25pm

LirW wrote: »

Well in that case I think the population should think even more about a private tank for rainwater harvesting, especially with the prospect of that happening a lot more. Even I thought of getting a second one in the back garden so there's one in the front and one in the back.
Said it before, why aren't new houses fitted with harvesting systems for outside taps and all non-drinking water jobs like the toilet.

Or we could not moan so much about paying taxes and lobby/enable the government to actually build proper infrastructure.

magicbastarder · 01-07-2018 1:51am

LirW wrote: »

It says quite a lot about the state of a country if a few days of warm weather can cause a serious crisis in supply

a few days? are we living in the same country?
i live in dublin and we've not had significant rain in 6 or 8 weeks.

magicbastarder · 01-07-2018 1:53am

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

source? the law explicitly mentions hoses and hoses only, IW have confirmed as much, and it's been mentioned several times in thread.

TomOnBoard · 01-07-2018 2:24am

magicbastarder wrote: »

a few days? are we living in the same country?
i live in dublin and we've not had significant rain in 6 or 8 weeks.

And, given that you live in Dub!in, ye've fook all water at the best of times. Sure aren't ye trying to hijack the Shannon these days. Just be careful about that strategy though- the culchies love to dump their sh!t directly into that river.

BOHtox · 01-07-2018 2:45am

If only there was some means which financially affected those who use more water than others

01-07-2018 2:15pm

BOHtox wrote: »

If only there was some means which financially affected those who use more water than others

I wonder would those on limited incomes get a paddling pool bonus at this time of year, to use against their water charges.

evolving_doors · 01-07-2018 3:14pm

Patww79 wrote: »

But the purpose of a pool isn't specifically to fill it the second you get home during a hosepipe ban.

Ah... Ya it is.

Or else the dad goes... no it's too sunny kids. Let's wait till it rains before I set it up!!

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-07-2018 6:08pm

This post has been deleted.

harr · 01-07-2018 6:30pm

Wheelbarrow under tap and into the paddling pool...job done

TomOnBoard · 01-07-2018 6:32pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Lad on the news was saying it's only specifically hosepipes, so you can go town with buckets, etc.

Great news! I'll go ahead and get that pool from Lidl so.. I have a grand yellow bucket that I'll clean out to fill it. It holds 10 litres so I'll fill the pool after ammm, 750 trips to the kitchen sink. Awesome!!!

Oh, Jaysus, I hope Johnny's bladder infection clears up or the little fecker is going to have to be chained to the swing set so he doesn't feck up the water.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-07-2018 6:33pm

This post has been deleted.

homer911 · 01-07-2018 6:36pm

My fish pond is exempt, so I'm filling watering cans from the pond and topping up the pond with a hose as needed - at least the water doesnt go to waste.

The wife has also decided that when she runs the hot tap, it wastes loads of water waiting for it to get hot, so she is filling a basin while she waits and then it goes on the plants..

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-07-2018 6:47pm

homer911 wrote: »

The wife has also decided that when she runs the hot tap, it wastes loads of water waiting for it to get hot, so she is filling a basin while she waits and then it goes on the plants..

I've been doing that for the past week. Plus washing up in a basin, rather than the sink, and the waste water goes on the garden.

magicbastarder · 01-07-2018 6:49pm

homer911 wrote: »

My fish pond is exempt, so I'm filling watering cans from the pond and topping up the pond with a hose as needed - at least the water doesnt go to waste.

i think that may be within the letter rather than the spirit of the law.
however, filling a watering can directly from the tap is legal and achieves the same end, rather than going via your more cicuitous option?

homer911 · 01-07-2018 6:55pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

i think that may be within the letter rather than the spirit of the law.
however, filling a watering can directly from the tap is legal and achieves the same end, rather than going via your more cicuitous option?

Agreed, but at least this way I get to freshen the water in the pond. It gets quite "cloudy" in the sunshine

dclifford · 01-07-2018 10:47pm

I have watered the grass, 25 m2, for the last few weeks every evening. Grass has stayed pretty much green. So it stops now. Will it really come back as good as it is now? Lawn is about 2 yr old from Goulding No1 grass seed.

Is there anything that can be done to help bees out with this hot, dry weather? I have water for the birds.

TomOnBoard · 01-07-2018 10:55pm

Patww79 wrote: »

What in the name of all that's holy are you going on about? I meant to water plants, which was the whole point of this in the first place. At least everything doesn't need to be left die.

Whoosh!

The Lidl pool was discussed over a number of pages earlier in the thread. Keep up! ;-)

TomOnBoard · 01-07-2018 10:58pm

dclifford wrote: »

I have watered the grass, 25 m2, for the last few weeks every evening. Grass has stayed pretty much green. So it stops now. Will it really come back as good as it is now? Lawn is about 2 yr old from Goulding No1 grass seed.

