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    #3362
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Very hard to tell the quality of a beast through numbers :pac:

    suppose the higher € means better quality. to be fair I didn't really make note of them this time as I was more looking at what I have at home myself.
    wondering if the extra journey and hassle back there was worth it over the trip to listowel.


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    #3363
    john mayo 10
    Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    Sold a few yesterday in Ballina
    Ch heifer 388kgs 820 born late feb
    Lm heifer 275kgs 760 born early April
    Ch bull 295gs 720 born early April
    Ch bull 450gs 1000 born late January

    Happy enough with the prices


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    #3364
    Keep Sluicing
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    About half the weanlings in Skibb mart last Friday were unsold. A friend of mine said prices were chronic.... i told him they were realistic.


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    #3365
    TooOldBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Keep Sluicing wrote: »
    About half the weanlings in Skibb mart last Friday were unsold. A friend of mine said prices were chronic.... i told him they were realistic.

    Was inside in Ennis mart for a while today, (just looking)
    Huge mart, full of Weanlings must be over 1200 on offer. Oki-sh prices for the top stuff. Best price I saw was for a pair of lovely Charolais 325kg €890
    Some chronic bad prices too, many unsold. I saw good limousine Weanling bulls fail to make €600 :eek: I don't think the heifers were any better.
    I remember seeing dairy cross bull calves making over €500 last spring!!

    I don't see a future in producing a €600 Weanling, they are not even covering the cost of the cow now. If that's a realistic price then realistically theirs no future in Suckler farming


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    #3366
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Keep Sluicing wrote: »
    About half the weanlings in Skibb mart last Friday were unsold. A friend of mine said prices were chronic.... i told him they were realistic.
    You were right but how long will the realism last?


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    #3367
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Was inside in Ennis mart for a while today, (just looking)
    Huge mart, full of Weanlings must be over 1200 on offer. Oki-sh prices for the top stuff. Best price I saw was for a pair of lovely Charolais 325kg €890
    Some chronic bad prices too, many unsold. I saw good limousine Weanling bulls fail to make €600 :eek: I don't think the heifers were any better.
    I remember seeing dairy cross bull calves making over €500 last spring!!

    I don't see a future in producing a €600 Weanling, they are not even covering the cost of the cow now. If that's a realistic price then realistically theirs no future in Suckler farming

    Hasn't been a future in suckling since decoupling


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    #3368
    Keep Sluicing
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Was inside in Ennis mart for a while today, (just looking)
    Huge mart, full of Weanlings must be over 1200 on offer. Oki-sh prices for the top stuff. Best price I saw was for a pair of lovely Charolais 325kg €890
    Some chronic bad prices too, many unsold. I saw good limousine Weanling bulls fail to make €600 :eek: I don't think the heifers were any better.
    I remember seeing dairy cross bull calves making over €500 last spring!!

    I don't see a future in producing a €600 Weanling, they are not even covering the cost of the cow now. If that's a realistic price then realistically theirs no future in Suckler farming

    Your last paragraph was what I was getting at. And to be more precise, your last sentence


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    #3369
    orm0nd
    Registered Users Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    TooOldBoots wrote: »
    Was inside in Ennis mart for a while today, (just looking)
    Huge mart, full of Weanlings must be over 1200 on offer. Oki-sh prices for the top stuff. Best price I saw was for a pair of lovely Charolais 325kg €890
    Some chronic bad prices too, many unsold. I saw good limousine Weanling bulls fail to make €600 :eek: I don't think the heifers were any better.
    I remember seeing dairy cross bull calves making over €500 last spring!!

    I don't see a future in producing a €600 Weanling, they are not even covering the cost of the cow now. If that's a realistic price then realistically theirs no future in Suckler farming

    they never post the poorer prices in their report

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/clare-co-operative-marts/ennis-mart-tuesday-15th-october-2019/915479902153432/


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    #3370
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,169 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Keep Sluicing wrote: »
    About half the weanlings in Skibb mart last Friday were unsold. A friend of mine said prices were chronic.... i told him they were realistic.
    This post reminds me of a similar post earlier on this year when dairy cross calves didn't sell.


