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Dozer1

He's built a load of new pens this year so maybe he'll add a ring next year...sales there next week will be huge I'd say

50HX

Base price wrote: »

I often watch their sales online and as I posted previously I think it's a great mart.

How come they don't have another ring, is it due to not having enough space to build one. I've never been to the mart but I would like to go there for a jaunt when the Covid is over.

I don't know why another ring hasn't been added

Bullock are still selling now, some day since 10am

Mauty is splitting next week in 2,cows Thursday rest on Friday.
Just for the anniversary sale.

50HX

Saw that advertised alright

Dunno how the locals are sticking the traffic there, must be getting g some Xmas present:D

Base price

50HX wrote: »

I don't know why another ring hasn't been added

Bullock are still selling now, some day since 10am

I remember watching a weanling sale one night last Autumn and I quit and headed to bed a 12.30am. I saw a post on here where it went onto 3am.

Base price

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Mauty is splitting next week in 2,cows Thursday rest on Friday.
Just for the anniversary sale.

What is the anniversary sale. I saw it advertised on lsl for next week and the week after.

50HX

Base price wrote: »

I remember watching a weanling sale one night last Autumn and I quit and headed to bed a 12.30am. I saw a post on here where it went onto 3am.

Took weanlings there one year, 10am sold my bulls, 1am sitting into the tractor after selling the heifers.......never again

It'd work a lot better only runners could go on for 2 hours first.....not ideal with a 6pm start

Evening sale suits the part timers though

Move the runners to a calf sale and t would be a big help

DBK1

50HX wrote: »

Took weanlings there one year, 10am sold my bulls, 1am sitting into the tractor after selling the heifers.......never again

It'd work a lot better only runners could go on for 2 hours first.....not ideal with a 6pm start

Evening sale suits the part timers though

Move the runners to a calf sale and t would be a big help

Yea it’s a long night on stock. They moved the start time back to 5 now but the numbers selling there are growing all the time so it still ended up with a few 2 and 3am finishes.

There probably wasn’t the numbers there before now to justify the cost of a second ring, there would have only been a few big sales a year and then back to a normal enough 9 or 10pm finish. But in the last 2 years or so the sales are much bigger and they really need the second ring now.

tanko

Where are you getting the grades from, surely continental cattle like them are going to be good U grades?

tanko

Fair enough but i would have thought that 3yr old CH bullocks making around a grand along with their weight would be better than R- or R= grades.

I see on ICBF that a Saler X Lim bullock i sold in Autumn 19 killed out recently at 32 months as a U=

Bass Reeves

tanko wrote: »

Fair enough but i would have thought that 3yr old CH bullocks making around a grand along with their weight would be better than R- or R= grades.

I see on ICBF that a Saler X Lim bullock i sold in Autumn 19 killed out recently at 32 months as a U=

1k with the weight on a 500kg animal is 3/kg on an 800kg animal its is 2.25/kg

tanko

Bass Reeves wrote: »

1k with the weight on a 500kg animal is 3/kg on an 800kg animal its is 2.25/kg

Yeah, i know how to count.

Bass Reeves

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, i know how to count.

A lot of peoples think that every CH or LM will grade U if you pike the weight on them. However while along the West cost where a lot of lads use AI to achieve a high prices weanling this is not true of all the country. A lot of lads who are on better type land any either sell them as stores or carry to finish run an easy calving Ch bull with cows which ate often off dairy stock. A lot of these types if stock will not exceed R+. As well you will have a lot of dairy bred CH's along the East cost as well. Again they will not travel beyond R=.

Jam is mean with his grading he worse than any factory machine at time.

Grueller

Jjameson wrote: »

It’s not really what grade you think an animal is anymore, you have to guess what the monkey in Larries machine is going to call them!

Correction. Give that monkey its full title, "the independently calibrated and monitored monkey in Larry's machine".

Who2

Anyone at Bally bay heifer sale yesterday or any reports on prices?

Sheep breeder

Jjameson wrote: »

Carnew today. 40th fatstock show day.
R =grade well finished bb feb18 912kg €2000.
R =grade char feb18 862kg €1880
R- grade char dec17 782kg €1730
O= grade AA dec18 878kg €1790
R= well finished char jan 19 712k €1540
U (hard to say if fat) pt may 19 652. Kg €1600

Seen a lot of them good bullocks going through the ring and were mostly U grade cattle and were going up the country for slaughter and serious store bullocks sold as well.