Is there anything that can be done to help bees out with this hot, dry weather? I have water for the birds.

I've let my 2 lawns grow over the past 6 weeks. The Bees love it. And its very pretty. Full of flowers. I'll have to take it down in stages after middle July. But in the meantime, I'm glad to see the butt of the grasses etc are still quite moist in the mornings..

magicbastarder · 01-07-2018 11:02pm

dclifford wrote: »

I have watered the grass, 25 m2, for the last few weeks every evening. Grass has stayed pretty much green.

that's complete overkill; i haven't watered the lawn at all and it's only started turning brown recently. cutting the grass short will do it no favours, cut it high and sparingly.

magicbastarder · 01-07-2018 11:03pm

homer911 wrote: »

Agreed, but at least this way I get to freshen the water in the pond. It gets quite "cloudy" in the sunshine

our pond has been fine, but with an important distinction that we've no fish in it. i've let the duckweed romp away in it, helps keep the light out of it.

02-07-2018 12:13am

What's the theory behind banning a hose, but not a bucket?

Is it to avoid people wasting water by leaving a hose running? Or to make you a bit more careful with your water usage by using a watering can or such? Presumably if it takes you 10 litres of water to water your plants, it's going to take 10 litres regardless of whether the water is from a bucket or a hose?

Mark Horgan · 02-07-2018 12:17am

We are urinating on the lawn, in countryside so no peeping toms or James. Why waste it down the toilet and then flush another 6 liters of water down the toilet.
We are Saving on average 120 liters of water a day.

mrcheez · 02-07-2018 12:24am

Curious, how do they enforce this with terraced properties where the garden is hidden from public view?!

Mark Horgan · 02-07-2018 12:25am

They will have drones doing cctv.

02-07-2018 12:38am

mrcheez wrote: »

Curious, how do they enforce this with terraced properties where the garden is hidden from public view?!

It's a mix of hoping people will report others, and, I'd imagine, if you've a water meter they can just tell from that how many litres you've used.

TomOnBoard · 02-07-2018 12:38am

Mark Horgan wrote: »

We are urinating on the lawn, in countryside so no peeping toms or James. Why waste it down the toilet and then flush another 6 liters of water down the toilet.
We are Saving on average 120 liters of water a day.

Absolutely correct! Well done! However, you're going to have some crazy deep green patches :eek: as soon as the grass starts growing again.

Oh and BTW, drink more beer. That'll make you pee more so you'll save even more water..

02-07-2018 12:46am

Another of my musings... That Lidl pool is enormous! It's 12ft in diameter.

This ban applies only to 'the greater Dublin region'. I can't imagine there are many houses in and around Dublin that would comfortably accommodate this pool in the first place? Most terraced house gardens are generally more suited to smaller pools half the size?

Wonder would they (the pools) really have any bearing on the water issue. Considering most would be best suited to larger (generally detached) houses with huge gardens (that Dublin definitely has some of, but not a whole heap of), I'd imagine most punters would be more interested in getting one of these pools for their gardens in Cavan and Monaghan and what have you, rather than in Dublin?

I'd imagine that not many will really be sold (or filled) in Dublin in general (entirely guessing)?

iamtony · 02-07-2018 12:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

Another of my musings... That Lidl pool is enormous! It's 12ft in diameter.

This ban applies only to 'the greater Dublin region'. I can't imagine there are many houses in and around Dublin that would comfortably accommodate this pool in the first place? Most terraced house gardens are generally more suited to smaller pools half the size?

Wonder would they (the pools) really have any bearing on the water issue. Considering most would be best suited to larger (generally detached) houses with huge gardens (that Dublin definitely has some of, but not a whole heap of), I'd imagine most punters would be more interested in getting one of these pools for their gardens in Cavan and Monaghan and what have you, rather than in Dublin?

I'd imagine that not many will really be sold (or filled) in Dublin in general (entirely guessing)?

I'm the grand scheme of things I think you are correct, it is insignificant.
P. S my Dublin City Garden is 60 odd foot long and about 30 foot wide. I was thinking of getting 2 pools across with a six foot gap down the middle and 5 lenght ways down the garden. Might get another 2 for the front garden:) we're not living in Japan a lot of people have big gardens and those pools will sell like hot cakes there will be ques outside each store.

endacl · 02-07-2018 12:58am

How did plants, after millions of years of evolution, suddenly get so soft since the invention of the hose?

iamtony · 02-07-2018 12:58am

I've the perfect solution for anyone who wants a 12 foot lidl pool. I've a pond full of koi, I will rent you one koi and you can throw it in the lidl pool then you can filly it willy nilly in the best interest of the poor fish

iamtony · 02-07-2018 12:59am

endacl wrote: »

How did plants, after millions of years of evolution, suddenly get so soft since the invention of the hose?