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    #3371
    Butcher Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Base price wrote: »
    This post reminds me of a similar post earlier on this year when dairy cross calves didn't sell.

    They were good enough trade in macroom saturday any thing around the250 to 300 kgs that were nice were making from 230 to270 akg bulls and heifers ,anything plain or black were a poor trade.


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    #3372
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭High bike


    Butcher Boy wrote: »
    They were good enough trade in macroom saturday any thing around the250 to 300 kgs that were nice were making from 230 to270 akg bulls and heifers ,anything plain or black were a poor trade.
    don't get this black b.s. they'r all the same colour hanging up


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    #3373
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭memorystick


    What are handy HR heifers born last spring making?


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    #3374
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,214 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    memorystick wrote: »
    What are handy HR heifers born last spring making?

    Have not seen them at a mart but I imagine not more than 1.5/kg

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #3375
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    In castleisland today and it's very poor 10 nice CH bullocks 568 Kgs unsold at 900 euro as an example born June 2017.

    Show cattle only sold average earlier.


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    #3376
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Listowel
    Bull
    Lm 355kg March  €765
    Black Lm 395kg Jan €700
    Lm 345kg Mar €700
    Black lm 410kg Jan €750
    Ch 418kg Feb €850
    Ch 275kg April € 500 not sold
    Ch 295kg april €630
    Ch 550kg may 18 €755
    Ch 370kg Mar €700
    Lm 380kg  Feb € 810
    Lm 368kg Jan €710
    Lm 385kg Dec €775

    Lm 200kg April €495
    Lm 302kg Dec €620
    Ch 408kg Mar €765
    Lm 280kg may €535

    Lm 355kg Mar €650
    Lm 335kg Dec €560 not sold
    Ch 370kg Feb € 690
    Ch 310kg Mar €720
    Lm  315kg Feb €640
    Ch 420kg Feb €855

    Lm 320kg may €
    Lm 280kg may €700

    Ch  270kg April  €500 not sold

    Ch feb 315kg €725
    Lm 305kg Mar €755
    Lm 260kg Mar €555
    Lm 295kg Mar €745
    Lm 235kg April €530


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    #3377
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    In castleisland today and it's very poor 10 nice CH bullocks 568 Kgs unsold at 900 euro as an example born June 2017.

    Show cattle only sold average earlier.

    There was a special bullock and bull weanling sale in our town yesterday. I was working in the mart as usual but have a job for a few bullocks atm so​ spent some time ringside. The general run of quality 2018 born stores was either side of €2 a kilo up to circa 550kg. Once you went above this weight or dropped back in quality the prices​ were back to €1.70-80 a kilo. Anything 2017 born or very plain wasn't wanted at all and €1.50 a kilo wouldn't have been uncommon, these would be all sucker bred stock. I bought 3 golden CHx bullocks, all April 18 born and only 2 movements,
    400kg @ €850 (best bullock imo, weighing nothing off a bad place)
    450kg @ €800 (tall hungry bullock)
    520kg @ €900 (fleshy butt of a lad).

    There standing €860 a piece including commission @ 455kg. As to whether they'll leave money I don't know but they can't be much good to the seller at those prices. They'd probably have made the guts of €700 a piece last April. I wasn't over at the weanlings for long as I hadn't any business there but a relation of my own bought 8 good golden farmers CHx calves all spring 19 born 365kg average @ €840. If he had stuck to the heavier calves they would probably be 420kg average at the same money. I saw a few 320kg lads @ circa €850 and the same types 420kg again @ €850.


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    #3378
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    SFP came out today so be interesting to see if that has an impact on prices


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    #3379
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    I’ve a few booked into Ennis for next week. Some a bit young but might make space in the shed. My driver said prices are awful bad there. I only noticed now that there are no Mart reports for Ennis since August. Bad sign.

    I’ll see what my numbers are and decide to keep or not. I’ve a few empty cows to go in a month. They’ll make space.


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    #3380
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭High bike


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I’ve a few booked into Ennis for next week. Some a bit young but might make space in the shed. My driver said prices are awful bad there. I only noticed now that there are no Mart reports for Ennis since August. Bad sign.