Bass Reeves

Jjameson wrote: »

Where do you kill your cattle?
U grades are like lesser spotted matter jack toads on kill sheets nowadays!

Even when I was at bulls R+/U,s graded about 50/50 on the suckler cattle. Now I wasN't spending all day around a ring buying a few specific bulls. With bullocks its even harder to achieve ''U''s got one this year nearly fell off the chair reading the sheet. Two companions graded O+ so a Larry more than got his own back

charolais0153

Who2 wrote: »

Anyone at Bally bay heifer sale yesterday or any reports on prices?

Lot of prices on their Snapchat ballybaymart20 is username

Who2

charolais0153 wrote: »

Lot of prices on their Snapchat ballybaymart20 is username

Thanks, I had a snoop around there now. I thought it was being pushed as a more show type sale but there doesn’t seem to be that many nice breeders going by the pics.

Sheep breeder

Jjameson wrote: »

Where do you kill your cattle?
U grades are like lesser spotted matter jack toads on kill sheets nowadays!

Kepak and Kildare.

ppn

Grueller wrote: »

Correction. Give that monkey its full title, "the independently calibrated and monitored monkey in Larry's machine".

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/naughten-grading-machines-getting-it-wrong-on-over-4-out-of-10-cattle/

I'm sure it would cost Larry millions to rectify this (from both angles) and get more accurate 'monkey's'.......

Jjameson

Jjameson wrote: »

The machines are fine. They should be under the remit of the NSAI to ensure accuracy and consistency.

That's exactly it. We've a rule down here overfat cattle go to one road, cattle that are shy another.

Funnily I'd always find the ABP factory's the kindest regarding grading.

White Clover

DukeCaboom wrote: »

That's exactly it. We've a rule down here overfat cattle go to one road, cattle that are shy another.

Funnily I'd always find the ABP factory's the kindest regarding grading.

Which one is which, Duke?

DBK1

DukeCaboom wrote: »

That's exactly it. We've a rule down here overfat cattle go to one road, cattle that are shy another.

Funnily I'd always find the ABP factory's the kindest regarding grading.

Same as that here. Certain cattle are suited to certain places and sometimes the factory offering the worst price per kg can turn out to be the highest price per animal when they’re hanging up.

DBK1

Jjameson wrote: »

Grading improved in Slaney after the maith an fear takeover and throughput reduced. They boning hall was operating too fast and carelessly. The Eastern European labour swopped for cheaper South American. The line in Icm now resembles something out of a columbian prison movie,the marketing man reputedly left after 21 years of having to deal with going dread/depressing uneasy atmosphere.
Abp Waterford had a man stabbed in the shoulder a few years back, missing his neck by inches!
42 covid cases in slaney today. Business as usual. What other company would you see it?

Grading in all factories has definitely improved in the last year or more (dare I say it coincides with the finish of the protests!) Any cattle I’ve killed since then I’ve always been pleasantly surprised with the grading and I’ve used 3 different factories during the year.

Crazy that any premises could be operating with that amount of cases, especially when you compare that to the Australia putting a compulsory quarantine on anyone arriving from New Zealand for the next 72 hours after New Zealand had their first case in 2 months.

ruwithme

Jjameson wrote: »

The whole issue of meat processing namely staffing, covid regulation, staff recruitment and special allowances regarding flights is
immune from torchlight of investigative journalism for some reason.

Media as ever setting the agenda & taking their pick on what to focus on.they could have single handedly got schools reopened for special needs children last week if they had any moral compass.

ppn

Jjameson wrote: »

Some property owners letting shared accommodations for these poor divils are social pariahs in the area now, what hope would they have. Some chaps with no English looking for “ivomec” in town today to reputedly to self medicate “dog”..
Wasn’t there some article about this in the spring? Is that their thinking?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90552

TPF2012

https://thatsfarming.com/beef/fatstock-sale-bullocks-carnew/?amp=1

I don't understand the economics of these sales?
Help me understand.

kk.man

Jjameson wrote: »

Take the show cattle with a pinch of salt... although I think the champion may have been a genuine sale but to get his name read out. A lot of lines would struggle with a 600 odd kg carcass and I don’t know what a cartel plant would give you for an E this weight. The fat cattle were generally 50 to 150 over the odds at 3.80 on anything I noted.

The champion looked like he could have done with more feeding imo.

kk.man

Jjameson wrote: »

He got plenty of that from day one! Home bred. Been on the show circuit from a weanling. I seen him on the hoof, good brisket and codd on him.

I don't doubt it but thought there was some room left there in the ribs. I am going on the pics.