They aren't native to Ireland.

wonski · 02-07-2018 1:05am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Another of my musings... That Lidl pool is enormous! It's 12ft in diameter.

This ban applies only to 'the greater Dublin region'. I can't imagine there are many houses in and around Dublin that would comfortably accommodate this pool in the first place? Most terraced house gardens are generally more suited to smaller pools half the size?

Wonder would they (the pools) really have any bearing on the water issue. Considering most would be best suited to larger (generally detached) houses with huge gardens (that Dublin definitely has some of, but not a whole heap of), I'd imagine most punters would be more interested in getting one of these pools for their gardens in Cavan and Monaghan and what have you, rather than in Dublin?

I'd imagine that not many will really be sold (or filled) in Dublin in general (entirely guessing)?

Greater Dublin area for Irish Water goes as far as Monasterevin and Athy. Naas, Wicklow etc.

There are many properties there, and in Dublin, where you can fit it in

People focus on Dublin too much where this ban affects more remote areas as well.

TomOnBoard · 02-07-2018 1:05am

iamtony wrote: »

I'm the grand scheme of things I think you are correct, it is insignificant.
P. S my Dublin City Garden is 60 odd foot long and about 30 foot wide. I was thinking of getting 2 pools across with a six foot gap down the middle and 5 lenght ways down the garden. Might get another 2 for the front garden:) we're not living in Japan a lot of people have big gardens and those pools will sell like hot cakes there will be ques outside each store.

Good man Tony Thats the spirit!

So, is it 10 or 12 pools in total? Its just so you can work out the number of bucketloads of water you'll need to factor in. Oh, and make sure you leave that pathway wide enough for the wheelbarrow to pass through, in case you decide to go that route as per the very fine solution posted earlier in the thread.

Remember, if you only use 10 pools, that'll be 7,500 bucketfuls @10 litres each.

02-07-2018 1:11am

iamtony wrote: »

I'm the grand scheme of things I think you are correct, it is insignificant.
P. S my Dublin City Garden is 60 odd foot long and about 30 foot wide. I was thinking of getting 2 pools across with a six foot gap down the middle and 5 lenght ways down the garden. Might get another 2 for the front garden:) we're not living in Japan a lot of people have big gardens and those pools will sell like hot cakes there will be ques outside each store.

Can I ask whereabouts in Dublin your living? I rarely see a dublin house with a garden that size unless it's in a very high end area and is often detached etc. (I photograph property, and always associate dublin with cramped garden space).

I live in Drogheda myself, so not a million miles away, any my garden would have originally been about the same size as yours (albeit mine is nowadays smaller, as its had a garage built, has a large shed, and I did an extension onto house etc so my current-day usable space is approx 15ft x 30ft.. In other words, not enough to really fit a Lidl pool in it).

iamtony · 02-07-2018 1:13am

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Good man Tony Thats the spirit!

So, is it 10 or 12 pools in total? Its just so you can work out the number of bucketloads of water you'll need to factor in. Oh, and make sure you leave that pathway wide enough for the wheelbarrow to pass through, in case you decide to go that route as per the very fine solution posted earlier in the thread.

Remember, if you only use 10 pools, that'll be 7,500 bucketfuls @10 litres each.

LOL. If any of you want to fill up your water can from my pools your more than welcome. I'll be changing the water daily cause those pesky flies will end up in their and us city slickers cant handle a fly landing in our tea without making another cup never mind a pool that's just gross:)

iamtony · 02-07-2018 1:15am

Deleted User wrote: »

Can I ask whereabouts in Dublin your living? I rarely see a dublin house with a garden that size unless it's in a very high end area and is often detached etc. (I photograph property, and always associate dublin with cramped garden space).

I live in Drogheda myself, so not a million miles away, any my garden would have originally been about the same size as yours (albeit mine is nowadays smaller, as its had a garage built, has a large shed, and I did an extension onto house etc so my current-day usable space is approx 15ft x 30ft.. In other words, not enough to really fit a Lidl pool in it).

34 Clonshaugh Cl
34 Clonshaugh Cl, Clonshagh, Dublin 17, D17 F962

https://goo.gl/maps/8QfLfg8v1Ru

That white thing is a gazebo with the koi pond next to it, greenhouse after that and down the end is where I keep the hens and the rabbits. Imagine that, in a city. The hens probably have more room than some bedsits to be fair.

prinzeugen · 02-07-2018 1:16am

My lawn is dead but the roses are thriving. Only watering the freshly planted stuff.

People need to remember that plants are not fish. They dont need to be drowned in water to survive.

Overwatering in this heat will cause you more problems than underwatering especially if there is little airflow.

What to do during hosepipe ban?

Comments