    I’ll see what my numbers are and decide to keep or not. I’ve a few empty cows to go in a month. They’ll make space.
    what kind of trade are goodish empty cows at the minute 700 kg +


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    #3381
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    High bike wrote: »
    what kind of trade are goodish empty cows at the minute 700 kg +

    No clue, sorry. I never get to the mart with work


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    #3382
    Welding Rod
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Welding Rod


    Now that there is probably a Brexit deal on the table, unless the demented 10 DUP MP’s have another hissy fit, things might get better in the cattle trade.

    I’m filling the shed like never before in any case. Plenty farmers hanging back and not buying. When they see a flush of nice grass next April, they will kill one another bidding prices up at the ringside.
    There’s no middle ground with the live trade. It’s either farmers talking it down or bidding it up. As sure as apples are apple, the bidding up follow the talking down.


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    #3383
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    "Albert wrote:
    If he had stuck to the heavier calves they would probably be 420kg average at the same money. I saw a few 320kg lads @ circa €850 and the same types 420kg again @ €850.
    Would 420kg not be too strong to squeeze?


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    #3384
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    High bike wrote: »
    what kind of trade are goodish empty cows at the minute 700 kg +

    Depends on the scope of the cow but circa €1.50 a kilo? Cows are a mine field and prices can vary from a euro a kilo up to near €2 a kilo for continental types depending on age, frame ect. From what I see of the general run of goodish cows that weight lately there from €1000-1200 a piece.


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    #3385
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Would 420kg not be too strong to squeeze?

    In my experience no although it's important to remember there's legal protocol to follow regarding​ age limits and anesthetic. It would be preferable to squeeze them when younger and lighter but you have to work with what you have. Once you keep an eye on any swelling or associated problems it shouldn't be any more trouble than with lighter calves. Those weight's are better value atm and a good percentage of them will be squeezed, especially with bull beef falling out of popularity. Squeezing an 400kg calf that's 9 months old is no different imo to squeezing a 300kg 14 month old comrade. Yes they'll both suffer a temporary growth set back but it's not a major problem.


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    #3386
    FarmerBrowne
    Registered Users Posts: 483 ✭✭FarmerBrowne


    The run of the store heifers in Elphin today were about €2 per kg, a bit more for real quality.


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    #3387
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Welding Rod wrote: »
    Now that there is probably a Brexit deal on the table, unless the demented 10 DUP MP’s have another hissy fit, things might get better in the cattle trade.

    I’m filling the shed like never before in any case. Plenty farmers hanging back and not buying. When they see a flush of nice grass next April, they will kill one another bidding prices up at the ringside.
    There’s no middle ground with the live trade. It’s either farmers talking it down or bidding it up. As sure as apples are apple, the bidding up follow the talking down.

    That's the spirit


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    #3388
    Fine Day
    Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    Welding Rod wrote: »
    Now that there is probably a Brexit deal on the table, unless the demented 10 DUP MP’s have another hissy fit, things might get better in the cattle trade.

    I’m filling the shed like never before in any case. Plenty farmers hanging back and not buying. When they see a flush of nice grass next April, they will kill one another bidding prices up at the ringside.
    There’s no middle ground with the live trade. It’s either farmers talking it down or bidding it up. As sure as apples are apple, the bidding up follow the talking down.

    I love the sound of that but cant see it happening. Beef farming isnd going to recover to what we were use to but I hope I am proofed wrong.


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    #3389
    morphy87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭morphy87


    What kind of money are Charlois bullocks making,say 450 to 470 kgs April to May 18? And is there many of these type of cattle in the Mart’s?


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    #3390
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Sold 15 LMx & CHx Spring 18 heifers yesterday in Castleisland,
    avg weight 457kgs avg price 893 euro so 1.95 p/kg
    given the trade that was there was happy enough for the year that's in it


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    #3391
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    Sold 15 LMx & CHx Spring 18 heifers yesterday in Castleisland,
    avg weight 457kgs avg price 893 euro so 1.95 p/kg
    given the trade that was there was happy enough for the year that's in it

    Was it adult trade there yesterday? Time it start?


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